The Emmanuel Goldstein News Network


It’s Monday, so I’m picking the lowest hanging fruit on the internet. That’s right, it’s time for another segment of Whatchoo Talkin’ About, Willis?

Oliver Willis at the Daily Banter:

The Catastrophic Success Of Fox News Channel

Fox News Channel launched in October of 1996. As a business and ratings enterprise, Fox News has been an unqualified success. Its ratings far surpass MSNBC and CNN, and while the bulk of its advertisers are targeting octogenarians (catheters, reverse mortgages and gold are its staples), it has been a financial success for Rupert Murdoch and News Corp.

But for conservative politics, Fox News has not done well at all.

Since the right wing “news” channel hit the airwaves, four of the five presidential elections have had a majority of votes go to the Democratic nominee, and three out of the five elections elected a Democratic president. Under Fox’s watch, the Senate also swung from Republican control to Democratic control, while the House has gone from Republican to Democrat and back to Republican for the time being.


Fox is a victim of its own success. Fox is the tip of the spear in the conservative media ecosphere. It creates the right wing storylines, gives them publicity, beats up on the mainstream media for not indulging in the same hyperbole, and rewards the Republican politicians who help them to whip up those storylines.

The problem for the conservative media is that the cycle is feasting on itself now. In the Clinton years, leading into the Bush era, Fox needed the mainstream press as it punched the left. When Fox was the underdog to CNN it could whine that CNN was setting the “liberal” agenda. But with Fox on top, the right has lulled itself into believing the “scandal” leading the O’Reilly Factor is on the lips of every American. But it isn’t. Fox is a conservative channel serving the needs of the conservative community, but its impact on mainstream American life is now severely limited.


In the recent past, I would have wanted Democrats and the left to have a cable news answer to Fox News. After watching the 2004 election, I honestly thought that was one of the only ways they would have an electoral shot. Luckily, I was wrong. Because while commentary on MSNBC does definitely lean left nowadays, it is not nearly as all-encompassing or devoted to party as Fox is to the GOP. This isn’t even putting into consideration MSNBC’s Morning Joe, which is hosted by a Gingrich Republican and is obsessed with the conventional wisdom and center-right nonsense from people like Mark Halperin and Harold Ford, who have little influence and gravitas outside of the media itself.

Fox News is great for its own ratings, for the pockets of Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, Bill O’Reilly, and Sean Hannity, but it isn’t good for Republicans and conservatives, who are now slaves to this beast they must feed lest their constituents become restless.

Fox News will continue to dominate cable news ratings, and that’s great for Fox News. And little else.

First of all let me say that I’m not a fan of Fox News. I really don’t care for ANY television news because it tends to be “infotainment” with lots of sizzle and very little steak. If there is a plane crash I want to find out what happened, not listen to bloviating gasbags speculate without facts or watch interviews with distraught family members of the victims.

From its inception nearly 20 years ago Fox News carved out a niche for itself by presenting news and commentary from a right-wing point of view. They have never pretended otherwise. But Fox very much represents the GOP establishment, not the lunatic right fringe.

Almost from the first broadcast Fox has been a boogeyman for Democrats and the left-wing of American politics. Opposing Fox News is an obsession that has spawned a cottage industry of anti-Fox media, including MSNBC, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Media Matters, TPM, Mediaite, Salon and various lefty blogs.

I don’t watch Fox News, but usually read several stories about them every day, most of which were written by people like Oliver Willis. Ironically, right-wing blogs seem to spend far more of their time monitoring MSNBC than Fox.

While Fox News may dominate cable news, that’s like being the biggest frog in a small pond. And while it is an article of faith on the left that Fox News viewers are uncritical followers of Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, that’s just one of the many bogus caricatures that lefties believe about conservatives.

Yes, Fox News covers some stories that the rest of the media ignore. But that is an indictment of the the other news networks, not Fox News. The IRS targeting of Tea Party groups and the Benghazi cover-up are not a bogus scandals, no matter how much Oliver may wish it so.

The left-wing obsession with FOX News is revealing, because that is the one television news outlet that they don’t control. Notice that Oliver assumes that the primary purpose of the news media is to help advance a partisan agenda and candidates. That says a lot about Oliver and his employers at Media Matters and The Daily Banter.

Fox News is their Emmanuel Goldstein.

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106 Responses to The Emmanuel Goldstein News Network

  1. The Klown says:
    • 49erDweet says:

      Oh good grief! Those poor, starving, oppressed refugees! Oh, wait. They’re NOT poor, starving, oppressed or refugees? Well, will they vote for us anyway?

  2. The Klown says:
  3. The Klown says:

    CNN’s Candy Crowley Slams Murrieta Mayor for Not Suppressing Protest:

    • Lulu says:

      Why would anyone voluntarily appear in an interview with that arse licker Crowley. Maybe at gunpoint but why else?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Why doesn’t Candy care this much about the Pro-Amnesty “gang” ?

      Not sure of the sources, but have seen links to Anti-American Communist groups behind the supporters of amnesty. I would sure like to see this fleshed out in the corporate media.

      • Constance says:

        Yeah I feel like there is a big “something” we are missing in the “poor children rush to America” story. There is clearly a highly organized effort to move illegal aliens here and integrate them into communities. Hispanics don’t have that much political clout in these various communities. The job market seems saturated with unskilled workers already, I drive by a day labor hiring place daily and there are a bunch of people hanging around it and there are always about 10 people hanging around every Home Depot. Our government is complicit, they are taxing us to support their efforts and they are keeping extremely secret about it. Something major is up. I hope it isn’t a criminal element they are selectively importing (yes Progressives are stupid enough to selectively import criminals).

        • elliesmom says:

          Yesterday I thought we should give the illegals Detroit. After thinking about it overnight, I believe a better solution is to annex Mexico.

          • Constance says:

            I like annexing Mexico. We can then have better control of the drug trade and we can have all of their natural resources as well as their cast off population excess and criminals.
            But the Detroit idea is a good one also.
            But Citizenship means something to me and I am VERY opposed to giving it away easily.

          • Monster from the Id says:

            Yeah, ’cause trying to change Iraq and Afghanistan worked out so well… 🙄

  4. The Klown says:
  5. 49erDweet says:

    Cute shoes you’re wearing, btw.

  6. The Klown says:
  7. DeniseVB says:

    This is a good read……picking a Dream Team administration….

    I doubt it would fly for the GOP establishment, but I would sure live in any country run by these folks.

  8. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      Ollie’s got his morning list and by gum he is going to twit it all out before 10 a.m. Then lunch. Then a nap and a little “me” time. Sheesh.

  9. The Klown says:

    I laughed so hard I hurt myself.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Have never heard of that news source before and it links to another news source to an article by a Yale-y who likes writing about “feelings” or something. Deep stuff, no wonder Fox News bugs owillis 😉

      • Lulu says:

        You know that moving rates (both full service and U-Haul) from NY, LA to Houston, Austin, Dallas refute this. It cost about 4 times as much to move from there to Texas as it does from Texas to NY or LA. I’m not kidding. Supply and demand is an ugly thing.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I was thinking if they only used the Congressional Districts map it would only have a smattering of blue. Big difference 😀

    • leslie says:

      This story line has been around ever since I was a Democrat (before 1008). I think we could argue that the people with the highest IQ are moving to try to help out those blue states/urban centers where MUCH help is needed due to the mismanagement of the touchy-feely Dems who have been in charge.

    • 49erDweet says:

      And wishful thinking makes it true! So, there!

    • 1539days says:

      I red the body of the article for about 3 seconds before I realized the weasel wording. They are defining “red” America as all rural areas and “blue” as all urban areas. Smart and single people often move from towns to the cities. After they get married and have kids, however, they will move to suburbs. Politically, this is meaningless because most red states have urban centers and many blue states have rural areas.

  10. The Klown says:

    Looks like he’ll be gone for a while.

  11. elliesmom says:

    The Obama Presidential Library float was the most popular float in the 4th of July parade in Omaha. The judges gave it an honorable mention award. (Giggles)

    • 49erDweet says:

      Man, did it grab the attention of professional LWNJ’s. They went berserk! No sense of humor. Had to be R! £©£

      • The Klown says:

        There is no umbrage left. The LWNJ’s took it all.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I posted one of Zombie’s photo roundups of “protesting Bush” with all the hateful signs, street hangings and wishing him to die a slow death, etc. ::crickets:: Funny how easy that rage can be squished. F**kin’ hypocrites.

  12. The Klown says:
  13. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      There actually are. Especially in Laredo. Bronco could buy a caddie there also as soon as they dried him off. But they are currently in Austin (at the legislature higher education sub-committee) trying to get their dumb kids admitted to the UT law school via coded schmooze letters to the university president. It is developing into one of the more ridiculous and outrageous Texas legislature idiot scandals. Good times!

  14. Lulu says:

    Dear California,
    We are sending to you some cases as DC said just pick a few and forward.

    • elliesmom says:

      One of the commenters at that link said the government is using biological warfare against its own citizens. At first I thought it was hyperbolic in the extreme, but then I thought about. They are deliberately releasing people who are carrying disease and pestilence into the general population so maybe calling it germ warfare isn’t that far over the top.

      • DeniseVB says:

        These people would have never made it through Ellis Island.

        Obama’s going to ask Congress for 2 billion dollars “to help” at the border. If they refuse, how do you suppose he’ll treat the GOP then ? What a guy.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Big secret in CA is the Great Pacific Boat Race (for row boats from CA to HI) is not really a race, but a means of transitioning illegal aliens to their new “forever home” state. A dicey way to travel, perhaps, but at least no snakes!

  15. Carolyn Geiger says:

    Just curious, when did Mexico relax it’s border standards? I was under the impression it was just not possible to just slip over the border and just decide to live in Mexico, but suddenly all these people are crossing that narrow neck of land that joins Mexico and Central America….who got paid? That would be the easiest border to control of all as it is tiny by comparison to our border with Mexico….thoughts? I lurk here all the time and love the site and feel as though I know everyone here….Carolyn

    • Lulu says:

      When they got paid. Mexicans are coming over too in huge numbers but are not turning themselves in like the Central Americans. They get picked up. The border is literally wide open. And the Border Patrol has a gag order including the union.

    • elliesmom says:

      About 400,000 illegal crossings from Guatemala to Mexico each year. I don’t know how many from Belize. Mexico doesn’t police its borders. It’s left up to the gangs and the cartels.

      And welcome to the conversation, Carolyn

    • Constance says:

      There is clearly an organized effort to move these people into the USA and there is a manufactured narrative to hold off criticism. This is a complex plan and it has been in the works for months if not years. I think there are more operators from the USA involved than operators from Mexico. In fact I would bet there is payment of American tax dollars being made to Mexico to push these “helpless children” including males between 13 and 21 through to the US border.
      I am proud to be a Citizen and I resent any effort to give away citizenship cheaply. We have a process already. NO AMNESTY.

      • Constance says:

        Do any of you really believe the illegal alien “children” are holding on to the roof of railroad cars to travel. I don’t.

        • elliesmom says:

          I don’t either. It’s too easy to just row across the river.

          • Lulu says:

            They are claiming that they are “ridin’ the rails” from Central America through Mexico to McAllen. Then they get off. I do not believe that Mexican railroads would allow this unless they are told to do so. Or it is staged for sympathy. Now there are stories of thousands riding “special” chartered buses through Mexico, pulling through the checkpoints and surrendering to Border Patrol at the international border checkpoint. Why would they just let a bus through like that unless the Obama administration told them to do that and the BP is under gag order. The media is not set up at the border to cover squat.

          • lyn says:

            Obama’s lap dogs are too lazy to report on this until Republicans start commenting on the diseased and illegal alien children.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I just read this crossing has been planned for almost a year and the Dems were told about it, but not the Republicans. If true, Boehner is worse than I thought.

  16. Carolyn Geiger says:

    Heading to sleep now, work night shift. Hope to read thoughts tonight…C

  17. DeniseVB says:

    Sarah’s asking folks who still support Obama ….. Why? Good FB rant by Mama Grizzly….

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  20. votermom says:

    OT. Saw this on FB
    You know how there are action figures from movies etc? This guy repaints them to make them sooo realistic.

  21. mothy67 says:

    I have adored Dolly Parton forever. I was a diswasher in high school had to walk home because the busses stopped. She kept me company. Jolene, Here you come again, Islands in the Stream. Had a huge walkman and I had to cross the street because there was no where left to walk. Major highway and I dodged cars. Coat of Many Colors kept me going.

    Check her out now

  22. 1539days says:

    That story is Alinsky retread. After spending years trying to pretend Fox isn’t on top, they now use its popularity to claim that popularity is hurting its supposed benefactors. Plus, he’s full of shit.

    Since the right wing “news” channel hit the airwaves, four of the five presidential elections have had a majority of votes go to the Democratic nominee, and three out of the five elections elected a Democratic president. Under Fox’s watch, the Senate also swung from Republican control to Democratic control, while the House has gone from Republican to Democrat and back to Republican for the time being.

    First, even though he’s trying to slam Bush with Gore in 2000, the fact is that only 2 of the last 5 presidential elections had a Democrat majority. Clinton and Gore won with pluralities (more than the other guy, less than 50%). It would have been accurate to say the Republican only got a majority in 1 out of 5, but Willis missed the boat on that. It’s also true that in the 18 year history of Fox News, the House and Senate switched parties a decade after Fox was born. It’s also true that Republicans have controlled the House for 14 out of the last 18 years and the Senate for 10 out of 18.

    While Fox is a giant among the midgets of cable news, it is also in the top 5 of all cable channels, including ones like USA and TNT. It essentially ended ACORN and has been the first in every current scandal in this White House. I don’t Fox to be right wing, only that the other networks are so left wing it’s hard to tell straight journalism anymore.

  23. mothy67 says:

    I think Coat of Many Colors is painfully gut wretching beautiful. When she speaks I melt. It is a brutal song that gives life. With patches on my britches and holes in both my shoes.
    I think it is one of the most beautiful songs every written. You may disagree but I found this when I was ten. I found it then and now a religiously beautiful song. I offer no apologies.

    Great song
    ,Words are perfect. ,

  24. mothy67 says:

    Wow Taylor Swift is a smarty. I buy her stuff because I think she is a great example for girls. My kid and all her friiends sing along non stop. Back to December is morbid. Sad song yet they all sing along. I like Swift but she is depressing Every song is poor me my heart is broken. Might fit with some but it gets old fast.

  25. mothy67 says:

    I have to say I am a Taylor Swift fan but she is dark.

  26. mothy67 says:

    Picture to Burn

  27. mothy67 says:

    This will knock your socks off

  28. Constance says:

    Off Topic: Miley Cyrus’s NBC concert special bombed last night. Several channels showing reruns earned better ratings. I guess this is an example of sex doesn’t sell or at least sex through the distorted malecentic eyes of the men who run media doesn’t sell. Sure she still got paid but no one will be in a hurry to hire her again. What a waste her mismanagement was.

    • votermom says:

      That’s encouraging news. I know my kids think her act is gross.

      • mothy67 says:

        Hate to say it but the girl can sing. Pipes she has. Because I am a repetitive fag I suggest her cover of Jolene with her godmother Dolljy Parton.

        • 1539days says:

          People need rules. When she was on Hannah Montana she was limited by Disney’s rules. When the show ended, she just became a hot mess.

          • The Klown says:

            She is crazy like a fox and laughing all the way to the bank.

            She’s still a bad role model though.

          • mothy67 says:

            She can sing.Decent range and she controls what she has. I can hit low notes and do it well but I am unable to hit a high note. She stays in her zone.People mock Lady Gaga but she can sing. Eight octaves easy maybe more. She did a cover with Jennifer Nettles and kicked ass.

          • lildoggy4u says:

            Too bad she has to advertise her talent from the gutter. It gave her a lot of publicity, but no class whatsoever.

  29. swanspirit says:

    My dear friends , I haven’t been ignoring you , I am dealing with gastritis , and have been seriously under the weather , tonight is the first night I feel I might live !

  30. mothy67 says:

    I worship Dolly Parton she took a simple song and made it a world wide sensation. Two sylable word that she turned into an anthem.Your beauty is beyond compare with flaming locks eyes of emerald green. Jolene Jolrne. We all know the words. Written to a woman that workedcat a diner. She knew she could not compete so she asked the woman to back off. She did and Dolly wrote a song.
    I respect the woman. She has been buying books for ever. She spends millions. Never speaks about it

    • 1539days says:

      Plus her version of “I Will Love You” is better than Whitney Houston’s.

      • mothy67 says:

        Hell yes. Amazing song. I remember it from a movie she did with Burt Reynolds a million years ago. I always thought she was a great writer over looked because she put on a show. She has owned her stuff for decades. Not a stupid person. She created her own label years ago. She bought the rights to her old partners music. He was dying from cancer so she paid for it all and gave him back the rights.. Been smitten by her since I was knee high to a grasshopper. Waiting for others to catch on. She is a writer.

        • lildoggy4u says:

          One thing a lot of people don’t know is that Dolly built her Dollywood to employ the thousands of people who had no jobs in the area she grew up in. Today, the entire area is a boomtown.

    • Constance says:

      I enjoy Dolly P too. Maybe she can rehab Miley…But I have the feeling what we are seeing is the real Miley. Very too bad.

  31. mothy67 says:

    N9 denying these ladies can beltit out

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