When the Blue Model Fails Don’t Blame the GOP

File Detroit files for bankruptcy


Sally Kohn at the Daily Beast:

The Republican Occupation of Detroit

It took him two tries, thwarting his state’s voters’ will, but Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder got his wish—a major city that is dead politically.

Detroit is no longer a city. Sure, it looks like a city. But that’s a façade. The oldest city in the Midwest—home of the first traffic light in America and the first urban freeway, the birthplace of Motown and the automobile and the ice cream soda—is now a ghost. Detroit, the place, is recovering—even thriving in some ways. But Detroit, the political entity, is dead.

In 2011, Republican Governor Rick Snyder signed into law Public Act 4, which gave the state the power to place cash-strapped cities and school districts under the control of state-appointed emergency managers. In 2012, Michigan voters overturned that law. But in 2013, Snyder signed a barely revised version of the emergency manager law—and then used it to take over Detroit.

So in the fall of 2013, Detroit voters went to the polls to elect a new mayor and City Council, but it didn’t matter. The powers of the mayor and City Council have effectively been suspended. Detroit’s emergency manager, Kevyn Orr, appointed by Snyder, has all the power and then some. A Democratic city that elected Democratic leaders is now controlled by the appointee of a Republican governor.

Or, to put it differently, Detroit—a majority African-American city—is now controlled by a governor elected by a majority of white voters in the state. It really doesn’t matter that Kevyn Orr, the state-appointed emergency manager, is black, nor that Mike Duggan, Detroit’s mayor, is white. What matters is that half of the state’s black population lives in Detroit. So through the state takeover, “half of black Michiganders have essentially lost the right to vote,” says Ife Kilimanjaro, co-director of the East Michigan Environmental Action Council.

[…]

In the early 1900s, African Americans moved to Detroit to escape the inequality and injustice that persisted in the South. Much of the Detroit as we celebrate it in our national lore sprang from black political self-determination, economic leadership, and cultural expression. Plenty of dynamics conspired to dismantle Detroit’s greatness. But even bankrupt, struggling, falling apart, Detroit could still cling to its identity as a city—whatever price that meant in the past, whatever hope it held for the future. Now because of Snyder, even that is gone.


Since 1962, every single mayor of Detroit (8 total) has been a Democrat. Not that it should matter but 5 of them were African American. During those 52 years of Democratic control Detroit has gone from being one of the most prosperous cities in the country to being the bankrupt poster child for urban blight. Parts of the city look like a cross between a war zone and a ghost town.

Detroit is like a drug addict. As long as you keep enabling an addict, he’ll keep using drugs. If you want him to quit you have to do an intervention and use some tough love.

I don’t know if Detroit can ever be restored to anything close its former glory. Probably not, because the circumstances that made it great are unlikely to be replicated.

The Blue Model of government is failing all across this country. Detroit is ground zero for that failure. If Detroit was a business we would just shut it down and sell off its assets. But it is a city filled with people so the answer is not that easy.

What we can no longer do is pretend that this problem will just go away on its own. Hard times require hard choices.

Blaming racism (as Sally Kohn attempts to do) is irresponsible, offensive and counter-productive.


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113 Responses to When the Blue Model Fails Don’t Blame the GOP

  1. DandyTIger says:

    No, no, no, Detroit was in perfect condition, booming, flourishing, a bright shinning light on a hill, up until Rick Snyder took over a few years ago. Or something.

    • 49erDweet says:

      There are none as stupid as those standing around with fingers in ears, yelling and screeching so as not to hear a voice of reality because it might have cooties.

  2. The Klown says:

    WE DEMAND FREE STUFF!

    Detroit’s Water and Sewerage Department ramped up its shutoff efforts in March in an attempt to collect more than $90 million it is owed by Detroiters who are behind on their bills. But as the shutoffs accelerated, so did the criticism.

    The United Nations decried the shutoffs. Welfare rights groups marched downtown to protest them. U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Steven Rhodes, who is presiding over court cases in Detroit’s bankruptcy, criticized them as well and told water department officials to show what they were doing to help indigent Detroiters keep their service.

    Last week, the department halted the shutoffs until Aug. 5 while it continues to alert poor customers to available assistance programs.

    I am a victim. The Democrats told me so. I have a right to free stuff FOREVER!

    If I can’t pay my rent, I should get to keep living there for free.

    If I can’t pay my utilities, I should get them for free.

    If I can’t afford food, I should get food for free.

    Even if I can afford it, I should get birth control for free.

    I am not a slave, so I cannot be forced to work!

    • Constance says:

      I’m all for the free birth control. Without it you are going to have 5 times the societal victims that you have today. If this sort of person who is attracted to victimhood shows any interest in controlling their reproduction they should be helped and encouraged. Hell I would pay them $100. to have birth control shots or implants or vasectomies or tube tying procedures. This is not a racial statement. I would pay the same amount to every race.

      • Anthony says:

        Birth control costs about $20 – $40 per month if paid out of pocket. Most who can’t afford that cost are eligible for Medicaid, which would pay for them in full.

        If people were not using birth control before, what would make them any more likely to use it now when its free?

        I’d rather see mandatory funding for bc, child care, etc. be put into a flex fund where people can allocate those funds to treatments that are more pertinent to their own health concerns. There is no logical reason why ALL people should pay for free birth control and child care whether they use it or not (like men and women past childbearing years). Just my opinion

        • Constance says:

          I like your idea of personal flex fund for most people but we are talking about the people with victimhood mentality. There is a logical reason for All people to pay for their birth control and that is because it is cheaper than paying to raise their victim status randomly occurring children. Also if erectile dysfunction drugs are paid for in our mandatory insurance policy then birth control needs to be covered.

          I am also for free genetic testing of all apparently fatherless children before they are granted government aid and then deducting child support from the absent fathers pay. Of course as long as men control the Courts, Congress and the Presidency that’s not going to happen. It’s not only women who procreate irresponsibly and dump their victim children on society.

          • Anthony says:

            From that perspective, I guess both men and women should pay for vasectomies, whether they need them, are capable of having them or not.

            I’m somewhat with you on the topic of erectile disfunction meds, but there are urinary and prostate conditions that can also be treated by those. A good solution would be to require a diagnosis of those (urinary/prostate) conditions before the drugs are paid for.

            I don’t believe this is a gender issue (“It’s not only women who procreate irresponsibly and dump their victim children on society.) but rather an accountability issue. Octomom would be a perfect example of this.

            As far as the victimhood mentality goes, I have no sympathy for professional victims. Once the system can no longer be milked and deprive the truly deserving of the help they need, then everyone who is scamming the system will bring their milking stools home.

          • The Klown says:

            A vasectomy is a lot cheaper than 18 years of child support.

          • WMCB says:

            Um, many insurances will not pay for ED meds unless one can prove low T or other medical disorder. I know – I spent enough time on the phone trying to get them approved for patients.

            Obamacare contains NO provision that Viagra has to be paid for. None. So the Viagra comparisons the way the progs do them are just stupid.

          • Constance says:

            I’m sure we all do pay for vasectomies and I’m OK with that. Birth control pills also have some uses besides birth control. Face it, Republicans can’t win elections so the Democrat party is going to be in control and they will Detroitize the whole country. Your only hope is to limit the number of victim class people whom you will be taxed to support. Of course Democrats being the party of bureaucracy, you will also be paying for the bureaucracy that the Dems set up to service the victims.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          WE spay and neuter our pets. 🙂

          • WMCB says:

            I don’t favor sterilization, but I’d be willing to discuss some kind of long-term, minimally invasive, reversible, mandatory birth control for BOTH men and women who are on public assistance, if such a thing existed. At the very least after the second child. No one is forced, but you can’t get taxpayer money if you refuse. Go have all the babies you want on your own dime.

            *shrug* Call me a horrible person if you want. I think may be, long term, both better for society and kinder to the poor themselves.

      • 1539days says:

        The line currently being drawn is over abortifacients. That’s why Hobby Lobby objects to 4 types of birth control that are mandatory coverage under the ACA. I think making BC available is the only way to reduce abortion rates because all historical evidence shows women will try to abort at the same rate, legal or not, without it.

        I still don’t agree with the Obama stance that a baby is a “punishment.” The United States is not overpopulating. Birth rates are actually below replacement among US citizens. Immigration (legal and otherwise) are the factor increasing the US population.

        • WMCB says:

          Biggest problem with “making birth control available” is that the people you really don’t want having tons of kids are the irresponsible ones…..who also tend to be the ones who will fail to use BC no matter HOW “available” it is.

          • Somebody says:

            I agree with you on both points WMCB. Those that should use birth control fail to and I agree with some kind of reversible something or other after 2 kids. I think perhaps the implant would fill that bill, but there may be some women that can’t have that??? I also agree society shouldn’t bear the burden because of your lack of responsibility.

  3. Constance says:

    How could they screw up that bad in Detroit? You almost have to try to be that destructive.

    I once switched planes in Detroit 25 years ago and was menaced by creeps. I had the same thing happen to me in Miami, both times my kids and husband were with me. I will have never gone back there and will not even change planes in either city.

    • Lulu says:

      I used to feel sorry for people in some of these hellholes. I don’t anymore. Detroit is going to be a hole with some suburbs or small cities ringing it that function in a semi-rational manner. The number of abandoned houses and other property shows just how hopeless it is.

      • The Klown says:

        If you live someplace where there are no jobs, MOVE!

        Don’t stay in a hellhole and demand that the government come fix it for you.

        • Lulu says:

          Agreed. When it is so bad that you cannot sell the property you own or inherit and just abandon it to go work, live, retire, die somewhere else it is too late to fix and spending tax dollars to encourage more failure is epically stupid. History proves that cities have failed throughout history so it really is not something especially surprising. Move out, move on.

          • Constance says:

            All the abandoned houses are depressing though. Houses that aren’t lived in and heated etc, deteriorate quickly. They should tear down abandoned houses and even force out the few people who remain by trading them land. That way they won’t have to provide utilities to a few far flung people and they should turn the land into farm land or even wilderness. But the blocks of urban blight will slow down any progress.

          • Lulu says:

            Abandoned houses are health hazards also. They attract rats, critters like squirrels, bats, snakes, and even mold, etc. They are detrimental to the health of the neighbors and most cities require they be torn down and charge owners accordingly. I don’t know if Detroit couldn’t or wouldn’t enforce their health and derelict building laws or gave up. Other cities have had these same problems through the years such as New Orleans many times in its history and why people leave in waves like my antecedents did in the 1920’s. If there is no reason geographically for Detroit to exist it will disappear eventually.

  4. The Klown says:

    ICYMI:

  5. The Klown says:

    The Progs are really pissed that all their Jew-hating isn’t having the desired effect.

  6. piper says:

    I grew up in Detroit, a vibrant and fun city. We ran, biked and walked all over our neighborhood without fear. I went to Detroit schools when education was stressed and discipline reigned. Actually I was afraid of being bad – those old teachers wore clodhopper shoes which could easily grind you to a pulp. Life changed after the 1967 riots and eventually we and many others moved to suburbia.
    My good friend who was and is still a prog. finally moved away spouting high taxes and crime forced the exit. BTW, she blames Coleman Young for most of the decline.

    • mothy says:

      I support dress codes. You go to school to learn not express yourself. How black pants and a white oxford became culturally insensitive blows my mind. . Evens the playing field as well. M
      No need for a ten year old to be wearing 300 dollar sneakers. My brat can wear board shorts to school. Sorry school is about learning It should be serious. Hardcore serious. I took issue when obama made the white house business casual. Fuck no you chose to work there. You effect three hundred million Americans you bet your sweet ass I want you to be serious.

    • driguana says:

      There is no doubt that the 1967 riots changed the tenor of Detroit. It was almost like saying…OK, the hell with this place. It’s difficult to find out all of the details but it seems in some respects those who burned it down then are paying the price now….

      • WMCB says:

        Having a valuable critique of the current system NEVER means that one automatically has a better plan once you tear it down.

        Societies forget that, over and over.

        • The Klown says:

          This includes both democracies and dictatorships. Just because the old system is bad that doesn’t mean the new system will be better. Look at Libya and Iraq, or Iran before and after the Shah.

          It is not enough to be a successful revolutionary. You have to be able to govern after you win.

          • lildoggy4u says:

            Egypt – always wanted to vacation there for the history. We’re watching historical monuments being destroyed throughout the Middle East to rewrite that history. My friends were in Egypt during the Arab Spring revolts, they felt lucky to escape with their lives and had worked there for over 20 years. Many friends of theirs were no longer friends. Remember Obama’s Cairo speech anybody? The media won’t mention it.

  7. Ann says:

    NYS has had control boards before. They have the ability to stop pay increases for union workers, freeze hiring, decide what was essential hiring, negotiate repayments, etc. The politicians quickly learned to use this to their advantage, “It’s not my fault I can’t hire/repair/do this.” They blamed the control board.

    Detroit isn’t the first city or county in the country with a control board. I doubt it will be the last either. To say a place isn’t a city any longer because of a control board is just stupid. They don’t last forever. They just work with the union, control spending, and when things are back on track, they dissolve.

    • 1539days says:

      It basically says that a politician is useless and can’t run a city anymore. Frankly, they should just hire Mitt Romney. He’d fix that shit.

  8. piper says:

    Also lived in Minnesota for many years. Won’t tell you much about my connection to people who worked for Jesse V. and Mae S.(Lt Gov.) Jesse won because people were tired of the mud slinging between Skippy Humphrey, AG and Mayor Norm Coleman (didn’t raise taxes but added user fees to get more money out of St. Paul taxpayers). Big surprise when he actually won. As they say, he couldn’t take the heat and criticisms plus low poll number so he decided not to run for a second term blaming us for picking on his wife and family.

  9. The Klown says:
    • Constance says:

      I hate to be so cynical but in a part of the world where women have little power and few options I can see Palestinian men sending a wife they are tired of and daughters they never wanted to a shelter they know has been used as an armory. It’s an easy way to get rid of people.

  10. WMCB says:

    Heard some (GOP) person moaning over the DREAMers being SOL for meaningful legislation in the current climate. I wanted to spit. Because here’s the deal: I do have sympathy for those who are illegal, but grew up here through no fault of their own. But the experience of the American public re: immigration is that every time we are willing to shake hands, the pols immediately grope our ass.

    And after a lot of times of being willing to tentatively shake hands, and suddenly feeling your ass get groped, YOU STOP WANTING TO SHAKE HANDS. So no, I don’t want to hear the pols excoriating the public for being all “hard-line”, and geez, not even willing to shake hands! They won’t even discuss any reform unless the border is locked down first! What kind of person isn’t even willing to shake hands???

    I’ll tell you what kind – the kind that has gotten their ass groped one too many times. That kind.

  11. WMCB says:

    Shit like this is why there is now such a backlash against feminism. I’d seriously be concerned sending my son to college on many campuses today, where accusation = guilt.

    http://www.cotwa.info/2014/07/bipartisan-senate-bill-on-campus-sexual.html?spref=tw

    • DandyTIger says:

      Part of Puritanism was the persecution of the un-pure. High on the list were adulterer women and for a while, witches. In our new Progressive Puritanism, high on the list are men and their un-pure thoughts towards women.

      • WMCB says:

        Some men are talking about combatting this by filing (university, not necessarily criminal) rape charges themselves, everytime they wake up drunk in bed with a girl.

        The gender wars are going to get ugly unless the feminists learn to be sensible and lay off the man hate. *If it comes down to all-out gender war, my money’s on the men. And that will not work out well for we women at all.

        *standard disclaimer that observation of reality and patterns does not constitute approval or what I wish for. It constitutes…..observation of reality and patterns and human nature.

        • 1539days says:

          Every reality show I’ve ever seen has shown that a group of men can work together, but it takes a lot of effort to get a group of women to get along. Not a good beginning for a battle of the sexes.

          • WMCB says:

            Neither gender is better or worse. We both have our gifts, and traits that can be good or bad, depending on situation and what trait best serves it. And those traits are *general*, distributed along our respective Bell Curves, not rigid. Any given woman may be more physically aggressive than any given man. Any given man may be more “feelings oriented” than any given woman. But viewed *as a group*, we have some subtle differences. And that’s okay.

            Groups are groups. Individuals are individuals. Half the gender wars would not be an issue, on any side, if people grokked that basic reality.

  12. piper says:

    This is gonna gripe Mary Burke who’s running for governor and her followers, the unions. Am so tired of her ads.
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-collective-bargaining-reform-law-in-its-entirety/#comments

    • Mary says:

      Yes, but in the same week, Obama’s NLRB approved new regulations allowing fast food workers to unionize for better hours and wages.

      By the time Obama’s goons get done, my quarter pounder combo will cost $12.00.

      • WMCB says:

        And it won’t be ordered/served by humans with jobs. There will be a few in the back cooking, and you’ll be ordering/paying at a touchscreen kiosk.

      • Constance says:

        So many jobs will be lost. I live in Seattle where the dim Dems in charge passed a $15. an hour minimum wage mandate. It doesn’t take effect until next year but already my gym is closed for 5 hours during each day. Previously a young woman with a now 8 month old baby worked during the day, she brought her son and put him in a baby cage or a sling and made $9. an hour, where will she work now? Also my local diner is now closed in the early afternoon so a whole shift of people who barely spoke English are out of work, where will they work now?
        I suspect the whole gym will close soon because they don’t make money from people working out they make money from people believing they will work out and paying their dues rather they do or not. So now people who might sign up are going “wait when are you open? I’ll never remember that” So they will sign up at 24 hour fitness thinking “I can surely work that in”.

      • Jadzia says:

        I have to admit that I don’t really get why FFW needed new regulations to unionize. Doesn’t everybody who is non-management (and maybe non-emergency workers) technically have the right to try to unionize? Maybe I’m missing something.

        On another note, McDonald’s employees are paid higher wages here (not $15/hour, but higher, and they all get benefits and vacay), and I do not notice either visibly lower staffing levels or prices that are HUGELY higher relative to wages. They are somewhat higher, of course–a Big Mac combo at my local McD’s is $9.78 at today’s exchange rate and as far as I can tell, it’s about $7 in a comparably sized city (Portland, Oregon) in the US. So 30 percent-ish as a raw number? Although I would bump that difference down to some extent to account for the fact that minimum wage here is higher–$12.77. Of course, then there’s the issue of the unemployment rate here versus there….

        And my head is swimming and I give up. Clearly I was not destined to become an economist.

        Re WMCB’s kiosk point. We do have them, but nobody seems to use them! (Except me, to avoid making an ass of myself by butchering the language.)

  13. WMCB says:

    This is one of the most reasonable, sane articles I’ve seen on gender disparities in some fields. I don’t think most of the gap is from any sort of sexism. I think the lion’s share of it is simply different interests, priorities, and choices by men and women. That’s not to say that women who want to do STEM shouldn’t be encouraged to do so. Of course they should. But I seriously doubt it’s ever going to be 50/50, and I see no reason why an arbitrary “equal representation” should even be a concern or goal.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/isaaccohen/2014/07/30/an-ether-of-sexism-doesnt-explain-gender-disparities-in-science-and-tech/

    • mothy says:

      I am so sick of gender awareness.
      I love my baby. fuck off the rest of the world. She is my best friend. I dealt with diaper rash poop and struggled with buying a different color balloon every day.
      I did what I had to do. Zero time for poor poor pitiful me she got screwed in the parent department. I can never fix that but I do bowl and I hear laughter and joy in her voice.
      I would take everything that bad happened to me times ten to hear the lilt in her voice. No sacrifice.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Mothy, did you mean “awareness” or “bias”? My 4 yo GD is very, very aware of herself as a girl and glories in it, so that seems healthy to me. Or explain.

        • The Klown says:

          My daughter made it clear before she could talk that she was a girl, she liked being a girl, and the whole world better not forget it!

        • mothy67 says:

          How about I love my cretin and I am sick and tired od fuck stains. My baby girl is mine tl protect. Shut your hole if you want to sit in NYC and dictate from your sad lonely life how I raise a kid. Ever changed a diaper when there was a rash. Epic battle. Get a kidvto floss
          . Nightmare a tiny bit of string going between teeth can make D Day look like a stroll on the beach

    • votermom says:

      It’s worth noting that many of the women who complain about the dearth of women in science don’t themselves enter these fields. It’s “science for thee, but not for me.”

      Heh.

      • mothy says:

        votermom
        I know you are going to send care packages to your kid. You may be as crazy as me. You are already planning what to pack in a box to send some love. I get it Shay is 7 and I am packing boxes.

        • votermom says:

          Hahaha!!! How did you know? LOL.

          I am actually thinking kid could start buying some twin-XL sheets in a few weeks when back to school stuff goes on clearance. 🙂

          • swanspirit says:

            PayPal is a really easy way to send money to your children ; if they have a Paypal card it works in any ATM . Actually , it works too well . 🙂

      • mothy67 says:

        I think you should do a camp night in your living room. Build a fort and rent all the 80’s films. St Elmos Fire, Ths Breakfast Club, Class, Hortor films about sororities being stabbed, anything with Rob Lowe, Go all out cheese. Even get Weekend at Bernies.
        I live in fear of one day I am going to have to tell rugrat I am gay. Well it only gets worse. We were in the supermarket and this woman yelled my name. She is from Brazil and was a very successful super model. She married an opthymologist and has three kids. We had a lot of sex for years. We are friends. I got my pup by mistake. I am not equiped with what it takes to raise a kid I Learn but honesty is big for me . How do I tell her uncle tim is gay but he has fucked a lot of women. I mean lots of women less than a thousand but more than a hundred. . I am not a sex crazed tool. I just ..met a lot of women.

        • WMCB says:

          Meh, if she’s like most kids she’ll kind of pick up on the whole sex thing (hetero or homo) before you ever tell her squat. Kids are quite adaptable.

          • mothy67 says:

            I know you are right. Shay is my friend. She is smart and sensitive. Trampolines scare me. I do not want her on one. I get images of her head laying limp on her shoulder. I cannot take it.. I put few limits on her and when I do I talk to her. I am afraid of trampolines. It is me but I say to my baby I am afraid of those. I do not order her not to get onbo e. I simply speak to her as if she was my friend and I say they scare me.
            She is my friend. The left side of my chest is a half an inch higher than the right side. I have so many scars. Chest isbunlevel because it was a new wire broke through my skin. Wires ripping out of your body hurts. Really hurts.
            Somehow I stepped in shit. Little one got me. I am not normal. I will never be. I can be as tough as they come.

    • elliesmom says:

      As a woman who went to engineering school and then taught science and engineering to both young men and women, I would say once a woman gets herself to the door of the engineering company, properly credentialed, the door gets opened for her quite readily. But beginning in elementary school girls are conditioned overtly and subconsciously to believe math and science are something they won’t be good at. My own daughter’s second grade teacher informed me my daughter was math phobic, and it was my fault because, well, of course girls pick that up from their mothers. After I set her straight and offered to observe her class for her and point out where she might be signaling the girls that math is harder for them, which she refused, my daughter started getting A’s in math. It’s hard to gauge just how much the dearth of women in the physical sciences and engineering is due to a natural reticence to choose them and how much is cultural conditioning until we stop discouraging women from even trying, I ran my classes with mostly single sex lab groups. As a result the girls got to actually put their hands on lab equipment and control the computer equipment. The boys had to learn how to keep the data records and write up the lab reports. It was a win for both sexes although I expect the girls appreciated it more than the boys. I ran a martian rover competition for 10 years, and there was only one year a team of boys won.

      • WMCB says:

        Interesting that your single sex groups did so well. I am actually beginning to come around to the idea that gender-segregated classes might be the best way to go for many things. From what I see, in trying to structure classes around either male OR female preferred learning style, you short change one or the other.

        And them let the chips fall where they may. As I said, I don’t think 100% of the STEM gap is gender preference. But neither do I think that it’s reasonable to assume 50/50 is something to shoot for.

        • elliesmom says:

          The standard taught in “teacher school” for gender equity in science class is to put two boys and two girls in a standard 4 kid lab group or one of each in a 2 kid group. I observed when that happened, the boys learned to use all of the lab equipment and controlled the keyboards and computer mice. The girls were relegated to keeping good lab notes and preparing the lab report. Girls who already knew they liked science would rebel, but most of the girls just went along. When I put girls with girls and boys with boys, the girls had to learn to perform the experiments, not just watch, and most of them responded very well. The boys were more likely to fight for control of the physical equipment, and tried to pass the buck over who had to do the written work, While I think they all belong in the same classroom, until the boys get used to the idea the girls get equal time with the equipment, and the girls realize they can do it and may actually enjoy it, some gender separation is a good idea.

          • WMCB says:

            This is why, in my mind, some (not necessarily total) separation is good. Harping on the boys to squelch their natural “aggression” (which is in reality just sort of a brand of male eagerness) might help the girls, but is truly frustrating to the boys. Competitiveness is not a dirty word. I think boys actually NEED to be more grabby and challenging and rough-and-tumble in their interactions. It’s what boys do. And they need safe space in which to do that, just as girls need space to learn to be more confident.

            I’m just really tired of our tendency to label so much of normal, natural young male behavior as bad and undesirable simply because it makes girls uncomfortable or less competitive. Find a way to make the girls competitive without putting an iron lid on the boys. If that means separate groups for some things, that’s fine.

          • The Klown says:

            If I had gone to an all-boys school I would have done much better in high school. The presence of females made it hard was a huge distraction.

          • Somebody says:

            ISWYDTT

  14. DeniseVB says:

    Saw this on an Ace group board, LOL…….

    I now understand Vox. It’s Buzzfeed for people who consider themselves too smart for Buzzfeed, but are in reality too stupid for Buzzfeed.
    http://www.vox.com/2014/7/30/5951877/sharknado-2-10-important-things-we-learned

    I think the Vox ‘splainer is either taking Sharknado too seriously or failed miserably at a humor piece ?

  15. WMCB says:

  16. WMCB says:

    There are no words…

  17. WMCB says:

    Mark Steyn is hit and miss for me, but this is a great piece on how the proggies are ruthless and totalitarian over “allowed” speech. This part stuck out to me:

    “It’s interesting to me how scared famous people can be. When America Alone (personally autographed copies of which are exclusively available, etc, etc) came out, I used to get occasional emails from Hollywood – not from the 20-million-per-picture guys but from bona fide and Oscar-nominated stars (ie, not fake Nobel winners) – saying how much they liked the book, but please, don’t mention it to anybody because they have to work in this town”

    http://www.steynonline.com/6494/hi-ho-silver-away

  18. WMCB says:

  19. WMCB says:

    LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this! Someone re-worked the stupid “Moms Demand Gun Sense” ad:

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Sigh, the liberal hypocrisy is alive and well in 1%er Old Town Alexandria 😀

    • swanspirit says:

      I think he should have said a couple of thousand children , but then he would have had to pick them off the sidewalk after they fainted .

    • mothy67 says:

      I love guys like him. He is fit smart and has a sense of humor. The image of Republicans being old white dull men that smell like moth balls has been eraficated.
      Kids love edgy. Seriously Harry Reid or Trey Gowdy.

  21. swanspirit says:

    I met a man from Israel today , he is the man who gets the grocery carts and returns them to the inside of the store . Even tho he is advanced in years . he is quick , and I complimented him on that , and we had a little chat in the parking lot . I asked him if he wished he was still in Israel , and he said ” I am too old to fight ” That was what was uppermost in his mind , defending his country . What he said made me want to cry . So many here support Israel .Obama is an anomaly . The anomaly in chief .

  22. DandyTIger says:

  23. mothy67 says:

    I got a letter today from At&T informing my credit was no good. I have a 799 score. I never applied for a phone debt is less than 4 k that i owe to the IRS . I send 150 off per month. No other debt. I called at &t because I was approved for a line I just could not finance the phone. Who has at&t? I did a complete search and nothing else shoeed up. Lawyer told me I have a bad credit score because I have no balance on any cards. Why would someone stesl my info to get an AT &T phone? Falls under the categoty of tracable.

  24. mothy67 says:

    I sm cleaning out my attic. Have loads of vinyl 45’s with funny yellow things that look like Keith Herring works that I had to use to play on the stereo.
    There is no isle of greece. No such place. I moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo and showed em what I got.
    Good lord I think western civilization died the moment this song was released
    AWFUL song

    http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=SZgIk2b68gQ

    • mothy67 says:

      I take it back. I get a royal charge out of this song she actually sings subtle whoring. The words subtle whoring passed her lips in song. I guess lots of prople can be offended but fuck em the song is so over the top. Subtle whoring. Come on that is funny.

  25. WMCB says:

    Fucking savages.

  26. The Klown says:

    I’ll be dining on a spicy homemade dish made with hamburger, onion, tomato sauce, chili powder and elbow macaroni.

  27. 49erDweet says:

    Back to Detroit for a moment……….my question for Snyder is: “Why”?
    Why save it? Seriously! Why? Let it rot! The votes of the council prove they’ve learned nothing. Let………it……….GO! Build new interstates around it and let it GO! It is no longer important. Move on! Darwin, anyone?

  28. mothy67 says:

    This is funny in 1985 Amy Grant was a joke. 1992 she put out a couple of songs that went top ren.
    Took my brat out and we were waiting for a ride. Baby Baby came on the outside music system of course we danced and sang along. Heart in Motion is a huge hit in the gay dance clubs. Amy pupGrant????
    GAY SHMAY it is a catchy tune that everyone can dance tovand sing along Perfect grandparent song
    No one tells me who I like . I enjoy Carrie Underwood and Amy Grant. I would marry Dolly Parton if she would have me. Why can’t she be illegal so I could manipulate her for a green card.
    ANYWHO I have a serious case of cornball. LOVE the Carpenters and Terry Jacks. Every heartbeat by Amy Grant makes me want to dance

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kcYIZ-cduvM

  29. mothy67 says:

    WMCB
    Have to tell you we share an admiratipn for a kick ass seventies band
    .
    I have been asked to not be specific but you betcha if we were stuck in Anchotage in the rain my friend bob would provide an umbrellw.

  30. mothy67 says:

    Good lotd I now hate everyone who has ever breathed. I wanted to make fun of this stupid song but it is really sad.

  31. mothy67 says:

    This makes no sense

    meang go est under ghis song

    I did not type that but that was what was sent.

    M

  32. mothy67 says:

    I am intrigued by music choices. I love Zep but I am not supposed to that is for the boys who took daddy’s keys for the el camino after he beat his mothetr We are going to get stupid drunk and beat people up. I love ZEPPELIN THe Ocean, Moby Dick wow

  33. 1539days says:

    That article is really silly because Kohn doesn’t actually say that Democrats are more fiscally responsible or that Detroit has a plan of action. Yet again, Detroit’s problem is that it spends too much money and the solution is to spend more money, this time at the state level.

    Detroit used to be a big, important city and the past is apparently so important that the state of Michigan has to bankroll a financial bailout whose only goal is to keep it limping along for a few more years. What the governor has done is said that if Detroit wants state funds, it must follow state rules. If the people of Detroit want their mayor and city council to be in charge, then Detroit needs to only spend what it takes in.

    Ironically, the Obama administration does the same thing. They don’t give money to states and tell them to distribute it as they see fit. No, they tell those states they must remove work requirements from public assistance and increase their Medicaid rolls beyond their ability to pay. Free money isn’t free.

  34. threewickets says:

    Detroit workers couldn’t compete with the world. So now US investors have also begun hiring overseas workers as well as investing in the American South. Now China is investing in cheaper workers in South Asia and West Africa. It won’t stop till standards of living normalize at some average level across the entire world…..for laborers at least. Or something else happens.

  35. mothy67 says:

    Jennifer Nettles of Sugarland covering Madonna’s Like a Prayer

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=TiJrJmh9jCA

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