There’s Nothing Left To Talk About


Hot Air:

Politico: Why won’t Republicans talk about race as much as Democrats?

If the left has a single favorite topic of conversation, it is race. More specifically, issues relating to racial disparities in the United States.

They do not derive pleasure from pondering the progress the nation has made in a handful of generations, nor are they consumed with pride in their country’s progressivism on racial matters. They are propelled instead to heights of ecstasy only by ruminating on the real and persistent racial injustices in America, not to mention their roles as members of a tribe that regards itself as right-thinking on racial issues.

For conservatives, the opposite is largely the case. There is no joy in dwelling on (not synonymous with acknowledging) the nation’s dubious racial history or even its imperfect racial present. This may be why so many on the left have convinced themselves that conservatives no longer believe racism is a factor in modern life. When conservatives ranging from those on editorial boards to Supreme Court justices note that the racial inequities that prevailed in the 1960s are no longer applicable, they are accused of stipulating that racism itself is a defunct phenomenon. Curiously, this nuanced assessment of the state of race relations is not lost on the left when the same contention is made by a liberal, albeit an iconoclastic one, like linguistics professor John McWhorter.

The truth of it, one which the left finds hard to accept, is that many conservatives do not regard the nation’s perennial and unending “national conversation” on race to be especially productive. In fact, after 20 prolonged years of conversing, there is a fair bit of anecdotal evidence that suggests it has only helped to elevate to prominence the most unhelpful voices on racial issues. Even as the races move closer and closer to equality, those voices on both sides of the matter that believe gaps in outcomes along racial lines have only grown worse over the decades enjoy access to ever-larger microphones.

This inverse proportionality seems to have eluded Politico. In a recent report, Politico observed that the Republican Party is likely to field its most racially diverse set of presidential aspirants in 2016; from Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, to Ben Carson, to Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Marco Rubio (R-FL). In the next presidential cycle, the GOP will look a lot more like the America they are seeking to represent (to borrow a liberal admonishment) than will the Democratic Party. And yet, according to Politico‘s Katie Glueck and Tarini Parti, the party’s presidential hopefuls will decline to dwell on this fact.

They are all mulling over White House runs as the GOP continues to struggle with minority voters and as racial tensions over police conduct have captivated the nation.

But none is planning to play up his race or ethnicity in a presidential campaign, or even to stress the potentially historic nature of his candidacy. Instead, according to interviews with donors, strategists, aides and several of the possible candidates themselves, each is more likely to hit broader themes such as the American dream and the importance of hard work, which, for Jindal, Cruz and Rubio, would include nods to their parents’ immigrant experience.

Such messages would, in theory, have more universal appeal by stressing the commonalities of the American experience instead of its divisions — while also avoiding the identity politics that are toxic among GOP primary voters. It’s a tactic that may be welcomed as an expression of unity by some minorities, but it is already seen by others, especially advocates for immigrants, as dismissive of unique hardships facing their communities.

Politico’s reporters note that identity politics is “toxic” for GOP voters, but refrain from examining why that is the case. Republican primary voters are not awed by the “potentially historic nature” of any of these potential candidates, nor do they hunger for the self-validation they might derive from casting a ballot in their favor.

When a Democrat says “We need to talk” what they means is “I need to talk.” They aren’t interested in having a national conversation on race, they want to lecture and berate. Either way, there’s nothing left to talk about.

150 years ago we had a national conversation about slavery. Slavery lost. Blacks were freed, and we ratified a couple new amendments to the constitution that made slavery illegal and gave blacks citizenship and gave everybody the right to due process of law.

Then we spent the next 100 years talking about segregation and discrimination, and lynching, and the KKK and racism. We reached a consensus that all those things were bad and we shouldn’t do them anymore. That consensus is nowadays nearly unanimous.

When I was born there were places in this country where you could be openly racist and still win elections. That isn’t true anymore, and that is a good thing. So what is left to talk about? Nobody is trying to restore slavery or segregation. With the exception of a few social pariahs nobody is advocating or defending racism.

Of course “black lives matter.” Nobody is saying they don’t. That’s a slogan, not an issue. Seriously, we need to move on. We’ll never achieve a colorblind society if we keep obsessing about color.

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106 Responses to There’s Nothing Left To Talk About

  1. HELENK3 says:

    racism pays well in this country. Ask the al sharptons, the jessie jacksons, the rev wrights the obamas. they make a good living off it. al doesn’t even have to pay taxes.
    racism is used to divide and conquer and it works. Look the hatred that is spewing now. Keep blacks from learning self respect, and willingness to make a good life for themselves and tell them it is the whites that are keeping them down works There comes a point where you have to say to yourself I WANT A BETTER LIFE AND I NEED TO WAKE UP AND MAKE MY LIFE BETTER NOBODY BUT ME CAN DO THAT. until that happens racism will keep on paying well.

  2. Lulu says:

    In 2008 the country learned first hand that a “conversation on race” meant being called a racist. It was used to get one man elected, shut up all questions about his qualifications, policies, and any disagreement with him or the Democratic party. It is a classic poisoning the well strategy. It works ONCE. After that preemptive strike you know it is coming and avoid it. The reason the Republicans avoid “race” is because it doesn’t work anymore. People see it is a tactic rather than an issue because it has been so misused . It was a moral issue but now it is just a cheap political stunt.

    • lorac says:

      Part of the “conversation on race” would need to include the views of both sides, such as (1) the fact that all kinds of programs have been created for blacks to use to get ahead, but many choose not to, and (2) the serious problem of black violence (and that the narrative is that there is an epidemic of police killing blacks, when 94 % of blacks are killed by other blacks <– there's your epidemic), and including the rising number of black on white violence.

      The "white" side of the conversation would be called "racist", because it has to do with blacks taking responsibility for their own actions, their own lives. The left only wants to insist there is institutional racism, which there no longer is, but it's appealing to them because it makes whites the bad guys and takes the focus off of blacks' need to take responsibility for their own lives. The "white" side of the conversation would also be called "racist" because whites are feeling anger, disappointment, disgust, etc. But the left feels only blacks are allowed to have feelings.

      But I suspect Holder knows this, which is why he calls us "cowards" for not speaking out, but "racist" if we so much as try. He doesn't WANT to hear the other side. He wants the status quo, the narrative.

  3. Somebody says:

    It’s funny how all the conversations about race are one way. Apparently it’s just fine and dandy to be racist against whites and to discriminate against them because payback or because it somehow rights some past wrong. I’ve had just about enough of that myself and I’ve had enough of all the poor me, the white man is keeping me down shit too.

    I know, I know…..I’m racist…..yawn. As Lulu explained above that just doesn’t work anymore.

    I honestly think most of the racism out there is anti-white racism. I think the root cause of the anti-white sentiment from minorities leads back to the race hustlers. Perhaps I’m naive, but I honestly don’t think racism is a huge problem. I do know a couple of seniors that have said things that one would consider not PC, but I wouldn’t call them racist. You’ll never ever change the minds of everyone, unless you bring in the thought police. People will always make judgements about other people or situations based on their life experiences. By and large though, I think most people judge people on the content of their character rather than their skin color. That is especially true with each generation.

    I don’t know of anywhere in this country with institutional racism, except where there is reverse discrimination to right some percieved past wrong. I do think we have a problem in this country with people not rising out of poverty, but I think that problem exists in all races. I think we should have a conversation about that, about our national government dependency problem. We should ask why we have multiple generations that can’t seem to get ahead, multiple generations of all races, I might add. We need to have some conversations about our economy and opportunities for all of our citizens. We should make sure we have equality of opportunity, but shun anyone trying to push equality of outcome. We need to look at our social safety net, we need to have some conversations about it. I think we should revamp, we should make our safety net more of a hand up, instead of a hand out and a poverty trap. We need to revamp our economy too, a lot of our middle class jobs are gone, a good job is the best antidote to poverty. A lot of the other issues will work themselves out if we can resolve the economic issues.

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    • Constance says:

      I agree but not only are a lot of the good middle class jobs gone from our economy but I see many people my age replacing their good jobs with cash only or barter businesses and they aren’t paying income tax on this economic activity. They don’t make a lot of money but it’s enough if they don’t have to give a third of it to the government in taxes. I find it kind of ironic that the kids who run the new pot businesses are coming out from the shadows and paying huge amounts of taxes while the old folks who run legit businesses in baby sitting, home repair, organizing family photos, etc are doing it in the tax free shadows.

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  4. HELENK3 says:

    I just went to clown jail.
    posted my last comment a reply to the jet blue story and got put in jail. was it something I said?

  5. 1539days says:

    Republicans talk about race plenty. The problem is that what they say is not groveling enough. Republicans talk about how their party is more diverse and inclusive than ever. They talk about opportunity. Sometimes, they talk about how the Democrats were the party of slavery, how they tried to stop Lincoln and how they tried to stop segregation when Republicans were working for civil rights.

    The only conversation on race that’s acceptable now is an admission of guilt and giving in to a Sharpton shake down.

  6. Kathy says:

    The media finds catch words or phrases and just pounds on them. ‘We need to have a conversation’ is one that makes me turn off the television. The words ‘icon’ and the phrase ‘if you will’ are blathered on and on by them. It strikes me as condescending, as if they are trying to teach us –like we are a bunch of bumpkins.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Live coverage of the Ramos funeral… only holds about 800, but 25,000 cops from around the country showed up.

  8. piper says:

    IIRCC, the Dems current list of candidates is more white than white bread,
    JoeJoe Biden
    Hillary Clinton
    Jim Webb
    Elizabeth Warren and
    Bernie Sanders

    • Constance says:

      Are any of these people going to be under the age of 70 in 2016?

      • piper says:

        Joe B.- November 20, 1942
        Hillary – October 26, 1947
        Lizzy W. – June 22, 1949
        Jim W. – February 9, 1946
        Bernie S. – September 8, 1941

        Lizzy is the winner – she’s 65 today and will be 67 in 2016. Hillary is next – will be a young LOL 69 in 2016.

  9. piper says:

    Good to see you posting again. My heart goes out to you and your family. Sending prayers and healing thoughts.

  10. Constance says:

    “and as racial tensions over police conduct have captivated the nation.”
    Seriously, the writers of this article feel we are “captivated” by this topic? I guess that explains why they keep hitting it so hard. I consider the whole topic of police vs poor Innocent black boys who assault and steal a boring as hell made up problem. I want the police to protect me, my family and themselves from anyone who steals or assaults people.

    • piper says:

      I want this issue to be addressed on a national level – the killing of blacks by other blacks. I live north of Chicago and read about the weekly tragedies there.
      DH and I once walked thru the Science Museum neighborhood in the early evening and were stared at by both the residents and cops. Realizing our mistake we hurried back to the el and our hotel in the Loop. Visited the museum the next day during bright daylight hours.

      • leslie says:

        “Winter Wonderfest” at Navy Pier is now under attack by the “group of 100 or so teens”.
        This is a site that is costly to enter, but the pier itself is open to the public. I just heard on the radio that the police blocked the entrance to the pier while they tried to gain control of the “groups of teens”. Wwhen we start calling it mob terrorist action. Families will no longer attend these activities and it feels as if it’s an economic war against the city and taxpayers.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Black, white, green or orange. Arrest ’em all. If they resist, do it anyway. Period.

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  12. HELENK3 says:

    this has to be one of the saddest articles I have read in a long time. because it is true

  13. HELENK3 says:

    this is an interesting man. I would have loved to sit down and talk and listen to him

  14. HELENK3 says:

    this will be de blasio’s legacy.

    I do not remember any time that this has happened before. the anger of the police towards the mayor will not end as long as he is in office

    • 1539days says:

      At least he’s making David Dinkins look better by comparison.

    • Underwhelmed says:

      The thing is, I don’t understand how anyone could’ve thought the result of this man’s tenure could be any different. He’s a typical lefty fascist. It was all there. Just like it was all there with Obama.

      • votermom says:

        So this guy had a commie mom, and daddy issues. He changed his name to sound more ethnic. He got elected by progs.
        Am I talking about deBlasio or Obama?

        Trick question! I’m talking about both of them!

  15. Kathy says:

    I don’t either but I don’t blame them.

  16. swanspirit says:

    I want a Tee shirt that says :
    For an emergency, don’t call 911 , call a thug.
    Yeah I do , and of course someone will call me racist . Yawn.

  17. HELENK3 says:

    there is something mentally wrong with this twit.
    but if she ever needs a cop, they will come to protect her. that is how they roll. her thug heroes would most likely knock her down and rob her before helping her

    • swanspirit says:

      There are no thug heroes, just thugs . We can talk about rape culture, cop culture, the culture of violence , but don’t you talk about thug culture or gangsta culture , you rabid racists !!!

  18. DeniseVB says:

    Great rant about A.N.S.W.E.R. on Michael Ramirez’s FB page along with another great cartoon.

  19. Myiq2xu says:

    A little bit ago I blinked and my screen was blank. For that to happen the computer has to sit idle for 15 minutes, then another 15 minutes while the screensaver is active. Then the monitor shuts off.

    I guess it’s gonna be one of those sleepy days.

  20. Myiq2xu says:

    Insane in the membrane:

  21. votermom says:

    Another OT question: anyone ever had an upper gi endoscopy? I’ve read the web descriptions of it, but I’m curious about what it’s like since you are awake for it.

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    This kitty will have more air miles than most of us combined. 🙂

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