Been There, Done That

This rant from Ace should sound familiar to those of us who are former Democrats:

Glenn Beck: I’m Done With the GOP

Allah keeps chortling, saying, “No you guys will be back,” but I don’t think he understands.

Something has changed.

No, we won’t be back. Not in the way he means it. If AllahPundit means that I, for example, will still prefer a more conservative president over a less conservative one, sure, of course, but then, Communists preferred the more liberal Bill Clinton over the less liberal George Bush, without actually supporting the Democratic Party with anything stronger than a velleity.

In 2014, the Establishment went all out to defeat its foes not just on the electoral battlefield, but in the battlefield of the mind as well. They wanted to teach the upstarts a lesson: You have not only lost, but you will always lose; you will not be permitted to win, ever. The entire Party will rise up to crush you should you signal any intention of bucking our Rule.

I warned them about something then: A hopeless soldier is a soldier who will desert the field.

Yes, Establishment GOP, you can teach us that you will always lie to us, stab us in the back, humiliate us and crush us; but if you teach us that, be aware we are learning another lesson, too. Not just that “The Establishment Will Always Crush You,” but the lesson that There is no hope in any kind of conventional politics for those of us who want better than this Pile of Shit the two parties give us.

You can deal someone a defeat, but you contend with hurricanes when you seek to kill all of their hopes as well.

I am now well and truly convinced of the Object Lesson our Establishment Masters sought to teach us last fall and this past winter:

They will lie to us, always, so that we cannot even have an argument about policy differences with them. We cannot explain to them why amnesty is a bad deal because they lie and claim that they are already against amnesty.

They will not even respect us enough to have the argument with us.

They will betray us constantly, because they think they can.

They think that our desire for a better America will draw us to vote for the Least Worst candidates.

But many of us now feel like the Communists, or the hardcore paleocons: There really is not a large enough difference between the two parties any more to bother oneself in terms of emotional and financial investment any longer.


This party has betrayed me for the last time.

Change the names of the parties and a few details and I could have written that six years ago.

But wait! There’s more!

I know very few of you believe the GOP has much intention of repealing Obamacare, but, being a Republican, I have previously felt the need to present The Official Party Position even knowing it was total bullshit.

I’ve known it was a lie for a year, which is why I hate when it comes up on, say, the Podcast. What am I supposed to say? Am I supposed to pretend the GOP is going to repeal it?

So they’re not. They never were.

It was always a lie. To get you to vote for them. We lose on the issue, so then we Have The Issue to run on.

You may have noticed that I haven’t said anything about Obamacare lately. That’s because I realized what Ace just said – it’s not going to be repealed. If the King v. Burwell SCOTUS decision that is coming up in a few months goes against Obama then Congress will fix it.

Obamacare is here to stay.

That doesn’t change my opinion of Obamacare itself – it’s still a horrid program.

Now here’s a couple other things that go with this post:

Mickey Kaus quits Daily Caller after Tucker Carlson pulls critical Fox News column

The blogger Mickey Kaus has quit his job at The Daily Caller after the conservative site’s editor-in-chief, Tucker Carlson, pulled a critical column about Fox News from the site, Kaus told the On Media blog on Tuesday.

“It’s pretty simple,” Kaus said in an interview, “I wrote a piece attacking Fox for not being the opposition on immigration and amnesty — for filling up the airwaves with reports on ISIS and terrorism, and not fulfilling their responsibility of being the opposition on amnesty and immigration…. I posted it at 6:30 in the morning. When I got up, Tucker had taken it down. He said, ‘We can’t trash Fox on the site. I work there.'”

Carlson, who co-founded The Daily Caller in 2010, is a conservative contributor to Fox News and the host of its weekend edition of “Fox & Friends.”

Kaus says when he told Carlson he needed to be able to write about Fox, Carlson told him it was a hard-and-fast rule, and non-negotiable.

This is an excerpt from the post that was pulled by Carlson:

I sense a pattern! For this entire period, Kelly File was basically ISIS and Terror, with a few off-lead excursions into the DHS funding fight, usually when absolutely necessary (as when a federal judge blocked Obama’s executive action). Even some discussions of the federal court decision failed to mention the parallel Congressional funding fight. In fact, immigration was discussed as the underlying issue in the funding fight only 6 times over the whole 34 show period — and only 3 times in the crucial 20 show period that followed the Senate Dems’ initial filibuster of the Republican DHS proposal. These were the weeks when anti-amnesty organizations were desperate for some outfit like FOX to apply pressure on possibly wavering Senate Dems. Instead they got more ISIS. I would suggest that the near-exclusive obsession with Middle Eastern terror is difficult to justify by the inherent news value of the subject, let alone its value to Fox viewers. You’d think the network would want to take a break if only for variety’s sake.

The semi-hysterical focus on ISIS in itself played into Obama’s hands, of course, since the Democrats’ were making a ‘how-can-you-shut-down-Homeland-Security-with-all-this-horrible-terror’ argument. Technically, Democrats were the ones blocking a Homeland Security funding bill with a filibuster– but FOX was not about to emphasize that. “Filibuster” was mentioned only 2 times on Kelly File during this whole 48-day period (three if you count Senator Lee’s attack on “obstruction”). It was mentioned only 17 times on the entire Fox News Channel (plus nine uses of the word in relation to other issues, such as Keystone or Iran sanctions, or general chat show pundit-to-pundit admonitions to stop “filibustering”).

This isn’t what actual coverage designed to alert and inform opposition to Obama on the issue would look like. It would be more like: “Good Evening. Day 7 of the Democratic filibuster of Homeland Security Funding … ”

Even if Fox had done that, Republicans wouldn’t have succeeded in blocking the executive amnesty. Obama could have vetoed any bill they got to his desk, and the votes aren’t there for an override. The best the anti-amnesty side could realistically have hoped for would have been some embarrassing defections by Democratic senators like Donnelly, Manchin, Heitkamp and McCaskill (who in fact defected on one procedural vote). As Frank Sharry of pro-amnesty advocacy group America’s Voice pointed out, even a few key-vote defections would have punctured the Democrats self-presentation as a unified pro-legalization brand, and made opposition to executive amnesty bipartisan.

Ruprecht Murdoch owns Fox News. Ruprecht Murdoch is a member of the GOP establishment (GOPE). Ruprecht Murdoch is pro-immigration reform and pro-amnesty. The GOPE is pro-immigration reform and pro-amnesty. The GOP voters strongly oppose immigration reform and amnesty.

Guess what? If the GOPE isn’t stopped, we’re getting immigration reform and amnesty. Somehow those tricky Democrats will force the GOP majority in Congress to pass it, then Obama will sign it.

This is kabuki theater, and I saw this show before back when I was a loyal Democrat. The people I supported would say all the right things, wave their arms, fight the good fight, and LOSE.

Losing was the plan.




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86 Responses to Been There, Done That

  1. Lulu says:

    I appreciate Kaus spilling the beans. Fox is doing exactly what the other networks did with Obama in 2008, that is being a personal shill for their corporate owners and their interests rather than their viewers. If they want to follow the NBC business model they will start loosing money. It is Murdoch’s choice. I was already watching less Fox News because I am tired of the same old crap.

    • piper says:

      Same here even though I like Brett Baier. Refusing to watch any news program has reduced my blood pressure.

      • Lulu says:

        I think I am just bored with Fox. Each show has its little niche and they do the same “news” stories everyday. I got tired of Greta last year although my hubby still has it on I noticed he now mutes it. I am even bored with the Hammer of Kraut. I thought they were getting lazy and doing their thing by rote (less work!) but maybe old nasty Murdoch is behind it. And if I’m switching off (it was background noise often for me) others are doing it too.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          Even when the topic changes the format never does. They use a lot of the same experts all the time. Sometimes they appear on each other’s shows. The actual news content is low, because most of the time is spent talking ABOUT the news.

          I don’t watch them and I know this just from the clips that are posted online.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Welcome to the world of totally ignoring TV “news”. Because it isn’t. News. It’s views and opinion.
          You will thrive, surprisingly.

    • 1539days says:

      I only regularly watch “Red Eye” although I try to keep up with MediaBuzz. MediaBuzz is good because it tells you how bad the media is.

      Fox News has a legitimate reason not to talk about immigration. They’d lose sponsors and be called racists. It’s not a good reason, however.

      Remember, Lou Dobbs has been doing that stuff since the late 90’s. He eventually got booted from CNN. My guess is that the GOP will have to be decimated worse than in 2008 and the Tea Party will have to run independent candidates next time.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    It’s tough being fiscally conservative and socially liberal in an all or nothing political climate. I really don’t see a difference between the two major parties except turning EVERYTHING into a political maneuver. Meanwhile, the world is on fire while our Preezy diddles with his little grudges, hating his job but loving the perks. There’s nothing out there to inspire the nation that’s so divided we may as well be two countries….in a perpetual war. Thanks Obama, you suck gumballs.

  3. Dora says:

    From Tel Aviv to Turtle Bay

    The White House hoped a new Israeli prime minister would resume peace talks with the Palestinians. With Netanyahu holding on, the administration is weighing a turn to the U.N. to help force a deal.

  4. piper says:

    obama’s true feelings about Bibi

  5. piper says:

    Say it aint so
    From National Review:

    Krauthammer’s Take: ‘It’s Clear that Obama Loathes Netanyahu More than Any Other World Leader’

    “This was an election between Bibi and Obama — that was on the ballot,” he said on Wednesday’s Special Report. “He did everything he could to unseat him, but he failed.”

    Krauthammer criticized “the pettiness and the petulance” from the Obama administration regarding Netanyahu’s victory, which included a backhanded congratulatory statement and a delayed phone call from secretary of state John Kerry rather than President Obama. “I think the reaction of the administration is now reaching levels where it’s become unseemingly,” he said…

    “It’s clear that Obama loathes Netanyahu more than any other world leader, meaning more than the ayatollah in Iran or Putin in Russia.”

    • DandyTIger says:

      And the Obot tribe members have gotten the message. I’m seeing open hate towards Netanyahu and Israel from more on the left lately.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        Maybe the Jewish Democrats will finally wake up.

        • Lulu says:

          Israel wiped out by Persian nukes is pretty damned late to wake up. I guess the talk about smart Jews is just another myth. They don’t seem very smart to me. My one Jewish friend is a Republican and always has been but she is from Dallas.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Shirley, you jest!

          • 49erDweet says:

            Jewish voters have no control over how they vote. Their DNA produces myofibrils which can only pull Democrat labeled levers. It’s science.

          • lyn says:

            “Make no mistake, Obama will strike back hard. He is furious about Netanyahu’s unexpected victory. He will not allow the Israeli leader to have the final word. He will win at all costs. And that will have grave consequences for Israel.” There’s nothing like pissing off an empty suit or chair.

        • cynic says:

          Jeremy Bird, Obama’s ’08 & ’12 Deputy National Campaign Director, was over in Israel doing the hope and change bit and community organizing

          Just follow the usual actors, and the money. V15 (short for Victory 2015) is the group that was trying to oust Bibi. They were being funded by the group One Voice. Kerry’s State Dept. also funded One Voice.

          In ’03, one of OneVoice’s inaugural board advisers was Gary Gladstein. He used to be the chief operations officer of Soros Fund Management.

          In 2011 tax filings, One Voice paid $96,000 to Howard Sumka. Media reports show that Sumka was instrumental in providing $1 million in American funding to a Hamas-run university in the Gaza Strip.

  6. Dora says:

    There seems to be plenty of hatred out there. I’ve never heard of this woman. If she hates me I don’t really give a crap. I owe her nothing!

    Millionaire Rapper Says She “Hates Everything About” America, But Won’t Leave Because “Y’all Motherf*ckers Still Owe Me Reparations!”

    • DandyTIger says:

      Typical 1% elite liberal thinking. In the gated ivory towers, and still thinks “the government”, i.e., the peasants at the bottom, owe her.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Meanwhile our FLOTUS represents us in Japan. Love the photos which sort of scream Cirque du Soleil’s in town !

  8. 49erDweet says:

    Can I “Like” this post 10,000 times, please?

  9. elliesmom says:

    I’ve never thought either political party represented me so I haven’t been disillusioned there. My dad was a dyed in the wool Democrat, but I never understood why he thought they represented him. He thought the Republicans were the party of the rich, but all of the Democratic politicians I met through him were rich, too. Meeting Republicans was hard where I grew up so most of what I knew about Republicans came from what Democrats said about them. I didn’t believe all of that was true, but my decision was to just sit the political party thing out.

    But I have been sorely disillusioned by candidates, HIllary Clinton being the latest and the greatest. I put so much hope into her basket it’s been hard to recover. It’s been my dream to elect a woman president since I’ve been old enough to know there has never been one. I believed it was important for the first woman we elect to be a candidate who could have been elected totally on the merits so a woman candidate in the future could be judged on her merits alone, but I wasn’t so naive to believe that the historical nature of her candidacy shouldn’t be used. It galled me that once again women were being told to wait our turn to be historic. But now I don’t know what I think. Maybe Obama saved women from stepping on an IED. Maybe she would have been such a lousy president it would have hurt women more than helped us. I don’t see much progress happening for black Americans with an incompetent or dangerous or both black man in office.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Yep, 2008 changed everything. 2012 and 2014 too. We believed candidates were going to stop the madness of Obama’s partisan transformation of everything and they seem to be doubling down on the stupid. Somehow I can’t even trust the GOP candidates running as the anti-GOPE candidates this time.

      I’ve been following that Convention of States movement which I’m told is stupid, but the founding fathers did include that option in the Constitution should we face a tyrannical madman (aka Obama) and representation that enables him.

      I’m all for a woman president, but a qualified woman president. Just like that “historic” black guy we elected without vetting. Now to find out, even his MIL didn’t even like his “white half” (that’s a true story!)

    • 49erDweet says:

      I’d like to see a competent president. If she were also a woman, great. No prob. But Bozo’s incompetence and arrogance has set back race relations almost a century. Would not want to see that occur with gender relations, too, thank you very much.

      • elliesmom says:

        That’s how I’m feeling right now. I’d rather see a woman in the Vice President’s seat doing a wonderful job than a woman in the president’s seat mucking things up.

        • 49erDweet says:

          My best boss ever was a woman in charge of a state agency. She recognized a thing we were historically doing was stupid, and changed it. Three of the male bosses before her also saw the stupidity, but didn’t have enough huevos to change things. She coulda run the whole state and not break a sweat.

  10. HELENK3 says:

    does anyone know the real numbers of people that have left the democratic party and the republican party and have become independent in the last several elections?

    • leslie says:

      It may be difficult to figure the numbers out.
      For example, I “left” the Democratic party after bronco was elected, but I could only go to the Republican party. In Illinois there are 2 choices (perhaps 3 if the % of votes in the previous election were large enough to “allow” another party on the primary ballots). We have to request the ballot by designating the party affiliation. Most of the time, it’s either Dem or Rep ballots that are available. One year, the Green Party had a primary ballot and that was due to the percentage of votes the Green party received in the previous election. So now, because I requested a Republican ballot in the previous primary election, the Republican party is sending me questionnaires, and requests for donations as well.
      I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. And so the numbers in Illinois are skewed. (of course I am not dead either and therefor can’t vote anyway – but then I suppose, they would have me voting for the democrats.)
      There is no “independent” designation in Illinois.

      • swanspirit says:

        If you are registered independent in Maryland, you cannot vote in the Democratic or Republican primaries, which is so stupid, you should be able to vote in both. That would change the dynamics very quickly, being able to vote in both .

  11. HELENK3 says:

    this could get interesting adding independent voices to the debates

  12. Propertius says:

    Ruprecht Murdoch owns Fox News. Ruprecht Murdoch is a member of the GOP establishment (GOPE)

    And, paradoxically (not really) enough, also a major donor to the Democratic Party. Not quite as big a donor as he is to the GOP, but a major donor nevertheless. It’s about 51-49.

    He’s right about Obamacare, of course. The Republicans won’t repeal it for the same reason that they won’t push to overturn Roe v. Wade (even though they’ve had a majority on SCOTUS for years): it’s too useful as a fundraising tool. Both parties are run by professional political consultants, who make their living by raising money. They’re not about to do anything that might impair the revenue stream.

  13. Myiq2xu says:


  14. Dora says:

    I think they have lost their minds.

    Feminist Icon Gloria Steinem To Walk Across DMZ Into North Korea…

    Making a dramatic statement in Korean relations, Gloria Steinem and other prominent women on Wednesday announced their intention to walk across the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea to call for reunification.

  15. swanspirit says:

    Read the whole thing , it is so satisfying.

    For thousands of years the Jews dreamed of reclaiming their country. The left had another dream.

    It dreamed of a country run by bureaucrats that worked only three days a week. It dreamed of unions running monopolies that worked whenever they liked and charged whatever they wanted. It dreamed of children raised on collective farms without parents and of government as a Socialist café debate.

    Most of all it dreamed of a country without conservatives. It still hasn’t gotten that wish.

    Haifa and Tel Aviv are the only major cities in Israel that the left won in this election. And it was a close thing in traditionally “Red Haifa” whose union dockworkers these days are Middle Eastern Jews who vote right. The left took a quarter of the vote in Haifa to a fifth for Netanyahu’s conservative Likud party.

    In Tel Aviv however, the Labor coalition and Meretz, the two major leftist parties, took nearly half of the vote. Amos Oz’s daughter told Haaretz that everyone in the left had been upbeat because everyone they knew was voting for the left. Now the leftist elite is once again forced to come to terms with the tragedy that much of the country doesn’t want to hand over land to terrorists, live on a communal farm or turn over the country to Marc Rich’s lawyer and his American backers who make Slim-Fast and KIND bars.

    There are however days when they think Israel might be better off without certain parts of Tel Aviv.

    The left doesn’t want a country. It wants a Berkeley food co-op. It wants a city with some ugly modernist architecture. It wants a campus with courses on media studies and gender in geography. It wants an arcade where unwashed lefties can tunelessly strum John Lennon songs on their vintage guitars. It wants cafes with Russian Futurist prints on the walls. It wants to be about excited about political change.Its only use for Israel was as a utopian theme park. Its allegiance was not to Jewish history or democracy, but to its crackpot leftist fantasies. Now its fantasies are dead and it wants to kill Israel.

    The left spitefully alienated every immigrant group from Holocaust survivors to Middle Eastern Jews to Russian Jews. It also had slurs for each of them. The Holocaust survivors were ‘Sabon’ (soap) and the Middle Eastern Jewish refugees were ‘Chakhchakhim’. That particular slur at an election rally cost Peres and Labor the 1981 election. Another slur at an election rally now hurt the left and boosted Netanyahu….

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Uh, yesterday’s cable news ratings….

    Fox still kicks butt x3😉 It’s my go to background noise news channel afterall. I do like the new OAN channel, if you get it on your cable, check it out.

  17. Dora says:

    I was wondering why Obama hasn’t been seen at any basketball games.

    Obama’s fired brother-in-law left Oregon State basketball program a mess

  18. Myiq2xu says:

    I❤ Marco Rubio:

    (The action gets really good about 3 minutes in)

  19. angienc says:

    Art is supposed to evoke emotion — not necessarily pleasant emotion — disturbing emotion, shocking emotion, etc.
    Just like with the Piss Christ or the Maplethorpe S&M crap, right progs?

    • Myiq2xu says:

      AFAIK the taxpayers are not subsidizing his work and he is not in the employ of any candidate or party. OTT it doesn’t matter whether I (or you, or they) approve of his work.

      We can find something offensive and distasteful and still support the artist’s freedom of speech.

      These days I set a high bar for calling anything racist. AFAIAC there is a rebuttable presumption that things are NOT racist and it requires clear and convincing evidence to overcome.

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