Falling Down

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Where does civilization come from? More importantly right now, where does it go when it ends?

Roger Cohen at the NYT:

The Great Unraveling

It was the time of unraveling. Long afterward, in the ruins, people asked: How could it happen?

[…]

It was a time of weakness. The most powerful nation on earth was tired of far-flung wars, its will and treasury depleted by absence of victory. An ungrateful world could damn well police itself. The nation had bridges to build and education systems to fix. Civil wars between Arabs could fester. Enemies might even kill other enemies, a low-cost gain. Middle Eastern borders could fade; they were artificial colonial lines on a map. Shiite could battle Sunni, and Sunni Shiite, there was no stopping them. Like Europe’s decades-long religious wars, these wars had to run their course. The nation’s leader mockingly derided his own “wan, diffident, professorial” approach to the world, implying he was none of these things, even if he gave that appearance. He set objectives for which he had no plan. He made commitments he did not keep. In the way of the world these things were noticed. Enemies probed. Allies were neglected, until they were needed to face the decapitators who talked of a Caliphate and called themselves a state. Words like “strength” and “resolve” returned to the leader’s vocabulary. But the world was already adrift, unmoored by the retreat of its ordering power. The rule book had been ripped up.

[…]

It was a time of disorientation. Nobody connected the dots or read Kipling on life’s few certainties: “The Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire / And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire.”

Until it was too late and people could see the Great Unraveling for what it was and what it had wrought.


Is America weak? We have a weak “leader” in the White House, but is our president the source of our strength? Are we really any weaker than we were ten years ago, or fifty years ago, or seventy-five years ago?

Basically every habitable spot on the surface of this planet has been occupied by somebody since the last Ice Age ended. Why is this planet only partially civilized, and what is the difference between the civilized people and the savages?

Is the decline and fall of American civilization inevitable and irreversible or are our greatest days still ahead? Does it make a difference which one we believe to be true?

What I actually think we are seeing are the death throes of progressivism and socialism. What is sometimes referred to as the “blue-model fail.” As an economic system it is unsustainable. As a religion/ideology it is a cancer on the body politic.

Ed Driscoll:

Fair enough, but consider the source — over the past 12 years, the New York Times, when not going on benders on the evils of golf courses and air conditioning, and publishing outright fabulism, has, more recently, published pieces calling for the end of the US Constitution, and mocking the “fervid subsets of evangelical Christianity” of its presidential candidates — only, upon further review, to discover that these extreme worldviews are Catholicism, Lutheranism and Mormonism, bedrock religions of America’s history. Its leading journalists have publicly called the citizens of the American midwest “The dance of the low-sloping foreheads” and filed William S. Burroughs-style stories of openly experimenting with drugs. And of course, in 2008, it went all-in to champion a man who was clearly not ready to be president, to the point of actively burying potentially damaging stories about him and refusing to run op-eds from his opponent.

In the 1920s, there was only one H.L. Mencken, mocking democracy and religion as outdated and the American people as the “booboosie.” In the 1960s and ’70s, there was only one Hunter Thompson, similarly calling America ”just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.”

But as James Lileks wrote, shortly before Thompson committed suicide after a lifetime of drug and alcohol abuse, Thompson was “the guy who made nihilism hip. He’s the guy who taught a generation that the only thing you should believe is this: don’t trust anyone who believes anything. He’s the patron saint of journalism, whether journalists know it or not.” A major city newspaper can’t staff itself full of wannabe Menckens and Thompsons, and then blindly wonder why a great unraveling is occurring.


Nihilism and multiculturalism are in agreement on one thing – they both disdain our morals and culture. Nihilism teaches that morals and culture have no intrinsic value. Multiculturalism teaches that all morals and cultures are of equal value. Either way, they agree that there is nothing special about our morals and culture.

Our forefathers thought that America was a special place – better than all the other countries. That was the source of ideas like “Manifest Destiny” and “American Exceptionalism.” There was a time when Americans had idealism, optimism and a belief in something greater than ourselves.

Maybe it’s time to return to our roots.


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157 Responses to Falling Down

  1. The Klown says:

    I am cogitating on a post about Obama’s true ideology. If it ever gets written it will be titled “What a Fool Believes”

  2. The Klown says:

    Notes from watching DWTS last night:

    – Kept expecting Alfonso Ribeiro to break out with the Carlton Dance. He’s a professionally trained dancer and should be a finalist.

    – Lolo Jones is stiffer than John Kerry. Early exit.

    – Is Lea Thompson really that old already? She still looks good and should be around for a while.

    – Sadie Robertson is cute as a button but I don’t think she has enough talent and experience to make it past the middle rounds.

    – Tommy Chong stole the show and was a crowd favorite. He won’t be the first to go but he will be another early exit.

    – Did Julianne Hough get a boob job or was that just a push-up bra?

    • The Klown says:

      Seriously, Lolo may be the worst dancer of any athlete to ever compete on DWTS

      • Somebody says:

        I agree with you on all points. I thought JH’s boobs were going to fall out last night, good grief. I’m not thrilled about her being a judge. Clearly the format works best with 3 judges because they kept running out of time last night. I know JH has been a guest judge several times, but she’s had such a personal relationship with so many on the show I question her abilitiy to judge fairly. I’m not just talking about her brother, in fact that’s the least of it. She made rude, snarky comments to Mark and to Maks as a guest judge.

        Lolo needs to gogo, wow she was really bad. Did you see some of the cut aways and the faces she was making during other dances or while others were being judged? She’s a bad dancer and she seems to have a bad attitude to boot.

  3. The Klown says:

    Blow-up sex dolls are better looking than that freak.

  4. Lulu says:

    The “unraveling” is that of elites. Their self confidence which has been based upon delusions is past unraveling. Regular people are not unraveling. Regular people have been burdened, shamed, exploited, conned, and abused by elites. Elites are not “elite” anymore. This used to require education, brains, standards, morals, etc. They now have the “trashiest’ behavior, the least common sense, and I think a lot of mental illness. Obama, a useless cipher, is the symbol of their power. He was supposed to be the epitome of elite meritocracy. And he is. So are the rest of them. It is sinking in that no one is going to follow them anymore. They don’t know what the hell they are doing. Influence, respect, leading, and governing requires consent and they have lost it. Now they don’t know what to do. This column is a post-mortem as it has already happened and elites are trying to figure out why.

  5. HELENK3 says:

    http://americanthinker.com/2014/09/the_primal_scream_of_the_tribal_mind.html

    is it our world that is ending or is the tribal world of the ME?

  6. The Klown says:
  7. HELENK3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/199789-dem-rep-ann-kirkpatrick-flies-only-mexicos-flag-during-arizona-parade/

    in the you can not make this up dept
    nothing like running for office in the US while flying the Mexican flag

    • Lulu says:

      When you believe that everyone that has different ideas from you is inferior it is just one step from the ideology of subhumans deserving death. This came to me in a “light bulb” moment when reading Progressive writers wishing my death during the Texas wildfires a few years ago. Not only was this openly espoused, Texas as subhuman territory, it was cheered and thought funny in the United States.

      • The Klown says:

        Leftists are always just a few more dead bodies away from utopia.

        • Lulu says:

          That is what is so interesting watching Obama’s coalition fall apart. They were carefully cultivated then convinced that they were special and integral and part of the new elites (or as their domesticated livestock). They aren’t. They’re collateral damage or cannon fodder. All of the minorities, women, fresh faced idealist college kids are just like Wellington’s “scum of the earth” to be used, abused, and discarded. I think they are going to try to do that to Obama too now as his usefulness is gone. He is “imperfect” thus was a mistake.

        • swanspirit says:

          You REALLY should tweet that ! ( i am stealing it )

  8. The Klown says:
    • leslie says:

      I just LOL’d faved your tweet. It sounds like my daughter and me. When she was a very small child, she would cry and cry in the morning, while I was up and about and cheerful and singing. She literally hated me. I’m grateful that changed. But I had to wait until she was 17 for that to happen. 😀

      • lyn says:

        Sweet story! 🙂

      • Constance says:

        My poor little son was not a morning person his first few years. He would wake up around 6 am because he was hungry and his diaper was beyond wet and I would change him and put him in his high chair facing the window with a banana. He just stared outside and ate really slowly and laid his head on the tray. But if anyone talked to him or made noise he came unglued. I always felt like he needed coffee in a sippy cup but it seemed wrong to give a 18 month old coffee.

  9. The Klown says:
  10. The Klown says:
    • leslie says:

      OK, you did it. You sent me to Salon. And I actually went there. I wonder what Mr. Peterson would say if he rode the el trains in Chicago and then the Metra trains out of the city. I see Black, Hispanic and White children all behaving as if they’d never heard the word, “No”. All of them – with parents in tow on the trains. The buses are another story entirely. There the Black kids – by this time without parents around – are swearing and using language that the Black grandmothers, aunties, and mothers completely recoil from. They also “call out of their names” those women who are on their way to their jobs, or their doctors, or the stores to buy food for their families.
      Salon will be after me I’m certain, calling me a racist. But what they don’t know is that unlike the writers at Salon, I actually work with and ride with and listen to those Black women who are frightened and intimidated and provoked to high anxiety and now refuse to ride public transit. I wonder what those teens are going to say when there is no food on the table and no older women to continue to care for them because they’re too scared to leave the house.

  11. The Klown says:

    Apparently Obama has declared war on Ebola. He’s sending 3000 troops to west Africa to fight it.

    Does he realize that Ebola is not a country?

    • Lulu says:

      It is a “pivot” from bad news which is his habit. Also known as changing the subject when losing the argument.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Why didn’t he send those troops in to save those kidnapped Nigerian girls ? I’d prefer he use his hashtag diplomacy for ebola too.

    • votermom says:

      Are you serious? Is he at least outfitting them in hazmat suits?

    • Somebody says:

      WTF 3000? What are they supposed to do? I mean besides become ebola victims or carriers.

      • Lulu says:

        I’m thinking they will need two years of training and then he is essentially out of office. It is a “pivot” and not meant to happen just like his ISIS strategy and improving the economy. This is the full on “blah blah” stage of his presidency.

      • DeniseVB says:

        First thought too, the guys who build things like hospitals and barracks are usually Seabees, and we have a whole bunch of them stationed here (Norfolk area). What could go wrong?

        A lot of Dems banging this drum, maybe we should send a delegation of them over there too 😀

    • leslie says:

      Short answer…NO. Nor does he know that the language of Austria is not Austrian and it is not the Marine corpse. Obama is stupid and lazy and only thinks about how wonderfully intelligent and caring he will appear if he does a,b,or c.

      • DeniseVB says:

        BO’s an idiot for thinking this will stabilize the region. We’ve got to follow the money…..he could care less about our country much less look compassionate for any other.

  12. driguana says:

    This is a really great post, Klown! After I read the Cohen article yesterday and posted it here in the late afternoon, I thought about all evening. We are clearly going through what I call a “regrouping”. Trouble is, what are we regrouping into….more groups or fewer groups? One Big World or Back to Tribalism? Much of it has to do, for me, with a term I’ve used here before, “cultural amnesia”…..we really have no idea who we are or where we came from. And, yet, there are clues and messages everywhere…the Great Pyramid (you really think it was just a “tomb”?), Stonehenge, Macchu Picchu, Nan Madol, Teotihuacan…. At one time on this planet, between 10000 BC and 500 AD, the entire planet was sculpted with messages from one end to the other….
    carefully and technologically crafted…the entire planet was a message garden…and now we can’t read even read them. Someone left those messages, they are not just wandering tribes who happened to do the same thing that was done thousands of miles away. Why can’t we see an understand this? What are we waiting for? A new messiah? A new book of rules? Science? Science can only deal with what’s in front of its face…if it can’t see it, it can’t interpret it correctly…it can only hypothesize! I personally believe that both “creation” and “evolution” took place on this planet. Yet if I say I believe in “creationism”, I’m laughed at. Science has all the answers, I’m told. OK, then tell me how the non-evolutionary jump was made from homo-erectus to homo-sapiens in a time span that defies “evolution”??? Why were pyramids built everywhere from St. Louis to the South Pacific?

    As I’ve said before, I’m waiting for Michael Rennie to land his shiny spaceship in some little league ball field and for Gort to emerge and straighten everything out…Klaatu barada nikto, to you, too!!

    We need leaders!

    • Lulu says:

      Cultural destruction has been a political or control tool for thousands of years. The Romans were very good at it. So were/are the Brits. Kill a culture and it is easier to control a population for exploitation. Sometimes it doesn’t work which is what I think is going on in Scotland. It has been used in the US since Reconstruction at least which has partially worked. But at the first instance of the “destroying” or power group shows weakness it will go backward fast. Obama was not supposed to be a weak poseur but a strong shining example of the aspiring dominant “creative” left. That fall of the culture destroyers is happening now it appears in the Middle East, UK, US and even Australia and Russia. Obama is a symbol of the stupidity and weakness internationally now.

  13. driguana says:

    wow….this is a truly amazing turn of events…only one big problem with this story…Monrovia is not the epicenter of the Ebola outbreak….the Gueckedougou region of Guinea is and people in that area will hide in the deep forest and not seek help…a military presence in Liberia to contain Ebola is going to be very interesting indeed…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2757360/US-send-3-000-troops-Ebola-danger-zone-Obama-administration-shuffles-military-s-mission-Africa.html

  14. driguana says:

    whenever there’s a tragedy of some kind, the looters follow…doesn’t matter where…
    http://news.yahoo.com/dangerous-hurricane-eyes-mexico-pacific-resorts-024918623.html

    • Lulu says:

      I think it is one evolutionary step behind estate sales. They think “they’re dead so they don’t need it anymore.” It evolved from buzzards.

  15. HELENK3 says:

    btw

    DID YOU SEE MY EAGLES??????

    • Somebody says:

      I thought the gitmo detainees released were to be monitored for a year. If this is true that 3 have gone to Syria and joined ISIS, holy shit. Hopefully they’ll venture into Iraq and we can take care of them with an air strike.

    • The Klown says:

      Where do you find these sketchy sites?

      • HELENK3 says:

        this was on my facebook. sent by someone I used to work with. the lady was brave enough to let me drive to the Jersey shore when I was first learning to drive

      • HELENK3 says:

        I had never heard of the site. but that is why I said “if this is true”

    • 49erDweet says:

      Helen, raise your right hand and promise never, ever, ever again link to a site that confuses kissing with copulation. ROFL at that site.

      • Somebody says:

        Damn you 49er I had to go see what you were talking about……you put up click bait! I don’t know if that site is a satire site, but one of the stories they have is copied verbatim from a satire news site…..the one about Obama cars. So who knows where they get their stories from???

  16. votermom says:

    • Lulu says:

      Wait! Don’t tell me. The WH procrastinated so it didn’t happen? I refuse to give Slime or Newspeak clicks.

      • votermom says:

        You caught me – I didn’t click either. Just thought “Lady Al-Qaeda” was funny.

      • Somebody says:

        Nope it is US policy not to negotiate or deal with hostage takers, that’s why there was no deal. The rest of the article lays out her version or rather her family and defense team’s version. Then after you wade through how innocent she is and how evil the US is, they give you the US version, what she was accused of and what she was convicted of.

        Apparently KSM gave up her name during a waterboarding session. She was supposedly married to his nephew, although her family denies that. You’ll be happy to know that she’s a graduate of MIT, as well as other US universities….she’s a doctor. Her brother and first husband went to college here too.

        According to US officials she maintained a PO box in the US after she left which was used by Al Queda. She also purchased $10,000 worth of body armor, night goggles and military books for a hunting trip…..makes sense. She was picked up in Pakistan, she had the ingredients for a dirty bomb and a list of NYC landmarks. Her family says she was set up, forced to carry that bag under the threat that her daughter would be raped.

        She was eventually turned over to the US for questioning in Afghanistan. While there she grabbed a gun from one of our soldiers and started shooting. She was shot in the gut, we treated her and then flew her here for trial. She was convicted on several counts of attempted murder, as well as a few other charges and is in prison in Texas.

        • Lulu says:

          The public sees the hypocrisy of Bergdahl but no one else being considered for a “swap”. This administration picks and chooses to whom the rules apply and the public knows it.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I still don’t understand why Obama made it such a BFD in the Rose Garden with Bergdahl’s parents…….never to be heard from again.

          • The Klown says:

            Dumbfuck actually thought people would approve.

          • 49erDweet says:

            He has zero PR judgment, that’s why.

          • lyn says:

            Obama loves to throw shit on the White House until something sticks.

          • Somebody says:

            I can’t remember what WH offical was quoted in the article but I thought it was rich for them to claim the US doesn’t negotiate with hostage takers.

          • Lulu says:

            The WH does not want anyone coming back and talking about what a bunch of sick fucks are in ISIS. The WH thought it would just go away when they got killed. Instead they got graphic YouTubes. The families of the poor guys who were tortured then beheaded are still in there is “good” Islam phase and not understanding what exactly they were dealing with. Misinformation, propaganda, and multicultural bull will get you killed.

          • 49erDweet says:

            What Lulu said except I refute her claim any of the WH staff actually “thinks”. They “react”. “Thinking” is way above their pay grade.

  17. The Klown says:

    (His wife works for Obama)

  18. The Klown says:
  19. HELENK3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/199815-dnc-running-ads-on-black-radio-stations-attacking-racist-gop-for-opposing-obama/

    remember before backtrack when the US president supported all the citizens of this country

    • votermom says:

      “Plastic” made from shrimp casings? I wonder if it will be ok for those with shrimp allergies.

      • Lulu says:

        How do they get rid of the stink? And shrimp are very expensive. Like $16.99 a pound expensive. And seasonal so they are not available all year. Do they want to make them an “endangered” creature. Another “elite” solution because they hate petrochemicals. Why don’t we used gold for toilet paper?

        • Somebody says:

          Shrimp are already in short supply this year and last. There is a disease that comes around every so often, can’t remember the name but it’s in full bloom right now. Apparently whatever disease it is, is very prevalant in farmed shrimp. In fact a lot of the shrimpers are accusing some of the shrimp farmers of starting this outbreak by dumping their bacteria infected water into local waterways.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Actually, lots of them are too small for food but manage to get in the way during harvesting operations. Nuisances.

      • Somebody says:

        If it biodegrades within weeks how will that work with shelf life? On the surface it sounds like it could be unstable, but perhaps some ingredient has to be added to break it down once discarded? One thing if it takes off, shrimp farming will become a boom industry.

        • leslie says:

          Well, if it does take off, my little town is so goofy-rife with environmentalists and their concerns, they’ll probably set up a shrimp peel recycling center.
          If Chicago put one near Daley Center, the stink won’t be any competition with what comes out of there. Same with Springfield, IL.

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s Harvard. ‘Nuf said.

  20. The Klown says:

    DUMBEST NEWS STORY OF THE DAY:

    My favorite part is the pictures of Sarah flipping them the bird.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Was she flipping the bird or was her left hand just multi-tasking holding keys and papers?

      She still looks better than I do after a work out, if I worked out 😉

  21. The Klown says:
  22. The Klown says:

    Please excuse me, but I have to go offline for a while. I have some itty-bitty kitties that need some quality time.

    BTW – tentatively, the orange one is Tigger, the dark-gray striped one is Tiger, and I’m not sure about the light gray one yet.

  23. leslie says:

    856 days left in the Obama administration
    (unless someone retires him early – Congress what say you?)

  24. Lulu says:

    Minnesota’s Obamacare market may have just gone tits up. http://kstp.com/news/stories/s3562806.shtml ” It’s a major blow to the MNsure health insurance exchange – the insurance company with the lowest rates and the most customers signed up through MNsure will not be back in 2015.” “The decision is expected to have a major impact on health insurance customers and the governor’s race.” The reason: “the company decided continuing to offer insurance through MNsure is “not administratively and financially sustainable going forward.” ““Our MNsure individual product membership is only a small percentage of the entire PreferredOne enrollment but is taking a significant amount of our resources to support administratively,” a company statement says.” The federal subsidies are apparently a freak show. “The company also says MNsure was unable to effectively verify information submitted by enrollees, but insurance companies are still required to accept and enroll them. As a result, the company ended up with enrollees who don’t even live in Minnesota in some cases.”

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  27. HELENK3 says:

    http://rabblerouserruminations.wordpress.com/2014/09/16/talk-about-some-strong-women-open-thread/

    I thought this post was interesting enough to post here and should go viral

  28. HELENK3 says:

    http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26544267/self-driving-cars-now-need-a-permit-in-california

    just think a chauffeur that does not need any bennies like lunch breaks, or health care or days off

  29. DeniseVB says:

    I’m starting to think the Democratic Party is becoming a terrorist sympathy organization, just from today, Code Pink protesting Congress for killing killers, now this guy…… WTF are they running on for 2014 again?

    http://weaselzippers.us/199819-field-organizer-for-wv-dem-party-poses-in-keffiyeh-with-what-appears-to-be-ak47-posts-pro-terrorist-anti-israel-rants-on-social-media/

  30. Propertius says:

    That was the source of ideas like “Manifest Destiny” and “American Exceptionalism.”

    Actually, MyIQ, the phrase “American exceptionalism” was coined by Joseph Stalin:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-joseph-stalin-invented-american-exceptionalism/254534/

    The full phrase he used was “the heresy of American exceptionalism”, and it was used in reply to an American Communist leader who informed him that the American proletariat wasn’t interested in revolution.

  31. Lulu says:

    Hipsters are dickheads.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/09/will-self-awful-cult-talentless-hipster-has-taken-over
    “And in a way I suppose they’re right, because the totalising capability of dickheads + web = an assumed equivalence between all remotely creative forms of endeavour. Nowadays someone who sticks old agricultural implements on the wall of a Los Angeles motel regards himself as on a par with Michelangelo; moreover, since all their friends are dickheads, too, no one is about to disabuse them. Hell, on Planet Dickhead just turning up the trip-hop can be a work of unalloyed genius.”

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