Here We Go Again – Another Fatal Police Shooting


Sigh. From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

Berkeley officer fatally shoots teenager

A Berkeley police officer fatally shot a suspect who pointed a gun at him late Tuesday, St. Louis County police said early today.

Police did not identify the person killed but Toni Martin, who was at the scene, said he was her 18-year-old son, Antonio Martin.

Several protesters also arrived at the scene shortly after the shooting. Many stayed overnight.

St. Louis County police said the incident started about 11:15 p.m. Tuesday as the Berkeley officer “was conducting a routine business check” at the Mobil gas station at 6800 North Hanley Road.

The officer saw two people outside the station, got out of his vehicle and approached them. One of the suspects pulled out a handgun.

“Fearing for his life, the Berkeley Officer fired several shots, striking the subject, fatally wounding him,” the release from the county police said. “The second subject fled the scene.”

Berkeley police requested that the county department’s Crimes Against Persons Unit handle the investigation of the shooting. Detectives “recovered the deceased subject’s handgun at the scene,” the release from county police said.

For at least two hours, the body remained on the parking lot just in front of the gas station as police investigated the shooting. Berkeley police cars were on either side. A Berkeley police car was later towed away.

The station appeared to have security cameras that are trained on the parking lot.

Toni Martin said her son was with his girlfriend at the time of the shooting. The girlfriend remained at the scene but declined to talk to a reporter.

Just after the shooting, several dozen people gathered outside the gas station, which was ringed by crime scene tape.

The crowd at the station included ministers and some of the people who have been active in the protests related to the fatal shooting of Michael Brown, 18, by a Ferguson police officer in August.

At one point, as some of the protesters grew rowdy, explosive flashes were set off. It was unclear by who.

Also, a QuikTrip store near the Mobil station was damaged by vandals before police officers closed access to it.

Merry fucking Christmas. The usual suspects are already trying to say Martin was unarmed and they accuse the police of not providing him medical aid before he died. Berkeley is about 2 miles from Ferguson.

I watched some of the livestream last night. It was about 4 am local time and there was a crowd of about 100 hanging around facing a bunch of cops who were surrounding the Mobil stastion. The cops looked bored and cold.

I’m sure Al Sharpton is already enroute. Vultures and other carrion eaters can sense death.

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  1. The Klown says:

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  4. The Klown says:


    BREAKING NEWS: ‘Armed’ black teenager shot dead by police close to scene where Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson sparking violent clashes
    Antonio Martin was shot and killed outside a gas station in St Louis
    The scene is three miles from where Michael Brown was shot in August
    Mr Martin’s mother Toni said her son was with his girlfriend last night
    He was killed by a police officer outside a Mobil gas station
    St Louis County Police claim Mr Martin pointed a gun at officers
    Detectives investigating the shooting claim to have recovered a firearm
    Protesters at the scene claim police failed to call for an ambulance

    Why is “armed” in quotes?

    • Lulu says:

      He had a squirt gun? It was his uncle’s cigarette lighter from the 1950’s? No editing for an online (fun to read) rag?

      If there is video tape I hope they release it today. What kind of idiot jerks out his piece when a cop drives up? Did he (the dumbass) have zero impulse control? Did he think a shootout on a city street at a gas station was a good idea? We have to start saying it. The people who do this kind of thing are extraordinarily stupid and all the special rules in the world, like killing due process and doing away with the basic human right of self defense, is not going to save someone who is so dumb that they pull a gun on a armed cop. You cannot protect every moron from themselves. It is not possible. And just because they are too stupid to go by societies rules doesn’t mean the rest of us must be endangered oe put up with them. As I keep saying cause and effect is difficult for many people. Pull a gun, beat someone in the head, and they do their damnedest to try to kill you back first. It is instinct. Learn it. Teach it to your dumb kids.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Why didn’t the protestors call an ambulance ? Oh wait, too busy using their phones to film themselves πŸ˜‰

  5. The Klown says:

    • leslie says:

      You know, at least the administration sent someone to the funerals. It’s okay by me that it wasn’t the asshole in chief. In fact, I’d rather he not go anywhere except the golf course so the rest of the f*ckers can see what a self centered jerk he is.
      (and no, I did not go to the link. I have gift wrapping to do.)

      • Lulu says:

        I think the surviving family should be able to pick from a list of government officials that they WANT to come to the funeral. Like a check off or something. Nope not him, he’s OK I guess, I am not looking at her SCOWLING mug at my father’s funeral, etc.

        • Constance says:

          Great idea. If I had to tolerate Obama at a family funeral I couldn’t make it through the event. Thankfully I come from a weird family where we cremate our loved ones then wait a month or two until we can better cope then have a get together of loved ones for burial or spreading of ashes and a big meal and memory fest. By the time we hold the memorial the people who aren’t close have moved on.

          • sleepyhead says:

            My family does the same, Constance. We grieve quietly and then celebrate the loved one’s life when we are ready with a big meal, photos, and reminiscences. Lots of tears but also lots of laughter. It feels right to do it that way, without a bunch of onlookers.

        • leslie says:

          same as above.

  6. The Klown says:

    This was gonna be the original topic of my post this morning:

    Short version: It’s bullshit

    • leslie says:

      Thanks. I’mma take this graph to Christmas brunch and show those loony tunes relatives just what this “good” economy looks like. We just had 2 potential patients back out of treatment because their co-pays were so large that it made treatment for them unaffordable. Both are employed and on medical leave from their full-time jobs and still could not afford the co-pays.
      (and neither could I if I had their insurance)
      death panels

      • Constance says:

        I think they are going to push a lot of people into self insuring. If Republicans win the Presidency in 2016 they will at least make self insuring more of an option for citizens. I somehow doubt they will cut their corporate masters in the health industry off the Obama care gravy train.

    • Lulu says:

      I knew this yesterday. What I want to know is why it didn’t show up in earlier quarterly stats? Let 2014 be known as the year that everyone started being broke-ass because of Obamacare. 2015 can be Democrat’s Obamacare Broke-Ass Recession. My eldest just got a huge contract for software and sys admin work with a health insurance company so I know who the hell is getting rich off of this shit.

    • fif says:

      I figured. I knew there had to be a rational explanation. They are trying to revive O once again after his mid-term debacle.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    I believe Al Sharpton has finally jumped the shark and has become the new Fred Phelps and A.N.S.W.E.R. is his Westboro church followers. It’s all so neatly packaged as free speech while they’re raking in bundles of money off outrage.

    The Biggest Loser seems to be DeBlasio, he’s lost the respect of the NYPD AND control of his street urchins who basically told him to f-off for asking for them to dial it back a bit. Now they’re bigger and more obnoxious than ever.

    The fauxrage over the latest shooting of an ARMED teenager is a hoot. It’s almost as though the dimwits want to legalize pointing guns at police because black or something ? Jackasses.

    • leslie says:


    • The Klown says:

      The old Civil Rights leaders understood visuals. They made a stand with Rosa Parks because she was a sympathetic figure. They had other options but they chose her.

      They wore dress shirts and ties. They didn’t yell, riot, burn things, or make rude signs. The marched peacefully, and didn’t fight back when they were attacked. The pictures and videos of cops beating peaceful marchers is what won public opinion for them.

      These current protesters act like they want people to hate them. They are personifying all the worst stereotypes.

      They’re fucking idiots.

      • DeniseVB says:

        The era of MLK targeted their grievances at the politicians too, not the police. Those snarly dogs and fire hoses in the “bad” visuals were ordered by the higher ups. I believe Democrats at the time πŸ˜‰

        What we have now is Westboro mentality meets the Weather Underground. These are very angry people goaded by very rich and powerful people. We all know they want “dead cops” , then what? So they can run the city, keep it safe ? I get the feeling these people blocking roads and bridges are simply Crips and Bloods rejects. Like OWS, nothing burgers with cell phones and iPads.

    • Constance says:

      New Years Eve in New York should be a disaster. Normal people will be afraid to be out, the nutcases should be everywhere and they will have to have police guarding each others backs.
      Frankly I’m sick of hearing a bunch of vapid unruly jerks call me racist. I also bristle at any and all liberal affectations. You know what I mean, the question talking(I woke up this morning?, I ate breakfast?) the head wagging, the slow talking to enable word parsing, it all makes me want to run and puke.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I did the NYC Eve thing a fews years ago for my Bucket List. Not worth it. Even though we headed to the security area for entrance to the cowpens 6 hours before midnight, we couldn’t get closer than Central Park South/Carnegie Hall. We couldn’t eat or drink anything either, no bathrooms and if you left your “pen” you couldn’t return. All side streets are closed and lined with police and their barricades. You just stand there for hours doing nothing. Definitely not the Rockin’ Eve experience you see on t.v. More like surviving a coup in a third world country.

        Let’s see the snowflakes survive that πŸ˜‰

  8. leslie says:

    OT~ I came here to wish everyone a MERRY CHRISTMAS !! πŸ™‚

    (I’m wrapping gifts and doing last minute food prep before tomorrow so I may return to read if there’s time later.)

    • Lulu says:

      Merry Christmas to you and yours! I set up a wrapping station and finished the gift wrapping Monday but left it all out for the straggler gift wrappers who flew in yesterday. There looks to be some very strange gifts being given tomorrow around here. Oddball books, weird candy, and tartan scarves as I set a spending limit on everyone.

  9. elliesmom says:

    It’s around 8:30 here in Beantown. I have a ham to bake and filling for a coconut cream pie to cook. Then I have to stop at the store to get more doggie gifts. Ellie had fun finding all the ones I had wrapped for the “pet family”. Then off to my son’s house for Christmas Eve dinner. Mr. Yen at the local Chinese restaurant is “catering” Christmas dinner, which will be followed by the traditional chocolate mousse trifle. The grandkids will need to be on their best behavior tonight, but we’re just going to plow through the gifts here tomorrow. Just us, them and their folks so no rules apply. Tonight we’ll all sit in a circle and take turns. Their aunt will see how well that works with a 3 year old. Some people get it right when they decide not to have kids. πŸ˜‰

    • Lulu says:

      I have a Christmas morning gift ripping open video of my eldest opening his ping pong ball gun given by his grandfather (my f-i-l) that he promptly uses to shoot his grandfather in the face. He was three. I was pregnant and nearly passed out laughing. I think that was also the year he pulled a ham off the kitchen counter into the kitchen floor and it slid into the foyer through the dining room. Our son did it not my father in law. Good times.

  10. The Klown says:

    The cops probably planted it there.

  11. The Klown says:

  12. Kathy says:

    Merry Christmas to all ! My husband and I, for the first time in our lives, told our oldest yesterday to not pay a bill. The one who lives in Jersey called yesterday upset that she had gotten a five hundred dollar bill for throat surgery and she didn’t have throat surgery. the dr. looked at her throat She called her ins. co. and they told her it was the arrangement they had with that doctor. She told them what happened and they aren’t budging. She doesn’t want to ruin her credit rating but we told her too bad and don’t pay it–what a mess.

    • piper says:

      I agree as this would come out of her pocket not insurance company which is colluded with the dr.

    • lildoggy4u says:

      I had the same thing happen. A billing company took my doctor’s notes and billed , billed billed. One code was for a cancer treatment and I don’t have cancer. Everything was coded but I know coding so I looked it all up. When I called them they just read me the doctor’s notes and said “do you remember this?” I said yes, but I do not have cancer and that code is for a cancer treatment and only a cancer treatment. I’m going to court.

  13. DandyTIger says:

    The good news, the new left is no longer pretending to be for America, civilization, fairness, equality, or anything good or positive. They are (government dependent) revolutionaries who want to kill the police and the military and anyone not in their cult. They are not capable of holding a rational conversation. They are lost.

  14. fif says:

    They have created this climate and now everyone with a grievance is going to distort the facts to serve their own agenda. Congratulations Obama, Holder, Sharpton et. al. You want a war – you’ve got one.

    • Constance says:

      Yeah, I’m not big on war but I prefer Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to Obama/Sharpton/Holder’s civil war.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Can you imagine if Obama were President Sept 11, 2001 ? DeBlasio NYC Mayor ?

        • piper says:

          We’d be apologizing to the Islamics and asking how we could make it better for them. Confession time – I voted for Al Gore (hey we’re all entitled to making mistakes but I want everyone to know that I didn’t ever vote for Jimmieh even though I was a dem at that time) – can you imagine Gore as president on 9/11.

          • Somebody says:

            Gore would have found a way to blame it on global warming and carbon credit would have been the fix.

  15. DandyTIger says:

    Merry Christmas!! everyone.

  16. Constance says:

    Signing off to start cooking, Merry Christmas everyone. I recommend not watching the news for a few happy days!

  17. The Klown says:

  18. piper says:

    Wishing everyone a joyous Christmas. My advice – stay away from gas stations and indulge only at the yummy food-laden tables.

  19. Mary says:

    Merry Christmas to all!

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Merry Christmas to all ! Just to get this in before everyone scatters for their friends and families fun holiday time of it ❀

    We're totally de-stressed, so I'll be around through the holidays to kvetch with the best of you. If Sharpton and his band of jackals won't rest, neither will I !!

  21. HELENK3 says:

    some want to know why the cop didn’t use pepper spray on a guy pointing a real gun at him.

  22. WMCB says:

    You’re never going to get yourself any “privilege” if you continue to insist that “acting white” is a bad bad thing.

    • lyn says:

      Word. (That’s too deep for the haters.)

      • DeniseVB says:


      • WMCB says:

        I’m tired of ppl railing against the advantages of the white man while simultaneously sneering at all the behaviors and cultural norms that CREATED that advantage.

        Want privilege? Go get some, by behaving in the ways that create it.

        • piper says:

          Thomas Sowell wrote
          “Many in the media and among the intelligentsia cherish the romantic tale of an β€œus” against β€œthem” struggle of beleaguered ghetto blacks defending themselves against the aggression of white policemen. The gullible include both whites who don’t know what they are talking about and blacks who don’t know what they are talking about either, because they never grew up in a ghetto. Among the latter are the President of the United States and his attorney general.

          Such people readily buy the story that ghetto social problems today β€” from children being raised without a father to runaway rates of murder β€” are β€œa legacy of slavery,” even though such social problems were nowhere near as severe in the first half of the 20th century as they became in the second half.
          Read the rest at

        • WMCB says:

          Almost every people on earth have been under the boot at some point. Britian used to be full of filthy barbarian Celts that Rome oppressed. Then the boot was removed, and they made an empire. What they didn’t do was spend the next 500 years whining about how Rome owed them some privilege. If they had, there would not be a UK today.

          I’m all for removing the boot. Guess what? In America, WE HAVE. Everyone is legally equal. Go do something with that equality.

  23. WMCB says:

  24. The Klown says:

    One thing I am sick of hearing about is how terribly racist the criminal justice system is. They don’t come out and say it explicitly but they insinuate that all those black guys in prison are there because they are black.

    No, they are there because THEY COMMITTED CRIMES.

    Even the bad cops don’t stop black men at random and just make up crimes to charge them with. There is statistical data that some people believe that cops are more likely to stop black drivers than white drivers. Maybe, but if you are a black man driving in a black neighborhood and you get pulled over, it wasn’t because you are black. Almost everybody in that neighborhood is black.

    So why did the cops pick you? Probably it had something to do with the way you are driving, or maybe it’s the car you are in. Does your car have valid registration and do all the lights work properly? Are you driving a plain 4-dr sedan or a pimped out ride? Are you dressed like a gangster or in work clothes?

    If you get busted for dealing crack, don’t blame racism when you get hit with a harsh penalty. You shouldn’t have been dealing crack in the first place.

    If you make a lot of bad decisions in your life, chances are a lot of bad things will happen to you. If you make good decisions, you’ll probably get good results. It ain’t rocket science.

  25. foxyladi14 says:

    Wishing a very happy and Merry Christmas to all that visit here at the CDH. πŸ˜€

  26. The Klown says:

    My kitties think they are Hobbits. They want first and second breakfast, and elevenses, then lunch, followed by a mid-afternoon snack. Dinner around 5 or 6, then a mid-evening bite to eat, and then fourth meal.

    Last but not least, a bedtime snack. And don’t forget a midnight snack too.

  27. Kathy says:

    I have a fifteen year old cat and he constantly checks the bowl. He gets plenty of food–maybe it’s being dependent on people for food ? He’s more like a dog actually. He comes when you call him and follows me around the house.

  28. SHV says:

    Now the outrage is that the LEO fired THREE shots and Antonio never fired a shot.

    • Kathy says:

      These are stupid people–sorry, but it is true. Saw on TV that the mayor and chief of police are black. So “the commentators” are saying it is alright and justified. Pisses me off because that is discrimination against whites if they had been in charge,

  29. Kathy says:

    Oliver, my cat–given to us by daughter–long story–comes from a shelter in Miami….I’m guessing he was hungry early on and making up for it.

  30. The Klown says:

    Would anybody be interested in doing a dead pool next year? Pick ten celebrities you think will die in 2015 – whoever gets the most, wins.

    Another variation – a presidential candidate dead pool – guess who will run/not run

    2016 we can do a pool on when they will drop out.

    First prize: 1 year free subscription to TCH Plus.

  31. HELENK3 says:


  32. leslie says:

    My 4yo charmer of a grand daughter was here helping me to trim the tree and then make pizza on Sunday. She came running to me (while I was in the kitchen) and cried saying, “I’m afraid of the French! I’m afraid of the French!”
    I said, “Honey, we’re all afraid of the French.”
    Then I thought about it and wondered where this plaint came from, so I asked her to show me what she was afraid of.
    She took my hand and walked me back to the piano where a little stuffed “Grinch” was sitting. As she clasped my leg she pointed to it and said “I don’t like him. He’s mean. He steals things.”
    I taught her to say “GRINCH” on Sunday, right after I put the French Grinch away for the 2nd year in a row. Last year, when she was just 3, she just cried when she saw it. This year, she used her words – even though the words made me smile (after she left).

  33. WMCB says:

  34. swanspirit says:

    Merry Christmas Everyone!!!!!!

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