Not a Smidgen of Corruption?


Katie Pavlich:

Judicial Watch Obtains New Documents Showing IRS Targeting Came Directly From Washington D.C.

New documents obtained and released through a Judicial Watch lawsuit show the targeting of tea party and conservative groups came directly out of Washington D.C., not a rogue IRS office in Cincinnati.

On July 6, 2012, former Director of the IRS Rulings and Agreements Division and current Manager of Exempt Organizations Guidance Holly Paz sent an email to IRS Attorney Steven Grodnitzky asking for an explanation of how tea party group applications were being handled. Grodnitzky responded by confirming the cases were being handled in Washington.

“EOT is working the Tea party applications in coordination with Cincy. We are developing a few applications here in DC and providing copies of our development letters with the agent to use as examples in the development of their cases. Chip Hull [another lawyer in IRS headquarters] is working these cases in EOT and working with the agent in Cincy, so any communication should include him as well. Because the Tea party applications are the subject of an SCR [Sensitive Case Report], we cannot resolve any of the cases without coordinating with Rob,” Grodnitzky wrote.

When the IRS targeting scandal broke last year, officials in Washington immediately pinned the blame on the Cincinnati office. This documentation proves not only that direction was coming out of Washington, but that Washington instructed Cincinnati about how to handle tea party applications.

A new email from Lois Lerner also details how BOLO lists (be on the look out) were specifically created for tea party groups or groups with issues related to government spending, debt, taxes and “how the country is being run.”


Further, documents show the IRS responded to “intense” requests from Democrat Senator Carl Levin to come down on conservative tax exempt groups in an effort to get rid of them, specifically the groups working against his reelection campaign.

Emails released by Judicial Watch last month show former head of taxpayer groups Lois Lerner was in contact with the Department of Justice about the potential criminal prosecution of conservative groups. In her emails about DOJ, Lerner noted that putting one person from a conservative organization in jail would create and example and “shut the whole thing down.”

When it comes to abuse of power it doesn’t get much more egregious than this. You can see why Lois Lerner took the Fifth. And yet the Democrats keep trying to insist that this is just a made-up scandal.

Calling this “Nixonian” is unfair to Richard Nixon.

Watergate was just a third-rate burglary. This is worse.

Waaaay worse. Somebody should go to jail. Several somebodies. Several more should lose their jobs.

I won’t hold my breath waiting.


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144 Responses to Not a Smidgen of Corruption?

  1. The Klown says:


  2. The Klown says:
    • The Klown says:
      • angienc says:

        Totalitarian progs like Greg Sargent only believe in the rule of law when they *like* the law & it makes them FEEL good about themselves.

      • r u reddy says:

        Enforcing the law would mean deporting every single illegal alien. Doing that would create enough of a labor “shortage” that job creators would have to pay American wages for the jobs they pay illegal alien wages (and conditions) for now. Does anyone really believe the mainstream Republicans want to take law enforcement that far?

        • Constance says:

          Neither party wants to support American workers. IMO the illegal aliens are highly motivated people who for the most part have good values and they should be in their home country tying to make that country a better place for their fellow citizens.

          • r u reddy says:

            In the case of Mexico, NAFTA was engineered to make that impossible. One of NAFTA’s main provisions was de-protectionizing Mexican peasant-farmers and drowning them in a flood of underpriced subsidized Midwestern corn/soy/etc. The goal was to destroy their ability to make a living farming and drive millions of them off their farms and into the maquiladoras planned for the US-Mexico border. But MFN for China meant all those expected maquiladoras got built in China instead. So the Mexican economic refugees had nowhere to go but into America. Illegal immigration from Mexico increased substantially after NAFTA.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Does anyone really believe the mainstream Republicans want to take law enforcement that far?

          Don’t care what either party WANTS! Obey the law or quit your job! Follow the law, change it, and face the consequences from voters, or resign. Man (or Woman) up!

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Good grief Obama is exhausting. Among all the “phony” scandals and failed foreign policies, is there anything he’s actually accomplishing for the “good” of the nation? Nothing comes to mind, not a thing.

    • angienc says:

      Don’t forget his failed domestic policies; despite all the MSM spinning & WH cooking of the books re: Obamacare & unemployment #s.

    • mothy67 says:

      Somebody somewhere has to come up with something. I am drawing a blank.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Have you ever noticed that the media and prog blogs don’t defend Obama’s policies, they just want the rest of us to shut up ? I do. Question Authority is no longer allowed on their plantation. That’s the scariest part of the New Left and that saddens me most of all.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Nuthin here either!!! 😯

    • lyn says:

      Obama is the first black president; in his mind, that’s his greatest achievement for our nation.

    • Constance says:

      I think shutting down Bush’s wars is a positive thing. We can’t control the Middle East and we shouldn’t be wasting our young people lives and our tax money trying. If either McCain or Romney had won we would be more heavily involved in Afghanistan and Iraq if we could find an opening and we would also be involved in Syria and possibly in Libya/Egypt. But I do believe a Republican administration would have acted faster on the kidnapped girls/sex slave situation in Nigeria. What percentage of those girls do you think have been sexually abused by their good Muslim captors? If they are ever found how many will be pregnant by the rapes?

      • angienc says:

        Point of order — Libya was 100% Obama policy and that “drive by war” of his is DIRECTLY related to Syria. You don’t get to count against and/or pretend that Romney (or even McCain) would have been as completely incompetent “lets be nice to the radical Islamists” Obama foreign policy.

        • The Klown says:

          The draw-down in Iraq was according to agreements made by Bush. Obama “surged” in Afghanistan and combat casualties were at an all-time high under Obama. Of course the media didn’t report that part.

        • Constance says:

          Well I think Benghazi was likely carried out by the Egyptian military but if not by some other military and that is why we haven’t arrested anyone. But it is likely true that Egypt wouldn’t have blown up, so Benghazi wouldn’t have happened and our involvement in Syria would have been more overt if Republicans were in office. Of course I would have thought Hillary would have kept things tamped down but now she is forever a part of the Obama Islamist/Middle east clusterfuck.

          • angienc says:

            You keep forgetting Libya — there was NO reason in the world for the USA to take out Gaddafi (a paper tiger re: threat to the USA &, in fact, who was cooperating with the US by keeping the radical islamists in check inside Libya). Without the fall of Libya, there never would have been Benghazi *or* Syria because the “rebels” in Syria wouldn’t have been armed with the weapons *we* gave to the Libyans.
            The entire “Arab Spring” is a giant clusterfuck that has created MORE danger for the USA (and Israel) by the Middle East and that was 100% Obama’s doing.
            (Note: Obama ignored the “green revolution” in Iran, because the rebels were *not* the radicals; the radicals were already in power there — coincidence?).

          • The Klown says:

            I don’t GAF what a Republican might have done. “Arab Spring” was bad policy.

            If John McCain or Mitt Romney had done the same thing it would still be bad policy.

          • 49erDweet says:

            IMO “the first black president” and his brilliant strategic brain trust saw Gaddafi as low hanging fruit with nil consequences.

          • Constance says:

            Well I’m just saying it’s not like we the voters had a choice between Obama and a candidate who would have been clearly positive for the USA. We picked a lesser of two evils when voting for Obama and many voters were stupidly gullible regarding Obama. There are a lot of stupid people and they have the right to vote in this country. I think it is really a problem that Republicans don’t have a stupid people outreach program they just offer logic (sometimes twisted) and expect the emotionally driven or stupid voter to “get it”. I didn’t vote for Obama either time, I voted for Palin in 2008 and Romney in 2012 but there would have been a down side to either of those administrations which we will never truly know the extent of.

  4. mothy67 says:

    I joined twitter last night because I couldn’t resist passing this on. Then I discovered I have no idea how to tweet but I thought this was hilarious from twitchy

    • DeniseVB says:

      Follow me @blogho and I’ll follow you back 🙂 You’ll get the hang of it with practice, then you’ll curse the day you joined because it’s so darn addictive !

      • The Klown says:

        If you follow lots of people your twitterfeed will get unmanageable, especially during the day. That’s what “lists” are for. You can pick 100-200 of your faves and just track them without having to unfollow anyone.

        Make sure to follow your favorite blogs and bloggers. That way you’ll know whenever they post something new.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I never could figure out lists until someone added me to that “idiots on twitter” one 😉 Spam blocking did help. I just follow back like minded people, keeps the riff-raff off my feed, unless someone disagrees with me in a hashtag game. Heh.

      • mothy67 says:

        Will do when I find the password. I hate passwords and reading glasses.
        OT– Oprah is doing a docuseries on Sams or whatever the openly gay player(that is how I will always think of him). What an unbelievably dumb idea. The pressure on him as well as his teammates. It is their career too. Should they have to sacrifice it for some feel goody thing? Surprised the team is okay with it. The kiss didn’t go over so well is she going to follow him home after the games.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Oprah’s been following him for months since he came out. Her cameras were in his face when he finally got picked, hence the overly dramatic cake in face kissy moment. Not sure how the other guys at training camp are going to like following his “journey”, it’s going to be a pretty intense time for all of them.

          • mothy67 says:

            Unfair, in my book too. I am sure a lot of other guys overcame some pretty steep odds to get to the NFL. They need to be focused.

          • votermom says:

            OMG. He’s going to have a camera following him around? That will make him real popular with the rest of the team, I’m sure. *headdesk*

          • elliesmom says:

            Since he made the deal with Oprah “weeks before the draft”, I think those of us who believe his coming out was a deliberate attempt to put the NHL on the spot were on the right track. Before he made himself the center of attention, his chances of being drafted shouldn’t have had Oprah chasing him. He’s nowhere near the top of the heap. I wonder if the Rams are getting something from the league to compensate them for taking this dog and pony show on.

          • Lulu says:

            I think it is for the boyfriend. The attention seeking is at least as serious with him too. The boyfriend”s grandfather AND father are/were notorious mobsters in Kansas City. The reality show may turn into Mob Grandson Boyfriend’s of the NFL.

          • Constance says:

            No one watches Oprah’s channel. Does she think anyone is going to watch the manufactured drama? She seems to have lost her touch when it comes to connecting with her audience.

            Of course it could just be the curse of the tit and ass “asspirational” advertising that shows up on every “woman’s content channel”. women viewers experience aversion therapy from the non stop ad images of male view sex sells ads. Now if they could just figure out to use sex through women’s eyes to sell they would stop creeping out potential women’s content viewers.

          • 49erDweet says:

            I care zip about an NFL players sex life. ZIP! Apparently the NFL and I disagree on this point. That’s fine. They can go their way and I will do something else with my Sunday afternoons…….and money.

      • mothy67 says:

        Aren’t you supposed to wait til your career is washed up to do a reality series so you can pay off your attorney fees?

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Like the unions really care about fast food workers. This will just ramp up the installation of computerized human replacements. It’s working out quite well in test markets.

    • elliesmom says:

      We have an automated kiosk option at our McDonald’s. People wait in line to use it even if employees are standing around because it speaks English and doesn’t mess up your order.

      • Lulu says:

        LOL. Panera Bread is supposed to be going to kiosk which is good so I don’t have to look at a bunch of facial piercings right before I eat.

      • votermom says:

        A month or so after the $15 min hour idiocy started, we went thru the local McD’s drive thru and noticed that they had upgraded their soda machine so that it automatically picked cups & drinks based on what order was rung up. The drive thru attendant just puts the lid on.
        I pointed that out to the kids as a consequence of workers pricing themselves out of a job. And we talked about the concept of min wage. My HS kid was initially – yeah, of course higher min wages are good, but now I think she gets the consequences.

        • elliesmom says:

          There’s no longer a receptionist at one of the clinics Elliesdad goes to sometimes. You step up to the kiosk and let it know you’ve arrived. It alerts your doctor, and when he or she is ready for you, a nurse comes and gets you. When you’re done, if you need another appointment, it schedules that for you, too. The first time we went there, there was a real person behind a desk, too, but now even the desk is gone.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Noticed the same thing at Mickey D’s the other day, VM. Also noticed they’ve hired more “managers” (ie: staff with flexible working conditions) and the fewer counter servers are only there at peak times.
          Yeah, raise the minimum wage again. They’ll hire more managers.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        love it 😀

  6. helenk3 says:
    tea party targeting

    do you it would be better if congress used the FOIA to get information. Judicial Watch using it got better info than congress.

    • Lulu says:

      They are experts unlike the doofuses in Congress. Also contempt from a court means something whereas from Congress it means nothing.

  7. helenk3 says:

    since backtrack took office, furniture makers are really having good years. how much from different government agencies has been spent of furniture?

    • Somebody says:

      During the Bush years the FAA spent $60,000 on desks for their managers. The desks were not much different from your basic office depot variety except they had a built in cooling fan which could be important for a desktop computer. Except the FAA also at the same time switched all the managers to laptops, so there was no need for cooling fans and a basic office depot desk would have worked just fine and cost the taxpayer a lot less. They did get a little “cheap” with the chairs to go with those desks. I expected a chair for a $60,000 desk to cost at least $10,000 but they only cost $2,500.

      I know that might not sound like much government waste, but multiply that times the number of managers and it adds up quickly. Government agencies are always top heavy with managers.

      • mothy67 says:

        Wasn’t the press all over some lady for spending a couple of grand on a wardrobe upgrade for a convention.(I was going to change the word lady to woman or governor because I thought it might be offensive. I like the term lady and think Palin encapsulates it)

      • DeniseVB says:

        Of course “Bush did it too” 😉 My problem with Obama, he promised us something different and magical, the great uniter! Truth is he lied like a rug during the 2008 primaries and campaign. He was unvetted by the media (had they only dug in his garbage like they did Sarah’s!!), but he had nothing to vet, because MAGICAL !

        I was going to give him a year, maybe this political experiment could work ? I lasted til April 2009 as he was doubling down on Bush’s buffoonery and pulled that rug out from under me.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Starting at the top. 😆

  8. The Klown says:

    Judicial candidate: Vote for me because I’m white:

    The candidate, Songhai “Sunny” Armstead, tells the congregation that she is “the only African-American” running and then says:

    Why is that significant? You heard about realignment. You heard about the injustice that happens in our court system already. And you guys have seen who — I’m sure we all know who’s in our jails and who comes before our judges in court, right? It’s people who look a lot like the people in this room. People who look a lot like me.

    I’ve been a prosecuting attorney and I’ve seen how things do not work in our system. I see how people who are disenfranchised, do not have appropriate education, or who come from underrepresented communities do not get access to fair justice. And part of the problem is that our judges don’t have the same life experiences that we have. They don’t have the same empathy. They don’t have the same understanding. They cannot relate. They have very narrow experiences. And so when they see a person come before them, they think everyone that comes before them is a horrible gang member or a violent criminal. You know?

    Our jails are full of nonviolent people who are either have substance abuse problems, mental health issues, lack of education, or who are foster kids. Those people don’t need to be in jail. [Applause]

    You have the power to change that. There are 15 open seats right now. I am the only African American running. There’s only one Chicana running. Can you guess who else is running? Are there people who care about the people in this room? Probably not. I can’t speak before them, but probably not.

    • mothy67 says:

      She has a point about the jails being filled with non-violent offenders. How any thinking person could think that anyone would be rehabilitated in that environment perplexes me. Mandated AA/NA meetings. Not going to work. There needs to be some punishment and scott free just encourages the behavior. Maybe supervised half way houses with the record expunged if the stay clean and do the whole bit if they lapse. Not a day off if they do not. Hell of a lot cheaper.
      Couldn’t sit through twelve minutes, but it was ostensibly a black church and as such I don’t have a problem with her focusing on what matters to those constituents. Is it any different than Hillary talking about her work on behalf of women when speaking at a women’s event. Given “vote for me because I am black” is blunt but it is the same message.

    • 49erDweet says:

      If she’d stopped four sentences earlier she’d be spot on. But she didn’t. Couldn’t help adding those unnecessary digs. Blew it. Plus, she was preaching to the choir and could have just skipped to the last paragraph (minus the evil parts). If seated, she will be bad news. A shame.

  9. The Klown says:

    I predict this will go right over his head:

  10. votermom says:

  11. DeniseVB says:

    Nothing says income inequality like Oprah building another megamansion. Really?

    • swanspirit says:

      F*ck over the local little people and their access to hiking trails that they have had for over three decades , What is Colorado for , except for showing off your wealth after all ?Oprah is moving in . Proximity to Oprah should be good enough for them

      • DeniseVB says:

        Where are the “environmentalists” ? That’s God’s Country Oprah’s clear cutting for her pleasure. SoSoSo sick of the left’s hypocrisy.

    • lyn says:

      I stumbled across a slide show of the movie stars’ mansions the other day. Those have no right to be authorities on global warming, income inequality and other social issues. Let them eat their hypocrisy.

  12. Somebody says:

    So where do you all think the trail leads in the IRS scandal? There is no doubt based on the JW documents that it was all being orchestrated from DC…….that’s kind of a “duh” thing, IMO. There was never, ever any possibility this was perpetrated by rogue agents in Cincinnati.

    The question is was this being pushed only by congressional members or was there also push coming from the WH? Perhaps the WH had the congressional members doing their dirty work so they could maintain plausible deniability. Personally I don’t think the bureaucrats at the IRS needed much of a push, from what I hear many of them are big obots. One thing that doesn’t look good for the WH is the number of visits by the IRS commissioner. Those visits are so far out of the norm, Obamacare or not. You can go back and look at visits by IRS commissioners in previous administrations and see how truly out of the norm it is, even during the Reagan years when the entire tax code was basically rewritten you won’t find a record of visits like that.

    I’d be curious to see how much communication there might have been between the WH, the Obama campaign and Levin or Cummings. I doubt we’ll ever know about that, but it would be very interesting. I’d also like to see JW put in FOIA requests for the Cincinnati and Laguna Nigel IRS offices. I’d be willing to bet at least one agent questioned their superiors. In fact I bet more than one questioned the political nature of it all. An IRS agent has to dot their i’s and cross their t’s (the acutal agents not the managers and bureaucrats). I’d be willing to bet any inquiry they made questioning this would have been done in writing. It would be interesting to see what kind of response the field managers gave to any inquiry, because whatever their response it was a parrot of what they were being told from higher up.

    • votermom says:

      Wasn’t there a record number of visits to the WH from the IRS head before the Tea Party Persecution started?

      • Lulu says:

        Of course it came from the WH legal and political operatives. Pull the bureaucrats into a RICO (criminal conspiracy) civil suit to deny First Amendment rights and they will tell you all about it pronto. The IRS honchos are good Germans.

  13. mothy67 says:

    Twitter might be worse than netflix.

  14. votermom says:

    I think Iowa Hawk is on to something here. It may be a similar psycho-social phenomenon

    • Lulu says:

      Yes it is a closed social circle. These kids do not associate with anyone else, are very susceptible to social pressure and frankly what I would call brain washing. It is very isolating. When my kids went to college I encouraged them to keep up with friends who went to other schools, community college, working instead of college and who went into the military. Not only did it preserve friendships (and contacts) it made them understand they were not the center of the universe.

  15. mothy67 says:

    FOX approved a plan to advance a plan to maybe charge more more for Hulu/netflix (you tube?) To charge more. Knew something was up because it went from really good to awful over night. Maybe it’s a good thing because as a 47 year old man I really shouldn’t be watching Pretty Little Liars.
    Piss poor journalism in the article it states that vote was along party lines 3 to 2, but neglects to say which party was which. Is that just something that I should know

  16. foxyladi14 says:

    WP has a nesting problem today.
    Makes me look more foolish then usual. 😀

    • mothy67 says:

      Cannot find voter mom and I do not know what DM is. @BaffledUnamused is me. Very confused by the whole Twitter-verse.

      • votermom says:

        I am @votermom.
        I just followed you.

        PS You can change your “name” (like right now mine is “Legal Immigrant”) any time on twitter – people change it to ridiculous things all the time for kicks. If you don’t want ppl seeing your real name it’s probably a good idea to change it (mayb eto Mothy or whatever …)

        I also have a list of TCH regulars who are on twitter here
        It’s just for convenience – an easy way to see what my TCH pals are tweeting. Let me know if you want me to add you to it.

        • mothy67 says:

          My real name shows up as is? No big whoop. I feel like that guy in “Being There” the movie had Peter Sellars(?) And Shirley Mclaine by JERSEY Kozinski(The Painted Bird- very disparate works). I had not even read a blog until the 2008 race. I was so miserably angry that a chunk of my belief system had been dismissed and my vote assumed. Fat chance. Computer illiterate. Turned off spell check 10 times on this thing but it refuses to surrender. I know Jersey is spelled with a z but it will not let me. I added it to my dictionary no go.
          Thank you

  17. mothy67 says:

    Need a laugh go to drudge and look at the headline

  18. Blessyourheart says:


  19. The Klown says:
  20. helenk3 says:

    mr hot air himself blames Koch Bros and GOP for global warming.

    I really think I will write in the Koch Bros for all political offices. they are the most powerful men on earth

  21. helenk3 says:

    this is getting nuttier by the day. maybe we should just go back to separate but equal. that seems to be what they want

    • helenk3 says:

      because I really am sick of this BS i will ask will there be classes on the white man’s burden?

      • mothy67 says:

        My freshman year at Purdue the last day of my composition class we handed in our last paper which was ungraded and voluntary. Our grades were set, but she said if anyone felt like writing good or bad about the class she would love a paper. Devestment in South Africa was a hot issue on campuses in the mid-eighties. I used Kipling’s The White Man’s Burden for my paper. Poor attempt I assume at sarcasm. I meant to make fun of the wealthier kids who played hacky sack in the courtyards and prayed I wish this was like Kent State. Then went off to frat parties. I ran into her the next semester and she looked away. I had gotten an A and she had hugged me when I left her class. Different boundaries at that age I said what did I do to you. She said Kipling. I was 18 and had no clue. She was phillippino american

        • mothy67 says:

          She thought I left her last class insulting her. I thought I simply commented on the absurdity of the college culture. We were both wrong.

        • The Klown says:

          Why was she offended? Kipling was criticizing (via satire) the US invasion of the Philippines.

          Now we’re supposed to be friends and allies.

          If she is so traumatized by something that took place before she was born, why is she living in the U.S.?

          • mothy67 says:

            It was West Lafayette Indiana in 1985. She was smart and very inspiring, but she was a dark skinned graduate student teaching freshman year comp. She was not teaching the sciences. No one goes to Purdue to be in the humanities unless you live nearby or sportsor your goal is to get an okay degree from an okay school.
            I have read the piece a few times and I would not write the same paper today. Not because I differ from what I believed then but because I respect her. She was a great teacher. I wanted, secretly, to be a writer. I lack the talent, the discipline, the grammer, the imagination. I regret not seeing what she gave to me and not responding in kind. I grew up in an evenly split black/white place and my God parents are Peurto Rican. I was part Cherokee until I bought my mom Then I had to be gay. Wish I could have been more sensitive. My aunts are losing their minds going all kinds of we are native American. I say sorry nope Irish with German and Russian Jew. One of those things does not sit well

  22. helenk3 says:

    backtrack sends in the cleaner.
    is this guy going to be another susan rice and will the VA investigation be like the benghazi investigation where hillary was not even questioned?

  23. The Klown says:

    When somebody jumps over an easy question on WWTBAM I always hope they passed on big money.

  24. The Klown says:

    Why isn’t this ad racist?

  25. helenk3 says:

    just saw a story on tv about the the striking McDonald workers. are they a part of meeeschele’s campaign on obesity? close fast food restaurants, more home cooking. better nuitrition, fewer over weight people?

  26. 49erDweet says:

    OT: Looks like the honeymoon is over for China’s small business internet entrepreneurs. In the last five months deliveries of small electronic items, which for almost six years were prompt and rock steady, are now delayed and iffy. For me, three of six items ordered were no shows. The other three were beyond 30 days. At one time it only took 8.
    I interpret it as a cutback in government transportation support. Priorities have changed. Buyers beware.

    • 49erDweet says:

      49erDweet Inc. is now offering unparalleled successful thread-closing services. If your blog thread or newsfeed is staying up too long, contact online for a schedule of services. Guaranteed results.

  27. The Klown says:

    New Benghazi thread up.

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