You Can’t Handle The Truth!


Hot Air:

Besieged by stupid Americans, Media circles the wagons around Gruber

How can you be certain the discovery of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber’s repeated praise for the deception which resulted in the passage of the Affordable Care Act, and his acknowledgement of the “stupidity” of the American people to whom he and his Democratic allies successfully lied, is a major development? The media’s response to this revelation.

The videos, none of which were uncovered by any major news organization but by a previously anonymous investment advisor who found them hiding in plain sight them on YouTube, feature Gruber denigrating the public his law purports to help. Yet, this has hardly merited a mention on the major networks. No nightly newscast has played the footage, and CBS News This Morning was the first network newscast to feature Gruber’s comments at all – and only just today.

Those in the center-left press who have deigned to debase themselves by addressing a story of interest to conservatives insist that there is nothing much to see here. Not only was Gruber’s admission that the ACA was designed to hide its true costs and impact on the American economy already widely known, they say, but that the American public is generally to blame for Gruber’s mendacity.

Calling his comments “the impolitic but ultimately unnewsworthy confessions of a single technocrat,” The New Republic’s Brian Beutler determined that the “finessing” of legislation is a common practice. “It’s true that the bill’s authors took steps to maximize its public appeal and minimize its vulnerabilities,” he noted. “Everyone writing significant legislation does this.”

Neil Irwin, writing in The New York Times, concurred that Gruber was essentially lamenting the existence of a system which lead politicians to craft laws that defraud scoring and oversight mechanisms and then brag getting one over on the public. “Mr. Gruber was, in an infelicitous way, expressing frustration with that state of affairs,” Irwin charitably explained.

“Jonathan Gruber was right,” The New York Times writer and MSNBC contributor Josh Barro insisted. “Public opinion on health care policy is just completely incoherent.” He later insisted that the public’s confusion “puts politicians in a position where the only thing they can do to make the public happy is lie and so, people lied.”


It’s for your own good. Seriously. You’re stupid.

You get confused by the lies on Fox News and you vote against your own interests. The Koch brothers spend millions to fool you into voting for the wrong candidates. You are a low-information voter. You need someone wiser to look out for you.

Luckily, the media is smarter than you. They decide what you need to know and do their best to keep you from being confused by the Republicans.

You should be grateful. Why aren’t you grateful??

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157 Responses to You Can’t Handle The Truth!

  1. The Klown says:

    The real problem isn’t that they don’t understand the American people (even though Dean is right – they don’t), the problem is they don’t understand or trust democracy.

    • The Klown says:

      I understand the frustration when you lose an election because the voters picked the wrong candidate or voted the wrong way on an issue. But that doesn’t entitle you to cheat.

  2. foxyladi14 says:

    Great post Klown just like always. 😀

  3. Mary says:

    (Snort)

    Wait til the Obamacare supporters realize that in the legislation they supported is the new IRS rule that NEXT year (after receiving Ocare subsidies), said supporters must include the annual total amount of those subsidies in their TAXABLE INCOME total on tax returns.

    True story. It’s in there.

  4. The Klown says:

    Ed Morrissey:

    The lies and deceptions speak to a deeper truth about the impulses behind nanny-state initiatives like Obamacare, and those suckered in by them. Gruber may sound especially arrogant and contemptuous of ordinary American voters, but initiatives like Obamacare are predicated on that kind of contempt. They presume that Americans can’t make their own decisions on whether comprehensive health insurance makes fiscal sense, or whether they take in too much salt and sugar in their diet, for that matter.

    Nanny-state activists believe, like Gruber, that people are essentially too stupid to be left to their own devices, and that elites have to remove as many choices as they can from them – or at least as many as they can get away with taking. Gruber merely made that underlying assumption explicit, and repeatedly so. They want the government to either be the elite or to choose them – like Gruber himself was chosen in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney, and then by Democrats in 2009 – to tell people what to do.

    This is the antithesis of democracy and liberty. Free will and respect for individual choice undergirds the very fabric of representational government. If people can’t be trusted to choose whether and how to buy health insurance, or even their own food, then how can they possibly choose the government that would abrogate the power to dictate those choices to them?

    Gruber just made it clear to American voters what his allies in Washington really think of them. They must be hoping that Americans are too stupid to understand it. Last week’s election results show that voters may be a lot smarter than Gruber or the rest of the elitists think.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    It’s official, I’m a racist. I totally blame Obama for this mess which may cause the destruction of an American city. My heart goes out to Ferguson, MO, and looks like St.Louis is on high alert also, I’m just sick about this.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/st-louis-schools-townships-warn-residents-to-stock-up-on-water-food-medicine-before-mikebrown-decision/

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Remember this ? I sure do.

  7. elliesmom says:

    We had an extension of our “bottle bill” on the ballot last week. It was to extend the deposit we have to pay on soda and beer bottles and cans to other things we drink. There were signs everywhere to “Stop Litter!” A sweet young thing came to my door to ask for support for the ballot question. I asked her if she understood the ramifications of the proposal. She went on and on about litter. I asked her how much of the “litter” was from bottles and cans that had deposits already on them? She didn’t know. I asked her how much money the cities and towns who recycle bottles and cans would lose in revenue if people returned the bottles to the store? She didn’t know. I asked her what happened to the deposit money people pay if they recycle their cans instead of returning them to the store? She didn’t know. Close to 80% of the cities and towns in our state recycle. They use the money they get from paper, glass, plastic, and metal to help offset the cost of disposing of the things we can’t recycle. Half of the bottles and cans with deposits don’t make it back for the money to be refunded. That money ends up in the state’s coffers. More bottles and cans with deposits means more money for the state and less money for cities and towns. I asked her how she felt about taking money from our town and giving it to the state? Well, that’s not a good idea, but what are we going to do about the litter? I suggested we pick it up when we see it. I have seldom seen anyone look so confused. The question went down in flames. I’m not sure why, but I’d like to know how she voted when she become one of the “informed voters”. “Democracy” really depends on enough people caring enough to pay attention.

    • The Klown says:

      But . . but . . . WHY DO YOU HATE THE ENVIRONMENT???

    • WMCB says:

      Good for you. I was reading yesterday a blog commenter describe getting thrown off of an environmental blog for asking one simple question: “What would be the impact of a carbon fuel tax on the poorest among us?” Didn’t even argue against one, just ASKED what the impact would be.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    It just gets better 😉

  9. jeffhas says:

    I’m pretty certain someone else said something like this yesterday… but, it bears repeating/expansion:

    The real insult is not to people who watch Fox News – they were never sold on Obamacare to begin with. The people who should be insulted were all the people WHO DID support Obamacare – and voted for the legislation time and again by blindly supporting the Senators and Congressmen who passed the bill.

    If I were a Dem right now, I’d be pretty furious that the people I supported to write this bill felt they needed to shield me from it’s true content. Alas, most Dems and Independents won’t be insulted at all – because Gruber was correct, and Dems will never see the insult to them.

  10. fif says:

    The other critical piece of information that all these apologists conveniently avoid is that Obama’s entire presidential campaign was based on the high principles he claimed he would bring to the office (and that was supposed to make up for his glaring lack of experience). “THE MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION EVER.” And now they all scramble to justify the avalanche of ethical violations and lies – well everybody does it, so we have to. It’s the system. Nothing to see here. /shrug/

    • cynic says:

      As a candidate in 2008 while criticizing the Bush Administration as the “most secretive administration in modern history,” then-Senator Obama promised to put all bills online five days before signing to allow the public to comment. (buzzfeed)

      To which, I add, bwahahahahahahahah, you stupid voters.

      • cynic says:

        McCain noted that Obama had made $932 million in earmark requests during his first three years as a senator and he criticized Obama for saying earmarks accounted for “only $18 billion” in federal spending.

        Obama replied, “John, nobody is denying that $18 billion is important. And, absolutely, we need earmark reform . And when I’m president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.” (politifact.com)

        To which, I add, bwahahahahahahah, you stupid voters

    • DeniseVB says:

      That’s the trouble with our old “liberal” friends. While they may not support Obama any longer, they still hate Republicans more. They should cozy up with the rest of us newly independent free thinkers where no politician can escape !

      I do remember all the hopeychangey crap Obama spewed during the first primary, but it never made sense to me because his background didn’t make sense nor did it fit his “soaring rhetoric” and greek columns. Mr. Showboat was every bit the slacker I’d expected to be. His stupid seal “Office of the President-Elect” was my first clue 🙂

  11. WMCB says:

    Oh, and BTW, the guy who found the videos said yesterday that he DID give them to the NYT, weeks before, and they sat on them.

    Tapper, to give him credit, is I think the only network news show so far to cover this on air.

  12. The Klown says:

  13. SHV says:

    The whole Nanny State, leftie, Ivy League academic, etc. is just another squirrel along with Gruber. The insurance industry and “big health” had the AHA written several years before Obama was selected to sell it. The person who was in charge of making sure that Senate committee bill (the one written by the lobbyists) became law was Nancy Ann DeParle. She was Obama’s industry appointed minder.

    Nancy Ann Deparle:
    “Nancy-Ann Min DeParle (born December 17, 1956) served as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy in the administration of President Obama from January 2011 to January 2013.[1] Previously, she served as the director of the White House Office of Health Reform,[2][3] leading the administration’s efforts on health care issues, including the passing of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. ”
    ***
    “DeParle has drawn criticism for her lucrative service on corporate boards after her tenure in the Clinton administration. Msnbc.com reported that she was paid more than $6 million, and served as a director of half a dozen companies that faced federal investigations, whistleblower lawsuits and other regulatory actions. Many of these companies have a stake in the health care reform that she led.[10]

    She served as a director of Accredo Health Inc., Boston Scientific, Cerner Corp., DaVita, Guidant, Medco Health Solutions, Speciality Laboratories, and Triad Hospitals. She was a managing director of CCMP Capital.[11]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy-Ann_DeParle

    During her time as Obama’s minder, she was called the most powerful person that know one has heard of.

  14. WMCB says:

    And now all of the left “intelligentsia” are running around going “GRUBER? WHO? HE HAD NUTTIN TO DO WITH NUTTIN, MAN.” Unfortunately, people are digging up stuff like this.

  15. The Klown says:

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  17. votermom says:

    Gruber’s voice reminds me of Penguin on Gotham.

  18. Reblogged this on JohnnyAngel Advocacy Group and commented:
    How many “All The President’s Men” stories could this administration furnish for liberal Hollywood ? Ha, that’s a laugh !!

  19. cynic says:

    Here’s a couple of interesting Gruber quotes:

    (…)
    Gruber says he’s a “big believer” in the concept that people should pay more for their health care so they’ll know what it really costs and have an incentive to save money.
    (…)
    Of course, Gruber is also an advocate of “let’s pass this bill now and then we can fix it later on” – a tacit acknowledgment that affordability will remain a crucial issue.
    http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/november/jonathan-gruber-on-affordability

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Yeah, right, they turn this bling over to some warehouse because federal ethics. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, (breath), HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/11/12/state-department-queen-of-brunei-gave-michelle-obama-more-than-70g-worth-of-jewelry-in-2013/

  21. The Klown says:

    FOUR videos:

    In this fourth video, Gruber’s language is not as stark as in three previous instances, but his suggestion that Obamacare proponents engaged in less-than-honest salesmanship remains.

    “Barack Obama’s not a stupid man, okay?” Gruber said in his remarks at the College of the Holy Cross on March 11, 2010. “He knew when he was running for president that quite frankly the American public doesn’t actually care that much about the uninsured….What the American public cares about is costs. And that’s why even though the bill that they made is 90% health insurance coverage and 10% about cost control, all you ever hear people talk about is cost control. How it’s going to lower the cost of health care, that’s all they talk about. Why? Because that’s what people want to hear about because a majority of American care about health care costs.” …

    Gruber said the measures in the bill that attempt to lower costs constitute a “spaghetti approach” — throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. And while preferable to the status quo, Gruber said he could offer no guarantee that any of the measures would work.What are the Obamacare trade-offs

    “The only way we’re going to stop our country from being a latter day Roman Empire and falling under its own weight is getting control of the growth rate of health care costs,” he said. “The problem is we don’t know how.” Experts “know what the problem is,” he said. “Our providers are paid enormously high. In the 1950s surgeons are middle class guys like professors…Now they live on the Hamptons, the Cape, they’re like investment bankers.”

    • John Denney says:

      “The problem is we don’t know how.”

      And he says *we’re* stupid???
      At least I understand the Law of Supply and Demand, unlike those who wrote the laughably named ACA, which increases demand while stifling supply, and tell us costs will go down.

  22. WMCB says:

  23. The Klown says:

  24. The Klown says:

    Valerie Jarrett Plays The Vagina Card:

  25. The Klown says:

    • Nah. This is part of the War on Coal. They’ve been hitting it all week on NPR morning and evening news. As the hour program begins, somewhere in the first five minutes is buried a standard old-school just-the-facts-ma’am style news story about something coal-sin related. As the hour draws to a close, there’s a narrative story that includes heart-wrenching stories of death and dismemberment complete with interviews with survivors or relatives. Yesterday they were kvetching so hard they actually described a Christmas song they didn’t actually play. This is all coordinated agitprop ahead of some new EPA rules. As a bonus, it hits McConnell where it hurts and there are fantasies it will distract him. As if.

  26. The Klown says:

  27. Constance says:

    I would like to see the Republicans write up and vote to pass a two page health care law that benefited American citizens. Then chip away at Obama care. I think it is about ready to crash under it’s own weight but why not give it a little shove?

  28. The Klown says:

    You lie like a priceless Persian rug on a rich man’s floor
    Well, You lie like a coon dog basking in the sunshine on my porch
    Well, You lie like a penny in the parking lot at the grocery store
    It just comes way too natural to you
    The way you lie

    You lie like the man with the slick back hair who sold me that Ford
    Well, You lie like the pine tree in the back yard after last month’s storm
    Well, You lie like a penny in the parking lot at the grocery store
    It just comes way too natural to you
    The way you lie

    Because you lie like a priceless Persian rug on a rich man’s floor
    Well, You lie like a coon dog basking in the sunshine on my porch
    Well, You lie like a penny in the parking lot at the grocery store
    It just comes so dang natural to you
    The way you lie
    The way you lie
    Well it’s what you do, it’s who you are

  29. The Klown says:

  30. 1539days says:

    I looked back on my blog and saw that I commented that the numbers were cooked the day the CBO released its scoring of the cost of Obamacare. Everyone knew there were assumptions, some knew that Medicare funds were counted twice, but Democrats just bashed Republicans.

    I think every decision the Republican Congress makes should go through Ted Cruz. If I were writing the budget, Obama would be traveling on Greyhound One and Michelle would be eating out of a can of Hormel in the back seat.

  31. 1539days says:

    By the way, Gruber was also part of Romneycare. This information answers why the GOP wins in the midterms but can’t seem to get their shit together in presidential elections.

    • angienc says:

      By the way, “Romneycare” was passed by a veto proof Dem state legislature & Romney actually helped scale some of the crazier shit back. You’re too smart to pretend that “Romneycare” — a 37 page state law passed with an overwhelming majority — and Obamacare — a 1200 page national law that was crammed through without debate (i.e., “reconcillation” vote needing only 51) on Christmas eve in order to avoid having the new Republican senator Mass. elected to prevent a 60th vote for it — is anywhere *near* the same thing days, even if Gruber was part of the drafting of both.

      • The Klown says:

        If Romneycare was so great why do they sneer at it?

      • 1539days says:

        That’s two arguments, though. Either Romney did what he could to stop the law or what was passed was actually a good law. Romney’s stance was the latter during the campaign, which took away the biggest issue for many people in the 2012 election. Romney could have argued that Obamacare was tried in MA and here’s what’s wrong with it. Instead, he tried to say Obamacare works in MA, but it can’t work nationally, which is a harder needle to thread logically.

        I think Obamacare is a lot worse than Romneycare for many reasons and that’s why the Obama campaign made sure to argue both were the same.

    • Anthony says:

      Romney was smart enough to know (and say OUT LOUD) that it would never work as a national plan.

      Gruber, in one of his more enlightening rants, mentioned that ”Ted Kennedy had managed to figure out a way to rip off the federal Medicaid program to the tune of about $500 million a year through a series of strange manipulations.”

      http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/13/obamacare-architect-ted-kennedy-ripped-off-medicaid-video/

  32. HELENK3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/205269-obama-officials-bash-america-at-the-un-for-not-living-up-to-our-own-values/

    backtrack officials bash America at the UN for not living up to our values

    does the US state dept work for the people of the USA or backtrack? Do we pay their salaries or does he. If we are paying them we are getting really cheated

  33. HELENK3 says:

    Several Senate Democrats say there was little to no discussion ahead of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., getting new leadership role; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., calls move a ‘fait accompli’ – @HuffPostPol
    Read more on huffingtonpost.com

  34. John Denney says:

    I posted Tuesday about the UN Arms Treaty that is set to take effect in December, but was informed by Falstaff that it was BS, and directed me to a Snopes article about it.

    Interesting that Investors Business Daily should have an article about it today.
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111214-726176-arms-trade-treaty-takes-effect-december-24.htm
    They make the point that the Kyoto climate treaty was never ratified either.
    Just because a treaty was never ratified doesn’t mean the agenda won’t go forward. Just ask the coal miners.

    • John Denney says:

      Tourist watching Mother Teresa washing a lepers wounds: “I wouldn’t do that for a million bucks!”
      Mother Teresa: “Neither would I.”

  35. The Klown says:

  36. The Klown says:

    • Constance says:

      This is the only answer for this kind of offender because if you give them life in prison, eventually a Democrat will be elected and set them free to prey on societies innocents.

  37. DandyTIger says:

    D*ck the halls with b**ls of holly

  38. DandyTIger says:

    Progressives in Australia protesting their governments inaction on climate change. All progressive should get comfortable with this.

  39. HELENK3 says:

    President Obama formally submits nomination of Loretta Lynch to be US Attorney General to Senate – @markknoller
    End of alert

    female holder

    • 1539days says:

      The Keystone XL pipeline vote might pass the Senate because Harry Reid is trying to save the last race possible. Typical of Obama, he has already let it be known that he won’t sign it. So what we’re left with is a bill that’s going to get vetoed so that Landrieu can claim “I voted for it” but couldn’t get it passed. At this point, if Obama signed it and credited Landrieu by name as the sole reason, she still wouldn’t win in Louisiana.

      • Constance says:

        Even if Obama says he won’t sign it Republicans need to vote bills through to him to prove the Congress works great with them in charge but they will need a Republican President in 2016 to really get this country turned around and moving in the right direction.

        • The Klown says:

          Pass popular bills and let Obama veto them.

          • WMCB says:

            ^^THIS^^ Obama has gotten away with so much by publicly talking like he’s all willing to compromise, while having Reid do all the obstructive dirty work. He counts on that – to never have to make a decision, take a stand, so he gets to come out smelling like a rose.

            Well, Harry is gone, so he doesn’t have those skirts to hide behind anymore. MAKE HIM TAKE A STAND. Pass it anyway, even if he’s going to veto. Make him take a public stand on issues, that he can’t weasel out of.

          • Lulu says:

            Make the Dems OVERRIDE the veto. Bronco has done them all dirty with his stunts with party funds, not meeting with them, etc. Both houses should vote with Repubs on budgets, major projects like the XL, and treaties. Make Bronco irrelevant. Save their seats and vote for their constituents. The reason more house seats were not lost is that not enough were challenged by Repubs. They will be in 2016 even in what are considered safe Dem seats.

          • leslie says:

            Yes.
            Yes.
            and
            Yes!

  40. The Klown says:

    • Lulu says:

      This is why they are just rolling out the “Goober” tapes one at a time. As soon as the Progs think of a reason it doesn’t matter what he said or a half ass “but….” another one rolls out to negate it. Goober literally went everywhere to sell, brag, and spill the beans to drum up his “consulting” side business. He wanted to be hired by the insurance companies AND academia AND state and local government to share his “insights” on how to farm the tax money.

      • cynic says:

        I saw someone over at Athouse called lying ‘grubering’. I like it, thinking this should catch on around the net. Thinking that you can just go around repeatedly calling voters stupid and that’s why you have to lie to them is just so Progressive of him. He just doesn’t get it, and that’s what’s so sad.

  41. 1539days says:

    When I want to ground myself in why democracy is awesome and intellectuals suck, I read about The French Revolution and the Reign of Terror. The “geniuses” behind Obamacare are no different than the Committee of Public Safety who decided which French people were good citizens and who were getting the guillotine. Hell, they even made clergy swear an oath to the Revolutionary government. Sound familiar?

    • The Klown says:

      I think it was Winston Churchill who said that democracy was a horrible political system and the only thing going for it is that it is better than anything else.

  42. swanspirit says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/meet_the_guy_who_found_all_those_jonathan_gruber_obamacare_clips.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
    Meet the guy who found all those Jonathan Gruber Obamacare clips

    e story about Rich Weinstein, an unknown investment advisor who poured through hours and hours of YouTube videos, radio interviews, and other media featuring Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber is both incredible and inspiring.

    It is Weinstein who is responsible for ferreting out Gruber’s toxic comments about the “stupidity of the American people” and, more importantly, Gruber’s insistence that Obamacare subsidies were limited to state exchanges and should not be made available at the federal level.

  43. Lulu says:

    “Obamacare Architect Brags Ted Kennedy “Ripped Off” Medicaid For $500 Million To Create Romneycare…” I heard that clip from “Goober” yesterday and thought that sounds about right. Progs are only “successful” if they cheat. The next ass that says how great Romneycare works for MA should get a swirlie. ““Here was Mitt Romney’s dirty little secret that we don’t like to talk about in Massachusetts, which is the way we passed our law is the federal government paid for it.” http://weaselzippers.us/205352-obamacare-architect-brags-ted-kennedy-ripped-off-medicaid-for-500-million-to-create-romneycare/

  44. HELENK3 says:

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  45. Somebody says:

    This is interesting about housing assistance.
    http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/so-why-are-those-somalis-moving-to-cheyenne-wy-prepare-to-be-shocked/

    Call me silly or I suppose call me racist, but why in the hell are we importing people that can’t take care of themselves or their families? That does nothing to enhance our nation, it doesn’t add to society it takes from society. I think if you want to come here then you have to take care of yourself and your family, no public dole. At least no dole while you’re waiting to become a citizen and perhaps for a certain number of years following. We don’t need to import indigents, we have enough already. It’s complete and utter insanity. American families are being pushed aside and not getting the help that they need that’s bullshit.

  46. HELENK3 says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/state-highway-patrol-captain-warns-st-louis-residents-to-stock-up-on-food-water-before-mikebrown-decision/

    backtrack and holder might just get the race war they wanted. then they will skate away from the carnage

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