Why Do Progs Hate Mickey D’s?

From that Font of Wisdom known as Salon:

Get a clue, McDonald’s: Why its business model has utterly failed

McDonald’s investors have some reckoning to do at the company’s annual shareholder meeting today. Over the past year, the Golden Arches has come under fire from all sides: Weak consumer demand has led sales to slump. Satisfaction among franchise owners has now sunk to historic lows, with many expressing interest in selling. Class-action lawsuits against the company were filed in three states last March, alleging widespread and systemic wage theft. A company web site became a national punchline last fall for suggesting that low-paid employees adjust to the strain of financial hardship by singing away their stress and taking smaller bites of food.

And, just last week, hundreds of McDonald’s workers held the latest in a series of one-day strikes that have now hit over 150 cities in the U.S. with workers protesting in solidarity in 33 countries overseas. Yesterday, over 100 of these workers were arrested outside McDonald’s headquarters in Oakbrook, Illinois, as they brought their demand for $15 an hour and a union directly to the company’s doorstep.

McDonald’s has an opportunity today to assure shareholders that it’s committed to charting a new course, but doing so will require more than a new advertising blitz or clever PR strategy.

Instead, the company should use this shareholder meeting to acknowledge publicly what its mounting troubles over the past year have already made clear – that its business model has failed, and that it’s time to transition to a new model that pays a living wage.


By announcing a shift to a living wage business model, McDonald’s would be following in the footsteps of a growing number companies that have started to see the light. Earlier this year, The Gap announced that the company would be raising pay for all of its U.S. employees to at least $10 per hour by next year, calling the move a “strategic investment to do more for our employees” in order to “attract and retain a skilled, enthusiastic and engaged workforce.”

Similarly, Costco has for years embraced a business model focused on investing in its workforce, with entry-level employees starting at $11.50 per hour. This investment, moreover, has paid off, with market analysis showing that Costco generates nearly double the sales revenue per employee as its nearest competitor, the Walmart-owned Sam’s Club.

According to Salon, the author of this piece is a “policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project.” What I want to know is if he has ever run a business – any business. Whatever his background he sure has a strange definition of “utterly failed“:

The McDonald’s Corporation is the world’s largest chain of hamburger fast food restaurants, serving around 68 million customers daily in 119 countries across 35,000 outlets.


A McDonald’s restaurant is operated by either a franchisee, an affiliate, or the corporation itself. McDonald’s Corporation revenues come from the rent, royalties, and fees paid by the franchisees, as well as sales in company-operated restaurants. In 2012, McDonald’s Corporation had annual revenues of $27.5 billion, and profits of $5.5 billion.

That $5.5 billion does not include the profits made by the 85% of the restaurants that are franchises. Either way, that’s a lot of moolah. Most failed business models don’t generate that kind of profit. Actually, most failed business models don’t generate any profit.

You can make the argument that McDonald’s can afford to pay their employees more money. You can even argue that it would be a smart business decision. But you can’t argue that what they are currently doing ain’t working.

It is not fair to compare McDonald’s to different kinds of businesses that use different business models. That’s like comparing apples to onions. A fair comparison would be to compare McD’s to Burger King or some other large fast-food chain but for some reason the author chose not to do so. Probably because they all pay the same minimum wages that my buddy Ronald pays.

What I can’t figure out is why Progs hate Mickey D’s so much. They hate the products that Mickey D’s sells even more than than they hate the way Mickey D’s does business. If they aren’t raging about the toys in the Happy Meals they are bitching about calories in the Big Macs. When all else fails the Progs start whinging about the environmental effects of Mickey D’s packaging.

I guess that cheap fast-food for the masses just offends the Progs’ ironic hipster snooty elitist sensitivities. Just as with Walmart, anything associated with the hoi polloi is just anathema to Progs. To a Prog, eating at McDonald’s is like buying coffee at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts. It can be done, but it must be done ironically.

Last but not least, what is the definition of a “living wage?” Who determines how much that is? If every employer pays (at least) that amount, what will that do to prices?

I keep asking this next question and have yet to receive any kind of serious answer: If increasing the minimum wage is such an easy, painless and beneficial thing to do why not raise it to $50 an hour?



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96 Responses to Why Do Progs Hate Mickey D’s?

  1. DeniseVB says:

    I guess McD’s is about as high profile as you can get. Wouldn’t the unions like that piece of the wage pie ? Everytime I see these demos, it’s not the employees, it’s union people.

    Here’s how WaPo is covering it….slideshow of the sideshow.


    • The Klown says:

      If Mickey D’s gets unionized the workers will have to make a lot more than minimum wage to justify paying union dues. If they unionize and their competitors don’t then they’ll take a big hit in sales.

      At what point will it become cheaper to automate?

      • elliesmom says:

        I live in a rinky dink little town. We have a corporate owned Mickey D’s. They product test a lot of new things on us. Ever had one of their pizza burgers? You can thank us for giving them two thumbs down. But it’s interesting to see how our little shop is becoming more and more automated. Touchscreen kiosks, both inside and at the drive thru. Automatic drink dispensers. Pay by credit card, ATM, or prepaid Mickey D cards. No cashier involved. Our shop on a busy Saturday can operate with 5 employees. One at the counter, one at the grill, one at the drive thru, one to clean up, a utility infielder to pitch in where needed, and the store manager. They have two drive thru lanes and two cash registers inside. The wait time is very short. While the pizza burger may have been a fail, I think their experiment in automation is working out just fine.

        • elliesmom says:

          Our grocery stores also have self-scanners. You pick up a scanning gun at the door and a pile of grocery bags. You pick something up, scan it, and put it directly in your shopping bag. When you’re done shopping, you put your bags on the counter, which is a scale. Then plug the scanning tool into the “cash register”. It rings up your groceries, compares the weight of your bags to the weight of the groceries you say you have. If it meets tare, you pay your bill, and you’re good to go. I love it because as you move through the store like items naturally end up in the same bags so putting the groceries away when I get home goes much faster. You can use any kind of bag you want. The checkout process asks you how many bags you have and what kind they are.

          • votermom says:

            I wish we had the scan guns for customers.
            We just have the self checkout lanes. I always use them unless I have something really heavy that needs the scan gun. Actually I usually let the kids do the self checkout – its fun for them.

          • Jadzia says:

            The scan guns here suck! Our grocery store uses some kind of algorithm that allegedly tells the cashier to manually check through approximately 1/3 of the customers who have already self-checked. Which means that 1/3 of the time, you take longer to go through the grocery store because you are self-scanning and packing as you go, and then you get to the exit and they force you to take everything back out and have the cashier scan your items one at a time. Which means that now your grocery trip has taken fully twice as long as it would have had you not bothered with the self-scanner in the first place.

            Plus, I got stopped almost every single time I self-scanned–I suspect the policy was to check everybody who scanned high-dollar items like baby formula and diapers (the former of which, IIRC, was kept on locked shelves at my local drug store back in the States).

            Rant over.

        • lildoggy4u says:

          I remember when a McDonalds opened in my hometown in Tennessee. On Sunday morning the line of cars would stretch about a mile. No, it wasn’t for the Happy Meals. It was for the biscuits just like grandma made. Its still that way and I confess to also picking them up for our meal after church.

        • John Denney says:

          Pizza burgers! My first job was at a place called Scotty’s hamburgers, and we had pizza burgers. It was a burger patty with a slice of mozarella cheese, breaded with Italian herbs, deep-fried, then put on a bun with pizza sauce. They were pretty good. 🙂

      • votermom says:

        Couldn’t tweet this properly from this tablet

        • DeniseVB says:

          Some of the big chain restaurants are testing this at their tables. Then someone from the kitchen just delivers it to your table. Not sure some of my friends who need to ask a zillion questions of the waitstaff before they can order could handle this.

          • elliesmom says:

            I could really grow to love that. My BFF has a dairy allergy. It’s very real, and can be very painful. But a simple “It’s important I get no dairy products” would suffice. She seems to need to tell every server her medical history. If the first screen was “select your allergy”,and then the menu blocked out anything you shouldn’t order, that would be wonderful.

          • Constance says:

            Great idea elliesmom. I too get sick of hearing the medical allergy background although I have a few allergies myself. A menu that would drop off all peanut or lactose or gluten items would be amazing.

  2. The Klown says:

    That sign might be offensive to some people but it’s not racist. The shirt is racist but who is the guy wearing it?

    But even if both men are racists AND Republicans, that is just two people out of how many millions in the party?

    • The Klown says:
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      • DeniseVB says:

        Just hit him with the “Sarah is a C**T” shirt 😉 The lunatic fringe on both sides are what people remember, not the other 98% of us who are issue oriented. Then there’s the LaRouche cult who shows up at both sides’ rallies with their Bush as Hitler, or Obama as Hitler posters. The media zeroes in on THEM.

    • The Klown says:
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        • Somebody says:

          Why is the word slave racist? There are certain words that have become taboo by the pc crowd. Slave and slavery have a distinct meaning. Just because there were African slaves doesn’t mean the word slave is racist or that it is referring to anyone’s pigmentation. As we have established over and over again people of every ethnic group have been enslaved, so why is the word slave racist???

          The other guy’s t-shirt is without a doubt racist. Was he a plant? Maybe, maybe not there are assholes on both sides of the aisle. Why is it though that we’re supposed to get our panties in a wad over some nobody at a rally in an offensive t-shirt……..but we’re supposed to excuse racism and racist comments from talking heads on TV? Oh, well because the talking heads aim their racism at whites and that’s OK, because racism is somehow a one way street. Sorry, excuse me…..I lost it for a minute…..I better check my white privilege, I’m sure I’ll find the answer there.

          • The Klown says:
          • Somebody says:

            WTF slave is NOT the N word, see how it has been conflated by the PC crowd? Slaves and slavery still exist today, right now as we speak. Does this moron not read? Boko Harum is going to sell those girls into slavery, do they think that is somehow different? There are actual slaves right here in the USA, there was a recent case discovered in CA.
            Slave…..noun…..historical 1. A person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. synonyms serf, vassal, thrall
            verb 1. To work excessively hard. synonyms toil, grand away, sweat, work one’s fingers to the bone, work like a trojan/dog.

            Merriam Webster…..Slave
            1. A person held in servitude as the chattel of another.
            2. One that is completely subservient to a dominating influence
            3. A device (as the printer of a computer) that is directly responsive of another
            4. Drudge, toiler
            1. To work very hard

            There is absolutely nothing in those definitions regarding pigmentation so how in the hell does the word slave equal the N word or any racial epithet? There are multiple meanings of the word slave, apparently progs need to buy a dictionary!

          • Somebody says:

            I have a real personal issue with the whole meme that the word slave is taboo. I was smoking outside a hotel a couple of years ago in Alabama. I was having a conversation with someone about hot Alabama summers and my time working on various family members farms. In my reference I said I didn’t have a choice I was basically slave labor. An AA thug from Detroit (the real deal gang banger thug) was nearby and overheard me say that and he threatened me with bodily harm…….he was packing too, he made sure I saw his weapon. He went off on me……racist was the nicest thing he called me! The person I was having the conversation with beat feet inside the hotel, it was a man btw.

            I didn’t back down, in fact I told him I was so sorry that his limited public education had mislead him on the definition of slavery and the details of who had been slaves and where. I stated the exact definition of slavery, why my use of the term in my conversation was correct. Then I went on to talk about historical slavery across the globe. He remained in his threatening stance one hand near his weapon and the other in a fist too close to my face for comfort, but he did have a look of puzzlement on his face as I spoke. I also told him that his ignorance and lack of education did not make me a racist and then proceeded to define racist. He asked a relative nearby that was graduating from the university if what I was saying was correct. They were there for the graduation, the first in their family! The university graduated confirmed that I was indeed correct.

            At that point he backed down, actually laughed and said you learn something new every day or something to that effect. He then told me I was the coolest “white bitch” he’d ever met and that I was tough and fearless. He said most white people when confronted like that just apologize and walk away as quick as they can, which is apparently what he wanted from me. Then he insisted that I join he and his family in their celebration, the rest of the Detroit gang seemed less than thrilled with his invitation.

            I stayed long enough to be polite, thankfully my daughters came looking for me shortly. Funny side note, my daughters walked out of the lobby, took one look at who was around me and immediately went back inside the lobby. They called my cell phone to ask if I was OK and if I was coming back to the room, LOL! Then they called my husband and reported to him that I was hanging outside the hotel with some very unsavory characters so he called my cell too.

            I had no desire to hang out with them, but I certainly wasn’t going to scamper away like a dog with my tail tucked, that would be letting him win. I was VERY relieved to see my kids and disappointed when they b-lined back inside instead of coming to my rescue, LOL!! I know, I know another example of why smoking is hazardous to your health!!!

          • elliesmom says:

            My dad always called us the “minions”. I had a good laugh when Despicable Me came out.

  3. The Klown says:
  4. DeniseVB says:

    Poor Greg Jarrett, the guy’s got some problems 😦 I remember him from the OJ trial and just being a nice anchor on Fox where ever they needed him to fill in. Sweet face but didn’t even recognize him in the mug shot.


  5. The Klown says:
    • Constance says:

      The thing is I have noticed that men (the ones you work with and live with) get obnoxious and revolting for about 4 days each month. Then they blame me for being “off” when it is clearly them that has the problem. I think we need a name for this male instability and frankly I’m fed up with it.

  6. swanspirit says:

    And I bet, if there isn’t already an app for that , there will be soon . So soon, we can order from our phones .
    The perks from automation are many , beyond not having to pay a salary , sick days or health insurance , no hiring / firing, no breaks , no change of shift , less problems with infection control ; the benefits and savings are enormous . $15 / hour ? Sure , for the three actual people working there , as opposed to say ,15 to 30 that used to work there .

    • The Klown says:

      Machines work 24/7/365 without days off or vacations. They don’t go on strike, show up late, goof off, steal or sue.

      • swanspirit says:

        Oh yeah , I forgot about the stealing !! They don’t give free food to friends either , (stealing by a different definition 😉 )

    • 1539days says:

      Wendy’s has an app now that lets you order and pay.

      • 49erDweet says:

        And you can probably understand the machine (and vice versa) better than most of their order takers. McD’s recently put in a store next to a super dooper In N Out in my town to catch their overflow. Have heard shouting into screens and then in frustration cars leave empty McD lane to join the long wait at In N Out.

    • Ann says:

      In my purple suburb there are a lot of Repeal the S.A.F.E. Act signs. After the next major street, where things become decidedly red, I swear there is a sign on every front lawn. These people who feel strongly about a repeal should actually vote based on how a politician stands on the issue, and they could probably band together via voting “correctly” and get it repealed.

      Honestly though I have no idea why major portions of this hasn’t been repealed – probably because most politicians are political cowards, more worried about their jobs than the will of the people.

      Like anything, crime doesn’t stop at some invisible border. There is nothing to prevent a criminal from traveling to purchase a gun, and bring it back to NYS to commit a crime.

      • 1539days says:

        New York has the worst Republicans in the country. The SAFE Act required GOP Assembly support and I hope they lose their jobs this year.

  7. Lulu says:

    Why do Proggies hate Mickey D’s? The same reason they hate many things in our culture. It is an stage of adolescence to reject parents, family, community, mores, culture, authority, etc in human development to differentiate or separate themselves on the way to maturity, independence and individuality. Proggies never grow out it. They are stuck emotionally, intellectually, socially and developmentally. They see no good in their own culture or whatever surrounds them and want whatever seems exotic or exciting. If viewed as 10 to 16 years old you see what they are doing with their arrested development. Many grow out of it but many don’t. We tolerate extended adolescence far too long.

  8. I am sure that if we dig a little deeper we would find SEIU at the bottom of all of this. They are known for over-the-top organizing campaigns and for shooting for the moon. There isn’t any bigger target to unionize than McDonalds. A unionizing campaign has many phases and we are seeing this one go through the paces. Is there an Alinsky manual for 21st century union organizing?

  9. helenk3 says:

    this is just great

  10. votermom says:

  11. The Klown says:
  12. helenk3 says:

    my son is coming today and we are going to pack up the house. If I do not comment much it will because I will be tearing my hair out deciding what do I really want to move 3000 miles and what to get rid of. there will be a lot of knashing of teeth as my son will want to throw everything out and I won’t. Since my children now believe they are smarter then me, it should be interesting. but I do love them

    • Lulu says:

      Good luck! Anything you haven’t used in the past two years can go. Unless you just like it. And if you save a bunch of money not moving stuff you can buy new when you get there!

    • elliesmom says:

      I’ve moved back and forth across the country multiple times. Take as little as you can afford to. Furniture bought for one house seldom looks as good in the new place. Decorative items that have no sentimental value don’t usually work as well. Take only what you can’t afford both financially and emotionally to replace. It makes moving into the new place more fun, too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Happy packing and moving ! Contact a local charity to donate to, they’ll come haul it away for free and you’ll feel better for giving it up so easily.

    • votermom says:

      Good luck Helen!

    • Somebody says:

      Moving is expensive so I agree pare down as much as you can. Are you going to rent a place for a little while?

      • helenk3 says:

        going to stay with my son for a short time until i find a place on the gulf coast of Fla. I was thinking Tarpon Springs of Port Richie

        • lildoggy4u says:

          Helen, I hope you like fishing. Its great there. Welcome to the neighborhood. Tarpon Springs still has some of that old Florida feel to it.

    • 49erDweet says:

      And remember, after everything is done……..he’ll still be your son.
      Good luck, Helen!

    • Constance says:

      That sounds tough but there is a great new adventure ahead of you to focus on.

    • The Klown says:

      I hope the whole process is boring and tedious. No adventures – they make good stories but they are no fun to live through.

    • leslie says:

      How exciting. A new beginning. The part of moving that I do love, is getting rid of the stuff that I haven’t used and don’t need. (So far, that makes 3 crock pots, 2 teevees, a bed, a couple of large rugs and an ex-husband.)
      Hope your move goes well and you are happy in your new home – whenever you get into it. 🙂

  13. votermom says:

  14. swanspirit says:

    Vile Progs hate Mickey D because , they are essentially and irrevocably snobs and elitists , and there is nothing that anyone going to a Mickey D can be elitist or snobby about . I could go on about how going to a McDonald’s reminds them they are just one of the great unwashed that they imagine they are so far above , and look down upon , and to whom they play Lady Bountiful . They can’t get Starbucks there , or artisan bread , or even GMO free food . If they go there ,they have to rub elbows with the very same people they write about ;that they wail that Republicans take advantage of , and it destroys their elevated opinion of themselves . I am sure I could write a deeply redundant , lengthy piece about the inner workings of the Vile Prog, and how they got to be that way , throw in some statistics about Whole Foods and Costco vs McDonald’s and gluten free or paleo diets , but I would bore myself stupid. They are snobs , pure and simple .

  15. mothy67 says:

    TO brighten you day Cher tweeted again and twitchy has it. Funniest part are the comments.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    The Redskins are standing up to Harry Reid …. nice response to the pressure on changing the team’s name …


  17. swanspirit says:

    OT but wonderful !

  18. Constance says:

    I don’t usually go to McDonalds because Its so easy to just make food (and the drive through line is 6 cars long always). But I’m about ready to go buy a salad and coffee there every day. In my book if Progs think a burger chain should pay $15. an hour then they should start a burger joint that has all organic food and pays $15 and hour. They don’t have a right to brow beat another business into operating according to their puritan standards. And if the employees don’t like their wages they should get another job. My sons GF makes $20 and hour cleaning houses, an older friend of mine makes $18. an hour being a home visitor for the elderly, my son made $25. an hour 8 years ago working for a landscaper, my daughter took engineering classes including differential equations (which nearly caused her to digest her own stomach) and makes $25. and hour in her first real job. If you want to earn more money then figure out a way to do it.

    If I were McDonalds I wouldn’t continue to employ people who have bad attitudes when so many people are unemployed.

    • The Klown says:

      In my book if Progs think a burger chain should pay $15. an hour then they should start a burger joint that has all organic food and pays $15 and hour.

      First they would need government-guaranteed loans, then tax breaks and subsidies. When they go broke anyway they will be demanding a law mandating that people eat in their restaurant.

      Their “better” ideas only work when people have no other options.

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  20. The Klown says:

    I GOT A JOB!

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  23. DeniseVB says:

    Well darn, Conyers bought a judge or something. He was disqualified from the ballot because of fake names and addresses on the petition, this judge overruled the Michigan Sec. of State…… here’s the twitches….


  24. John Denney says:

    A large part of the problem is that the Fed deliberately inflates and devalues our money, striving to keep inflating/devaluing our money by 2% per year. That may not sound like much, but in 10 years, a $10/hour wage becomes effectively only about $7.50.

    • The Klown says:

      I don’t have a problem with a low minimum wage and occasional modest increases. What I have a problem with is the idea that we can legislate prosperity by mandating a high minimum wage.

  25. The Klown says:
    • 49erDweet says:

      Almost makes me ashamed I ever ran for judge. I’m sure tired of this two-tiered morality system that excuses all progressive malfeasance as mere strategy, to be expected.

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