Amanda Marcotte is so Cray


This post is so bad it has three different titles:

The Tyranny of the Home-Cooked Family Dinner

Let’s Stop Idealizing the Home-Cooked Family Dinner

Home-Cooked Family Dinners: A Major Burden for Working Mothers

I guess they couldn’t make up their minds. Here’s the post:

The home-cooked meal has long been romanticized, from ’50s-era sitcoms to the work of star food writer Michael Pollan, who once wrote, “far from oppressing them, the work of cooking approached in the proper spirit offered a kind of fulfillment and deserved an intelligent woman’s attention.” In recent years, the home-cooked meal has increasingly been offered up as the solution to our country’s burgeoning nutrition-related health problems of heart disease and diabetes. But while home-cooked meals are typically healthier than restaurant food, sociologists Sarah Bowen, Sinikka Elliott, and Joslyn Brenton from North Carolina State University argue that the stress that cooking puts on people, particularly women, may not be worth the trade-off.

The researchers interviewed 150 mothers from all walks of life and spent 250 hours observing 12 families in-depth, and they found “that time pressures, tradeoffs to save money, and the burden of pleasing others make it difficult for mothers to enact the idealized vision of home-cooked meals advocated by foodies and public health officials.” The mothers they interviewed had largely internalized the social message that “home-cooked meals have become the hallmark of good mothering, stable families, and the ideal of the healthy, productive citizen,” but found that as much as they wanted to achieve that ideal, they didn’t have the time or money to get there. Low-income mothers often have erratic work schedules, making it impossible to have set meal times. Even for middle-class working mothers who are able to be home by 6 p.m., trying to cook a meal while children are demanding attention and other chores need doing becomes overwhelming.

Money is also a problem. Low-income women often don’t have the money for fresh produce and, in many cases, can’t afford to pay for even a basic kitchen setup. One low-income mother interviewed “was living with her daughter and two grandchildren in a cockroach- and flea-infested hotel room with two double beds,” and was left to prepare “all of their food in a small microwave, rinsing their utensils in the bathroom sink.” Even when people have their own homes, lack of money means their kitchens are small, pests are hard to keep at bay, and they can’t afford “basic kitchen tools like sharp knives, cutting boards, pots and pans.”

Beyond just the time and money constraints, women find that their very own families present a major obstacle to their desire to provide diverse, home-cooked meals. The women interviewed faced not just children but grown adults who are whiny, picky, and ungrateful for their efforts. “We rarely observed a meal in which at least one family member didn’t complain about the food they were served,” the researchers write. Mothers who could afford to do so often wanted to try new recipes and diverse ingredients, but they knew that it would cause their families to reject the meals. “Instead, they continued to make what was tried and true, even if they didn’t like the food themselves.” The saddest part is that picky husbands and boyfriends were just as much, if not more, of a problem than fussy children.

The researchers quote food writer Mark Bittman, who says that the goal should be “to get people to see cooking as a joy rather than a burden.” But while cooking “is at times joyful,” they argue, the main reason that people see cooking mostly as a burden is because it is a burden. It’s expensive and time-consuming and often done for a bunch of ingrates who would rather just be eating fast food anyway. If we want women—or gosh, men, too—to see cooking as fun, then these obstacles need to be fixed first. And whatever burden is left needs to be shared.

The first thing I noticed was that Amanda didn’t include any personal anecdotes. Doesn’t a 37 year old unmarried feminist with no kids have lots of experience at preparing family dinners?

Cheap shots aside, Amanda is correct. It’s not always easy to whip up a home-cooked meal for yourself and your family. These days it’s not easy to get the whole family together for a meal, period. That is not to say that a family dinner is a bad thing, but it’s not the ultimate in parenting, either. Good parenting requires lots of different qualities and skills.

I like to cook, but some days I just open a can of chili for dinner. Cooking for a family requires compromises and it’s easier to make stuff they’ll eat than to fight with them. I had three kids, and they never agreed on anything, even though we ate lots of fast food, frozen, canned, and boxed food, and I never forced them to eat stuff I hated too, like vegetables.

Cooking is a basic skill that everyone should learn. There are a lot of inexpensive, quick and simple meals that anyone can learn to prepare. You don’t need a lot of kitchen tools either.

One last point: I like how Amanda throws in the standard feminist tropes about low-income moms and men who make women unhappy. Haters gotta hate, Progs gotta prog.

Parenting fail

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164 Responses to Amanda Marcotte is so Cray

  1. The Klown says:

    If Amanda thinks men are picky, she should get a cat.

    Or twelve.

    • Lulu says:

      I don’t think she knows any. Or not very well at least. She doesn’t know how to cook. She was too depressed (look at her!) to learn how or considered it beneath her (class issue of the privileged elites). Or lazy. I am now of the opinion that Progressive-ism is really just laziness to the bone. All of their issues have a root cause of sloth.

      • Somebody says:

        Lulu you are so correct, trust me I know I deal with it all the time and quite frankly it’s just utter laziness.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Yep, look who their Dear Leader is. Obama sure sets the pace for slothism. 😉

      • WMCB says:

        It’s sloth, and also looking through at history through the lens of “No way anything or anyone who came before my precious snowflake self EVER did anything better, or even as good as us, EVER.” Anything done by people in 1950, or worse 1882, is inferior to current practice.

        That’s pretty much prog-ism in a nutshell. Thursday (and the people inhabiting Thursday) is intrinsically supierior to Wednesday just by virtue of of it being a later day. “History” is a magical force, which improves us as it marches on, period.

        It’s a version of perpetual adolescent rebellion. Adolescent rebellion is normal and healthy for adolescents. But one is supposed to eventually become an adult, and begin to make decisions based on logic/what’s best, not on shocking/rejecting mommy and daddy.

        • swanspirit says:

          Progressive-ism is also whining when you really don’t know what to do ; and are busy waiting for someone to tell you what to think

        • Lulu says:

          Oikophobia as defined “by the British conservative philosopher Roger Scruton to mean “the repudiation of inheritance and home.”] He argued that it is “a stage through which the adolescent mind normally passes”, but that it is a feature of some, typically leftist, political impulses and ideologies which espouse xenophilia (preference for alien cultures).
          “An extreme aversion to the sacred and the thwarting of the connection of the sacred to the culture of the West is described as the underlying motif of oikophobia; and not the substitution of Judeo-Christianity by another coherent system of belief. The paradox of the oikophobe seems to be that any opposition directed at the theological and cultural tradition of the West is to be encouraged even if it is “significantly more parochial, exclusivist, patriarchal, and ethnocentric.” Scruton described “a chronic form of oikophobia [which] has spread through the American universities, in the guise of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS”

          It also has a definition of a mental condition connected with “fear and loathing of housework” experienced by women who worked outside the home and who were attracted to a consumerist lifestyle.” OMG it goes in a circle. LOL.

          • Somebody says:

            Wow that’s interesting thanks for sharing that.

          • WMCB says:

            Interesting. What’s funny is that I know very few people who are not essentially egalitarian, in the classic sense of “all peoples have basic equal worth as human beings before God.

            What many of us object to is carrying that “egalitarian” ideal inappropriately into cultures, gender role preferences, income, art, etc to the ridiculius extreme – to the point where ZERO value judgements can be made, EVER, or differences celebrated.

            It is not hate to have a preference for my culture. It is not hate to say that classic western civilization, going back to the greeks and romans, brought a shit ton of good and beauty to the world. Nor is it hate to undrestand that men and women have (in general, not necessarily individuals) different gifts, strengths, and weaknesses.

            What the progs seem to think is that if you forcibly eradicate all differences between peoples, genders, etc, you will have a beautiful rainbow. Any student of painting can tell you that that’s not what you end up with – what you end up with is boring grey-brown. Differentiation is what makes the human race interesting and beautiful, not homogeneity.

          • The Klown says:

            Leftists value all cultures except their own.

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    • Constance says:

      Maybe a dog would keep her happy. They pretty much eat anything.

    • 49erDweet says:

      I’m thinking Amanda just might bring out male pickiness, ya know? There’s a lot there not to be satisfied with.

  2. The Klown says:
  3. threewickets says:

    She helped scare up some votes for prog fratboys during the GObama years. Not much credibility left. She hurts the women’s movement, imho.

    • Lulu says:

      “the main reason that people see cooking mostly as a burden is because it is a burden. It’s expensive and time-consuming and often done for a bunch of ingrates who would rather just be eating fast food anyway.” That is a lie. No one would rather eat fast food than a well prepared home meal. Little kids who want fast food usually are not even hungry and want to get out of the house. People eat fast food because it is cheaper than a decent home meal.

      Cooking is not a burden. It takes thought, practice and getting off your ass. Is she advocating for someone doing this for everyone? So Progs can spread the horrible school lunch program to adults too and control every damn thing. Appeal to inherent laziness in the proggies to tell them they don’t have to hit a lick at a snake except go vote. Utopian cafeterias with no choice and you just shove what they choose for you into your gob and don’t have to think or exert yourself. Then they can starve the unneeded population. It sounds like kvetch talk to get the dummies into a concentration camp.

      • Somebody says:

        Soylent green

      • Somebody says:

        BTW Lulu there are actually people that prefer fast food or quickie meals you pop in the microwave. It’s a matter of how they were raised. My daughter’s ex-fiancee was like that he much preferred fast food or frozen stouffers. He would gag on fresh scrambled eggs but eat McDonalds scrambled eggs like there was no tomorrow. My son’s significant other is the same way, she prefers processed food to fresh.

        The ex-fiancee was raised by a drunken, lazy mom. My son’s girlfriend had a working mom that resented being expected to cook and work so they either ate out or had tv dinner type meals.

        Both of them actually prefer fast food or processed food to anything fresh. Their taste buds want and expect the preservatives and if food doesn’t have that they don’t like it. For instance both have told me stouffers lasagna is the best tasting lasagna……um no. They’d prefer to drive up the road and get breakfast because fresh eggs don’t taste the same.

        • Lulu says:

          I know that applies to some. My daughter’s boyfriend was raised by upper middle class parents who didn’t cook, ate every meal out or had takeout. But. BUT he is crazy about anything she cooks. He told me recently how wonderful she is because she essentially takes care of herself and feeds him with her experimental, “learning how to cook well” practice meals. I know some of it is infatuation with her but he really likes to eat especially Cajun food. When his parents came to visit from the upper Midwest (he is a graduate student at UT in some obscure engineering stuff) he took them to her apartment and she gave them coffee and coconut cake. She said his dad stuffed his face, looked happy and smiled at her the entire time.

        • Jadzia says:

          My kids have parents who DO cook and STILL they cry when they see vegetables. I just pray it won’t still be this way when they are adults.

      • Constance says:

        Cooking….another job for illegals since it’s a job that apparently Americans won’t do.

  4. HELENK3 says:

    who knew how oppressed I was when I was working shift work and cooking every day for 4 kids and a husband. Wow and all the women that I worked with were doing the same thing. We had the silly idea that having a family dinner was a way to spend some time with the kids and learn about what was going on in their lives. even if I was not there . my husband was. also fast food for a family of 4 kids and a husband was a little expensive. Walking to Mc Donald’s once in a while was considered a treat not dinner. Getting a pizza on a Friday night while watching a movie on tv was never considered dinner it was also a treat.

  5. votermom says:

    This is why we need illegal immigrants to cook for us!

  6. votermom says:

    If we want women—or gosh, men, too—to see cooking as fun, then these obstacles need to be fixed first. And whatever burden is left needs to be shared.

    Love that passive voice “need to be fixed” – by whom? By Big Nanny Government who is the real mother to us all, no doubt.
    Any culture, any time in history & pre-history, throughout human existence, one thing human mothers do is feed their kids. Good luck trying to destroy that insinct too, Amanda.

    • Somebody says:

      It may be easier than you think not all human mothers have that instinct. Clearly you haven’t been around many of the younger generation now having kids.

      • votermom says:

        Dems have created a feral generation of morlocks.

        • The Klown says:

          Once upon a time they taught cooking in schools, but that was sexist so . . .

          • The Klown says:

            When I take over I will make the basics of cooking a required hs class.

          • 49erDweet says:

            AIRC back in Hemet ’49 the non-academic (not college bound) senior boys homeroom class was a survival class that included a popular basic cooking segment. So popular some academics took it, too.

          • Lulu says:

            Basic cooking and personal finance should be required. They used to teach this before they paroled inmates in prison units in Texas. A lot of inmates didn’t even know how to open a can of beans or how to count money.

      • 49erDweet says:

        I think those kinds of moms have always been there, Somebody. In my LA neighborhood back before WWII we had a couple of families whose kids ate more meals at neighbors than at home. Their own moms were too busy listening to soap operas on the radio to ‘worry’ about meals. 🙂

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Meanwhile, DWS opens her mouth ….

    The Florida congresswoman said: “Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. I know that is direct. But that is reality.”

    Wasserman Schultz added: “What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.”

  8. Somebody says:

    Speaking of the millennials what is it with their generation and laziness? I know it’s not all of them, but as a whole the majority of the ones I know are lazy. They seem to have no concept of anything domestic, whether that is picking up after themselves or preparing a meal.

    Many of the women in their generation flatly refuse to do anything domestic and that attitude is some kind of perverse badge of honor or something for them. When did feminism become not taking care of your own basic needs? How is it empowering to be a fucking slob and not even pick up after yourself, let alone anyone else? The fact that you’re too lazy to throw away trash isn’t a sign of empowerment it’s a sign that you’re lazy and worthless.

    • votermom says:

      I am pretty lazy, I admit it. But unlike the progs I don’t try to justify it as some kind of fight for social justice. I accept that it is one of my character flaws and try to improve my work habits.

      • Jadzia says:

        Purchasing the AntiSocial and Freedom programs helped me out on that front. No lie. I was just allowed back on the Internet 15 minutes ago–a little window of sloth before school pickup.

    • Lulu says:

      Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I think a lot of it is selfishness, self absorption, and entitlement. They distract themselves with stupid stuff and don’t deal with daily and personal issues. Some think it is cute or something to be a hog. It isn’t.

      • Somebody says:

        Yep, yep, yep…..self centered for sure and can’t stay away from the shiny objects, narcissistic too many of them. Yes many of them think it’s quite cute or imagine themselves so fucking unique they deserve a reality show.

        If you can’t put down the video game controllers to feed and diaper your kids you have serious mental problems as far as I’m concerned, it’s not funny, it’s not cute. If you stay up all night to get to the next level of some game and then fuck off your responsibilities you have mental issues. Grow the fuck up and btw the world does not revolve around you. You’re not a special snowflake no matter what your parents told you……and life isn’t fucking fair get used to it……life isn’t always exciting and most people don’t have trust funds and servants. Most people grow up and become responsible, that’s real life. TV, even supposed reality TV is NOT real life.

  9. HELENK3 says:

    it is funny how people see things in different ways. I had a neighbor tell me how lucky I was that I worked 2nd shift. as she worked daylight and had to come home and cook and get her kids to bed. now the little one was in bed by 7:30 or 8pm.I am looking at her like she is nuts. I had two preschoolers home all day. cooked dinner then went to work. the eye of the beholder I guess

  10. Miranda says:

    She used to be a big cooking advocate. She belonged to a CSA and posted lots of cooking techniques and recipes. It got me interested in a CSA, actually, and I learned to cook kale :). She and her commenters were very condescending towards people who didn’t like to cook (that would include me if I had posted there) She also at least used to live with a guy, but I don’t know if that’s still the case.

  11. votermom says:

    Crazy Debbie

  12. The Klown says:
    • Jadzia says:

      When I make my family dinner it’s because there are no restaurants in the neighborhood that will allow us to return for a second visit.

      (OK, not really, I do mostly like to cook. But life is also too short to spend it policing 4 kids under 10 in a restaurant. Cooking is LESS stressful than that.)

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  15. elliesmom says:

    I like to cook. It’s a stress reliever for me. My family likes to eat. It’s a symbiotic relationship. We also like to talk to each other. Dinner is a great place to eat and talk. When my kids were teenagers, they often brought their friends to our house for dinner. Some of the kids were such regulars Elliesdad asked if we needed a college fund for them, too. They came for the food, yes, but they also came for the dinner conversation. One of the girls who was there at least one night a week said it was how she kept up with what was going on in the world. Oprah did a series once on the importance of families breaking bread together. A lot of families had a hard time carving out even one night a week to eat dinner together. That part is sad.

    • Jadzia says:

      That IS sad. I also wonder about the folks who complain that it is SUCH a big imposition on Mom. Does Dad not know how to turn on the stove? I get that SOME older men (like my dad) might not have learned to cook and Mom did it all, but would that really be the case for any man under the age of 45 or so? Maybe there is a return to helplessness in the helicopter-generation kids, to which I can only say: get yourself a Gen-X husband who was a latchkey kid. He’ll know how to cook.

    • Somebody says:

      I love to cook too Elliemom and I find it a stress reliever too, except lately with my husband making constant requests. I prefer to let the mood strike me as to what I cook and I cook mostly by smell, sight and taste. I do look at recipes sometimes but I don’t really follow too many of them, at least not to the letter.

      My house functioned the same way, college fund, that’s funny! I wish I’d have thought of that! I know exactly what you mean though, one of my daughter’s friends spent more time here their junior year than at home…….like weeks at a time here, all the holidays. Mom was apparently off with a new boyfriend and couldn’t be bothered.

      My son has major issues with dinner at his house. He was raised with a home cooked meal, we sat down at the table to break bread and we had conversation. His SO was raised with tv dinners and they all sat in front of the tv and zoned out. She thinks eating at a table is weird and he thinks sitting in the family room is bizarre. She goes out of her way to ensure they can’t eat at the kitchen or dining room tables. She stacks all kinds of crap on the tables. He clears them and dines there with the children, but she refuses and throws a hissy fit. If he clears the tables, then while he is at work the next day she puts even more crap on top of the tables. Several times she’s emptied the bookcases and drawers of clothes in order to sufficiently clutter the tables……….now THAT is bizarre! BTW she won’t lift a finger to clean, but pull stuff out and throw it everywhere like a two year old…….she has the energy for that somehow.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Those poor people “striking for $15/hr” are going to be out of jobs soon if it passes. Not only automation can replace them, but if were hiring burger flippers at that wage, I’d damn sure want them to have a culinary arts degree. 😀

    • elliesmom says:

      Our local McDonald’s is corporate-owned as opposed to being franchised. We get to sample a lot of things that never make the menu at most McDonald’s. We’ve had kiosks inside the store for over a year. They just built a roof over the drive-through so I think they might be getting ready to put them out there, too.The kiosk accepts cash, credit or debit cards. It gives you your receipt with what you ordered on it. It has pictures as well as words on its menu. No literacy or language barriers. There’s an employee available to help you at the kiosk if you need it, but he or she also wipes up tables and sweeps the floor. I don’t know how many employees the two kiosk stations have replaced, but it has to be several given how many shifts the store is open. The only counter staff there is hands out bags or trays of food. Except on the drive-thru where the staff has to know how to take an order and make change. But like I said, I think their days are numbered, too.

      • votermom says:

        I’m tempted to go to a McD’s today just to annoy the strikers.

      • Jadzia says:

        We can order from McDonald’s over the Internet. I don’t like it, though, because you still have to interact with a real person when you get to the store. The only person who has EVER been snotty to me about my sad attempts to learn the language is a worker at that McDo’s. So I go and use the kiosks instead.

        Wow, I am kind of pathetic.

        • votermom says:

          What is it with the French who have baguettes stuck up their derrieres about people who don’t speak perfect french?

          • Jadzia says:

            Yeah, but she was the ONE person I’ve encountered in the three years I’ve been here. Most people can see that I’m trying, and are really really nice about it. Or they try to speak English (which is always a disaster). Or they just keep going and hope I catch up eventually.

      • DeniseVB says:

        If that’s all I have to do for $15/hr I may apply for the Kiosk Helper/floor and table mopper position. My resume would trump any 16 year old’s 😉 Ben Carson’s book mentions his first jobs at min wage and how they were stepping stones to brain surgery.

        Some overseas places already have your order come out from the kitchen area on conveyor belt, voila, no more counter staff required. Got yer order wrong? Go bug the Kiosk helper person, make them earn that 15 bucks.

      • votermom says:

        • I have to say that I find McDonald’s and most fast food places terribly expensive with no nutritional value at all. Every time I’ve gone there I regret it. I had a burger from Burger King once and got food poisoning within an hour after eating it. That illness lasted for months and I haven’t been able to eat a burger since. I always think what I could make or buy myself with the money charged for a deluxe meal. I could cook and have leftovers.

          • Somebody says:

            I’m not a fast food person either. I do like the chicken fingers at Zaxby’s, but I prefer to make my own sides to go with them. On a trip we stopped at a place called Backyard Burger, they actually had pretty good burgers but they’re only in a limited area. When my daughter was in Tuscaloosa there was a Backyard Burger in Birmingham so sometimes when we were up that way we’d stop in there. It was a real treat for my youngest because she’s never really had much exposure to fast food. If we eat out it’s usually at a sit down, order off the menu type place.

          • Jadzia says:

            I sure miss Zankou’s chicken from LA. And Cafe YUMM! from Oregon. And Dick’s from Seattle. And a good Chicago hot dog.

          • 49erDweet says:

            That’s an overgeneralization. ROFLOL because was reading this while in the drive thru lane at In N Out. Can’t replicate for the money their “Double Double w/cheeze, hold the onion, ketchup and mustard instead of the sauce”, and their ingredients are 12 hours fresher than market bought with no added anything. Informed consumerism, anyone?

    • DandyTIger says:

      Automation vs. unskilled labor is a simple issue. The cost of having your gutters cleaned every year by someone vs. spending money on gutter covers or robot cleaners or other methods. When the automated choice is cheaper, that’s the choice you make.

      I assume the next thing unions/progs will want is big daddy government to make it illegal or cost prohibited to automate. Those union joining fees and dues for the rapid turnover field of fast food has the progs dizzy with greed. Don’t underestimate the lengths they’ll go.

  17. Ann says:

    To me the idea of sitting down at the kitchen table together for a meal is more about communication, than nutrition. A captive audience and all that. How many of you had parents (or were the parent) that wouldn’t allow anyone to answer the telephone during dinner? No electronics at the table!

    Family communication is a very good thing. And if it only happens for 30 minutes per day around the dinner table… well that is 30 minutes per day it might not happen otherwise.

    • Lulu says:

      My father answered the phone during dinner. “We’re eating.” Clunk. No hello. No goodbye. And we were “questioned” during dinner about school. We felt like employees sometimes. Then we could ask him stuff like permission to go somewhere or advance of allowance which usually resulted in “Here’s a quarter.” It sounds awful but he was very generous and protective of us. And very deadpan delivery funny.

    • Somebody says:

      Those were the rules in my house, both growing up and as a parent myself. No answering the phone, no TV, dinner time is family time.

      Growing up we sometimes would get the inquisition most likely from my mother, mom was and still is a pot stirrer. My dad preferred to talk about politics, foreign policy, the war, happenings around town, cars, gardening, hobbies, etc. However, mom would often drill us down and force my father to get involved……think good cop, bad cop.

      I preferred not to drill my kids during dinner, we generally talked about whatever interested them…….or if I started the conversation it no doubt worked it’s way around to politics, LOL!

  18. piper says:

    Cooking is a lot of fun. It’s the clean-up that I dislike. The dogs did a good job scrapping the dishes but couldn’t load them into the dishwasher or wipe the counters. Ah, Amanda, the joys of small dogs.

    • Ann says:

      Hubby does most of the cooking in our house, and I clean up afterward. I swear that mans sees it as a challenge to use every available pot, bowl and utensil in the house!

      Since I do all the baking, I expect him to clean up after me. But noooooo. On the other hand, I work clean, so there is seldom much to clean up when I finish as I am one of those that puts away the ingredients immediately after use, and I load the dishwasher as I go.

      • Somebody says:

        I cook and usually my husband cleans up. When he was working shift work he was only home a couple of nights a week so he didn’t do the dishes very often. The one saving grace of his constant food requests since he retired is the fact that he’s the one cleaning up usually.

        Last night he wanted basically a Thanksgiving meal, except a turkey breast instead of a whole turkey…..but all the trimmings. OK if that’s what you want. We have the grandkids, the new baby was born early this morning. So last night after dinner he said I’ll bathe the kids you clean up the kitchen……damn. I didn’t want to bend over the garden tub and bathe the little ones either.

        • votermom says:

          Congrats on the new grandbaby!!!!!

        • HELENK3 says:

          a new baby to spoil and teach and enjoy. how great very glad for your family

        • Constance says:

          Congratulations! I’m very jealous of grandchildren. My kids are slackers in that department.

          • Somebody says:

            Thanks I’m ready for my eldest daughter to find a mate and have some children. She’ll make a really good mom, she is so good with children. Unfortunately unless a man runs over her or something she’ll never give him the time of day…..climbing the ladder, career, that’s her focus. She has a neighbor that’s been trying to chat with her and ask her out and she avoids him at every turn. She doesn’t have time for a relationship right now……blah, blah……well sugar not to be rude but you’re 28, just saying.

            I can’t believe one jerk could break her heart so badly that she’s afraid of another relationship and trust me he was a complete jerk. We hated to see her hurt, but we were actually relieved when he broke off their engagement. He used her and had absolutely no respect for her, but for whatever reason she loved him.

          • elliesmom says:

            My daughter’s first love died, and I had pretty much given up that she would recover. Then one of the ladies at work was tired of being the only married lady so she threw a party and invited all of her single friends and all of her husband’s single friends to her house for a cookout. No explicit matchmaking, just in the hopes someone would click with someone. She asked my daughter to come “help with the party”. The phone rang two minutes after my daughter got home. It was one of the young men just checking to make sure she got home OK. They were engaged by Thanksgiving and married early the next fall. Two grandkids later everything is still going fine. No matter how hard your daughter tries to avoid a relationship with her neighbor, he might just win her over.

        • leslie says:

          A new little one!!! I’m so happy for you. our littlest one is now 6 months old and smiling and happy and healthy. These tine tots bring so much joy with them. Congratulations to your family.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Obviously the need exists for a breed of dog with flexible thumbs. Maybe a “monkeydoodle”?

  19. votermom says:

    So this happened:
    Kid: Hey mom, aren’t you votermom on wordpress?
    Me: Yah.
    Kid: I think my teacher mentioned you.
    Me: … um … just act cool and pretend you don’t recognize it!!!!

    • Somebody says:

      In a good way or a bad way?

      I was involve in a lot of community stuff when my kids were younger……thank goodness there was no social media. Several times though, I was taken out of context in newspaper articles, usually as a form of retribution for not giving a reporter the information they wanted. A headline once ridiculed me and said I saw Bambi walking down the road…..which I never said. I was under a lot of stress at the time with some hot button issues and the implication was clear that I was losing it. It was tough sometimes on my kids, thankfully it didn’t happen too often……but my kids were forced to write a report about the Bambi article…..argh! BTW they wrote a report about yellow journalism and editorial license.

      • Somebody says:

        That wasn’t the assignment, but I changed it to that AND contacted the teachers.

        • Somebody says:

          Haha I remembered another one. One time I tried to ignore a reporter’s questions, act like I didn’t hear him. There was music so I started singing along with the music. The lyrics or at least part of them were quoted as my statement. The song “Nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide”, LOL! I can’t tell you how many people asked me what does that mean, LOL!

          I soooooo prefer to be nobody in nowheresville, life is much easier.

      • votermom says:

        I am not sure – I think it was some kind of comment in passing – not during class. Could be the kid just overheard or mis-heard.
        I told her to admit nuthink! LOL. I said what if the teacher’s like “hmp, minus 10 points on your grade because your mom is so annoying online!”

        I can’t believe your kids teachers did that – how embarrassing for your kids! I would have been furious.

        • Somebody says:

          You gave sage advice. Politics and school do NOT mix. Some teachers lack the maturity to separate the two, trust me I know.

    • elliesmom says:

      One of my daughter’s friends said to her, “I’m so sorry your mom disappeared from the internet.” My daughter said, “Her dog died.”

  20. piper says:

    Stole this from a commenter at Noquarter – cute cartoon

  21. The Klown says:

    The most thin-skinned administration EVER:

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  25. SHV says:

    “She also at least used to live with a guy…”
    Marc Faletti a DJ.

    I had to do a wiki on Amanda Marcotte to find out who she is. Best that I can tell is that she is 37 and has wasted her life. She has done nothing other than “blog” and certainly has not made any contribution to help women. The women who post here seem to have done more with their lives and are more interesting than the aging special snowflake Amanda. Pretty sad actually.

    • Lulu says:

      That is why she looks so “happy” and enthusiastic about life. I want to know if she presses her blouse by placing bricks on it to flatten it out. I admit to being riveted by the blouse. I can’t stop looking at it.

      • Somebody says:

        I thought it was a dress, but whatever it is, it doesn’t fit correctly.

        Ironing now that’s one chore I detest. My mother used us as slave labor to press and starch my father’s dress clothes. Hell she insisted everything be ironed, the whole family’s wardrobe. The creases in the pants had to be perfect, she had a special ham shaped thing for the shoulders, etc. I can remember ironing when I could barely reach the ironing board, piles and piles of crap to iron.

        Flash forward to being a young wife and my husband for the first decade or so as an ATC was required to wear dress pants and a dress shirt to work. Hubby’s grandfather was a tailor so he knows how to iron quite well…….so I pretended like I’d never ironed before. It became hubby’s job to do all the ironing in our house!!!

        I had him fooled for 17 years and my father blew it. We were at a family funeral out of state and my dad wanted my husband to go somewhere with him. My husband told my father he’d have a wait a little bit he wanted to go ahead and press his suit for the funeral the next day. My father told him there was no need that my mom had trained me really well how to iron and then bragged about the clean creases I could make. I was sooooo busted, my husband was not amused at all. In fact he was hurt…….you lied to me all these years……like I’d had an affair or something, sheesh. Then my father scolds me like I’m in third grade. Since then I have to iron sometimes, but hubby and I split the duties.

        • elliesmom says:

          If didn’t sew, I wouldn’t need an iron. That’s one of the benefits of marrying an engineer.If he wore pressed pants to work, they would have thought he had a job interview somewhere.

      • elliesmom says:

        The blouse is very poorly made. If she made it herself, which I sincerely doubt since sewing is such a patriarchal thing for women to do, she needs some sewing lessons. If she bought it, she was robbed.

  26. mothy67 says:

    Woman beheaded in North London
    So far they are not saying it is terrorism

    • votermom says:

      Let me guess, just domestic violence.

    • Constance says:

      That’s because it’s a woman, we have to be understanding of cultural differences you know. I am guessing Muslims were responsible.

      • votermom says:

        Religion of piece, as in bits & pieces.
        Probably some “Asian” guy.

      • Somebody says:

        Pretty safe bet Constance since Muslims seem to be the only ones into decapitation in this century. Since it’s a woman I’m sure she did something horrible like speak a man that wasn’t a family member or something.

    • Somebody says:

      I thought they put strict regulations on knives a year or so ago. I’m shocked someone that would chop off someone’s head had the nerve to violate their knife laws.

  27. Constance says:

    Family cooking is just not a big deal. I used to buy really cheap beef, chop it into 3″ chunks, dump a bottle of barbecue sauce over it in the crock pot along with an onion and a few bell peppers and serve the kids barbecue beef sandwiches for a few days with fruit salad. My husband can’t cook but he does the clean up. The kids loved it. Or buy whatever vegetables are cheap at the time slice them and lightly cook them in a little olive oil then dump them in a glass pan and dump eggs mixed with milk over them and bake for awhile. I called that Popeye pie and the kids loved it with toast. Or another family favorite, hot dog octopus…cut one end of the hot dogs into eight legs then throw them in boiling water for a few minutes so the leg ends curl up and serve over boxed mac and cheese. These are 20 minute family meals and my husband cleans the kitchen afterwards because he seems to find that peaceful.

  28. swanspirit says:

    Amanda , what? being a foodie is no longer trendy or cool ;or maybe eating is out of favor since Obama looks like a walking skeleton ??
    Cooking meals being a burden sounds like a “first world problem ” to me .

    • Constance says:

      Being a Prog she is probably gluten free, dairy free, non GMO organic certified, vegan……… and that is what’s making it hard. Cooking when normal ingredients are “bad” is really difficult.

    • Miranda says:

      That’s why this article is so funny coming from her. She was a HUGE foodie, with her balcony herb garden and only eating what was in season. It was all so easy, so simple, and if you didn’t do it, you were just too lazy/stupid to live.
      I come from a long line of cooking-haters. My grandmother was pulled out of school at 13 to cook for the farm workers after her mother had a stroke and hated cooking forever after that. I’m a proud tradition-carrier 🙂

      • Constance says:

        Still families like simple foods and usually don’t like a lot of variation. I don’t like cooking complex meals like Thanksgiving for 15 and cooking several meals a day for farm hands is a lot of work, but putting family dinner on the table is a cinch.

  29. HELENK3 says:

    it does not need health care and does not take breaks

  30. votermom says:

    Oh dear, now ABC is mocking the Once et al.

  31. gumsnapper says:

    Geez, I went over to comment on E.J. Dionne’s latest article at WaPo and saw that four or five of the same obots have been posting literally for hours–juvenile posts filled with invective and substance free. Just bashing Repubs and dredging up Bush. Obviously, they’re not in school nor do they have jobs or daily chores (unless they’re being paid by Media Matters.) I think they’re spamming basically to disrupt discussion. It’s hard to even post or read the posts because of their fast and frequent comments.

    • threewickets says:

      Yup, Obot trolls are out again. Nothing like the armies of the past, but they’re trying to save the midterms. Their tactics at this point alienate far more than they persuade.

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  35. John Denney says:

    We cook from scratch in our household, and have dinner together most evenings. Dinners out are a treat, and then we attempt to duplicate at home any favorites at a restaurant.
    “Cooks Illustrated” is one of my favorite magazines. “Chopped” is one of our favorite TV shows. Sometimes I get home from work and my wife has had a rough day and says there’s nothing in the house for dinner, so I scrounge in the ‘fridge and pantry and have my own personal episode of “Chopped”, creating a great meal from odd combinations of ingredients in less than an hour.
    Our 19 year old son has always enjoyed our cooking and has quite the sophisticated palate. Sends photos of his dinner plate to his friends to troll them. 🙂
    Yeah, we’re different.

  36. DeniseVB says:

    Bob McDonnell found guilty on 11 counts of corruption. Geesh, the news all came at once, we’re going to need a bigger thread 😀 R.I.P. Joan Rivers 😦

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