The Horror of Manspreading



Just when you think you’ve seen everything . . .

A Scourge Is Spreading. M.T.A.’s Cure? Dude, Close Your Legs.
‘Manspreading’ on New York Subways Is Target of New M.T.A. Campaign

It is the bane of many female subway riders. It is a scourge tracked on blogs and on Twitter.

And it has a name almost as distasteful as the practice itself.

It is manspreading, the lay-it-all-out sitting style that more than a few men see as their inalienable underground right.

Now passengers who consider such inelegant male posture as infringing on their sensibilities — not to mention their share of subway space — have a new ally: the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

Taking on manspreading for the first time, the authority is set to unveil public service ads that encourage men to share a little less of themselves in the city’s ever-crowded subways cars.

The targets of the campaign, those men who spread their legs wide, into a sort of V-shaped slouch, effectively occupying two, sometimes even three, seats are not hard to find. Whether they will heed the new ads is another question.

That was not an Onion article. That is not a spoof or (intentional) satire. That was the New York Fucking Times.

I can’t even.


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82 Responses to The Horror of Manspreading

  1. The Klown says:

    • The Klown says:

      The manspreading complaint is couched as a response to “rudeness” by men, but it is no such thing: it is pathetic feminist pipsqueakery, the last dying gasp of a movement with nothing to win and nothing to say, determined to abuse and antagonise the male sex at all costs and for whatever perceived or outright imaginary infraction it can conjure from the vicissitudes of everyday life. It is offensively trivial, and those associated with it ought to be ashamed.

      Such people include the author of a New York Times story on this otiose playground jihad against men, and the subway officials who endorsed a poster campaign warning men of the social anxiety caused by their choice of sitting position. Not a word about those shopping bags, or–the real irritant for me, on the rare occasion I take the Tube–stilettoes digging into the back of my heels and capacious handbags clogging the gangways.

      Is it any wonder women these days complain of being alone? They mistake their own, self-induced isolation as the inevitable consequence of patriarchy, not realising that their generation has spent a decade doing everything possible to isolate and alienate men. There has been an understandably obnoxious response from men on this topic precisely because it is so trivial: it represents everything wrong with the prevailing feminised public consensus.

      A survey last year revealed that fewer than one in five women now identifies herself as a feminist. Little wonder, and all our experiences confirm the fact. I asked my own mother a few days ago whether she was one and the response was positively volcanic. Feminism is a poisoned term. It is tainted; stained by the petty misandrist misdeeds of a thousand spoilt brats on the pages of the Guardian; an army of Jessica Valentis whinging about wrapping Christmas presents instead of objecting to the acid thrown in Indian women’s faces.

      Feminism is dead: feminists killed it.

  2. HELENK3 says:

    FOX just announced that Joe Cocker died

    • The Klown says:

      That’s a shame. RIP

    • leslie says:

      I’m on my phone so won’t be available to respond for a while. I am a daily commuter who uses both the RTA and the CTA. I agree that ” manspreading” is rude and is a consistent problem on both forms of transportation. My commute is sometimes 4hrs of my workday in which I many times put in ~10 hrs. I’d really like to be able to sit at the very least on my way home. But often three seats are taken up by 2 men who spread their legs, knees, elbows and laptops all the hell over the place. I’ve asked to sit; I’ve excused myself; and often I’ve ended up standing or even sitting on the stairs. Train conductors behave as if the “spread” is the norm. To add insult to injury, my age alone should be the basis of giving me a place to sit. I have seen these same creatures sit while a really older person with obvious handicaps stands. The Metra is only a little bit better than the el. But even last week some dude who hadn’t bought a Metra ticket, boarded thevtrsin and took up 4 seats with his body and carry on stuff. When he didn’t have enough money for the ticket, they not only let him ride, which seemed a lovely gesture, they said NOTHING of the space he had taken up. I suppose the recent racial tension in this country contributed to “overlooking” his abuse of space. But it was still the tail end of rush hour and people were left standing. Two separate issues, I know. But I’m limited for time and wanted to get this all in before my phone runs out of power.

      • leslie says:

        ^Nested incorrectly.^

        I do want to acknowledge Joe Cocker’s passing. May he RIP.

      • The Klown says:

        What you’re talking about is just generic rudeness. No one should take up more space than they need on a crowded bus or train. People that are young and fit should give up their seats for people less able to stand. It is chivalry not chauvinism for men to give up their seats to ladies.

        • leslie says:

          Absolutely it’s rudeness. Women do something similar, but not with their legs (usually) but I’ve thought about doing it more than once. The other “trick” they use I setting their asses(cracks) on the crack between 2 seats this taking up 2 seats anyway. I guess they are sooooo very important at work they think they deserve more than one seat on the train. I freaking loathe those guys. Yes, rudeness and sense of entitlement.

      • fernschild says:

        This is not a new problem. Used to happen in my car. My son would ride in front and do the splay thing and interfere with my ability to use the shift. When I commented he informed me that guys are different than girls and need some room. To the never-ending amusement of his sister and future brother-in-law in the back seat, I replied “So is that a mighty Redwood you’ve got between your legs? Here I was thinking it was one #2 lead pencil”. He was instantly put in his place and I forevermore had all the room I needed to drive. Probably not a line you’d use on a stranger using public trans, though.

      • WMCB says:

        People who take up more space than they need, when others are seeking a seat, are just rude. It’s not a male thing, though. There is a woman with a giant purse for every man who feels more comfortable “spreading.” Can he be nice and scootch it in a bit if someone else needs a seat? Sure. Just as she can put her ginormo purse on her lap.

        And yes, most men are more comfortable sitting with spread legs. Not because OMG IT’s HUGE, but because the pelvis is constructed differently. And also because men have social signals re: status that are not the same as women’s. Women signal their status in-group in other ways. No one shits all over their mannerisms – and yes, women have them.

        Shaming men for unconsciously sitting in the way most comfortable for them, whether physically or psychologically, is petty misandry, and wrong..

      • votermom says:

        The best revenge for seat hoggers on the subway is to stand next to them and let loose a silent but deadly fart aimed right for their face.
        Bonus points if you stare accusingly at them too.

  3. angienc says:

    Good thing phones are smart because people are stupid

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Crap, your link is behind the NYT paywall. It’s why I use Gothamist links here before NYT plagerizes them, or the NYP, OR the NYDN. The Manspreading article tipped me off, it was the counter-culture Gothamist who ran that article about a month ago. I really do hate the MSM.

  5. The Klown says:

  6. The Klown says:

    They still have over a week left. That’s enough time for at least 10 more fails.

  7. HELENK3 says:

    David Burge @iowahawkblog · 4h 4 hours ago

    Santa is a Democrat. You buy the presents, he takes the credit for them.
    0 replies 326 retweets 256 favorites

    • Propertius says:

      I’m really sorry that Iowahawk seems to be spending all of his time on Twitter these days. He really was a master of long-form political humor/satire – one of the best I can recall.

      Any idiot can write 140 characters of snark – twitter is a waste of his considerable talents.

  8. John Denney says:

    Sociopathy is rooted in the concept that, “There’s nothing more important than getting what I want, regardless of the impact on others.”

    It’s the opposite of, “not my will, but Thy will be done.” His will? Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love the Lord, and the second was to love one another.

  9. Falstaff says:

    As annoying as this is, it pales in comparison to the 300+ lb fatsos who routinely take up multiple seats. At least you can yell at the “manspreaders” to give you some room, but there’s not much to be done about the fatties. It’s especially annoying on an airplane. Being wedged in against a massive glob of blubber for a multiple-hour flight is a modern form of torture. Weren’t airlines going to start charging the fatsos extra at some point?

    • The Klown says:

      We don’t like being jammed up against you skinny fuckers either.

    • leslie says:

      If you think it’s an inconvenience to you, I’d like you to think of the humiliation, intolerance, and self-loathing those 300lb “fatsos” experience every time they step out the door, get up in the morning, see their reflections in windows, mirrors, doors and the eyes of people who look at them degradingly. I know several people who fit your description and none of them – not one – wants to be who they are or look the way they look.
      And, FYI: we pay for two seats for my daughter who would be dead today without the medications that have cost her her beauty and her healthy-looking body. We do it on trains on planes at entertainment venues. I think of her as a hero because she suffers those looks, insults and degrading remarks every time she steps outside and yet, she takes a breath and tries to hole her head up every day. Massive glob of fat and all.

      • DandyTIger says:

        {{leslie}}. That’s rough. And whether people are in that position because of medical conditions or that’s just the way they are, it doesn’t matter. There is no excuse for the bigotry she’s experiencing.

      • votermom says:


        Give your daughter a big hug from me!

        • leslie says:

          Thanks, you guys. It breaks my heart, and there is bloody little I can do about it. Major surgery will only put a greater strain on her health and won’t help longer than it will take for the weight to return. 😦
          I just returned from Christmas shopping and was looking for something pretty for her to help her feel better, but even jewelry is difficult because of her allergies I did find a beautiful scarf, though. I hope she likes it or I’m keeping it. 😉

      • DeniseVB says:

        {{leslie}} from Special Greg and me. Add to that episodic rage issues, even his older bro, the air marshall told me, Mom, don’t fly with Greg, if he rages at 35k feet, we’d have to kill him. Sigh. SG could flip a plane on one of his ragey things. No way. He does like train and car travel though.

        • leslie says:

          {{Denise}} Thanks. That rage stuff is tough. It sounds like your older son has a sense of humor and it really helps, doesn’t it?
          When this (my younger) daughter was very young until about 8yrs, I used to have to leave places when she became out of control. Behavior training was of no value and her brother and sister – both older were – jealous at first because of the “special attention” she received. Then they became irritated when it had greater impact on them, and I had 3 angry kids instead of just 1. I’m still *shaking my head* at some of the stories I could tell. lol.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I do think my kids became better people because of Special Greg. Oh wait, it was because I nailed the Catholic Martydom and sent them forth at 17, college and whatev, don’t come home. It worked. Though not sure how cool my old age will be if they’re in charge…….. 😉

      • WMCB says:

        I don’t understand deliberately cruel people. I just don’t.

      • lyn says:

        {{Leslie}} Your words are so true. When you see your daughter, please give her a hug from me. ❤

    • DandyTIger says:

      Holy crap dude, that pretty fucked up.

  10. The Klown says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Perfectly represents the insanity that is Salon. I’m going to guess the Salon spoof twitter account will just echo the same thing. Just can’t make that up.

    • Somebody says:

      OMG…..or O holy shit or something…..the people at Salon are truly deranged. I think perhaps they are all mental patients that escaped or were released due to lack of insurance or something.

  11. DeniseVB says:

    I rest my case, how will the NYT cover this ass…..?? Pretty Please, Give Me a Do-Over ? Too late, too damn late……………

  12. Lulu says:

    Who put the fear of god into de Blasio? Did he have a brain transplant before this press conference?

    • Lulu says:

      He is crayfishing as hard as he can, the media is on his ass, and the old police commissioner has his arms crossed. No body believes him.

  13. WMCB says:

    Stupid protestors shutting down roads again today in Milwaukee.

  14. The Klown says:

    This person blocked me just now:

  15. DeniseVB says:

    OMG, just found out about this……quick background, my former anarchist, now business owner fiscal conservative, atheist, now recovering addict dd joined this church as part of her recovery for their awesome support network…..

    • WMCB says:

      I know a few atheists/agnostics who value religion for its social benefit, even though are not beleivers.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Yes, DD found not religion, but unconditional support and love, well kinda religion. I enjoy this journey with her. When I visit NYC, I always make one Mass at St. Patrick’s, take communion and dare God to strike me dead. I’m still here 😉

        • mothy6767 says:

          I grew up with some serious religion. I fled it for years. I don’t think the Red Sea was opened up I don’t believe Lazuras rose from the dead I do feel my childhood exposure demands I take responsibility for my actions. Prayer is not please God let the Penguins win the Stanley Cup. It is self reflection often is not easy you face real questions about your self. I am a mess and have no room to judge anyone my mistakes number in the thousands I have friends that use grindr and Craig’s list to have anonymous sex every night. I can not do that I feel empty and dirty. It is just not right for me doesn’t mean I can sit in judgement. I am pro life but I keep my opinions to myself. I find my religion brings me peace some look at and see fire and brimstone. I cannot comprehend what the world looks like through someone else’s eyes. I can only be responsible for the little bit of earth I occupy each day.

          • mothy6767 says:

            I try very hard to mind my own business but for some reason it became open season on Catholics a few years back I would never approach a stranger and attack for some reason it is okay for progressives to go all out. They never listen just keep screaming about priests and little boys they will discuss nothing just rabid attacks. Thing that strikes me most is the complete lack of respect. So rude. Never give you a chance to explain yourself but hurl insults and walk away feeling smug.funny they scoff at religion but dwell in this fantasy world run by straight white ogre men that spend all day oppressing everyone else.

          • The Klown says:

            I’m not defending pedophile priests or the way the Catholic church dealt with the problem, but when you consider the actual number of problem priests and the size of the Catholic priesthood, it was only a small percentage of the whole. We have pedophile teachers too, but nobody blames the entire education establishment for it.

          • WMCB says:

            It is no more common for a priest to be a pedophile than for a teacher or a coach or many other professions to be one. Are they horrible? Yes. But that sin is no more prevalent among priests than among others.

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