Compare And Contrast

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is Somali-born feminist (the good kind) and political activist. He resume is impressive and her biography is compelling and inspiring. From Wiki:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Dutch: [aːˈjaːn ˈɦiːrsi ˈaːli] ( listen); born 13 November 1969) — birthname Ayaan Hirsi Magan Isse Guleid Ali Wai’ays Muhammad Ali Umar Osman Mahamud;[a] — is a Somali-born American (formerly Dutch) activist, writer, and politician. She is known for her views critical of female genital mutilation and Islam and supportive of women’s rights and atheism. She collaborated on a short movie with Theo van Gogh, entitled Submission (2004). Critical of Islam, it provoked controversy, and death threats were made against each of the two. Van Gogh was assassinated later that year by a Dutch Muslim.

Hirsi Ali is the daughter of the Somali politician and opposition leader Hirsi Magan Isse. She and her family left Somalia in 1977 for Saudi Arabia, then Ethiopia, and later settled in Kenya. In 1992, Ali sought and obtained political asylum in the Netherlands. Following graduate work, she published articles on her political views and spoke in support of Muslim women, becoming an atheist. In 2003, Hirsi Ali was elected a member of the House of Representatives (the lower house of the Dutch parliament), representing the People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD). A political crisis related to the validity of her Dutch citizenship led to her resignation from parliament, and indirectly to the fall of the second Balkenende cabinet in 2006.[1]
In 2005, Hirsi Ali was named by Time magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world.[2] She has also received several awards, including a free speech award from the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten,[3] the Swedish Liberal Party’s Democracy Prize,[4] and the Moral Courage Award for commitment to conflict resolution, ethics, and world citizenship.[5] Hirsi Ali has published two autobiographies: in 2006[6] and 2010.

Hirsi Ali emigrated to the United States, where she was a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute.[7] She founded the women’s rights organisation, the AHA Foundation.[8] She became a naturalized US citizen in 2013 and that year was made a fellow at the Kennedy Government School at Harvard University, and a member of The Future of Diplomacy Project at the Belfer Center.[9][10] She is married to British historian and public commentator Niall Ferguson.

You might think that Hirsi Ali must be a feminist hero. If you thought that, you are wrong. Here is what she recently wrote for HuffPost:

The system of law I am talking about is sharia law, the body of legislation derived from the Qur’an, the Hadith, and the rest of Islamic jurisprudence. And the discriminated group I have in mind is women, though I could also reference Jews, Christians and gays.

No group is more harmed by sharia than Muslim women — a reflection in part of the patriarchal tribal culture out of which Islamic law emerged. Repeatedly, women are considered under the code to be worth at most “half a man.” Sharia subordinates women to men in a multitude of ways: the requirement of guardianship by men, the right of men to beat their wives, the right of men to have unfettered sexual access to their wives, the right of men to practice polygamy, and the restriction of women’s legal rights in divorce cases, in estate law, in cases of rape, in court testimony, and in consent to marriage. Sharia states that women are considered naked if any part of their body is showing except for their face and hands, while a man is considered naked only between his navel and his knees. Finally, although Muslim men may marry Christian or Jewish women, Muslim women may only marry Muslim men.

Segregation, in short, is central to sharia — a fact that no amount of contortion by self-styled Muslim feminists can get around.

True, not all Muslim-majority countries apply sharia. In Tunisia, after a heated internal debate, the Islamist Ennahda Movement — which came to power following the Arab Spring — opted last year not to make sharia the basis for the country’s new constitution. But that is precisely the kind of moderate policy explicitly targeted by whichever jihadist gang carried out the Tunis museum massacre. And the troubling thing is that, worldwide, sharia is gaining ground. In Brunei, for example, the Sultan announced the introduction of sharia law last April. The advance of organizations like Islamic State and Boko Haram mean the most brutal application of sharia on a rising number of women and girls.

There seems to me only one possible way to react to this trend toward sharia and that is to resist it. Perhaps that is more obvious to me than to most; having lived under sharia when I was a young girl in Saudi Arabia I know just what it means to be a second-class citizen. Yet many Western liberals seem to struggle with the obvious point that if they were against segregation and discrimination in the 1960s they should be against gender segregation and discrimination now.

My most recent book is an argument for a Muslim Reformation. It proposes a fundamental five-point modification of Islamic doctrine designed to remove the various incitements embedded in the Koran to engage in intolerance, oppression and violence. The book is addressed mainly to Muslims who are reluctant to follow me all the way to apostasy, but who are prepared to acknowledge, if only to themselves, that there are fundamental incompatibilities between their faith and modernity. But I am also addressing Western liberals — and not only those at Brandeis University who last year saw fit to rescind their institution’s offer to me of an honorary degree.

In their letter denouncing me, 87 Brandeis faculty members accused me of suggesting that:

violence toward girls and women is particular to Islam or the Two-Thirds World, thereby obscuring such violence in our midst among non-Muslims, including on our own campus [and]… the hard work on the ground by committed Muslim feminist and other progressive Muslim activists and scholars, who find support for gender and other equality within the Muslim tradition and are effective at achieving it.
Seriously? “Support for gender and other equality within the Muslim tradition”? As for Muslim feminists “achieving” greater equality, the evidence, as we have seen, is that women’s rights in the Muslim world are being rapidly eroded by the spread of Islamism.

Calling Western feminists: People like me — some of us apostates, most of us dissident Muslims — need your support, not your antagonism. We who have known what it is to live without freedom watch with incredulity as you who call yourselves liberals — who claim to believe so fervently in women’s and minority rights — make common cause with the forces in the world that manifestly pose the greatest threats to just those things.

I am now one of you: an American. I share with you the pleasures of the seminar rooms and the campus cafés. I know we Western intellectuals cannot lead a Muslim Reformation. But we do have an important role to play. We must no longer accept limitations on criticism of Islam. We must reject the notions that only Muslims can speak about Islam, and that any critical examination of Islam is inherently “racist.” Instead of contorting Western intellectual traditions so as not to offend our Muslim fellow citizens, we need to defend the Muslim dissidents who are risking their lives to promote the human rights we take for granted: equality for women, tolerance of all religions and orientations, our hard-won freedoms of speech and thought.

Multiculturalism should not mean that we tolerate another culture’s intolerance. If we do in fact support diversity, women’s rights, and gay rights, then we cannot in good conscience give Islam a free pass on that spurious ground.

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95 Responses to Compare And Contrast

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    Is it just me or is Jon Stewart a total dick?

    • It’s not just you; he’s a dick in this interview.

      He’s also woefully ignorant on the facts of the Reformation. The two most important of Luther’s 95 theses were that 1) redemption could not be sold (Indulgences), but must be earned through good works and granted by God (not a pope), and 2) that the Bible must be accessible to the masses, which meant that it must be translated into common tongues (as opposed to maintained in Latin, as it was) and the masses should be taught to read so they could be free to interpret the word of God on their own, rather than have it dictated to them by papal gate keepers (priests & Bishops). Luther did not call for a conservative re-entrenchment of Christian principles; he called for an embrace of modernity that he thought would result in a better & kinder world, one more pleasing to God. That the rich and powerful papacy decided to fight instead of embrace this call is not on him, it’s on them. Reformationists were not the ISIS of their time; the papacy was.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Well, to be fair what Luther proposed runs smack dab up against Islamic interests, too, so he be a bad dude if your goal in life is to contrive a method of accepting Muslims as the new normal while still retaining some semblance of sanity.

    • 49erDweet says:

      You are just noticing it. He’s been one for at least a decade.

    • leslie says:

      It isn’t that he is a dick who is uncomfortable speaking with a woman who is smarter than he. Jon Stewart is a dick who wants to remain in bronco’s circle – or as close to it as he can get. If he had actually read this book – or even the jacket, I would hope he’d have treated Ms. Ali differently. That said, if, after all her experience, she had written a book supporting Sharia law, he’d have stood on his head for her.
      Once again, it’s NBC toadies carrying water for bronco. I wish they’d carry the water to bronco and dump it on his head. I stopped watching TDS years ago – 2008 to be precise.
      He should be twitter-bombed and NBC ought to hear from people all over the country re: this “interview”. But they won’t.

      • elliesmom says:

        What’s going on in the world today has very little to do with a belief in Allah. It’s a push for control of people’s lives for the betterment of the people who win the control. When the Catholic priests and bishops were extorting money from people and filling their coffers, it had nothing to do with God. God was just the cover they needed to get away with it. Because the person who demanded a stop to it, Martin Luther, did it in the name of the same God, devout people were able to see the corruption in their religion was not because of a corrupt God. They could throw out the humans who were claiming to be a conduit to God for them without losing contact with God. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is suggesting the same thing needs to happen again. A Muslim reformation will have to come from within the Muslim faith so the connection to Allah can remain unbroken for the faithful. Those of us who would try to change things from without will never have the success the people from within will have. Our attempts to appease those who would murder, rape, and pillage in the name of Allah for their own aggrandizement make it harder for the people within the faith to stop them.

        Any university or talk show host who refuses to listen to Ayaan Hirsi Ali is more interested in appeasement than in helping good, Allah-believing people free themselves from their oppressors. No need to free them from their God, but that’s what people like Jon Stewart mistakenly believe “Islamophobes” like Ayaan Hirsi Ali are trying to do. They get self-righteous about how we don’t have a right to interfere in someone else’s beliefs in God. But supporting the murderers, rapists, and pillagers is interfering just as much as encouraging the murdered, the raped, and the pillaged to stand up against their oppressors. If we’re going to take sides, I know what side I would like the USA to be on. I really don’t have a problem with our government saying ISIS isn’t Islamic if they follow through by saying they’re terrorists praying on the good muslim people and people of other faiths or of no faith under the cover of religion. The priests who sold Indulgences weren’t Christians.

    • fif says:

      I have never been a Stewart fan. He’s just too smug and plays at being a real journalist. Unfortunately, many people confuse the two. It’s easy when the alternatives are Chris Matthews or Mika Brzezinski et. al.

    • swanspirit says:

      He is a complete and total dick and a shill for Obama. He kept trying to put words in her mouth ; get her to say something she never said , and she went right around him.
      He was also condescending and disdainful, as if she were stupid. He actually thinks he is smart, and she quickly relieved him of that delusion. But he is disgusting. The only reason I watch him,at all, is to see what he happens to be spinning to the Vile progs, that they will pick up and echo faithfully.
      But I love Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and will watch her any chance I get.

  2. Lulu says:

    Jon Stewart doesn’t like women who are smarter than he is.

  3. Dora says:

    We know why this is happening now. Thou Shalt Not Speak Out Against Obama.

    NJ Senator Bob Menendez to be Arrested as Early as This Week

  4. votermom says:

    Do I have to watch the videos? *whine*
    Someone sum up?

  5. Somebody says:

    This is completely OT, but I just stumbled across something interesting
    The IRS is forming these panels all over the country. I presume they’re going to load them with toadies and use them as cover. No pay, but all travel expenses are covered. Maybe we should all apply and see if any of us even get a glance.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Did they clear these little panels with the PC police? Because I keep seeing that the progs want to ban the word taxpayer as it makes illegals and others who pay no income or property tax feel bad.

  6. lildoggy4u says:

    More of this please. Finally an escapee of Isam’s Sharia Law speaks the truth and dares to challenge Obama’s claim that Islam is a peaceful religion as thousands, especially women, are being killed in the name of Allah via the Koran. Of course, this was all a joke to John Stewart but Megan Kelley got to the root of this author’s claims immediately calling for an honest critique of what is occurring throughout the world in the name of Islam spreading rapidly as the Obama’s celebrate it in the White House.

  7. Lulu says:

    Obama’s extended hissy fit is because Netanyahu gave the Republicans in congress information about the Iran nuke deal that they got spying on the Iran talks. Obama did not want Congress to know what he was doing.
    To get around the WSJ paywall google the name of the article.
    “The spying operation was part of a broader campaign by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to penetrate the negotiations and then help build a case against the emerging terms of the deal, current and former U.S. officials said. In addition to eavesdropping, Israel acquired information from confidential U.S. briefings, informants and diplomatic contacts in Europe, the officials said.”
    “The espionage didn’t upset the White House as much as Israel’s sharing of inside information with U.S. lawmakers and others to drain support from a high-stakes deal intended to limit Iran’s nuclear program, current and former officials said.”
    Obama’s number one enemy is Congress. Number two is the US public. And the Europeans ratted out Obama.

  8. Myiq2xu says:

  9. threewickets says:

    Whole world is drowning in crappy propaganda. I blame the internet mostly. Also, John Stewart was always a bit of a dick. These days he’s a full-on dick. And no longer funny.

  10. Lulu says:

    I have two huge smoked turkeys in my freezer (Christmas gifts) that are taking up all of the space. I called local Catholic Charities food assistance to see if they want them. Yes they said. They have many large undocumented families that would need them. I said “Yeah? No. They have food stamps, housing vouchers, and work permits. They better get busy.” I then called my hairdresser whose mother belongs to a tiny, poor rural church. Would they want the godzilla turkeys? Yes! For their Easter luncheon for their little community. Her mom is picking 70 pounds of turkey this afternoon. I am done with philanthropy without knowing exactly where it is going.

    • swanspirit says:

      AWESOME move !! The Catholic Church is probably welcoming the illegals because most of them are catholic and are propping up the Church’s dwindling numbers.

      • leslie says:

        Honestly, Catholic Charities does not ask about religious affiliation or hardly anything else when it comes to helping the poor. I have referred many patients and clients to them for various services because they don’t ask for anything back – including fees for services.
        (well, they do care if their workers are gay and that’s a real problem for me as I have 2 very good friends who are partners, and at one time, years ago, CC “let go” one of them because of gay and partnership.) ;(

        • lildoggy4u says:

          Leslie, where I live, we have one Catholic Charity that has been on the frontline of feeding those with HIV to get the proper nutrition they need. They have been working this group since the very beginning of the AIDS epidemic. I believe it was started by one priest but he died and their work continues. I’m not a big fan of the Catholic Church but sometimes they are where the need is greatest and they certainly have the money to provide. I can’t group everyone in one basket and in fact I’m an agnostic who disagreed with the Faith Based Initiative started by the Bush Administration. But I do volunteer with this group – Poverello.

          • leslie says:

            That is lovely, lildoggy. I agree they (CC) are often on the frontline of caring for the poor and the sick. They simply don’t want their workers to either be openly gay and especially not in a relationship/partnership or heaven forfend – marriage.
            It’s wonderful that you volunteer with that group.

  11. lyn says:

    The world cannot, and should not, tolerate Islamic radicalism and violence.

  12. swanspirit says:

    When I have to give shots to people, they invariably say something to the effect of ” I HATE getting shots” ; or ” I really don’t like needles”, or “is this going to hurt?”
    I like to respond with something that helps them relax, so I say something like, ” Well , if you like them, I would be more worried about you ” , or “Of course you hate shots, who likes them?” , “Not if I can help it !” And I keep the conversation going in that direction until they have had their shot and don’t realize it is all over.
    This approach almost always gets a very positive response and a smile , because then people realize I empathize with them, and they aren’t expected to enjoy something that is uncomfortable and intrusive.
    So why would anyone expect western people to like something that is so obviously oppressive and uncomfortable, as even moderate Islam is , for women? Why should western women welcome or even accept or condone ,a religion/ culture/ system ; that subjugates them, dictates their life , and demeans their value? WHY? AFAIAC , there is no reason.

    • votermom says:

      Yes! I really dont understand “tolerating” seeing women in burkas.

      Btw, on tv I saw this show that said if you tell the person to cough as you give them the shot it won’t hurt as much. Have you ever tried that?

      • swanspirit says:

        I have not, but most people don’t feel my shots🙂.
        I learned how to give shots very early in my career, when I was working with toddlers who had severe lead poisoning, and had to get shots of EDTA , a chelating agent, three times a day for three days, before they could go on to oral medications to complete their therapy. Trust me when I say you have to be fast accurate and as painless as possible , if for no other reason than to cause the very least amount of discomfort, to a child that previously trusted you.
        The only difficulty I can see with asking someone to cough is that they might move their body, and I don’t know if I want to risk that, but whatever helps, helps. Thanks !

        • lildoggy4u says:

          I’ll never forget going to a free dental clinic in my youth and having the student try to give me a shot of novocaine. He was shaking so bad I knew I must have been his very first live patient. I grabbed his hand and jabbed myself with the damn shot but it went into my lip. I never went back.

          • Somebody says:

            Holy cow lildoggy, you’re tough! I flipping HATE the dentist, one shaking like that would have only made my phobia worse! I most likely would have headed for the nearest exit pronto.

      • Somebody says:

        I don’t know about coughing, but they were forever telling my daughter to breathe. Either breathe out when the needle goes in or hold her breath or whatever……none of which worked. Why do you want someone to watch the needle so they can time their breathing? That just makes them more focused on the needle.

        Absolutely nothing worked to calm my daughter during cancer treatment. Her port was badly placed and remained a problem throughout treatment; but her ANC was never really good enough, even during maintenance, to consider surgery to fix it. To this day she hates needles, but it sometimes took 45 minutes to an hour of digging around in her chest to access her port. Even though she had emla cream it was still hell, because only a couple of nurses could into the port before the emla wore off.

        • swanspirit says:

          I don’t blame her one bit! Poor kid, to be subject to so much trauma so young!! HUGS

        • lildoggy4u says:

          Somebody, I would not be anywhere near brave enough to handle what your daughter went through. I had to look up the terminology. Hope she’s doing great now.

  13. foxyladi14 says:

    Ouch!!! ❤

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  16. mothy67 says:

    What I question is how are all of these new islamic immigrant families buying homes in nice neighborhoods. Is it not against sharia to borrow money at interest? Where do you come up with 200k to flat out buy? Who funds this?

    • 49erDweet says:

      Not if you don’t intend to pay it off.

    • Somebody says:

      Tim under sharia money is lent at no interest, it is considered a sin to charge interest.

      I imagine the muslim immigrants are getting A) money from our government that many immigrants get and B) money from other muslims or muslim charities or what have you, which is money that comes from jizya and zakat, otherwise known as taxes the former imposed on non-muslims and the latter imposed on muslims with incomes above a certain amount.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Another way is for a bank/whoever to offer a home at a greatly inflated price. They then “lease” it back at the inflated rate so that the interest is paid but the loophole says it is not interest. The “lease” may also have a clause that says if X dollars are paid, the house then belongs to the lessee. In others words the classic shell game.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        It’s not a sin to borrow money with interest, it’s only a sin to LOAN it that way. Christians used to believe the same thing but Jews never did. Which is why Jews both prospered and were despised thru much of history. Jews ran banks and pawnshops, and loaned money to Christians and Muslims. If you burn the banker at the stake you don’t have to repay the loan.

        Remember Shylock? He was a Jewish moneylender.

        • smile says:

          I did not know this. This explains why jews were / are hated so much. I could never understand the hatred, and this explains it perfectly. I wonder now how much of local German indebtedness to the jews was responsible for Nazism, and Hitler, and the silent popularity of killing them off.

  17. swanspirit says: This is a very long, but easy read, worth every word.

    ’ll give you one example, Mark Zuckerberg goes down to the estate of Carlos Slim in a foreign country, violated every principle Churchill said was the sign of a defective character, a man that goes into a foreign country and trashes his homeland. He goes to Carlos Slim, he says I am ashamed of American immigration law. That’s what he said, because he wants to bring in labor or he’s so fond of the illegal aliens who do the help in Palo Alto. He feels bad. And then he has a house in Palo Alto not too far from my studio apartment, which I pay $2,200.00 for 600 square feet at Stanford, and he bought six houses around it so he could determine who his neighbors were because he was afraid that he might get a family that might do something, maybe shoot a gun off in the air or roast a pig out the front door or have some chickens that’ll fly over the fence so he could adjudicate who was living around him. Think of that. And that sums up this coastal mentality in this state whether it’s high-speed rail or water or power, any of these issues; foremost among them, illegal immigration, is based on people who do not want to be subject to the consequences of their own utopian fantasies. They’re really a despicable bunch. I hate to be that mean to them, but the more I’m around them on this issue of illegal immigration they’re racist, they’re elitist.

    • Lulu says:

      If the serfs you already have get uppity you bring in new ones to knock the serfs already there down a notch. Starve them, fire them, replace them, cut their wages or food supply, tax them, etc. The very wealthy are always thinking of ways to keep their (usually unearned) advantage because they are insecure. Zuckerberg is an elite little turd. And so is Carlos Slim who is in favor of a social relief valve for Mexico who would have another revolution if they couldn’t run their social problems and grotesque inequality and poverty over the border. Slim and Zuckerberg both get what they want.

  18. votermom says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      She should get a medal for lasting 6 years.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        ‘After almost six years as Chief Floral Designer at the White House, I have resigned in order to pursue exciting new opportunities and explore my passion for floral artistry and design,’ said Dowling in a statement issued by heavyweight law firm Sidley Austin.

        1. Chief Floral Designer? How big was her staff?

        2. Sidley Austin is the Chicago law firm where the Obamas worked/met.

        3. What kind of exciting new opportunities does a florist get?

  19. mothy67 says:

    Oh my this guy calls ISIS a gay cult. Hope he has good security.
    I think it’s sarcasm.

  20. swanspirit says:

  21. Somebody…if you are out there we are heading to Jax tomorrow, Kingsland tomorrow nite (and Thurday) and Woodbine on Thursday daytime. Do you follow me on twitter? If so, DM me at DemocracyDame to see if we can swing a mtg if you are up for it!😉

    • DandyTIger says:

      Nice. Have fun.

    • Somebody says:

      FF I don’t do twitter but my husband has an account, when he gets home from work I’ll ask him to tweet you. I have a 5-6pm class with my dog today, otherwise I’m free. Let’s definitely meet up!

      • HI YA Somebody!

        Heading out the door soon….

        I’d love to, but today is a no for sure….

        tomorrow is the only hope!🙂

        If not this time (it’s a quick trip to meet a builder) the next time we can figure it out better. That will probably be mid-summer…when it’s hottest!


        I’ll see if I can connect w/ hubby later.


        • Somebody says:

          FF my husband tweeted you. My schedule is open tomorrow, let me know how yours is. I picked the Cracker Barrel at exit 3, but we can meet up anywhere.

    • Dora says:

      I was watching. If Michelle was trying out a new hairdo, I think she might want to go back to her wigs. 🙂

    • leslie says:

      I actually like her hair that way. She looks more real. (Most of the AA women I know would love to give their own hair issues a rest. But with MO walking around all the time sporting those wigs, they feel uncomfortable not wearing one.) One of my friends had such damaged hair that she finally lost most of it and is now completely bald. The first time I saw her post losing all her hair, I didn’t know what to say. In fact, I didn’t recognize her until she spoke.

  22. piper says:

    Interesting Thread on American Thinker
    “Israel is “Waiting Out Obama.” Europe, the UK and Australia have joined the China’s Monetary Bank. Egypt is now looking to Russia. Obama has set the USA back decades. Our friends are fleeing from Obama. We are at pre-World War II levels of influence.

    Make no mistake. The USA has taken a major hit, and our influence may never come back to pre-Obama levels. Call it the Obamadorian Reaction. Call it the Obamadorian Reaction, meant to preclude the inevitable American Thermidor if Obama is allowed 2 more years of free rein.

    If Congress does not act forcibly now, the USA will suffer a major fall. Idiocy at this level is either corrected firmly, or there will be mass death and civil disruption to follow. We do not have the luxury of waiting two years. The world will not wait.
    Read more:

  23. Dora says:

    Talk about hair – I’m curious about this picture. Did Hillary stop bleaching her hair? Is she going natural for her campaign? Or is this a photoshop? It looks real. Just wondering.

    Inspector General: Second In Charge At DHS Showed Favoritism to Hillary Clinton’s Brother In Business Dealing With Harry Reid And Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe…

    • leslie says:

      It is probably authentic. But I see a photo shop of Madeline Albright and Hillary. I feel the way this lady looks today. Been up since 3:30 for 3 consecutive days and I’m already more than tired.

    • piper says:

      a teaser paragraph
      “”We are led by men and women educated to believe in the irresistible authority of their own words. When they encounter others who use words solely to deflect and defraud, or, worse, when their opposite numbers ignore words completely and revel in ferocious violence, our best and brightest go into an intellectual stall and keep repeating the same empty phrases (in increasingly tortured tones):

  24. piper says:

    Mmmmmm- where is the Klown today – resting in the new and improved dungeon newly decorated by me, 49er and others, food pantry upgraded by Leslie, Swannie and others, with entertainment and comfort provided by several affectionate Kittehs

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