History Repeats Itself in Iraq

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The evacuation of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, 1975


I hate being right all the time:

Al Qaeda-inspired militant group vows march on Baghdad after seizing northern cities

Al Qaeda-inspired militants in Iraq vowed Thursday to march against Baghdad after seizing two key cities in the north of the country this week.

A spokesman for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) said in audio posted on militant websites commonly used by the group that the fighters have old scores to settle with Iraq’s Shiite-led government.

The spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, also threatened that Sunni ISIL fighters would capture the southern Iraqi Shiite cities of Karbala and Najaf, which hold two of the holiest shrines for Shiite Muslims.

The Washington Post reported that militants had reached the city of Samarra, approximately 80 miles north of the Iraqi capital, by nightfall Wednesday.

Meanwhile, members of Iraq’s parliament were expected to vote Thursday on a request by embattled Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to declare a state of emergency. If lawmakers approve, the prime minister would be granted wider powers in running the country. Legal experts say those could include powers to impose curfews, restrict public movements and censor the media.

The Iraq prime minister has reportedly appealed for a military response from the Obama administration, but the New York Times reported that the White House has so far rebuffed al-Maliki’s requests. The Times reports that the White House has been reluctant to reengage in Iraq since withdrawing the last U.S. forces from the country in 2011.

Militants took Saddam Hussein’s hometown of Tikrit on Wednesday, as soldiers and security forces abandoned their posts and yielded ground once controlled by U.S. forces.

Only a day earlier, they seized control of much of Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, sending an estimated half a million people fleeing from their homes. As in Tikrit, the Sunni militants were able to move in after police and military forces melted away following relatively brief clashes.

The group, which has seized wide swaths of territory, aims to create an Islamic emirate spanning both sides of the Iraq-Syria border.

The capture of Mosul — along with the fall of Tikrit and the militants’ earlier seizure of the city of Fallujah and parts of Ramadi, the capital of western Anbar province — have undone hard-fought gains against insurgents in the years following the 2003 invasion by U.S.-led forces.


Vietnam and Iraq. Two wars we never should have fought, about forty years apart. We won all the battles and still lost both wars. I was too young for the first, but I opposed the second. I predicted that it would not end well, and I am being proven right.

Some will blame Bush for invading Iraq in the first place, and they’ll be right. Others will blame Obama for losing a war we had already won, and they’ll be right too.

American voters strongly supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003. I know this because I was one of the minority who didn’t. Then in 2008 the American voters elected a guy who promised to end the war, or at least our part in it.

Well, he did. Alea iacta est

It was sad and humiliating to watch the rapid collapse of South Vietnam after the withdrawal of U.S. forces. Sad because so many people had to die for nothing. Humiliating because we were powerless to stop it.

Now history repeats itself as the U.S. prepares to evacuate our embassy in Baghdad. Will there be another Killing Fields? Will the Kurds become the new boat people?

I don’t know. We’ll just have to watch events unfold and hope for the best. However I will predict that the next two years will not be pretty as Russia, Iran, the Taliban, al Qaeda, China and other geopolitical foes of the United States take advantage of the weakness of Barack Obama.


My work is done here.

My work is done here.


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115 Responses to History Repeats Itself in Iraq

  1. The Klown says:

    In both Iraq and Afghanistan we would have been better off if we just went in, killed the people we were after and then left.

    • 1539days says:

      We also didn’t have clearly defined, achievable goals. We “won” Vietnam when the Soviet Union collapsed because Vietnam was a proxy war against Communism, but that win had nothing to do with Vietnam.

      Iraq War 1 actually ended because we had a goal of Saddam’s forces leaving Kuwait. We didn’t continue on to Baghdad. The War on Terror had too much to do with taking out the leadership of a country, installing democracy and rebuilding the nations. All of this was to be done with as few civilian casualties as possible. It was also going to be impossible without basically occupying them forever.

      I was a proponent of the nuke ’em high response. Make Afghanistan radioactive as a lesson to would-be terrorists in the future.

      • The Klown says:

        Was it Donald Rumsfeld that said that all we would need to bomb Afghanistan back to the Stone Age would be a couple hand grenades?

  2. The Klown says:

    Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, we never won the war in Vietnam.

  3. votermom says:

    Obama is a traitorous wretch.

  4. The Klown says:
  5. The Klown says:

    I didn’t know him but he was from my home town:

  6. The Klown says:

    Very soon our $650 million embassy in Baghdad will be AQHQ.

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  10. mothy67 says:

    This is all so so sad.

  11. Falstaff says:

    Meh. Better this than having our troops bogged down there indefinitely. It’s an Iraqi problem, to be solved by Iraqis. The US invasion was idiocy from the start and every sacrifice was pointless, but at least it’s over.

    • driguana says:

      No, it’s not over…..it’s actually continuing in a downward, spiraling manner….rapidly.

      • Lulu says:

        Yes. It is not anywhere near over. Now it becomes a regional war probably.

        • The Klown says:

          The real question is if/how long before we go back.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Our recent “wars” have not been WARS. They’ve been “limited military actions”. Classic mistake of wishy-washy do-gooders. You can’t fundamentally change a culture without smashing it into smithereens so when it grows back it takes on a different form. In Vietnam we couldn’t do war, we just did battles. Stupid. Shoulda nuked Hanoi. Same in Afghanistan. Should have nuked the border cave complex area into a sand and gravel pit. In Iraq we shoulda got in, trashed everything military and got out in 180 days. Period.

    • angienc says:

      Spoken like the ignorant moron that you are.

    • leslie says:

      There was really no point to any of the invasions – and I was against them (the ones in my lifetime at least). But it clearly isn’t over. How can you even say that? We are still part of this world and what happens to where ever we have people (and where we do not) affects us as it affects others Just maybe not as obviously now as before. (and yes. I’m thinking with my heart and my head in this case.)

      • The Klown says:

        I supported the invasion of Afghanistan. We had to go in there to get bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

        But after we let him get away there was no point in staying in that shithole of a country.

    • Constance says:

      I don’t think every sacrifice was pointless. They took out Saddam and his sons who would have ruled for 50 more years. Sure they are going to end up with another strong man dictator and Islamic restrictions on women but it seems to be all they can manage. It’s not like the Al Qaeda-inspired militant group is fighting hard battles to take over the country. The official Iraq government and military is just laying down their arms and running away.

      It’s sort of like watching a litter of animals establish a pecking order. It’s painful to watch but if you interfere it just prolongs the ugliness. Eventually they will strike a balance they are willing to live with. Odds are we aren’t going to like it. For that reason we should use this time to get our own house in order.

  12. mothy67 says:

    Russia is not missing a beat
    http://rt.com/news/165548-lavrov-iraq-west-failure/

    Avoid comments. Depressing.

  13. DeniseVB says:

    Will Broadway make a musical now about Iraq ? Too soon?

  14. DeniseVB says:

    That didn’t take long, Brat goes on MSNBC ? WTF? What else did he expect from Chuck Todd? It’s “let me eat my waffle” moment, maybe he’ll survive it.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/11/bad-sign-cantors-vanquisher-surprised-msnbc-host-doesnt-want-to-just-celebrate-his-victory/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=haupdate

    • Lulu says:

      Hubris of an academic but he will get over it pretty fast. I think it was Vanity Fair yesterday that was making fun of him because he is attractive (the teeth!) and not a cross-eyed hillbilly. I watched most of that MSNBC interview and I thought he did very well for someone who is not used to the scum media. He very nicely called them out on asking him policy stuff when they told him the interview was to be about the election outcome. Who is surprised Chuckie the Dem knob polisher was trying to do a gotcha interview?

      • DeniseVB says:

        Nobody needs to go on MSNBC ! Brat’s a lock to win his district, why step in the dog poo network 😉

        Meanwhile, Hillary keeps gaffing……speaking of Senator Lincoln, also seemed to co-op Doris Kearns Goodwin’s Team of Rivals for a chapter title.

        • Lulu says:

          This is part of why I don’t think she is well. She isn’t on point and making sloppy errors. It is like she is just calling it in and going through the motions. And only give half a shit. I’ve been there due to illness and you feel like I’m doing it, shut up, I’m almost finished, let me rest, who gives a damn, why am I fooling with mess, I’m going home. I feel she is finishing obligations that she used to enjoy but she is running out of gas.

          • Constance says:

            I think she is consciously screwing with the Democrat party who screwed her. She isn’t saying she will or won’t run and that will have an impact on who does run in that party. She isn’t giving other Dems a free 2 years to work up to running for President. I hope she holds on as long as possible, but I think she is too old to run and too damaged by association with Obama.

    • Constance says:

      Not that big of a deal as MSNBC has only a handful of viewers.

  15. leslie says:

    Every time I hear the news, I think about the end of Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “2016 Obama’s America” where the map shows the ME, etc. becoming a Muslim world. If I recall, it looked like a world of death and destruction.
    Megyn’s reports of late are filled with “Now Hear This”….and… “You should be afraid – be very afraid”. Looked up Cloward-Piven and thought how pleased ValJar must be right now.

    I’m relieved to have a very full schedule at work today. I don’t think I can stand much more of this world/US/local bad news right now.

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  17. The Klown says:

    Poppy Bush is getting ready to make another parachute jump. He’s 90 years old.

  18. votermom says:

    Hey , AQ creating jobs in Iraq!

  19. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      They have “pivoted” to global climate scam. Iraq is so last week. Afghanistan is the week before that. Next week is “Save Our Kids” from Guatemala.

  20. helenk3 says:

    Charles Krauthammer talked about the silent takeover of the EPA under backtrack and the long lasting economic disasters it will cause. backtrack don’t need no stinkin congress he has people in place to create regulations

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/11/krauthammer-blasts-obama-hes-got-his-own-constitution

    • piper says:

      “Krauthammer went on to slam the EPA regulations, saying they make Stalin’s five-year plans look like a picnic. Furthermore, he said that Obama has “set back the cause of liberalism” by overreaching and being incompetent, which leads to a “crisis of confidence.”

      Warning that Obama is ruling the country like it’s a banana republic, Krauthammer concluded, “This guy is on autopilot and liberalism will suffer. However, so will the country.”

  21. The Klown says:

    The water must be cold.

  22. The Klown says:

    Imma gonna take a nap.

  23. piper says:

    Helen,
    Have a safe and pleasant journey across country. Are you flying or driving?

  24. piper says:

    Good articles by Richard Fernandez. Not sure if the ‘bots’ will ever wake up let alone admit that they worshiped at the feet of a false messiah. I would really like to know the names of the ‘men behind the curtains’ are. ValJar is only the messenger who tells BO what to do.

    http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/06/11/the-day-of-reckoning/?print=1

    • SHV says:

      “I would really like to know the names of the ‘men behind the curtains’ are. ValJar is only the messenger who tells BO what to do. ”
      *******
      Perhaps the biggest mystery in DC.

  25. helenk3 says:

    Insurgents have surrounded Iraq’s largest refinery in the northern town of Baiji, police and an engineer inside say – @Reuters

  26. helenk3 says:

    Turkish minister of interior affairs says there is no change in Mosul, Iraq, hostage situation, but health condition of Turkish hostages is stable – @aytekin_akin

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  28. DeniseVB says:

    Looking back on Cray-Cray Glenn Beck’s “conspiracies” debunked by MediaMatters……who’s the crazy?

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/06/30/glenn-becks-top-5-conspiracy-theories/180582

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  32. John Denney says:

    200 U.S. contractors surrounded by jihadis at airbase outside Tikrit.
    http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/200-u-s-contractors-surrounded-by-jihadists-in-iraq/#ELUjMiiekw5wgZoI.99

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