Let’s Talk Frankly About Monica

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We all know who we’re talking about. She’s back in the news with a story to sell.

I’m not interested. I heard it all before – ad nauseum.

Let’s be frank – Monica Lewinsky was NOT a victim. Bill Clinton was NOT a sexual predator. The real victims were Hillary, Chelsea, and the American people.

It was a sordid, tawdry tale of illicit sex and marital infidelity. The participants were consenting adults. It is not surprising that the wife of a philanderer did not have warm fuzzy feelings for her husband’s mistress.

Bill Clinton’s reputation and popularity survived because, taken on a whole, people decided that the good stuff outweighed the bad. Monica got thoroughly trashed because pretty much all anyone knows about her is she had an affair with a married POTUS. We still generally frown upon that kind of stuff.

Did she expect praise for her behavior? Bill treated her like men treat willing young women. He wasn’t mean or cruel. It’s not his fault if she fantasized that he would leave Hillary for her. The people who used and abused her were Bill’s enemies, and he was unable to protect her. Now Hillary’s enemies want to use and abuse Monica some more.

The moral of the story is that young women should not get involved with married men. It rarely results in a happy ending.

What do you think?


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66 Responses to Let’s Talk Frankly About Monica

  1. The Klown says:

    Question for the ladies of TCH:

    What word would you use to describe a 21 year old woman who flirted with your husband and flashed her thong at him?

    • helenk3 says:

      east pushover looking for attention

    • votermom says:

      After I’d pulled all her hair out.

    • Somebody says:

      I’d call her a bitch, possibly worse and definitely home wrecker.

    • elliesmom says:

      Stupid. Unless she stuck it in his face, he probably wouldn’t notice. When he was a young guy and a TA, one of his female students showed up in a sheer blouse and nothing else. He sat down with her and went over her homework. When I commented on her attire, he asked me what she was wearing.

    • angienc says:

      Not as bad as the name I’d call my “old-enough-to-be-her-father” husband *if* he got a blow job from her. He’s the one who took marriage vows, not her.

      Sorry, I know we all like Bill and I agree the whole thing was over-blown by the Republicans at the time, and I for sure know this isn’t a popular opinion on here, but the “boss” engaging in sexual acts with a 21 year old who works for him is bad on him TOO and, frankly, worse. Because 21 year olds are stupid, reckless & don’t consider consequences of their actions based on age alone. The 50+ year old boss, OTOH, is the one who *should* have known better.

      • elliesmom says:

        Agreed. I’m not a “stand-by-your-man” while he publicly humiliates me kind of of woman, and the guy I married knew that right from the start.

      • Mary says:

        Agree, Monica is not claiming to be a victim in the article. She takes responsibility for her choices.

        She does say, however, that the aftermath felt like bullying, because all the Clinton lovers AND the so-called “feminists” immediately closed ranks and defended Clinton. And, that HIllary chose to blame her, and not Bill, trashing her as a stalking slut. (oh wait—that was Carville, et al, right?)

        I think there’s something to that. Due respect.

        • Mary says:

          Think of it in terms of their so-called War on Women now. Tad twisted.

        • angienc says:

          I’m not claiming she doesn’t share some of the responsibility. I’m saying it is b.s. to say the moral is for *women” “don’t sleep with married men” without ALSO saying “And equally: married men, keep your pants ON.”

          • Mary says:

            Agree. It’s not completely one way or the other.

            I’m just remembering the way Dems (including me) and the feminists closed ranks around Clinton back then and embraced lots of the gossip about Monica without confronting Clinton’s culpability too. It’s not like Monica was his first extra-curricular activity.

            And I’m reminded of the Carville/Blumenthal, etc, frenzy to create the “trailer trash bimbo” image of all those Clinton women. Remember “drag a dollar through a trailer park?” Do we even know who the source of the Monica flipped her skirt to show her thong story was? Did we stop and ask that question back then? Should the feminists have questioned those tactics?

            Food for thought.

      • Underwhelmed says:

        Honk honk. Not to downplay her part or responsibility, but the greater sin here was his because of his position. It was an abuse of power, plain and simple. The onus was on him to reject her advances, if she made the first move, or not make any himself if he was the one tempted. Frankly, the onus is on any married man who’s approached by someone not his wife for sex. Ditto any married woman.

        Sometimes it really is the guy’s fault.

      • abc says:

        No, no NOOOO. 21 year olds know EVERYTHING. Just ask them.

  2. The Klown says:


    Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has a Tea Party primary challenger. Speaker of the House John Boehner just dispatched one of his own this week in Ohio’s Republican primary. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has four challengers, each vying to unseat him from the right in South Carolina’s June primary.

    You know who doesn’t have a primary challenger, Tea Party or otherwise? Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. That’s intriguing. Appointed in 2013 by Governor Nikki Haley to fill the seat vacated by former Senator Jim DeMint, Scott is the first black Republican in the Senate since Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, who served in the era when Dino-RINOs of the Nelson Rockefeller and Charles Percy persuasion roamed the earth.

    Scott, a former House member with modest legislative accomplishments, has never run a statewide election. According to an April Winthrop University poll, 33.5 percent of registered voters in South Carolina say they don’t even know enough about him to form an opinion. He has raised about $5 million, according to his most recent campaign finance report. On the same deadline, his in-state colleague Graham — the guy who attracted four challengers — reported having raised about $9 million.

    The Washington Post this week profiled Scott as “the undercover senator” — not exactly the strategic posture you’d expect from a little-known, unelected senator making his first statewide race in a party, and a moment, rife with anti-incumbent anger.

    A South Carolina Republican told me that Scott’s immunity from challenge stemmed from two sources: First, Scott placed himself so far to the right that there was no space for a Tea Party challenge on ideological grounds. He has an “F” on the NAACP legislative scorecard and a higher score on the right-wing Heritage Action scorecard — 94 out of a possible 100 — than fellow South Carolinian Joe “You Lie” Wilson.

    Second, Scott benefits from a widespread recognition among Tea Partyers and conservatives in general that a high-profile black conservative is a thing most rare and precious. The act of supporting a black conservative is both an absolution for the past and a shield for the present and future. In South Carolina, where the Confederate battle flag still flies on the state capitol grounds, and where a recent lieutenant governor seemed a little too enthusiastic about all things confederate, that matters.

    In effect, South Carolina Republicans treat Scott like the national party previously treated the ham-handed presidential candidate Herman Cain and the party’s not-quite-competent chairman during Obama’s first term, Michael Steele: They are members of an endangered political species for whom the bar is effectively lowered.

    Affirmative action based on race has taken quite a beating at the Supreme Court, in state legislatures and at the ballot box. In the Republican Party, however, affirmative action can punch your ticket like nobody’s business.

  3. helenk3 says:

    getting involved with a married man is like buying a used car. you get someone else’s lemon.

    I never had a lot of sympathy for monica, she knew what she was doing.
    hillary made the decision to stand by her man, her business, no one elses.

    I still think the only reason this slop is coming out now, is to take up air time on msm to avoid Benghazi.
    remember hillary as the poor cheated upon wife, not the secretary of state who refused help to her ambassador and three others and let them die and then lied about it

  4. Lulu says:

    Descriptives for Monica: desperate and dumb.

  5. The Klown says:

    White Guys: We Suck and We’re Sorry:

  6. piper says:

    young, immature and stupid

  7. helenk3 says:

    IRS turning lois lerners e-mail over to congress

  8. votermom says:

    Boko Haram Now Armed With Weapons Gotten From… Post-Invasion Libya

    Wow. So not only did Hillary refuse to tag Boko Haram as terrorists, she is indirectly responsible for arming them. (Knocking off Gaddafi was her project, and she was quite proud of it)

  9. helenk3 says:


    at first look I thought he was talking about the new democratic party

  10. fif says:

    I could care less about Monica. She’s got a victim mentality. Of course the media, with zero integrity, is eager to print the story. Just more sensationalism until the next drama they can exploit to avoid real news.

  11. mothy67 says:

    I was pondering how much things and me have changed since 2008. Cannot help but think that the vile progressives made one big error when they told a lot of us to sitdown and shut up. Kind of made me feel like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. I decide who is gonna screw me not Donna Brazille.

  12. helenk3 says:


    dems still lying like cheap rugs. one of hillary’s henchmen was on tv tonight claiming that she testified before to the benghazi committee UNDER OATH. she was not under oath when she testified

  13. mothy67 says:

    Meant to post this beforebut I think I have one of the best drunk stories ever. I was.visiting Pittsburgh from New York.went out with some friends.Had a flight the next dayso at 2 am when my pals wereheading off to do after hours at The Croation Club I said I was getting a cab Josh said don’t waste your money crash on my sofa I live around the corner third house down. Fine 9 hours later I hear sit up slowly make no sudden movementsand raise your hands above your head. Yes siree Bob I went around the wrong corner and went to sleep on an 89 year old woman’s couch. Her door was open ecause she got Meals on Wheels. Word of advice when being arrested for criminal trespass I advise that when a cop is cuffing keep your mouth shut. Bad idea when he saysI despise drinkers to say What did Daddy like the bottle more than his limp dicked son.

  14. helenk3 says:

    I feel like I am living in the land of OZ today.
    now in addition to bomber billy ayers and bernadette dorn , now a college in Illinois has a member of the group that kidnapped Patti Hurst as a teacher.
    do they give extra credit for domestic terrorism classes?

  15. mothy67 says:

    The touchy feely aproach to Monica is rather tired. I was in London when Drudge broke the story. All the people I knew laughed. Uptight repressed Americans. He got head big deal was the sentiment. Guy was the most powerful person on Earth of course he was gonna bang. The man was raised by his mom. Not rich but he became a Rhodes Scholar. Takes a lot to overcome what he did. Funny William Jefferson Clinton had the audacity to dream very big. What he did was wrong but he is more than that midtake.

  16. The Klown says:
  17. mothy67 says:

    Not givi g him a pass. He is still accountable. But we are all flawed. I was just talking to my mom and she critiqued me for being too much. She told me I was toomuch. What does that mean? A few years ago I was in a bar and met this guy who was on a seventies sitcom. I hD sex with him in a bathroom. Then I was very rude to him. He shamed me like no one. Said I was powerfull and I needed to grow up. He is dead now but he was very insightful. I need to be the best I can be.

  18. DandyTIger says:

    Whenever I talk frankly, I always get in trouble.

    • Somebody says:

      Me too Dandy, me too!

      • helenk3 says:

        me three

        • mothy67 says:

          Do not know this Frankly person but have acclimated to the fact I am always going to piss someone off. Delmore Shwartz wrote in ” In Dreams Begin Responsibilities” you can dream so dream outload and don’t let the bastards grind you down U2 quotes him on the song Acrobat from the album Zooropa.

          • mothy67 says:

            Not Zoorop but Achtung Baby. (Great album if you have a penchant for Irish angst THe song so Cruel is worth a listen)

  19. helenk3 says:

    I need some help . my e-mail is suddenly all screwed up. it is like the deleted ones from a long time ago are now in my inbox and all the latest ones are gone. this happened some time this afternoon. I tried unplugging the computer and rebooting it but that did not work. what do I do now?


    • The Klown says:

      That’s probably not your computer. It’s most likely a problem with your email provider. Wait and see if it clears up.

    • 49erDweet says:

      it may also be a problem with your mail sorting setting. Instead of showing the most recent you may have accidentally hit a “settings” button that resorted your inbox to show oldest first. As bad as my eyes are I’ve done that a couple of times. đŸ™‚

      • helenk3 says:

        thank you both. I tried search and come up with some more recent mail. so it is in there, I just can’t find it

    • DandyTIger says:

      It might be that the server doesn’t see or recognize the state of your computer’s mail program. That is, it doesn’t understand where you last read email, what you’ve said you’ve deleted, etc. It’s as if you’re using a new computer reading email for the first time. So the server is feeding all the old email to you. It should eventually get everything back to your computer.

      For email that doesn’t seem to get deleted, you should check your settings and make sure you set where says when you delete email on your computer it should also delete it on the server.

  20. mothy67 says:

    I watched Hannity tonight because my boyfriend Ann Coulter was on. I had no idea how bad Saddam Hussein was. Coulter went off on the hypocrisy of the left comparing rape rooms to what has happened in Nigeria. Thought no way it can be true so I looked it up. Awful man. Felt like I was reading The Painted Bird again. I am unable to process it. How does a man take a child and force hervto become a sex slave. I am acquainted with lots of idiots but know noone who would be that depraved.

    • Underwhelmed says:

      And just think of it — his sons were worse. 3 men the world is way better off without. May they burn in hell.

  21. mothy67 says:

    From Gay Patriot. AL Sharpton in all his glory. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHWRpsMEmk

  22. Propertius says:

    “ad nauseum”
    “What do you think?”

    I think “nausea” is a first declension noun, and it’s accusative case is “nauseam”. With an “a”.

    Friggin’ lawyer Latin…

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