Hillary’s Minions Are Poisoning The Well

There is a new book coming out:


The New York Times reported Sunday evening that a forthcoming investigative bombshell book on Hillary and Bill Clinton will soon be the focus of major feature stories and is regarded as “the most anticipated and feared book of a presidential cycle.”

For weeks, news outlets from the Washington Post to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer have alluded that the highly-anticipated May 5 release of Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich by three-time New York Times bestselling investigative journalist Peter Schweizer could be a presidential game-changer. Schweizer is President of the non-partisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI) and a Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News.

The New York Times revealed that Clinton Cash describes how the Clintons’ income from 2001 to 2012 was at least $136.5 million, how Mr. Clinton would routinely fetch half-a-million dollar honorariums for speeches while Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of State, and much more.

Despite the Clinton campaign’s ability to dismiss “critical books as conservative propaganda,” the Times says “Clinton Cash is potentially more unsettling, both because of its focused reporting and because major news organizations are expected to pursue the story lines found in the book.”

The Times adds, “Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee have been briefed about the book’s findings.”

Publishing giant HarperCollins said in a press release that the book represents the culmination of a one-year deep dive investigation by Schweizer’s GAI investigative unit. The GAI, which has quickly established itself as one of the nation’s most respected—and feared—Washington watchdog organizations, has gained notoriety for vigorously investigating both Republicans and Democrats, as well as releasing its investigative findings through major national mainstream media partners, such as CBS News’ 60 Minutes, New York Times, Politico, ABC News, and Fox News.

I don’t want to pass judgment on a book I haven’t even seen reviewed or read excepts from yet, but Hillary’s minions are out in force on Twitter this morning, poisoning the well before the book gets released.

Fallacy: Poisoning the Well

Description of Poisoning the Well

This sort of “reasoning” involves trying to discredit what a person might later claim by presenting unfavorable information (be it true or false) about the person. This “argument” has the following form:

Unfavorable information (be it true or false) about person A is presented.
Therefore any claims person A makes will be false.

This sort of “reasoning” is obviously fallacious. The person making such an attack is hoping that the unfavorable information will bias listeners against the person in question and hence that they will reject any claims he might make. However, merely presenting unfavorable information about a person (even if it is true) hardly counts as evidence against the claims he/she might make. This is especially clear when Poisoning the Well is looked at as a form of ad Homimem in which the attack is made prior to the person even making the claim or claims.

In this case, the purpose of poisoning the well is to warn Progressives to close their eyes, insert their fingers in their ears and start chanting “La, la, la, I can’t hear you” over and over until the media storm passes.

This reaction is (to say the least) quite revealing. I look forward to learning more about the contents of the book. But until I do I won’t form any opinions about it.

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102 Responses to Hillary’s Minions Are Poisoning The Well

  1. Myiq2xu says:

  2. Myiq2xu says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Wait, I thought Fox was run by the GOP, driven by their talking points. Now it’s Fox that drives the GOP. Which is it? Were they lying before, or are they lying now?

  3. Dora says:

    Strange indeed.

    The strange philanthropy of Chris Ruddy: Conservative newsman pledges $1M to Clintons

  4. elliesmom says:

    I think the biggest news is that the NYT and WaPo are interested in following up on the story. Whether they highlight it or try to quash it will be the thing to watch.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m wondering why the NYT and WaPo aren’t sticking their own investigative teams on it ? Where’s this generation’s Woodward and Bernstein ? The author merely dug into public records and noticed some descrepancies.

      I did a news search on the Clinton Foundation and came up with too many stories of them being constantly investigated over this and that. From last fall, questions about the Clintons travel expenses. It’s high because of security concerns ? We the People do provide them a lifetime of security, which I don’t mind, but it requires First Class travel or private charters too? I guess the “foundation” picks up that tab.


    • foxyladi14 says:


  5. lyn says:

    The relentless media fawning toward Obama and his presidency sure screwed up the country.

  6. Somebody says:

    I don’t know that I’d make the claim that Peter Schweizer is some GOP tool, he seems to be an equal opportunity hit man. In his previous books “Throw Them All Out” and “Extortion”, he took swipes at members of both parties, especially the leadership. In fact reading them will make your blood boil and just sour you on all of the bastards.

    I guess you’re correct though Klown, they’re sending out the signals loud and clear to ignore his book……..”These are not the droids you are looking for”. That tells me there is some really damaging information in his book.

  7. Dora says:

    As someone who has been reading the NY Post for years, I can tell you that Fred Dicker is usually right.

    De Blasio in secret bid to be Dems’ 2016 pick


  8. DandyTIger says:

    If this were Obama, it would be covered up. Just shows that the Dem establishment and the MSM are still not on the Clinton’s side. This is going to be interesting.

  9. HELENK3 says:

    Hilary’s per hour speech fee

  10. Dora says:

    I wonder if they’ll start doing this here.

    ‘Chilling’ posters in Cardiff warn Muslims not to vote in the general election because ‘it violates the right of Allah’


  11. HELENK3 says:


    now this could get interesting.
    US State dept to train journalists in India

  12. HELENK3 says:

    not sure if this will show

  13. Dora says:

    Talk about counting the votes of the dead . .

    NC Man’s Obituary Urges Friends And Family Not To Vote For Clinton In 2016


  14. HELENK3 says:

    stole this from Marge

  15. Myiq2xu says:

    • swanspirit says:

      That is very scary. People intimidated into not even calling a lawyer?? I think the scariest thing is, this is what we will have more of if the D’s get the control they want . And they want complete control.
      I am reading a book called WILD SWANS , Three Daughters of China , by Jung Chang http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Swans-Three-Daughters-China/dp/0743246985
      It is a great read for understanding how the Chinese people came to trust , and were devoted to the communists, before they were trapped and betrayed by them.
      For me, voting for Hillary will help facilitate the Dems gaining that control . That alone is reason enough for me not to vote for her.
      As for poisoning the well, isn’t that what the entire “liberal” Vile Prog” contingent, from the media moguls to blathering bloggers and a special mention for Jon Stewart, having been trying to do to Fox News for years? There should be a POISONED WELL AWARD !! And you Klown, should be the presenter 🙂

    • elliesmom says:

      This is one of the reasons I support Scott Walker. He knows what he’s up against.

      • Constance says:

        I want Walker to win as I think he has the knowledge and guts to get the country back on track. But I’m still going to listen to Rubio until voting day.

    • 49erDweet says:

      John Doe warrants. WCPGW?
      When we reach the point in this country where elected prosecutors can no longer be trusted, the next moves will be bloody. In WI it might be soon.
      This also shoots down for all time the theory law enforcement officers need to be unionized for job protection. Absolutely a false narrative. AFAIC any locale where cops and DA’s staff are unionized is a place to move and divest oneself from, because justice might be blind, but it doesn’t belong to the teamsters.

  16. votermom says:

    Btw Klown, I’m pretty sure “minion”, “poison”, and “well” are all sexist words.
    Also “are” and “the”.

  17. HELENK3 says:


    abandoned by backtrack, Americans describe tense escapes from Yemen

    this is a must read

  18. Myiq2xu says:

  19. Myiq2xu says:

    • Somebody says:

      Holy shit! I’d hate to have a family member on that ship because this administration isn’t to be trusted, they might decide to sacrifice them for the sake of a worthless treaty….legacy…..nobel.

      What a hot mess this all is. No matter what happens the stupid media will cover Obama’s ass……which is easy for them to do since they’re already kissing it.

    • elliesmom says:

      I suppose it’s better to start a war with Iran before they have nuclear weapons than after.

  20. HELENK3 says:


    one more thing I like about Walker, he is smart enough to investigate and find out about important things to Americans

  21. Myiq2xu says:

    • 49erDweet says:

      Wow! How DARE you invalidate my feeeeewings? They are the MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD! So there!

      • Underwhelmed says:

        They are an excruciating embarrassment. And also victims of parents and a school system that coddled them from the moment they drew breath.

    • elliesmom says:

      I’ve been involved in that discussion at FB. I’ve also been to a small group discussion with Hoff-Sommers as the featured guest. She’s hardly intimidating. While I don’t always or even often (although more lately) agree with her, I found her to be warm and engaging. If she’s scary enough to need “trigger warnings”, how do these special snowflakes make it through a Disney movie? I realized long ago a college education isn’t what it used to be, but now I find myself wondering just what it is. We’re requiring people to have college degrees for jobs that used to be filled by high school graduates with the idea that a college degree is proof you know how to think. That’s obviously not the case. I’m beginning to think college is adolescent daycare. We’ve given them a high school diploma, but they aren’t ready to go out into the world so we send them to college to be safe for 4 more years. But we give them access to booze and sex because we recognize biologically they’re adults. We have to give the ones who are more ready to face the world than that other options besides the military.

      • lyn says:

        I was terrified of the professors when I went to college, and I worked my butt off because of it. I never thought about feeling sorry for myself; I didn’t have time. 😀

        • elliesmom says:

          When I went to college in the early 70’s, I lived and breathed school work. As one of the first women, it was more than just me who needed me to be successful. I had good relationships with my professors, but there was an element of terror involved. I had the luxury of going to graduate school full-time twenty years later. As a daytime grad student, my peers were mostly recent college grads. They made it very clear they objected to “older students” in their classes. They were very forthright in telling us we worked too hard and set the bar too high. It was with that group that I met Christina Hoff Sommers. She was working on “Who Stole Feminism”, which had not yet been published. Most of the people in the room were or were about to be educators. A lot of the conversation centered around Title IX. That I can still remember so much about the discussion another 20+ years later says a lot about her ability to speak to a group. It really saddens me that these young women are so frightened of being exposed to new ideas.

          • lyn says:

            That’s awesome. I’ll have to check out Sommers’s work.

          • leslie says:

            I just googled “Christina Hoff Sommers” and was reading about the speeches at Georgetown and Oberlin in an article in National Review. The talk of “trigger warnings” at both sites, etc. when I tried to link to another article written by a Georgetown student my anti-virus “warned me” saying there could be “danger ahead” if I were to go to that url. So now, even articles about Christina Hoff Sommers have their own “trigger warnings” from McAfee. LOL… 😉
            BTW: the articles are very revealing of the incredible power of “just words”. I think these “students” need to stay home if they are so worried about hearing anything that could damage their little minds.

    • DandyTIger says:

      And the left is going to claim that because Scott Walker was a few credits short of these types of schools, this type of baby nonsense, and went to work instead, that he shouldn’t be president. Paaleeeez.

  22. DeniseVB says:

    Good news and why I like the Koch brothers ===> They’re supporting Walker. ‘Merica!


    • elliesmom says:

      That’s good news! And it ought to set off a shit storm. lol

    • lyn says:

      I’d love to have a college dropout as president, because the recent Ivy Leaguers have been awful.

      • swanspirit says:

        And wouldn’t that be the bees knees LOL
        Maryland was called a microcosm of what was happening nationally in the last election, because the Dem candidate resembled Obama , and he was O’Malleys chosen one.

        But we got Larry Hogan businessman for our Republican governor, and boy is he cleaning house. The Deep Blue Dems are turning white with shock. After addressing the budget, he is repealing the “rain tax” and agreeing to work with the farmers to continue to protect the Chesapeake Bay, after spending some time here on the Shore.
        He has investigated the fund from the state gambling lottery and the casinos and is asking where the money went that is supposed to go to our schools.

        He now has the bidding process for state awarded contracts for state paid work under scrutiny. Hogan said the bidding process was a mess and he is going to clean it up. I can hear the howls of Dem agony all the way from Annapolis.

        Walker seems as if he would be very much like Hogan, he says what he means , and means what he says about getting the job done for the people .

      • leslie says:

        Similarly, in Illinois, we elected businessman Bruce Rauner (R) and he is doing the same thing.. . cleaning house. There was an interesting (and truthful) editorial in the Sunday Tribune about where the blame for this mess should be placed (As if there were any doubt among thinking people).
        “The Real Scrooges in Springfield don’t include Rauner”

  23. DeniseVB says:


  24. DeniseVB says:

    Oh. F**k. No. USMC may lower it’s infantry training standards because women can’t pass basic.


  25. swanspirit says:

    How to admit your own stupidity
    U.S. Now Offering $5 Million Reward For Al Qaeda Terrorist It Released From Guantanamo

    The State Department is now offering a cash reward of $5 million for info on the whereabouts of former Guantanamo Bay detainee, Ibrahim al-Rubaysh.

    OOOPS! How many other ‘mistakes’ like this have been made with all these Gitmo releases?

    Obama has been releasing terrorists from Gitmo who openly state they will return to their jihadist brethren to attack us once again. Even Obama admits that the terrorists he releases could attack us again. Talk about brash!

    Obama just released a top intelligence militant who was known to possess uranium and stinger missiles.

    The stated reasons for releasing these terrorists are flimsy to say the least; such as ‘taking up yoga’ or ‘having a positive attitude’.


  26. DeniseVB says:

  27. swanspirit says:

    And now for something completely different KERMIT FOUND IN COSTA RICA!!

    you have to see it !

  28. Myiq2xu says:

  29. Sigh. I must ask, has Crawdad Hole turned into an HRC hate site too? BELIEVE ME, after spending all I could, working as hard as I did and being there at every turn in 2008, including live and in person at the RBC meeting with the Florida Delegation, AND in Denver, I have MANY questions about HRC and what and who she is now. And where she would like to take the country. I no longer blindly support. But I want to hear what she has to say. To date that is little. But as what happened with Obama, all I see NOW is NO ONE (hardly) is asking the candidates from the GOP the hard questions, instead taking their on stage time to deliberately and often with gratuitous idiocy attack HRC. I do not want her protected. I do not want to give her an “out”. But I also cannot stand that so many feel they are not REQUIRED to give equal opportunity to either laying out the visions of any other candidate and picking those apart, and instead want to fall back on what so many of us, as original 2008 supporters HATED in the MSM, the Vile Prog sites and from OFA. Rumor, innuendo, lies and distain. HRC does have baggage. This is a given. But is it now OK to pile on?

    I got run off of past pro-HRC sites because I wasn’t willing to support Dems at all costs. Do I now find myself in the wastelands of those days where the overarching theme mirrors those days?

    I may sound like Mothy at the moment, but I am trying to get a thought across and I am having trouble.

    Are we now all supposed to hate Hillary Clinton? If so, I may have to abandon the internet AND TV.

    • HELENK3 says:

      I do not hate Hilary Clinton. I learned a valuable lesson in 2007 and continued learning since. Her decisions define her and they were not good.
      Would I ever vote for her again HELL NO. would I contribute and make the phone calls again Hell NO.

      I want to hear what plans and ideas the candidates have and how they will work to clean up the messes from backtrack.
      right now there are no ideas from the democratic party, they seem to feel everything is just hunky dory and Hillary is the only one running on their side.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      I don’t hate Hillary, but I will not be voting for any Democrats in the foreseeable future, if ever again. I am hopeful that the GOP will nominate someone I could vote for, otherwise I will not be voting.

    • swanspirit says:

      I don’t hate Hillary. I am just deeply disappointed . Also, it is so very early for so much speculaion. Some times I have to do politics LITE just to get by. Don’t go. Group think doesn’t happen here.

    • lyn says:

      I don’t hate Hillary, but I see her better now than I did in 2008. I hope we will have a good choice for president in 2016, and the best person wins. Neither Bush nor Obama should have been re-elected, and the country certainly would have been different in both cases. We need a vaccine to fight the Zombie voters from both parties. Maybe it’s called independence.

    • DandyTIger says:

      I put Hillary at the same level as GWB and Obama. I thought better of her in ’07, but she sided with Obama, became his SoS, invaded Libya, neglected embassies, covered up a major failure in Libya, deleted any email evidence of likely wrong-doing, and it looks like took money for favors while SoS. And is now, in her position of making more than 70% of CEO’s is talking about how they have too much money, having set up her estate so Chelsea will pay no inheritance taxes, talks about how the rich should pay more inheritance taxes. Nope, she sold her soul. And to me her, GWB, and Obama are the same. Don’t like any of them. Wouldn’t vote for any of them. Won’t vote for her in ’16.

    • leslie says:

      Although I have publicly stated (and privately as well) that I won’t vote for HRC, I don’t hate her. I hate some of the things she has done, and decisions she has made. But I have ODS not CDS. I was angry in 2008 at the DNC. I still am angry – but mostly at having been duped into thinking they were upright and honest. I, will probably not vote for a democrat again. But the decision not to vote for Hillary again has taken years to arrive. And truly it was solidified by the Benghazi debacle, not by hate.

  30. Nite folks. I read every day and I am tired as hell from work. You guys are all SO smart. I love reading here.

  31. HELENK3 says:


    everyday Americans in NH refuse to shake Hillary’s hand

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