Shots Fired In A Palace Coup?

Valerie Jarrett

Valerie Jarrett

Uh oh! Shit just got real. Politico went where no one has gone before:

Fire Valerie Jarrett
If Obama really wants to shake things up, his closest adviser should be the first to go.

Almost since the start of Barack Obama’s presidency, people who have actual, real duties in the West Wing of the White House—the working, executive part of the government, that is—have been urging him to do something about Valerie Jarrett. Push her into the East Wing, where she can hang out with Michelle Obama and the White House social secretary, or give her an ambassadorship—or something—but for Pete’s sake get her out of the way of the hard work of governing that needs to be done.

Now it’s really time to do it.


Jarrett is more than a mere senior staffer to this president, and of course she is not going to be fired outright. Not ever. If her role in this administration reflected reality, Jarrett would be called “First Big Sister” to both Michelle and Barack. And who would fire the kind of big sister who “really dedicated her entire life to the Obamas,” as New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor told me when I interviewed her about her intimate look at the first family, The Obamas? “She has thrown her entire life into their cause, and she’s made it very clear that she would happily run in front of a speeding truck for them.”

Very moving. But the fact is, on balance it appears that Jarrett has been more an obstructer than a facilitator over the past six years when it comes to governing, and it’s probably long past time for the president to move her gently into another role.

For starters, even today, nobody knows precisely what Jarrett does in the White House. What exactly do her titles—senior advisor to the president, assistant to the president in charge of the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, the Office of Public Engagement, the White House Council on Women and Girls—mean? More to the point, Jarrett has often used the aura of authority that these titles give her to stand in the way of talented White House staffers and a smoother-running administration, according to several books that have been written about the Obama presidency, among them Chuck Todd’s forthcoming The Stranger.


Her undefined role combined with what by all accounts has been almost unlimited proximity to the Obamas has proved a bad mix. She seems to isolate the president from people who might help him or teach him something—and if there’s one thing that has become clear about Obama, it’s that he doesn’t get to hear enough outside voices. (According to Alter, she once declared that the Obamas wouldn’t be making “new friends” in Washington.) Jarrett micromanages guest lists for White House events big and small, hangs out in the private quarters and often joins the Obamas for dinner, says little in meetings, but walks out whispering in the president’s ear and leaving nervous staffers in her wake, according to Alter. She vacations with the first family in Hawaii and Martha’s Vineyard. She is often the last one they speak to at night, and according to Alter, White House staffers took to calling her the “Night Stalker.” Last month, none other than Mitt Romney was quoted in a New York Times Magazine article reflecting on the well-established insularity of the Obama White House: “I won’t mention who it was, but I met with one of the nation’s top Republican leaders, and he said, ‘You know, the strange thing is that the president seems to answer to only two people—Valerie Jarrett and Michelle Obama.’”

Jarrett wields real power on personnel matters, but her choices often seem based on whom she particularly likes rather than who might be best suited for the job. She reportedly pushed the president to give a personal favorite, Eric Holder, the attorney general’s job, then propped Holder up in the face of harsh (and, to the president, very damaging) criticism over controversies ranging from Holder’s “nation of cowards” speech, which accused Americans of racism, to the “Fast and Furious” quasi-scandal involving questionable sting operations run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. (In doing so she acquired another nickname—“Eric’s appeals court.”) When Holder delivered his resignation speech earlier this year, he thanked the president, the vice president, his family and Valerie Jarrett.

She is also supposed to be the president’s liaison to business, which was “an effort that many in the West Wing believe she failed at,” writes Todd. “And yet they didn’t get why she didn’t pay a price.” Jarrett walked into the White House with some impressive looking credentials: CEO of the Habitat Company, chairman of the board of the Chicago Stock Exchange, director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. But Chicago business people who knew Jarrett have told me over the years that she was not respected for her business skills. In January 2011, when Bill Daley, the banker and former commerce secretary who had top credentials in both politics and business, was brought in to replace Emanuel as chief of staff and to improve Obama’s relations with business, Jarrett was not happy and “frequently shared her unflattering assessments with Obama,” Politico’s Glenn Thrush wrote in an ebook about the 2012 campaign. Daley lasted barely a year.

Many Wall Streeters, meanwhile, considered her “a political hack, ineffectual and entitled,” Halperin and Heilemann write. And economists who talk to her about policy are sometimes astonished at the things that come out of her mouth, reflecting very little understanding of economic solutions. Although she has no experience in foreign policy either, she regularly travels abroad with the president. “She would frequently take one of the half-dozen seats alongside the president in bilateral meetings,” Alter wrote, “which meant one less seat for a policy expert.”

Politico is no RWNJ fringe publication. They are dialed into everything from classified private meetings to the watercooler gossip inside the Beltway. They don’t do investigative journalism. This information was fed to them by someone (or someones) high up on the food chain inside of the White House. Whoever did it risks career suicide.

History and literature provide examples of advisors to kings whose influence far exceeds their official power. Grima Wormtongue is one such example. Perhaps the most apt comparison would be Rasputin.

Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin (Russian: Григорий Ефимович Распутин; IPA: [ɡrʲɪˈɡorʲɪj jɪˈfʲiməvʲɪtɕ räˈsputʲɪn]); baptized on 22 January [O.S. 10 January] 1869 – murdered on 30 December [O.S. 17 December] 1916[1]) was a Russian peasant, mystical faith healer and private adviser to the Romanovs. He became an influential figure in Saint Petersburg, especially after August 1915 when Tsar Nicolas II took command of the army at the front.

There is much uncertainty over Rasputin’s life and the degree of influence he exerted over the Tsar and his government. Accounts are often based on dubious memoirs, hearsay and legend.[note 1] While his influence and role may have been exaggerated, historians agree that his presence played a significant part in the increasing unpopularity of the Tsar and Alexandra Feodorovna his wife, and the downfall of the Russian Monarchy. Rasputin was killed as he was seen by both the left and right to be the root cause of Russia’s despair during World War I.

Old Raspy was hard to kill. They poisoned him and shot him and he still wasn’t dead. So they shot him some more and threw his body in a river.

Will ValJar go any easier?

This is how political assassinations and coups are done nowadays in Washington. Leak some damaging information and hope that it will cause a big enough stink that the target will be fired or asked to resign.

But, to paraphrase an old saying, “If you strike at the Queen you better kill her.” That’s because if you don’t kill her, she’ll kill you.

As you read this you can bet that Valjar’s flying monkeys are searching for the treasonous culprit(s) who betrayed her.

The vipers are fanging each other.


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108 Responses to Shots Fired In A Palace Coup?

  1. HELENK3 says:

    the Ulsterman had a story on this a couple of days ago. Claims it was bi-partisan thinking that valjar had to go. She is a hinders rather than helps

  2. DeniseVB says:

    For the Key and Peele fans. I love the anger interpreter guy. **NSFW**

  3. 1539days says:

    Who knows how much bad shit Jarrett is responsible for? I do know that she was the one who convinced Obama that not making any deals during the budget battle would eventually lead to his victory. Of course, that was a Pyrrhic victory because instead of weeks of bashing Republicans over obstructionism, Obamacare (the things the GOP was fighting him over) blew up in Obama’s face.

    Jarrett is the progressive agenda enforcer. Obama is a terrible negotiator so ValJar won’t let him negotiate at all. He’s also a terrible president and that has caught up with him.

  4. HELENK3 says:

    between valjar and sharpton as advisors, backtrack has really screwed this country

  5. Somebody says:

    I think keeping ValJar in the west wing is one redline Obama will actually enforce.

  6. swanspirit says:

    Does anyone else think her relationship with the Obamas is a bit more than weird and more than a little creepy ? It is almost as if she is his “other wife” . For me , the weird creeps in when she accompanies them on every vacation .
    I will be amazed if he changes her status at all . She seems more of a crutch than an adviser .

    • lyn says:

      Yes, it is creepy. I think she’s Obama’s puppeteer.

    • HELENK3 says:

      any time I hear valjar’s name I think of this

    • Anthony says:

      Here’s her bio. I used it in an article I wrote for Jonathan Cifre (Savage Politics) in 2008. Nobody thought she was much of a threat at the time, but I saw it coming.

      Here’s how she became “Obama’s Brain”:

      Jarrett stayed on through successive mayoral administrations until Richard M. Daley, who came to office in 1989, named her his deputy chief of staff. It was in this capacity that Jarrett interviewed the future First Lady, who was known as Michelle Robinson at the time. There were some similarities in their backgrounds: like Jarrett, Robinson had earned degrees from elite schools and became a corporate attorney, but was dissatisfied and stressed by her job. She also yearned for a new line of work that reflected her commitment to public service. Jarrett offered Robinson a job at City Hall, and soon forged a close friendship with her and the man Robinson would marry in 1992, Barack Obama.

      • The Klown says:

        Robinson had earned degrees from elite schools and became a corporate attorney, but was dissatisfied and stressed by her job. She also yearned for a new line of work that reflected her commitment to public service.

        Was this before or after the patient-dumping gig at Chicago City Hospital?

        • DeniseVB says:

          Patient dumping came after Obama went to the Senate, the hospital got lots of $$$$ and MO got a 6 figure job. They never refilled her position when she left for the WH.

          In related news, Sarah Palin got sued for wearing an Artic Cat logo on a winter jacket. 😛

    • 49erDweet says:

      IMO she’s in their relationship because of, not in spite of, Mooch. THAT’S where the weirdness lies. The “other wife” scenario only works when wifey supremo says it works, so………………….hmmmmmmmm.

      • Anthony says:

        The “Other Wife” scenario is to the contrary of the reality. She and MO were tight already; had been for years.

        Ultimately, when the young, strapping Michelle Robinson met Barry Soetoro, she was already in deep with ValJar. From following my leads at the time I wrote the piece, I learned that once Manzilla started getting serious with Barry, ValJar insisted on meeting him to see if he was worthy. She gave them her blessing, and serious dating commenced.

        Ultimately, it was ValJar that set Barry up as a community organizer, so he could request earmark funding for the likes of Rezko and others of that ilk. This was so she could avoid a paper trail coming to her office while she gave millions to slumlords on the South Side (I think it might have been a grudge from when she was working for either Habitat or Daley.)

        It was also her idea to get him involved in the Senate, and she shepherded him toward a goal that she could also benefit from.

        Now, she’s the fucking President……

  7. DeniseVB says:

    ValJar’s been linked to the Fast and Furious coverup after Holder lied to Congress…..

    I’m trying to think back to the days I was so angry at GWB and his crew. Obama’s so much worse than that.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Let the Xgames begin, Salon style 😉

    • 1539days says:

      Who goes to Salon for their GOP endorsements?

      • leslie says:

        Who goes to for anything ?

      • DeniseVB says:

        ….Or Vox and The Nation? Both have hit pieces up on Walker too. Pretty much with the same *clickbait* titles. 😉 They should worry about their own dang party !

        • elliesmom says:

          You can always tell who they’re afraid of, though. If they really thought Walker didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of becoming POTUS, they wouldn’t be flooding the market with stories about why he’d never win. Who are they trying to convince? Themselves. Because anybody who’d vote for Walker isn’t looking to Joan Walsh for advice. Or Ezra either. Not as much rabid writing about McConnell endorsing Rand Paul other than what was the quid pro quo. They aren’t nearly as afraid of Rand.

          • foxyladi14 says:


          • That’s their mistake, I think. But typical. They’re always looking for the boogeyman to come sneaking up. It’s part of the ethos.

          • 49erDweet says:

            Yeah, because instead of living their lives, GOP strategists are always scheming and plotting. I know that’s how I spend all my free time.

          • cynic says:

            The McConnell endorsement surprised me. I was told by a political operative that Rand is not a Republican; therefore, it’s ok for House members to attack/criticize him on radio and tv.

            My R. Congressman (who just won again in a blue state, with over 70% of the vote), was on one of the Sun. a.m. news shows again calling out, by name, Rand. Adam said that Chris Christie and Jeb Bush would be good nominees for the Republicans in 2016, but not Rand.

            The establishment Republicans will never let him be the nominee.

          • Cynic, that may have once been the case, but Rand Paul went on a campaigning spree with McConnell in KY at the end. Something like 42 stops together (I forget the exact number). That’s why he got the McConnell blessing to run right after the election.

          • WMCB says:

            You’re right, Lola. I’ve read several articles that the TP and the establishment cut a deal. With the TP having the upper hand in the negotiating. It’s why the Rand endorsement, why Cruz as well as Rand went and campaigned for several old guard GOP.

            Word is that Establishment agreed to lay off TP, accept their power base, stop the sniping. TP agreed to support Est GOP in races (not primaries), help campaign for them, and allow **some** vetting of TP candidates to avoid the trainwreck crazies (which IMO would actually be good.)

            McConnell is many things, but he is a horse-trading pol to the bone. He fought the TP until he realized they aren’t going anywhere, and without them GOP was sunk in 2014. So he shifted course and cut a deal. It’s what skilled pols do.

            IMO, this is a positive development. I don’t think it was primarily “caving” by TP, I think it was recognition by GOP that they have to assimilate/accomadate the TP or die.

          • cynic says:

            Somebody better tell this guy then! And, the political operative that I was telling you about was still demonizing the TP on facebook yesterday.

            via the Daily Beast 10/24/14
            On ABC’s This Week, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., said he was excited by the prospects of Jeb Bush, Chris Christie or Paul Ryan running. But there was one Republican he’s hoping stays out of the race.

            “The one person I don’t want to see is somebody like a Rand Paul who has put out budgets to cut the military in half,” Kinzinger said of the Kentucky senator. “I think that would be devastating for our party right now.”

            Kinzinger is correct that Paul proposed spending reductions to the Department of Defense. But his figures are off, and he’s missing some pretty important context.

            His claim rates False.

          • WMCB says:

            cynic, cutting a deal w/the leadership to back off doesn’t mean they can control everything every random Rep says. But there is a decidedly different tone now coming from GOP leadership re: Rand and Cruz and other TP pols.

          • The Klown says:

            Both parties are coalitions (the Democrats more so than the GOP) and if their factions can’t get along they lose.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Good to know they are all still following obola’s gameplan modifications as they’re posted.

    • If she said it, you can virtually guarantee he’ll win it. She’s the Martha Coakley of journalism.

  9. gram cracker says:

    John Podesta, current Counselor to the President, would be my guess as having something to do with a leak, if indeed there has been a leak. Podesta is powerful enough to be immune to any poison darts Obama’s MiniMe, ValJar, my hurl at him. And he will likely get a powerful position in Hill’s administration, if she is elected President in 2016.

    Podesta was Big Dog’s fourth and final Chief of Staff, started the Center for American Progress, was head of the Obola-Biden Transition Team. His brother, Tony, heads one of the most powerful lobbying firms in DC. Podesta is an insider’s insider.

    • gram cracker says:

      On second thought, ValJar is more like a MiniMe of Moochelle, than Obola. At any rate, ValVar is just a regional “Loop” insider who doesn’t appear to have developed powerful inside the “beltway” relationships and allies, where as Podesta has deep insider long term connections.

  10. mothy67 says:

    ValJar may be many things but she was not president. Seems this is just one more protection for obola. No one is safe from the bus.

  11. mothy67 says:

    I was reading some analysis of Nov 4. What I didn’t read was more interesting. The Republicans had thanks in large part to the Tea Party oppostion from with in. The Democrats were lock step with obola. Cruz made noise. Bill and Hill ptoved to be flaccid when they could not get CHelsea’s mother in law elected. She had written an op ed piece for the Philadelphia Inguirer championing obamacare before anyone knew what was in it. Over and over again the dims turned a deaf ear to constituents for the party. Common culture was screaming that millenials were not happy. Film after film was released and made bank about a dystopian future. Divergent, Hunger Games, The Maze Runne, The Giver all lamented government control. People are diverse. One can be pro life and not give a shit about gay marriage. Want gun control but feel welfare abuse is out of control. A voiceless candidate harping on Democratic issues is spineless. Ted Cruz and a few others dare to speak and go against the grain. The dims have become total group think. No individual thought. Spread so thin on too many issues. All the articles I read were all the same. Wedge issues become boring when you are hit over the head withbthem non stop. When you read Ezra, Matty or Joan they seem to talk down to you. I do not percieve thier ilk as smarter than me. I actually see them as drones I have yet to read a VOX article that has made me think. Everything I have read from those creeps since the election is an insult and they wonder why people are distancing themselves. I voted dim til 2008 your Alinsky powers have no effect on me. Call me a racist so what sticks and stones. I know I dislike obola because of the man not his race. How do you expect to win when all you do is ridicule people. I feel more Catholic now than ever before. Attacking my heritage does not win you fans.

  12. WMCB says:

    Exactly what we said would happen when Dodd Frank “reform” passed. It was deliberately designed to wipe out small local banks with onerous regs, give the big boys an even larger market share. It didn’t cure “too big to fail”, it made it worse. By design. But did anyone listen to me? Nooooooo.

    • cynic says:

      I turned on MSNBC last night and couldn’t believe that Barney Frank was on with Chris Hayes. Dodd/Frank is a joke. Gretchen Morgensen from the NY Times has written numerous article pertaining to the “too big to fail banks”. I always enjoy finding out what special things get tucked in to these mega bills Maxine Waters inserted the Congo Mining one in this one. Haven’t read much about the follow-up on it until now, while doing research.

      Marking the first time a court has ruled that a provision of Dodd-Frank violates the Constitution, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit held that the financial “reform” law’s bizarre rule requiring companies to disclose whether their products contain “conflict minerals” from Africa violates the First Amendment.

      As we’ve argued, the rule had zero to do with financial reform and was sneaked into the law by Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters to protect the Congo.

      The little-noticed Dodd-Frank provision, tucked away under “Misc. Provisions,” requires manufacturers to prove the metals they use in products aren’t mined by rebels in the Congo and nearby countries.

      Read More At Investor’s Business Daily:

      • 1539days says:

        Oh, I knew about this long ago. I remember our Quality Manager talking to my supervisor about conflict metals in our products. I jokingly referred to it as “blood metal.” Of course, we had none, since most metal in the US is either made here or bought from China.

        How about the provision in Obamacare that made the federal government the only provider of student loans? This is actually a revenue generator because the punishments for not paying are so severe, most adults have to pay the loans. Even worse, the feds have gotten more aggressive about student loan collection over the last few years, disallowing forbearances and make people pay up to the maximum allowed by law, 10% of their gross income.

  13. WMCB says:

    OT, but this is one of my pet peeves:

    • WMCB says:

      • The Klown says:

        It’s like a vaccine that prevents a highly contagious disease that is 50% fatal but .000000001% of the people who are vaccinated die from an allergic reaction.

        Which should you be more afraid of?

      • WMCB says:

        Yes, but even that is an ACTUAL effect (though rare) of the vaccine (as are most of the listed “likely” side effects of drugs.)

        But the “potential” side effects list relies on NOTHING other than random correlation. If you drink and get hungover while doing a drug trial, you have to report nausea and headache – even if you KNOW it’s not the drug that did it. It’s why so many drugs have “menstrual cramps” listed. Because there were women in the study, who happened to have periods while participating. It likely has zero zip, nada to do with the drug, but it still has to be reported. Any illness or symptom you have while doing a trial has to be reported – but there is no requirement to find out if the drug had jack to do with it.

  14. mothy67 says:

    Nreed to say to the Durnams and Andrew Sullivans of the world ” well I laid my head on the rairoad track waitingvon the double e Well the train don’t run by here no more poor poor pitiful me”
    Enough of your sagas. Everyone hurts. Contrary to what you were told in grade prep school you are not that interesting.
    Obviously something very wrong with mr that two of my favorite songs Are Poor Poor Pitiful Me and Led Zeps Fool in the Rain.
    Sharpton makes me ill he exists because he makes people feel like victims.
    Burn down the only place to buy groceries. Yep people will be rushing to open a store in Ferguson. Life can be unfair but we all struggle. Relishing in oppression to me seems backwards.

  15. HELENK3 says:

    Kaci Hickox’s boyfriend says the pair plan to move out of Fort Kent, Maine, sometime after Monday, the last day of 21-day Ebola incubation period – @AP

    I’ll bet they will. she cost that town a lot

  16. HELENK3 says:

    high praise from valjar for new attorney general pick. guess instead of holder’s dept of crime it will be lynch’s dept of crime.
    If valjar likes her it does not seem to be a good pick for the country

    • 1539days says:

      It doesn’t matter anyway. The Democrats already changed the rule so that the filibuster can’t be used on appointments and they have enough to get 50 votes. Even if some Dems are pissed about getting ousted this week, they’ll still vote for her because their lucrative careers outside of DC depend on it.

  17. mothy67 says:

    My first crush long before Channing Tatem
    Dolly. Better start trying better start……………

    Shevis worth 400 hundred million and has no need to keep playing stadiums biut she does
    Think this song is perfevt anecdote to the poor me crowg.

    The day we are born we start to die. Simple but true.

    • 1539days says:

      I see 9 to 5 is playing this weekend on TVGuide channel. That movie is hilarious.

      • mothy67 says:

        I finally caught something this weekend. Dolly has this sort of giggle to her voice. For me she garnishes even a sad song with something akin to lilt.
        My icky one wakes up talking and never stops til I feed her Jim Beam. Kidding but she talks herself to sleep. Somedays I just lay in bed and smile. Her parents kind of threw her away. Yet she carries with her a song in her voice. Kind of like Dolly I don’t think that can be taught. Elvis had it.

  18. mothy67 says:

    I am tone deaf but I love music. More about how is transfers others than me. Laying in bed hearing the pup sing Boom Clap was beyonf fround. Song is fro the Fsult in our Stars. Sad movie but had a message.

  19. The Klown says:

  20. The Klown says:

    • RD’s job is opining on shit she knows 10% about. Her other job is gloating over maybe being right. To quote myself, it’s part of the ethos.

      • The Klown says:

        Sweet Sue, on November 6, 2014 at 6:55 pm said:
        I read your comments on Talk Left and like what you have to say!
        I’m a big fan of Riverdaughter, but I do wish she’d soft pedal it on the elder bashing.
        I’m old, I vote, and I’ve been a liberal since I could form a sentence.

        riverdaughter, on November 7, 2014 at 4:22 am said:
        Sorry, but the seniors have to start taking responsibility for what is about to happen. They can’t live in their own little world where it’s still 1952 and the commies are going to get us and we would be perfectly happy if everyone stuck to their assigned roles. Willful, deliberate ignorance in service of keeping stuff that will be unfairly denied to others is unacceptable.
        It’s too bad that so much of this ignorance is concentrated among people who are older, retired and have a lot of time on their hands to watch Fox News but that’s the truth and they vote. We can’t ignore that it is happening simply because we are uncomfortable with it. The Republicans have deliberately targeted this demographic because they can commit generational warfare while being relatively free from criticism. If you want to stop bad things from happening, you have to be willing to overcome your conditioned response to not criticize sacred groups like the elderly and the religious. Otherwise, the bad guys will continue to flatter them and make them feel like they can get away with any crazy ass s^&* prejudices and force them on others.
        Let’s remember that these people are being used by much bigger and nastier forces. In a way, it’s not their fault that they aren’t aware of what’s going on. In another sense, ignorance is no excuse for bad behavior and treating other demographic groups like dirt out of some misplaced sense of moral superiority.
        It’s too bad that some people in the south are accused of overt racism butcha know, that’s where segregation held out the longest and where the cavalier culture left over from the 17th century still lingers, whether we like it or not. Plantation culture didn’t originate in the south. It’s a british import that was all about the legal exploitation of property, including people. We must not interfere with the ability to make a profit. A lot of reactionary legislation comes from the south where the white male privilege is still not ready to give up on being top dog over african americans, women and poor people and extracting every penny from natural resources and the people who are tasked with retrieving it. We all know this and we don’t feel there’s anything wrong with pointing it out. That doesn’t mean everyone living in the south feels this way but it’s like people robbing banks. They go where the money is.
        Similarly, generational warfare is real and we have to look at the people who are being conscripted to wage it. They are older, less technologically savvy and statistics say that women in particular who were raised in the 50’s had a much poorer educational experience. They weren’t challenged in school. Not all of them were like this but enough of them were that it makes it very hard to reason with many of them and very easy to bamboozle others.
        We’ll have to see if the boomers and Generation Jones has the same reaction to propaganda. After the 2008 primary, I am not optimistic but by then, it will be in the service of some different cause. On the other hand, I just can’t see those generations turning so mindlessly to serve Republicans as the elderly have in the present day.
        Maybe we will mindlessly follow the Democrats who will by then become indistinguishable. But I am hoping that the age of the internet will have had such an impact on us that we won’t be so easily lead. At least there will be more freethinkers and fewer religious conformists among our peers.

        • The Klown says:

          She’s got more issues than TV Guide.

          • Mary says:

            She’s pathetic. And very self-absorbed, in a delusional way. Ugh.

          • leslie says:

            Couldn’t read it. She used to make sense, but the issues keep multiplying and are getting in the way of any common sense or insight that might’ve existed in her former life. Her poor daughter. I remember when she was going to Germany to study. She probably applied for that honor so she could escape the cray cray.

        • lyn says:

          The biggest plantation owner in America today is the Democratic Party.

        • angienc says:

          I hope she lives to be very, very old and becomes *exactly* what she despises and then dies alone and unloved.

        • WMCB says:

          She sees everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, through the lens of her bitterness toward her mother.

          She cannot see religion and not see her mother. She cannot see seniors and not see her mother. She has transferred every bit of her anger at her mother directly to the GOP and anyone who votes for it.

          It;s really sad, and she’s getting worse. In the past, this stuff would kind of peek out once in awhile, but she could be logical. Now she’s just consumed with it. I hung with riverdaughter from waaaaay back, when we were all on DailyKos and she was cackleberry. This level of incoherence is new.

    • 1539days says:

      Wow. That is what the bubble looks like. Shows on TLC like to drum up drama wherever they can, and these tiny cutaways are somehow enough to indicate a revolt in the family in RD’s universe. It’s also telling that the Duggars and Duck Dynasty seem to be her only window into the America outside the cities and the suburbs. She built those walls around her pretty solid.

    • Constance says:

      I love 19 kids and counting. As far as break away kids go the oldest son who is married doesn’t look all that happy to me.

  21. Kathy says:

    Good point, Klown–I have never watched that show….she must

  22. DeniseVB says:

    This was nice to see:

  23. mothy67 says:

    Here is more crazy. An ex friend compared Jersey Kasinkski’s The Painted Bird to Lena Dunham.
    Yes he made up being eaten by rats but how doest that compare to molesting your sister. Somehow his stretching the truth provides a pass for freaky shit. Sorry I do not see it. And who brings up a dead suicidal writer as a defense for a pig. The Painted Bird has been proven to be false but Being There is great.

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