Obamacar
So I see this article at Vox.com:
Millions of Americans are paying less for Obamacare than cable
Subsidized shoppers on HealthCare.gov are paying, on average, $82 monthly premiums for health plans, new data from the US Department of Health and Human Services shows.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF SHOPPERS WILL USE FEDERAL SUBSIDIES TO PAY FOR INSURANCE
The report, published Wednesday, is the most in-depth look available so far at the prices that federal marketplace shoppers will pay for private health coverage. It shows the vast majority of shoppers will use federal subsidies to pay for insurance, significantly reducing their monthly price tag.
Senior HHS officials, in a conference call with reporters Tuesday, emphasized the report’s findings to show that Obamacare is keeping prices low for shoppers and bringing new competition to the insurance markets. To the Obama administration, the report is more evidence the health-care law is working as intended.
Most subsidized shoppers will receive hundreds in tax credits each month
About 87 percent of subsidized HealthCare.gov shoppers had at least part of their premium covered with tax credits, which are available to low and middle-income Americans. How much shoppers paid depended largely on how generous of an insurance plan they selected.
After accounting for subsidies, enrollees paid an average of $69 per month for the least-generous bronze plan to an average of $220 per month for the most-generous platinum plan.
Wow! That Obamacare sounds like a really good deal!
“My country ’tis of thee, sweet land of subsidy!”
So if the government is subsidizing healthcare that makes it free, right?
Right?
Uncle Sam doesn’t subsidize my cable. If he did I probably would have chosen the most-generous platinum plan, which also happens to be the “most-expensive” plan. But who cares, it’s FREE!
Millions of people getting hundreds of dollars in tax credits each month! I remember from my tax law class that credits are waaaaaayyyyyyy better than deductions. A deduction only reduces the amount of income you pay taxes on while a credit is FREE MONEY!!! If your credits exceed your tax liability you get a refund, possibly even bigger than the amount that was withheld from your pay!
Isn’t it awesome to live in a country that gives away money???
That’s why we call him Uncle Sugar!
The Crawdad Hole 
I tried to voxsplain something to my grandma once. She whipped my ass with a belt.
So the plan now is for the media to go back to earlier scandals to divert attention from current scandals. Voxxy is discussing Obamacare? The public has already decided they hate it so the explainers want to talk about it now? I guess that is better than talking about ICE hiring “escorts” for 65,000 “refugee” children from south of the border in JANUARY! To be resettled in the US. http://weaselzippers.us/190573-government-advertised-in-january-for-escorts-for-65000-illegal-alien-children-to-be-resettled/ So that is the plan. That Obamacare is sure going to handy when a TB epidemic breaks out after warehousing children who they solicted to come and then are sent out in the general population. But what about the enormous Obamacare deductibles that will have to be paid by the public because of a pandemic caused by the same idiots that created Obamacare? The levels of failure are making my head hurt.
That is utter bullshit, they knew they were coming, they planned for it. As usual they didn’t plan well enough. I bet you a dollar to a doughnut the administration is behind all the advertising in central america too. Also, this bid makes clear they have no intention of sending them back to whence they came.
I agree the Obama regime or their corporate masters are behind the advertising for illegal immigrants in central America.
This here is the kinda stuff you miss when you don’t listen to Obama:
I have developed an aversion to the sound of Obama’s voice.
It is one of the reasons that news channels keep loosing viewers. Everyone hits mute or change on the remote when they are just trying to catch the weather. CNN is in a big fight over their rates with ad agencies. I wonder why? /S/
I’m serious. I can’t listen to Obama talking without starting to feel physically ill.
My cat leaves the room when the droning begins
Smart cat.
I wanted to punch that photoshopped pic of him at the end of the post.
I sometimes (or as TehOne might say “periodically”) print out that photo and then set fire to it. or shred it. or stick pins in it…
His voice sets my teeth on edge and his smile/diabolical grin makes me want to throw up. I haven’t been able to listen to his voice since 2008. (It’s been a long haul for me)
Lololol
What a great idea!
I never understood why people thought he was such a great speechifier in the first place. He’s a crappy debater too.
He’s a crappy president too.
Of course! Where else would we have come up with the word “obamanation”?
What? You say it isn’t a real word? It is now.
Developed? I cringe when I hear him. So wish I could find the pre 2008 oprah interview. He and meechelle went on about how they could not afford to travel. Oprah offered her private jet. I’d like to see her audited. Any gift in excess of something in excess of like 13k has to be reported. The giver pays the tax. Staying at the Hawaii compound if the IRS wanted to could deem that a gift and even a political donation.
Why did Oprah endorse him when he wasn’t even qualified to run her company? She’s a damn racist, that’s why. Though she does have a compelling bio working her way out of the slums to the top, she should have known better and lost a lot of her fans for missing the obvious.
Mine didn’t have to develop. 🙂
The thing is Obama has zero integrity so his words have no meaning and you are left listening to a person who is just uttering annoying sound. Because he is doing this on purpose I don’t feel obligated to pay attention.
Those subsidies sure are great, meanwhile here in Miami, they’re yelling for more money due to the influx of the escorted kids to our schools. At least here they won’t have to take English classes.
http://tinyurl.com/qxusx6o
Just tell Obama that you need a subsidy!
LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE! Obama: SOFA in Iraq wasn’t my decision:
Obama tells Romney in Oct. 2012 that he did not want a Status of Forces Agreement in Iraq:
He has reached the point he cannot remember all the lies nor can his staff. It is now the Joe Izuzu Administration.
“If you always tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything” ~ Mark Twain?
“Remember, we have the video” ~ Greta ? Megyn?
I love that these old tapes are surfacing, can’t argue with that evidence. 😀
😆 tru dat
Our media lap dogs also can’t remember all the lies.
Via Hot Air:
OT: Did we find and entomb it, but kept it a secret to avoid attracting terrorists?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-19/did-saddam-have-wmds-after-all-isis-overruns-iraq-chemical-weapons-mega-facility
Apparently this is a facility that we knew about before the war. Saddam had shut it down after the 1st Gulf War and UN inspectors had verified that it was no longer active. Some old chemicals were “entombed” there but they were not in “weaponized” condition.
If Reuters and ABC are to be believed what useful WMDs Saddam had made their way to Syria before our troops ever arrived. So the story goes they were transported by Russian in vehicles that were made to look American. At least that’s what was reported in the lead up to all the Syrian red line stuff. Supposedly similar news was reported way back when, but only on MSM websites, never actually aired.
Same goes for yellow cake, apparently there was 500 tons or more over there. The US quietly shipped it to Canada for use in power plants. The final shipment left Iraq sometime in 2008 I believe, but it was never reported on supposedly for security reasons.
Yellow cake is uranium ore. You have to refine it to get fissionable material. You have to refine it even more to get weapons grade stuff.
I know, Saddam apparently had a boat load of it. I don’t think he ever restarted his nuclear program though……..perhaps he bought it because he was hoping to???
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She single-handedly ruined the pink tennis shoe market. Even two year olds don’t like them anymore. /S/
I had to restrain myself from replying “How about some signed pink panties instead?”
I’ll put myself in time-out for even thinking it.
That’s OK. I would have suggested a divorce settlement sheet myself. She cleaned her old man OUT! She dumped the kids on him, then plead poverty in paying child support. What a gal.
😀
Obama’s immigration polling craters. http://www.gallup.com/poll/171755/approval-obama-handling-immigration-falls.aspx
He’s lost 7-12% of Repubs since 2013. Lost 8-13% of Indies. And 8-16%!!!!!! of Dems since 2013. So what does he do?
He tries to blame Mexico and Central America after his Harvard geniuses set it all up. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/19/obama-tells-mexico-illegal-immigrant-children-wont/
Too late Bronco. And calling it a illegal migration doesn’t mean squat.
Tired of the kabuki on this
Every Congress person’s emails should be open to thier constituates. They work for us. Unless it is national security every email that every democrat wrote or received should be read. Same goes for Rethugs if you post on craigslist you want to engage in sado- masochism with albino Amazon LGBTURXLMNOP women and used the public’s resources then be held accountable. I think Issa should request all email from everyone. Palin’s high school yearbooks were news but all of this bitches(call thought police) are lost. Give me a break.
honk
I had to send my “representative” a tweet because I could no longer access her email address. I could not find it on her website. So my tweet was less that pleasant (and obviously it was public) when I mentioned she was no longer available to her constituents and wondered why that was.
Let;s imagine that months of Sarah Palin’s e-mails went “missing.” Would the media be as uninterested?
And define working class? Does he mean peasants? Kulaks? Unlawful migranting populations? New Yorker subscribers? His maid?
TV news is worse than the internet because the Internet has different perspectives some of which are fake. The TV news is just one awful attempt to jam propaganda up our asses and down our throats and their goal is to mislead.
On the internet the bullshit gets called out.
I wish you wouldn’t ruin the reputation of a perfectly fine automobile by posting pix of a couple relaxing during their El Nido vacation tied to a story about sleazy government.
“El Nido” is a Spanish word meaning “Don’t blink or you’ll miss it.”
You can always spot the phoney salesguys when they talk about a customer over in “El Nye-dough”.
Stripped?
Puh-leeze! Repurposed!
I learned how to drive in “59 Edsel. When I got bored my grandmother would give me the car keys and I would drive around in the front yard. I think I was ten so that was 1963. It was a great car but very big. The auto transmission was pushbuttons in the steering column.
My second favorite cop car of all time was a ’59 Ford with – seriously – the county’s first V8. The sheriff, himself, soon afterwards had a matching Edsel with our first Interceptor engine.
Jun 20-22 MN, St. Paul. Minnesota Street Rod Association’s 41st Annual “Back to the 50′s”. Minnesota State Fairgrounds – Saw some real cool cars on I-94 and in the hotel parking lot.
Cool. My gs is into restoring rods. Travels all over searching for projects.
My grandmother drove very hot cars. She got her first car at age 12 in 1916. Her mother could not drive (or wouldn’t) so she drove to school with her younger brother in rural Louisiana. When she lived in SF she drove Lincolns, in NJ Cadillacs, in Texas she drove Oldsmobiles until the Edsel. Then Buicks. Always a huge engine and she drove fast. Her father died in a car accident driving an MG in 1953. He was 77. He still had his hat on after the crash.
Sorry. I love the older MGs and Rovers, but would never, ever want to be in one during a crash. El foldo’s.
If your grandma drove Olds 88s she was right in style. Sweet, sweet car.
Megan McArdle:
Never watch Juan Williams while eating breakfast in your hotel room. Couldn’t really explain the O’s leadership or plans so try to divert attention from his messiah to the Republicans – they don’t have a plan either. Thankfully, the host pointed out that the Republicans weren’t in charge or in the WH. Juan tried to bloviate his points but she cut him off.
Paul Ryan just spent five minutes verbally bitch-slapping the IRS commissioner.
Paul Ryan is a sheep in wool’s clothing. Arrogant smarty pants rhino pulling the attention away from the real scandals. I guffaw at the man. He is a tool.
Agreed. An amnesty shill like the rest of them.
Paul Ryan Verbally Bitch-Slaps IRS Commissioner: “I Don’t Believe You…Nobody Believes You!”:
I’ve met so many DC/Gov insiders that are exactly like this IRS commish guy. The place is a cesspool. They are all so entitled and completely worthless.
He’s the IRS commissar.
Dah.
The House had their chance to do something when they wouldn’t pass Obama’s budget. The only thing that can stop them is taking their money away. Ryan can bitch at them all he wants, it’s too late and it’s his fault.
Congress needs to stop passing budgets with an omnibus bill. They need to fund each agency in separate bills. That way they can hold any one agency’s feet to the fire through their budget. As it is now and has been recently the media can scream that the R’s want to starve children or push grandma off a cliff if they dick around with the budget. I think even the media would have a hard time drumming up sympathy for the IRS and many other government agencies if the house would just separate them. It would also be more difficult to hide pork, which is why they don’t separate them.
BTW is the obamacare subsidy paid by monoply money or borrowed Chinese yens?
Bitcoins
The government has a nice chunk of Bitcoins thanks to busting silk road…….so it’s possible. There are also lots of rumors about the government being behind a group that mines Bitcoins.
The Obamacare subsidies are paid by charging other Americans , who don’t get subsidies, even MORE.
Like me. I’m self employed. My premiums went from $230 a month to $629 a month in 2 years.
You’re Welcome.
Wow. You must pay a LOT for cable.
The subsidies do not bother me. It is the huge expenditure on the bureaucracy that sickens me.Billions spent and wasted. An expansion of medicaid would have worked better and been far cheaper. If you earn twice the poverty level free. A liittle more reduced. We did/do have a health care debacle on our hands and The ER was/is the doctor’s office.
Also there are refundable credits and non refundable. The EIC is refundable health care credit is not nor is child care credit. I think we need a cap on education expenses as well. Should you choose to send your kid to an elite private school the deduction should equal the cost of what it costs the tax payer for a public school. Not a penny more
The subsidies do not bother me.
Me neither, in and of themselves. If you’re going to provide healthcare to people who can’t afford it otherwise, then somebody has to subsidize it: whether it’s a doctor writing off a bad debt (and presumably making it up from other patients), or a hospital providing “charity care” (which also usually involve making it up from other patients), someone will subsidize care for the medically indigent or else people will be dying in the streets. The fact that this corrupt bunch of yahoos decided to raid the public purse in order to pad the balance sheets of the insurance companies (and the 7 figure salaries of their executives), well that *certainly* bothers me.
It’s not the subsidies that bother me, it’s the rank dishonesty. Just tell people the truth.
IT IS NOT “FREE” HEALTHCARE!
It is that they lied, gave us absolutely no say, rewrite it at will and whim, and then did the bait and switch. Who agreed to this? No one but the petty tyrants in the administration and I’m not even sure about them either. It is the ultimate fly by the seat of your pants clusterfuck.
FYI You can give away a million dollars in your lifetime and have it be tax free while you are alive. Transhfer the family home to one kid or a trust and it is left intact. Trust laws are insane too. Caroline Kennedy pays n ext to zip on what was left to her and yet she feeds.
It’s gotten to the point where the media should recognize that Romney was right about the infamous 47%. Between Obamacare, Medicaid, EBT, and Social Security Disability, we have a situation where parasites are feeding off those who actually work, and the parasites just keep demanding more. Of course, Bronco and the gang are happy to oblige, buying votes as the country falls into insolvency.
Pull it back cowboy. I have never read anyone here refer to others as a parasite. You may be trying to stoke a hornets nest. Epic fail. You are baiting. You are simple and dismissive and sure rude. Bet your mommy is proud her kid has no mind of his own. Tool.
Then call them “non-workers who live off the labor of others,” or perhaps “takers,” as opposed to “makers.” Why get upset about the term?
I cannot speak for anyone here. You called people parasites. I have not once read on this site that word. EVER. No abuse happens here. People have opinions and they articulate. No one bashes anything. I am a gay man who says I think transgender stuff is bull. I am respectful but I Am allowed to articulate. I do feel two men or two women can raise a healthy child. Caring for the well-being of an infant has nothing to do with gender identity. There are hundreds of thousands of kids in this country in need of structure and love. Two guys why not adopt. Wanna cry homosexuality is natural fine then do not claim you have a right and insurance covered access to fertility clinics. Would you call me homophobic for my feelings?
Because it’s misleading, insulting, and unnecessarily divisive. Most of those 47% work full-time, by the way. See: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/09/19/the-real-truth-behind-the-47-percent-why-arent-these-people-paying-federal-income-taxes/
Expecting “the media” to recognize they’ve been involved in group think and not, like, actually doing their jobs is like expecting the neighbor’s dog to all on it’s own quit pooping on your lawn. Great to dream about, but ain’t gonna happen till you fire off your shotgun……or something.
I don’t know who Nikole Flax is. Is she the designated scapegoat?
What I do not get is that amnesty hurts poor black urban youth the most. Is it some kind of passive-aggressive mind fuck. They will be less than I. Donna Brazille’s plan for the future of the dimocratic party is absurd. She may hate the white man and be fueled by an intensity to upset the apple cart but she is vapid in that she ignore’s the American Dream. Come here work hard create a better future for your kids. African Americans will suffer from amnesty. I have two applicants for a job one is black the other is hispanic but bilingual. I would hire the hispanic all other things being equal.
Mothy, for at least since FDR…..maybe even longer, but that’s as far back as I can remember, blacks have been useful tools for progressives. They play them like a steam calliope. Progs promise, blacks believe and vote, reboot before the next election. It’s like Christmas comes a month after Thanksgiving. Automatic. It’s “ungettable”. Best not to lose sleep over it.
IRS Commissioner John Koskinen grilled by Rep. Kevin Brady:
What a scum bucket .
First of all, I do think Hillary was doing her job at the time, and there was evidence lacking. Second, I don’t like the “victim” is being kept anonymous because she’s a “rape” victim, she’s 52 now and if she’s going full smear on Hillary, give me her name. Third, it’s in The Daily Beast, so I’ll assume they’re not Hillary supporters now…..but the story’s starting to explode……
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html
The girl probably never knew at the time what was being said. The case never went to trial. The stuff Hillary said about the girl was in court papers based on “information and belief.” Hillary probably relied on what her client told her.
Imagine if what he said was true and Hillary didn’t act on it because she didn’t believe him. That is how defendants get dumptrucked.
Pathetic, though, that the girl never knew what was said about her, and never had a chance–then–to defend herself.
Never went to trial, and afterwards—Hillary laughed it off, and it’s on tape.
Not good.
This is Omerica. Dumptrucking clients is okay if it helps Obama. The Constitution is evolving (into kindling).
If Hillary ever trusted TehOne and thought he and his cult would be fair and keep promises to support her after His terms, she was foolish. This has Axelrod’s name all over it. (and Lee Atwood’s too).
I like how this came out after Hillary started distancing herself from the Obama cult. It seems like someone is bent on taking all the 2016 GOP and Dem contenders out now. We may end up with a President Biden after all.
Well Biden would certainly be an already well-trained puppet for whoever the hell is running our country 😉
They’ll have to increase that anti-drool medication, though.
Hmmm, just giving her a taste of what else they have on her? Bill’s foundation has been under scrutiny too, money laundering problems with those Haiti Relief Funds? Chelsea’s being paid by NBC “not to work” now because of possible Conflict of Interest? Mom hasn’t declared a thing yet. Strange stuff is starting to bubble up, yep, Chicago Mob’s fingerprints sounds about right.
Ayup.
Time to order more popcorn.
What will damn Hillary is not how she defended the case, but how she laughs about her client being guilty yet passing a polygraph, and her general air of callousness during interview.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-tapes/
It is just as repellant as her “We came, we saw, he died” laughing reaction to Qaddafi being torn apart by a mob. For me it’s a gut reaction of whoa … back away slowly.
My tweeted reaction to the tapes is:
“Every criminal has the right to the sleaziest lawyer he can afford.
Doesn’t mean that lawyer should be POTUS.”
The Anti-Hillary Dem Wing of the Vile Prog Party is already picking the keywords …. Hillary, defended, child rapist, laughed. It’s all they need for their low information ‘bots.
I wonder who tipped off Free Beacon ? The Clinton library’s the last place I’d find them sniffing around. Most con sites are in overload keeping up with the Obama bumblef**kery. 😀
Yes, re her taped laughing. War on Women, and all that.
He couldn’t afford Hillary. The taxpayers of Arkansas payed for his defense.
I agree, her cackling at inappropriate times is unseemly and disturbing. Hillary is too experienced with public speaking and perceptions for this to be excused as nervous laughter.
According to the original story (although not the editorial column that ran afterwards) in the Beacon, she was his court-appointed attorney.
OMGLOL
I LOL’d when I saw the sonasoft tweet was from 2009. Maybe they should be called in to chat with Congress 🙂
Oh, Snap ! From those pesky kids at CollegeInsurrection………via MOTUS
A little too slit my wrists for my taste. I want to hear anger. I want to hear betrayal.
Be patient Tim, it will come 🙂
The WH is doing a volte-face on the immigrant “surge”. They planned it, they encouraged it, the horrible non-approval polling for Bronco freaked them out, and now today ““Misperceptions of how we apply our immigration policies” were among the factors driving the surge, Cecilia Muñoz, the director of the White House domestic policy council, said.
“This is a very dangerous trip that people are taking,” Ms. Muñoz said. “People are putting their children in the hands of smugglers, in the hope or misperception they would be allowed to stay. It’s very unlikely that would be true.” http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/21/us/us-plans-to-step-up-detention-and-deportation-of-migrants.html?_r=0
The illegal immigrants have “misperceptions”. Blame them. It is never the WH’s fault for a damn thing. Ever. The humanitarian catastrophe planned to force amnesty immigration reform in an recession election year on an unwilling public by an has completely backfired.
^This^ Let the Obama White House stay freaked out, and let us hope Cantor was the first to fall. I pity all politicians when the beast wakes up. It’s time for American voters to throw entrenched incumbents out.
I will say it again the immigration policies of blah golf blah golf blah blah alienates white working women. Tell my Aunt Maureen at 70 raising kids that there are jobs Americans will not do as she changes a colostomy bag for 12 an hour.
I crack myself up
That’s great! 😀
That’s just what I said!
oh, and Awesome works just fine here, too.
Ouch. And fuck off not to you but meeeeechelle. The library is free and they have activities planned almost everyday. Pain in my ass is going to a theater workshop and they are going to put on The Wizard of Oz at the end of the summer. Cost is 75 but free if you cannot afford. No shame just sign up and pay what you can. Two local churches offer day care for free but ask for what you can give. The YMCA will not charge a penny if you are struggling MUseums are free if they get any money. Donations is what the sign should read. They do not. I have a premier membership to the museums in Pittsburgh and it comes with benefits(i get invites to everything) Cost is a few hundred but we have traditions and one is we take all the kids to the museum the day after Thanksgiving. I pay less than 50 dollars for everyone. Plenty of stuff free to educate a child. Pick up a fucking book at the library. Greatest gift I have ever given was when irratant broke her collar bone last summer. I had no idea what to do with a 6 year old. Jk Rowling came to my rescue. We read all seven books and bossy twerp got a hero in Hermione Granger. As long as I live I will never forget sitting up all night with my reading The Chamber of Secrets. We read the book in a day. LUCKY me.
My kids’ school suggested TenMarks this year, which is a free website for math. I think it’s an Amazon company.
Point is there already exists so much for kids to do if the parents are pro active. Buck up. You had a child deal with it.
My nephew has to go through 12 weeks parenting as per judge to see his kid. Closed environment with signs everywhere no lighters no cigarettes. Metal detector. Hard core. He has now been busted three times for cigarettes. He cannot wait an hour and a half. .
Ain’t no way that chump is going to guide my babies girl’s life. NO WAY.
I wouldn’t have a problem if the school year were continuous. But that should mean kids could graduate at 16, not that schools should get 20% more money.
What a smug s.o.b. that IRS guy is. And why in the hell would Dem reps in that hearing want to defend the IRS when they have to know that American citizens hate the IRS?
O-bah-MA!
They’re pretty much boned either way.
What happened to TV ? I shut it off mid eighties. IT is now sex and booze..Pretty Little Liars, Vampire Diaries.
You’re right, it’s gotten much better.
15 year olds banginh their teachers knocking back bourbon. Really?)
Vampire Diaries is pretty crappy now.
Looks like a VA hospital parking lot solar project/(scam?). Our local VA has the same thing, cost about $10 million. Back “in the day”, when there were journalists, someone would follows the money and discover the bribes and kick backs.
It looks to me like it would collapse on the cars during the first heavy snowfall. Maybe even a rainstorm.
A hailstorm would annihilate every panel.
Hopefully that parking lot isn’t anywhere near an airport or the approach pattern to an airport. People think solar farms are so great, but the big ones are causing issue for airplanes at least at certain times of the day. Imagine being blinded by all those mirrors while trying to fly or worse while taking off or trying to land at an airport.
Klown
I Got stuck in the middle of talks about a benefit album. Swift came up and I suggested You’re No Good ala Rondstadt or Stuck in The middle with you. No idea what the benefit is.
What song do you think she should cover? I love Rondstadt but if I was gonna go obscure and say Stoney End
I am currently watching the IRS hearings on CSPAN 2/3. Well actually, I’m watching Rep Blumenauer (D- Oregon) blow Koskinen. It is pretty disgusting.
LOL.