Police Body-Cams Are A Great Idea But . . .


Gall’s Law: A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system.

There are at least two sides to every story:

Body cameras sound great, but police chief, prosecutor have concerns

Springfield Police Chief Paul Williams told the News-Leader on Monday that he supports the use of body cameras — but cost and other factors keep them from being worn by members of the department.

“I don’t see us implementing them at this point,” he said.

Among local law enforcement agencies, park rangers with the Springfield-Greene County Park Board and Airport Police at the Springfield-Branson National Airport already use body cameras.

But Greene County Prosecutor Dan Patterson told the News-Leader that use of the devices by Springfield police would “significantly” increase his office’s workload.

“Based on the resources we currently have, which are already inadequate, I do not believe it is a practical solution,” Patterson said.

The local officials made their remarks on the same day that the Obama administration proposed a program to help put cameras on an additional 50,000 police officers nationwide. Obama ordered a review of federal programs that fund military gear for local police in August in the wake of the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson and the resulting protests.


Williams estimated that each body camera would cost $1,000; he’d want to buy 250 to outfit the force, so the total cost would be $250,000.

But then there’s the cost of storing and managing the hours and hours of recorded data and the time associated with responding to requests for footage by media and individuals under Missouri Sunshine Law. Williams said he might need to hire an employee dedicated to dealing with the footage and estimated that the annual cost of having the cameras could be an additional $250,000, he said.

“I think they’re a good tool; cost is still an issue,” Williams said.

Springfield police already have dashboard cameras that record footage from their spot in patrol cars. Ideally, Williams would like any body cameras to operate on the same system. While there are brands that offer both dashboard and body cameras, the brand of dashboard cameras the department currently has — Panasonic — doesn’t have a complimentary body camera system.

“I’ve got 140 cameras in cars, and I don’t want to take those out and throw those away,” he said.


Mike Evans, president of the Springfield Police Officers Association — a labor group that represents those lower in rank than lieutenant within the department — told the News-Leader on Monday that the association is not opposed to body cameras.

“I think they’re absolutely the wave of the future — there’s no way around it,” he said.

Like Williams, Evans questioned where the funding would come from — the association is campaigning for higher pay, and contract negotiations with the city have stalled — and noted that there are privacy concerns.

“The reality is if we bring the camera in your house, everything on the camera is public record,” Evans said.


Patterson said the exact impact of body cameras on the Greene County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office would depend on the policies governing their use. But the office must provide defense attorneys with written or recorded statements made by witnesses; Patterson believes that means the office would need to review body camera footage for essentially every case if there is audio involved.

“You’re talking about potentially adding hours and hours of reviewing,” he said.

Patterson also said the footage could require “significant capital investments” in terms of electronic media storage.

Stone, the city of Springfield’s risk manager, said insurance companies have three main areas of concern about body cameras:

• Privacy concerns: “Who owns the data and how will it be used?” Stone wrote. “What is public and what is private? If police officers conduct interviews of domestic violence or rape victims, who can access that video?”

• Policy concerns: “If officers are required to always have the cameras turned on it will likely lead to privacy issues. If the use of cameras is discretionary, what happens when an incident occurs and the camera was not rolling?”

• Labor unions and employment-related lawsuits: “What will police departments do with all of this video that may show procedural errors and minor infractions? Will this lead to more officer terminations for procedural violations? Will these terminations lead to more lawsuits for ‘wrongful termination?'”

Stone said insurance companies as a whole are watching to see how courts rule on these issues.

That covers most of the issues I was thinking about, and a couple I hadn’t thought of. Don’t get me wrong – I remain a supporter of requiring cops to wear body-cams while on duty. Implementation will be problematic, however.

This is not something that can be done by a stroke of Obama’s pen. This isn’t something that Congress can pass into law. Even if they could, this really isn’t something we want the federal government handling anyway. They’ll just FUBAR it up with cronyism, political correctness and incompetence.

Some state and local governments will screw it up too, but some of them won’t. We can take the success stories and build on them, in sort of a policy version of natural selection.

We will need policies and procedures that are both workable and accomplish the real goal – better cops and more transparency. It’s not going to happen overnight. But it is definitely worth doing.

Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

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110 Responses to Police Body-Cams Are A Great Idea But . . .

  1. The Klown says:

    • Lulu says:

      Obama was on the gravy train circle of commissions, “challenges”, studies, Gruber-esque modeling, blah-blah, assistant to the ward boss, think tanks, etc when public or private money is extorted, passed out, to cronies and public “extortion” to NOT solve problems. It is the academic (see Gruber again), civil rights, political walking around money, payoffs, bribes, and general bullshit to solve made up problems for profit. 95% of the problem could be solved with “Don’t do this” and the PROBLEM will disappear (ie don’t act like or be a criminal and your problem with cops will disappear dumbass). This is how the Dem Clique pay off their minions under the guise of caring. They don’t care about squat but want their cut from the public or extortion teat. Gruber has done more to expose the underlying dishonesty and corruption of the academic, political, graft nexus than most people realize. It is done at every level of government not just the feds with Dems but they are the worst especially with the civil rights merry go round of payoffs. Remember that Crump INC pays off pols with contributions which also keeps him from getting disbarred. This system has to be broken or it will continue to bleed the nation to death.

    • leslie says:

      Obama did the same thing in Illinois that he did everywhere else. He did not hold meetings of committees. He did not attend meetings. He did not author bills. He did not do anything of substance. Emil Jones set it up so that obama’s name was added to bills just before they were voted on – and only the bills that were destined to pass. Obama voted “present” how many times? And that was only when he was present. The same in DC. He had a chairmanship of a sub-committee in the Foreign Relations Committee and he never called a meeting in the 2 years prior to beginning his campaign for pResident. Build consensus? Fournier needs to do research instead of parroting talking points.

  2. The Klown says:

    • SHV says:

      Lunenburg? About 8-10 miles east of Fitchburg

      • elliesmom says:

        Actually, Lunenburg and Fitchburg are contiguous. This incident was really about a mom wanting her 15 year old kid moved from the junior varsity team to the varsity so he might get noticed and get a football scholarship. The incident rippled through all of the other high school teams, especially the other team who got its Thanksgiving Day game cancelled. Lots of kids wearing shirt numbers in solidarity with the kid, and lots of coaches and football players left with egg on their faces.

  3. I’m not so sure they are a great idea, myself. I get why people are promoting the idea in light of recent events, but it seems Orwellian to me. I remember back in the day when the surveillance state was taboo, something to be avoided. Now we’re inviting it in. Populations most at risk are outright demanding it, and the surveillance President is just so happy to oblige at lightening speed. This is how democracy ends: with a faked riot and a plea for more authoritarian control.

    • swanspirit says:

      Oh yeah , body cams . How much minor illicit activity that cops regularly overlook so that they can focus on more serious crimes will be recorded ? Every corner of every street that police cruise on will be recorded . Corner, heck , the whole street will be recorded. This could get very interesting . Some neighborhoods that are inviting the body cams might be surprised at how much will be recorded. Yeah , body cams , bring it on !

      • 49erDweet says:

        When dashcams were “experimental” cops had to be retrained for months on staying away from the viewing field EXCEPT when a perp was present. “Staging” was the term. Evil. Suggests deception.

    • Ann says:

      I can see both sides of this… but tend to agree with the “be careful what you wish for” crowd. I am tired of the all-seeing-government-eye. I have wondered what was in it for “them” (Obama, Holder) to gin-up controversy on this Ferguson thing… why incite a riot? Maybe this is why. More government spying. And make no mistake about it, body cameras are spying, but presented in a “for you own good” way. More nanny state.

  4. The Klown says:

    Putting down a marker: This UVA gang rape case will prove to be a hoax.

    • The Klown says:

    • votermom says:

      The UVa story sounds like an Accused – AHS:Coven – Buffy crossover fanfic.

      • Lulu says:

        The victim going around giving “talks” this soon after the crime tipped me off. People who have been through something that horrific and traumatic usually can’t talk about it to complete strangers for years. The victim and the writer both look too much like attention seeking fabulists for their own reasons. Distrust and believing everyone is a liar is endemic. When the president (and the media) just lies as naturally as breathing the whole society goes to shit. The public naturally goes into “why should I believe anything mode”. We just went through that with “hands up, don’t shoot” malarkey and Gruber.. EVERYTHING is a lie.

    • votermom says:

  5. WMCB says:

    These people are just losing their shit entirely. Full blown hysteria. Jezebel (I won’t link) now has an article up: Modern Day Masculinity Can Be as Damaging as the Taliban

    That’s right guys, if you don’t stamp out every last vestige of maleness from your dirty, dirty souls, you are no better than acid-throwing stoning barbarians.

    • Lulu says:

      I see it as a mental or personality problem that has developed in women as the economics of male employment have tanked. Males are hardwired to be providers, hunters,etc and when that is denied they range off on their own. Females alone can and do make it but it is a lot harder and they are not happy about it. A lot of women know this but a lot of them don’t and can’t figure it out. I have talked to my own daughter about this. There is a time to be supportive and a time to be supported as male/female social, biological, and economic dynamic is a partnership. It is not perfect but it is the best nature provided.

  6. The Klown says:

    Washington Freebeacon:

    Five days after Elizabeth Lauten published a Facebook post criticizing the outfits worn by President Barack Obama’s daughters, the previously obscure Republican Hill staffer is being inundated with threatening messages and major media outlets are pouring resources into tracking her moves and digging into her past.

    Two network news vans camped outside of Lauten’s parents home in North Carolina on Tuesday, one day after she resigned as communication director for Rep. Steven Fincher (R., Tenn.) due to the controversy. Lauten was not at the house.

    That morning, the Washington Post also assigned one of its foreign affairs correspondents to comb through an archive of columns Lauten wrote for her college newspaper in 2006 and 2007.

    I am seeing unverified stuff about this being directed from the White House.

    • Lulu says:

      This is crazy. Now the WH is going to punish people who displease them by “media” bullying and intimidation. It sounds like that housing project mafia in Ferguson who shut up and enforced the residents there into lying or shutting up. The WH acts like a thug criminal enterprise which they are. All of this for implying that the WH daughter’s ass was hanging out. So? Girls that age make wardrobe mistakes all the time as it is part of growing up. Who cares? The WH is touchy because it looks like the girls are unsupervised.

      • Jadzia says:

        Seriously. You don’t want your kid talked about? Don’t trot her out to your photo-ops. Perhaps I am losing my marbles in my old age, but I don’t recall Chelsea Clinton ever appearing in a six-inch-long skirt at a media event when she was that age.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        There is a reason the phrase “The Chicago Way” became part of the national vernacular.

  7. The Klown says:

    FTR: I do not consider Johnson a reliable source.

  8. The Klown says:

    • Lulu says:

      She also doesn’t understand that these civil rights cases are really wrongful death or personal injury court actions aimed at insurance companies or government entities. It is very big business. The “witnesses” and organizers of protests, as well as politicians hyping it all, get a cut from the settlement proceeds called expenses or political contributions. This was Obama’s sole area of legal practice before it was determined he wasn’t very good at the legal end of it but fairly good at the hyping community organizing end of the scam.

  9. HELENK3 says:


    will not rebuild in Ferguson.

    there is an old saying that should be remembered

    you do not shit where you eat.

    when you destroy your neighborhood, you pay the price. How many businesses will not come back? How many people will get out as fast as possible?

    • Lulu says:

      The gang’s protection racket just imploded too. There is not going to be anything left for extortion. One of the funniest things I have read in the entire sorry affair was some idiot reporter contacting the “Quick Trip” convenience store company for comments about their burned stores. The burned stores are just left in ashes, and gasoline trucks pumped the gas out of the tanks. Then they closed a bunch of the non-burned stores in the area, emptied the merchandise,fenced them off with razor wire, pulled the gas pumps and emptied the tanks. They told the reporter “the stores will re-open shortly”. Hahaha. The residents can’t buy gas nor munchies (or rob cigars) in Ferguson.

      • The Klown says:

        In one Heinlein novel there are “Abandoned Areas” where the cops don’t go and the law no longer applies. They are literally enclaves of barbarians.

        • Lulu says:

          In some ways it sounded that Ferguson was already like that. The non-resident GJ witnesses went on and on about how they don’t let their kids or family go there even to visit relatives. They did wellness checks and drop offs for people trapped into living there and then hauled ass out of the area. It was already a lawless dump and got a lot worse fast. I had never heard of a cop going to a housing complex “for a sick baby call” before. I asked a detective I know. He said Wilson didn’t go for the baby but to protect the EMS crew from who knows what going on. That is how bad it is there.

          • lyn says:

            We knew a woman who grew up in St. Louis, and she kept a loaded gun on her passenger’s car seat when she went back to visit. She was black, but she said it didn’t matter what color you were. Some guy tried to carjack her with a knife, and she put the gun in his face. He backed off. 😀

    • votermom says:

      Poor guy. I hope he can start a new business elsewhere.

    • Lulu says:

      “Some liberals, most of which are ego-soaked, look for ways to support their self-perceived importance so they champion imaginary causes for that purpose,” Newburn said. “They are adult-children who feel free to construct fantasies about their greatness. Their narcissism in part functions to blind them to inconvenient realities. So to compensate, they idealize the targets of their misdirected and pathological ‘caring.’”

      ““They perpetuate misery by defending the indefensible such as widespread black predation and other crimes. It causes too much cognitive dissonance and confusion, and it doesn’t comport with their imagined status as a great liberator and defender of their chosen imagined, downtrodden group.”

      “Reality will only disrupt their fantasies as all-knowing and all-protecting avengers. Maturity is sometimes defined as when a person ends illusions in their thinking, and accepts reality, no matter how distasteful. I apply that same definition to the grounded, peaceful, law-abiding, sane, and stable.

      “Over the years I’ve examined and found a trait of sociopath in most liberals. They have this sadistic gratification in creating or fomenting social chaos and conflicts, then, presenting themselves as ‘above it all,’ they arrive to fix the problem they themselves caused or perpetuated. Think of it as mental illness. A Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, but on a very large scale.”

      It is literally crazy talk and thinking. And it is an epidemic.

  10. The Klown says:

    • Lulu says:

      And it is just plain old creepy. The hysterical fervor, denial of all proven forensic facts, complete reliance of what someone else told them like it is a game of telephone, is weird and very creepy. They remind me of hysterical children who don’t understand what is happening. Children have an excuse (immaturity) but adults don’t.

    • piper says:

      “THOMAS SOWELL, ECONOMIST: Oh, for political reasons. I thought of Joseph Goebbels’ doctrine, people will believe any lie if it’s repeated often enough and loud enough. They’re repeating it often enough and loud enough. And it will pay off for them personally and politically. People who are out to forward their political careers say and do things that have no relationship whatever to reality or to anybody else’s interests but their own. I think what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, it is going to adversely affect blacks yet unborn who will still be paying the price for it 10, 20 years from now because you’re not going to have businesses there that you had before. I’ve seen this happen in other cities. Detroit, is a classic example. Harlem. You run through the whole list of them. A city doesn’t get over this kind of stuff in a few years.

  11. HELENK3 says:


    remember this story? judged before investigation complete

    • Lulu says:

      What I find disturbing is lawyers who are supposed to know better mouthing off about stuff they don’t have the facts about. Nancy Grace, Bronco, etc look like morons. Every media source has a lawyer. Why do their lawyers not caution them about vetting their stories better? We need more lawsuits against the media smearing people, libeling them, to stop it.

  12. Lulu says:

    Schumer and now Harkin: ““We had the power to do it in a way that would have simplified healthcare, made it more efficient and made it less costly and we didn’t do it,” Harkin told The Hill. “So I look back and say we should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all.”
    Duh! Old Harkin is retiring so blowback from the WH won’t work on him. The Dems are looking at the end of being a national party because of Obamacare. They should have frigging known this in 2010 but they believed Bronco. More fools them. Too late now. H/T to WZ. http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/225812-harkin-dems-better-off-without-obamacare#.VH8ZN4Rt2lQ.twitter

    • piper says:

      Something about losing his coveted seat to a Republican woman, Joni Ernst instead of his democrat favorite, Bailey, or Braley.

  13. DandyTIger says:

    I too am in favor of cop-cams, just like I’m in favor of the ones in the vehicles. It does cost money. And there is definitely additional yearly costs and staffing required to make it work. Seems like the best approach is to do precinct by precinct to work out the kinks and develop standards. I’d think the same stuff needed for the cars would work for the wearables though, so I’m not sure how big an additional cost it would really be.

    • Lulu says:

      As with any public policy change it needs to be phased in and the kinks worked out. This WH wants to decree it, and then walk away from any mess, just like Obamacare. Protocols for storage of data need developing, how long to retain it, if they need a designated tech person to maintain it all, storage of data that won’t be hacked, deleted, etc. This used to be done with test areas, like a city or county, and it is all paid for by the state or feds to get the problems worked out and evaluated without screaming and finger pointing. Now it is just another opportunity for graft like the medical records systems required in Obamacare that made one of his software billionaire political bundlers a zillion dollars and doesn’t even work worth a damn since their was no phase in period. ValJar probably told him they have a bundler with cameras from China for sale or can get some with a 1000% markup.

  14. HELENK3 says:


    ferguson rioters now want Christmas cancelled.
    best comment was ” Why? they did their Christmas shopping last week”

  15. elliesmom says:

    My concern about body cams isn’t the money involved. We spend our tax dollars on a lot of things that don’t give us much of a return for our investment. I see body cams on cops just another invasion of privacy. Not for the cops. For the rest of us. Are people as likely to call the cops for things like domestic violence if they know the whole thing will be recorded? How about the times cops stop kids and just tell them to get home and make no note of it. Now the kid will have a “police record” if someone goes looking for it. If you’re a rape victim with your clothes torn, how will it feel it those first few moments when the police arrive to know you’re being taped? If I were a policemen, I might want a body cam to protect myself from false charges. Given the risks they take everyday, I’ll support that, but I think the people who are screaming for them are going to be the losers.

    • lyn says:

      These are good concerns. I think the police should have a choice when to use the camera. Have it voice-activated when certain words are used. Otherwise, it increases the surveillance state when a camera always is on.

    • Lulu says:

      The cops will be in favor of them since they know it is on and can react appropriately. Drunks, crazy people, injured people will have their privacy violated as a matter of course. All of this needs to be thought out, a legal method to make it available if necessary to the public, some kind of court order to do so for the public good, strict privacy laws to prohibit willy-nilly leaking of “Cops” type video for fun and profit or political/social manipulation. All of this can be done but not “next week” as the WH is suggesting to punt another one of their political failures down the road.

      • mothy6767 says:

        I forgot about drunks. I had several friend of the NYPD cards in my wallet when I lived in Manhattan Never had to pull one out but I did have the occasion where I was weaving down the sidewalk at 5 am and being stopped. I was out all night wasted but when stopped I deferred to the po po. I wasn’t hurting anyone but public intoxication is against the law. I was raised to respect the law and the police. I did not act out. I did my alphabet and social security number backwards. Try doing that after seven dirty Bombay Sapphire Martini’s. Point is I knew I was wrong and so did they. I was aware of my situation and responded as such. I was leaving a bar on 168h and Broadway going to my apartment which was one block away. I wasn’t driving I was walking one avenue. Cop cams bother me because how much of that footage would be used. Not against me but about perception. This was Washington Heights I knew every cop by face. I got very drunk and walked one block home. We’re it caught on film juxtaposed with a crack dealer walking the same streets it could be played out that they favored me. Bullshit.
        I have lived in tenements in the Lower East Side in the eighties. Hell’s Kitchen in the early nineties and Washington Heights after that. I tended bar in a lot of places and you learn what to expect when people walk in. Is that profiling? 20 years of doing the job I can identify and I am never wrong. Not a race thing I can almost smell the poison that reeks from some white people. As a bartender yes I profiled I would ignore and make shitty drinks. When I worked in the Theatre district I’d get a lot of women of the night on snowy or rainy days. they all drank Hennessey and did not tip.
        Tough passed women selling themselves to another(can’t in good faith say I would not pay for my ideal)
        Going back fifteen years 10th Avenue NYC I think hey this shirt sucks.
        I am perhaps an idiot because I go on and on– check out women’s shelters run by Nuns. I am a gay man but I respect the aspect of Catholicism which says give back. Tithe. I like to give directly to a woman’s shelter. I buy products as well. I give 20 to feel good program and three lady razors get there. I buy a case from the dollar store and 24 get there.

  16. mothy6767 says:

    When I read these outrageous pieces about gay cakes, pick your gender to play a team sport, abortion as a means of birth control, thugs being gentle giants I wonder if the writer’s have children and pray if they do they have a nanny. I enjoy reading things I do not agree with but have yet to encounter anything from VOX or the MSNBC crowd that challanges. It is all straight white men are vile oppressive homophobic misogynistic racist rapists pigs. I feel for Matty and Ezra’s parents. They are laughable. It is surreal how they make mountains out of mole hills. Do not exist in reality. The fact that they think so highly of themselves is indicative that at heart they are crippled by insecurity. Imagine the gall to assume the position of explaining the world to those not gifted with your superior intelligence. What’s jokes.

  17. mothy6767 says:

    I hate getting emails from companies that have my address because I bought their product. Amazon deal today 269 for a kindle fire and complete Rosetta Stone language course. I spent 389 for both. I don’t want to see that I spent 120 more. Good deal though as full price Rosetta for 5 lessons is 499 and Kindle Fire is 139.

  18. The Klown says:

  19. mothy6767 says:

    Does anyone actually find Barry attractive? Looking at barky in the water reminded me of the reporter’s gone wild video from 2008. The female reporter’s were embarrassing drooling and giggling. I find nothing about that man attractive and I actually find his way of speaking to be abusive belittling condescending. I was told back then that I didn’t find him sexy because I was racist. Really? I think the guy on Criminal Minds and Blair Underwood are beautiful people. Which turned into you are racist because you are not attracted to traditional black. What? I think Glenn on the Walking Dead is adorable. So finding or not finding someone attractive is racist. These prongs I know we’re actually dictating to me what I should be attracted to. Bizarre.

    • The Klown says:

      He doesn’t float my boat but I’m a flaming hetero. I would say he is generically good looking in that he’s in decent physical shape if you like the skinny non-athletic type. He dresses nice. It’s his personality that I find off-putting.

      OTOH I never understood all the talk about MO as a sex symbol and fashion icon. She has Hugh Jass Syndrome and is downright ugly when she scowls.

    • Lulu says:

      There are a lot of very good looking black men. Bronco is not one of them. The hype over the “attractiveness” of both Obama’s was marketing spin and hype.

  20. HELENK3 says:


    I guess the only way for women to be safe around this guy is do not drink anything and carry a ginsue circumcision knife

  21. piper says:

    Meanwhile on college campuses the screed about ridding the world of troublesome Israel continues.

  22. DeniseVB says:

    New York Magazine kinda explains away NFLer Dockett leering at Malia’s butt. He’s just a crazy guy who does crazy things all the time. Malia’s just being treated like those other young Hollywood stars who are always being leered at. And oh, Launten called the Obama girls sluts (she did not) that’s so much worse because white conservative.


  23. votermom says:

    • Lulu says:

      More cultural insensitivity by Robin Givhan. That is how many white people (and black people!) dress their young children for dress up occasions and even an ignoramus like Givhan knows it. Did Givhan make cracks about how Prince George of Cambridge is dressed which is almost identical. She is a hypocrite.

    • swanspirit says:


      There they were — John, Jane, Josie and Jack — standing with the president and before the entire country. The nominee was in a sober suit with the expected white shirt and red tie. His wife and children stood before the cameras, groomed and glossy in pastel hues — like a trio of Easter eggs, a handful of Jelly Bellies, three little Necco wafers. There was tow-headed Jack — having freed himself from the controlling grip of his mother — enjoying a moment in the spotlight dressed in a seersucker suit with short pants and saddle shoes. His sister, Josie, was half-hidden behind her mother’s skirt. Her blond pageboy glistened. And she was wearing a yellow dress with a crisp white collar, lace-trimmed anklets and black patent-leather Mary Janes.

      (Who among us did a double take? Two cute blond children with a boyish-looking father getting ready to take the lectern — Jack Edwards? Emma Claire? Is that you? Are all little boys now named Jack?)

      The wife wore a strawberry-pink tweed suit with taupe pumps and pearls, which alone would not have been particularly remarkable, but alongside the nostalgic costuming of the children, the overall effect was of self-consciously crafted perfection. The children, of course, are innocents. They are dressed by their parents. And through their clothes choices, the parents have created the kind of honeyed faultlessness that jams mailboxes every December when personalized Christmas cards arrive bringing greetings “to you and yours” from the Blake family or the Joneses. Everyone looks freshly scrubbed and adorable, just like they have stepped from a Currier & Ives landscape.

      In a time when most children are dressed in Gap Kids and retailers of similar price-point and modernity, the parents put young master Jack in an ensemble that calls to mind John F. “John-John” Kennedy Jr.

      Separate the child from the clothes, which do not acknowledge trends, popular culture or the passing of time. They are not classic; they are old-fashioned. These clothes are Old World, old money and a cut above the light-up/shoe-buying hoi polloi.

  24. DeniseVB says:


  25. HELENK3 says:


    you can have all the body cam, car cams, and tapes in the world. If the people is a position to do something, do nothing it will not make a difference

  26. WMCB says:

    Rolling Stone writers are out in force, scolding us for not shutting up and buying their story whole and without question.

  27. The Klown says:

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  30. DeniseVB says:

    Peter Pan is a racist story, the 2014 version (Live on NBC tomorrow night) will be cleaned up and not offend anybody 😉


  31. leslie says:

    I’m @work and just received this in my email. If it has already been reported here, I apologize:

    A New York grand jury decided against an indictment Wednesday in the death of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died after white police officer Daniel Pantaleo put him in a chokehold, according to two law enforcement officials.

    Get complete coverage of breaking news on CNN TV, CNN.com and CNN Mobile.

  32. The Klown says:

    Megyn Kelly Battles Congressional Black Caucus Member Over ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’:

  33. HELENK3 says:

    Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott announces he will lead a 17 state coalition challenging President Obama’s recent immigration action – @BenPhilpottKUT

  34. John Denney says:

    Too bad Mike Brown wasn’t wearing a body camera.

    Yet, even without body cameras, those interested in the truth can see that his demise was justified.

    How many people still chanting, “Hands up; don’t shoot”, would be convinced of the officer’s innocence even if there *were* body cam video?

    • DandyTIger says:

      Good question. Pretty clear physical evidence doesn’t seem to put a dent into their narrative / religious beliefs. Heck, they even are still saying Michael Brown didn’t rob that store. So I don’t think a video of what happened would phase them either. Maybe we should just save the money, and skip the whole idea. Facts have no effect on crazy cult people.

      • DeniseVB says:

        But, but, but …. Michael Brown was UNARMED ! I’ve pointed many of my lib friends to the .pdf of the entire Grand Jury transcript, and they’re still not convinced that a raging bull charging you is not dangerous. Sigh.

  35. HELENK3 says:

    Staten Island District Attorney Dan Donovan says he is seeking court permission to release grand jury information in Eric Garner case – @NYDNHammond

    • DeniseVB says:

      Even Greta’s vexed about the decision. Greg Gutfeld’s blaming the nanny state of cops overreacting to stupid stuff like it being illegal (?) to sell cigs on the street. There’s stuff that the grand jury knows that we don’t ?

      • John Denney says:

        Heh. New York has gone from being the Empire State to the Nanny State.
        “The Nanny State Building” just doesn’t have the same vibe.

        • mothy6767 says:

          I once loved that city. I was a sophomore at Temple in Philly and had never taken a bite out of that Apple. Most of my friends were from the area and had no burning desire to go. I got up early one day and went by myself. I was smitten when I stepped out on 42nd Street. I did not know uptown from downtown east side from West side. I just wandered and eventually ran into someone I knew getting coffee from McDonald’s across the street from Tisch. My. Personal take is that it has become too soft Also Guilianni needs to shut up about Ferguson. I was grateful to him after 9/11 but the guy took a lot of liberties. Tried to make it illegal to ask for money near an ATM. Really. Freedom of speech matters unless you are inconvenienced.

  36. WMCB says:

    I think the Garner case deserves looking at. But the race-baiters are having a field day.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Love this guy, especially how he goes for Sharpton’s race baiting throat. Caught him live on Cavuto, I think Cavuto’s having him back on his Fox business show tonight to discuss the Garner verdict.

  37. DeniseVB says:

    Oh good, Holder’s involved now. Protesters gathering in Times Square, hope they don’t burn it down 😦

  38. mothy6767 says:

    I am the ultimate sucker. Phone rang– brats acting class teacher recommending she take a full days classes. I caved said you have my credit card number go ahead. Kid loves it. Like Fame kids break out in song and dance in the hallways. I live outside the city but it is still not a place where I feel comfortable letting her run like I did. So you plop them down in front of the tv or you get them involved. I thought three more acting classes would be too much– she has swim, dance(ballet, jazz, tap, and hip hop), “tea keno do, guitar, voice and acting. But she was overjoyed.
    I wonder why schools don’t offer some of these things for free or low cost. Tae Kwon Do requires no equipment not does creative dramatics and most schools have a pool. Teach them to know themselves or let them run wild and pay a hundred grand a year to incarcerate.

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