Friday Morning Open Thread

Springtime in the Trailer Park

Springtime in the Trailer Park

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63 Responses to Friday Morning Open Thread

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    Tucker is going to the vet again. He hurt his paw – I can’t see anything wrong with it but he’s been limping for days.

    These Kittehs are killing my budget.

  2. votermom says:

  3. mothy67 says:

    That picture is secerely disturbing..
    Ever wake up with a hangover when you haven’t had a drink in weeks?

  4. DandyTIger says:

    The Baltimore AG charged 6 cops with homicide because the guy was not seat belted and sustained injuries in the van. So it appears the leaks were correct in that he sustained the injuries in the van during transport. Some of those leaked reports indicate some aspect of self inflicted injuries, which apparently isn’t uncommon. But at the same time, it sounds like some negligence and mishandling might have occurred. But second degree homicide sounds a bit strong. Get ready for a circus trial (of the century).

    • mcnorman says:

      Heard that the ME report was just barely handed to her office this morning. Both she and the hubby are very politically tied. I don’t like the fact that this guy died with a severed spine, but this is just too fast for me.

      • Lulu says:

        She better be ready to face a formidable bunch of defense lawyers paid for by police unions. It is easy to charge but hard to convict the competently represented. I read that when she came into this office she fired all the experienced prosecutors so that may have not been too smart. The cops are not going to co-operate with her in her other cases either.

        • leslie says:

          I heard last night (on the Kelly File) that she was an APA for a short time and then left the practice of law to work for some corporation (I think). She did not practice law again, but ran for this job and won. Her husband is one of the Baltimore councilmen who has been marching with the demonstrators this week. She has very, very limited experience.

    • swanspirit says:

      There was no way the officers were going to get out from under not belting him in, given that it is standard practice and policy. But any intent to harm him, will be really difficult to prove. It sounds like she charged them with as much as she could ; so that at least something would stick.

      • DandyTIger says:

        I’m hearing not standard practice. Apparently people are pretty much never seat belted. But it is a rule, and even if never followed, it only takes one person dying because that rule actually had a reason to be there, that the practice changes. So no excuse, if that’s part of the cause.

        • swanspirit says:

          Believe it or not, I saw something on TV to the effect that the change in policy regarding belting had just happened three days ago, and not all the officers had been briefed, or had read the new policy. This is so close to home for me. Those officers, I am sure , had no intent to kill Freddy, and just were doing their job under duress and the best they could. And usual, are the ones blamed when something goes wrong.
          And IMNSHO, those vans are death traps, how do they prevent people from being injured when transported? They are horrible.

          • 49erDweet says:

            To be fair, they are designed for local downtown city street and alley use, not freeway traffic. So speeds USUALLY stay under 25-30 mph. But not always. And cops probably assume the presence of too much sobriety and self preservation skill on many occasions.

      • mcnorman says:

        Question? Did the van that he was transferred in have a belt? I heard that belting business just got passed.

        • DandyTIger says:

          That would be interesting if that just changed.

          • mcnorman says:

            It’s not standard practice in some states yet. No up and close photos of the actual van that they used for transfer released so who knows? I don’t know if it applies here. I’m curious.

          • mcnorman says:

            Cop Nero told them audio recording exists of him begging arresting officers to restrain Gray but they did not belt him in.

        • Lulu says:

          It did. I saw a photo (DM or the Guardian) that showed a van with two big metal boxes lengthwise installed with solid walls, doors kind of like in a kennel, a little bench with a ratty seat belt. The cops would have to have climbed into a very tight space with an “irate” prisoner, spitting and biting, kicking and head butting, to secure him to a seat belt. The problem is that he still could have been banging his head even if he was hogtied or seat belted. They strap them in a wheelchair with arm, leg, and head restraints in the jails. They would have to do that in a van too if they go berserk to prevent stuff like this happening.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Also, vehicle homicide charges against the officers that were never even riding in the van sounds a bit ridiculous. Hard to imagine those holding up in court. Maybe with the driver, and maybe other sorts of more minor charges, but if you’re not even in the vehicle, that seems a bit odd.

      • Lulu says:

        It looks like a “throw the spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks”. I think a judge will drop a bunch of the charges but not all.

    • 49erDweet says:

      The problem with belting prisoners into a “van”, and let’s assume for a moment it’s not a regular 3 or 4 seats-in-rows van, but rather a seats-around-the-perimeter paddy wagon style van, is that an ossifer of the law has to actually enter and maneuver around midst other prisoners in order to buckle one of them in – placing said armed cop in a certain amount of jeopardy from his own weapon being snatched during all that moving about.

  5. foxyladi14 says:

    Happy May Day friends!!! 😀

  6. Myiq2xu says:

    Via Hot Air:

    Officer Caesar R. Goodson, Jr.: Second degree depraved heart murder; involuntary manslaughter; second-degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence); misconduct in office

    Officer William G. Porter: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

    Lt. Brian W. Rice: Involuntary manslaughter; two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

    Officer Edward M. Nero: Two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

    Officer Garrett E. Miller: Two counts of second degree assault; two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

    Sgt. Alicia D. White: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

    • DandyTIger says:

      All the assault charges are because they say there was no probably cause for apprehending the suspect. It sounds like there was more than probable cause since he had previously been found to be selling drugs in that same area before, and upon seeing cops, he ran. Certainly talking to him was warranted. And running from cops is often a reason for cops to then chase. Now if upon checking his person, they found nothing, maybe that would be different.

      • Lulu says:

        He had pending (like 5 or so) felony charges and only got out of prison in the past couple of years. Where was his parole officer? And why was he out on bail? Things are certainly different in Baltimore.

    • 49erDweet says:

      If probable cause for the arrest can be established, (but if the prosecutor can choose the right court and the proper judge that might be thwarted), those would all boil down to “involuntary homicide” for the cop(s) assigned to the van. It’s politically motivated legal overreach. And it will further drive a cop exodus from a city which needs experienced cops more than ever. WCPGW?

      • DandyTIger says:

        Looks like we have probable cause. Probation says he’s not supposed to be in that drug zone, where he got caught dealing before. And related, additional pending felony charges for dealing in that area. Just being there and then running is probable cause. Looks like this case is pretty open and shut for all but the driver, at least.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          If they had reasonable suspicion (which they did when he ran) he could be arrested for “resisting, obstructing or delaying” the po po.

    • lyn says:

      I haven’t seen anything about the race of these officers, so I’m assuming they are AA.

  7. DandyTIger says:

    Oh god, the president is going to make remarks on the case shortly.

    • lyn says:

      This is his thing.

    • mcnorman says:

      It’s all about him.

    • Somebody says:

      Thanks for the warning I’ll keep my TV turned off today, I don’t want to ruin my day off. I don’t have the kids today!!! Seems their mom decided she wanted to spend the day with them after months of ignoring them and abandoning them, then returning when internet love 6 states away didn’t pan out. I hope all she’s doing is spending the day with them, but I’m not in charge of the world and I’ll shut up and enjoy my day off.

      Chasing after 3 kids, two of them under the age of two…..SUCKS! It’s a daily reminder of how old I am…….of course the silver lining is that it’s a great diet and exercise program! My pants are literally falling off of me!!!! Maybe I’ll go shopping and buy some new clothes and pray the store doesn’t have a TV on so seeing Obama won’t ruin my day off.

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  9. Constance says:

    OK I was born in a trailer park but that is not one of my relatives. I’m pretty sure.

  10. 1539days says:

    This will stop the riots. If they get what they want, the trial will take enough time so a not guilty verdict on all counts will fall just in time for primary season, thereby killing Hillary’s chances.

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