Prejudice Is No Excuse

Jonah Goldberg:

Before he insinuated that Burnett is a racist, Stokes waxed eloquent about how these kids have been marginalized, etc. Translation: The punks setting cars on fire and looting stores are the real victims.

First of all, it’s not only plausible, but obviously true, that many of these punks had rough starts in life. Unlike the largely bogus claim that poverty and powerlessness is what creates terrorists, the root-causes argument has explanatory power for street criminals. No serious conservative disputes that poverty, joblessness, crime, family breakdown, crappy schools, etc. help explain why young men make bad choices. But explanations aren’t excuses, even if they overlap at the margins from time to time. Bad choices are still choices, and if we don’t judge people by their choices we can’t judge people at all.

If a sane man rapes and kills a little girl but, when caught, explains how terrible his own childhood was, the civilized response of the criminal justice system must be “we don’t care.” Some crimes are moral gray areas — the man who steals bread to feed his starving family, etc. But, other crimes aren’t. Nonetheless, a society that refuses to distinguish between people who behave criminally and people who don’t won’t be a society for very long.

And by the way, how exactly it helps the black community to say that th*gs cannot be singled out from the rest of the black community completely mystifies me. I thought the antidote to racism was judging people individually, based upon their behavior. I don’t discriminate against people because of the color of their skin, but I will freely admit I discriminate against people who burn down senior centers. But that’s just me.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that cops routinely use racial profiling (consciously or unconsciously) and stop more black people than white people. Does that in any way excuse black people for breaking the law?

Of course not.

We can debate the wisdom of the War on Drugs, but the consensus is that the recreational use of drugs is bad so some drugs are illegal and the others controlled by prescription. Powdered cocaine is illegal. So is crack cocaine. But the penalties for possessing equal amounts of crack and powdered cocaine are different. Some people call this racism because black people are more likely than white people to use crack cocaine.

Here is a simple remedy: If you don’t want to go to prison for possessing/transporting/selling crack then don’t possess/transport/sell crack!

Let’s say you live in a bad neighborhood and go to an inferior school. Should you:

1. Refuse to get an education?
2. Get the best education you can get at an inferior school?

Let’s say you live in an area with high unemployment and very few good jobs. Should you:

1. Sit on your ass and complain about being poor and demand that government create a high paying job for you?
2. Move somewhere else where there are jobs available and work hard to develop the skills and experience necessary for a good job?

Let’s say you are a member of a minority that faces prejudice in finding employment. Should you:

1. Dress and talk differently during job interviews to demonstrate pride in your culture?
2. Dress in standard work attire and speak proper English in job interviews?

Let’s say you have been stopped by the police for “driving while black.” Should you:

1. Jump out of your vehicle to angrily confront the racist pig who stopped you for no reason?
2. Control your anger and endure the unfair treatment calmly with the knowledge that you have nothing to worry about because you were not breaking the law?

If you are an Arab-American man some people will look at you suspiciously or be unfriendly to you because you resemble the terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center. Yes, it is terribly unfair, but getting angry and resentful won’t make it any better and will likely makes things worse.

Nobody ever said that life was gonna be fair. Each of us has to play the hand we are dealt, even though some people are dealt better hands than others. But if you break the law, that’s on you. If you don’t try to succeed, you are trying to fail.

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159 Responses to Prejudice Is No Excuse

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    I hope this makes sense. Sometimes I’m not sure but I’m too tired to proof read it.

  2. mothy67 says:

    Guy in Baltimore yesterday screaming for CVS companies to get out of the neighborhood. Something about taking their money. Well lets see there are always complaints in poor neighborhoods about affordable stores. Open up an independent drug store/grocery and take a look at the prices.
    They demand well paying jobs but want the businesses to leave. Odds are quite a few black people own stock in many varied merchants.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Stores like CVS don’t want to build in bad neighborhoods but are often forced to in order to get approval of other stores in upscale neighborhoods.

    • elliesmom says:

      I hear a lot about black people want businesses owned by other black people in their neighborhoods. They object to white, Hispanic, or Asian folks making money off of them. That smacks of a request for a return to segregation to me, but the reality is when there were black schools, black hospitals, and businesses catering to blacks, there was a large black professional class living in black neighborhoods. Today they live out in the burbs with the rest of the white collar folks. I don’t know how burning down businesses in black neighborhoods gets more black people to open businesses there since the rioters don’t discriminate about which businesses they burn down. But I do know it makes more middle class black people move out to the burbs.

      • 1539days says:

        You mean they want to be given businesses. The Asians and the Hispanics worked their asses off and saved money to buy those stores. Blacks can do (and have done) the same thing.

  3. Myiq2xu says:
  4. leslie says:

    If I hear one more complaint from one more talking head about Toya “beating her son goes back to slavery” and how I or others approve because we still think of blacks as slave-worthy, I’m going to scream. Frankly, I’ve never EVER thought of AAs as anything other than people. NOT people of color, but PEOPLE. And never been accused of being racist until bronco bama ran for president. In fact, I was often identified as a “n-word lover” by people who were bigots. But this rush to name calling and race based ideology is making me ill.
    I’m going out to wash window screens and use this energy for something positive. $/!-&?)/!(!@.

    • lyn says:


    • mothy67 says:

      The talking hards are really quite daft. Guess that what happens when you are shielded from any criticism. All of your thoughts were special. I thought Ezra and Cher were the reigning champs but it looks like Sally Kohn is giving them a run for their money. She is on her own planet. How The View didn’t recruit her to the coven is beyond me.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      All I saw was a mother who cared enough for her child to endanger herself to try and pull him out of the fray. She used the means she felt necessary and did indeed remove him from the scene . No harm other than a bit a bruised ego that his mother got the best of him. I hope it sticks with him and helps him make better choices in the future. And that he is there for his mother when she needs him.

    • foxyladi14 says:


    • 49erDweet says:

      This conversation is also going on right now within the “black” community. The language is even more intense than here at TCH. The ‘back to slavery’ adherents are getting their butts waxed by the ‘take care of my kid’ crowd, about 5 to 1 by my count.
      I call the ‘back to slavery’ crowd “Professional Blacks”, and the ‘take care of my kid’ bunch “people”.

  5. mothy67 says:

    The pressure to not do criminal background checks is absurd. When I owned a small business I needed to know if the person was honest. Shoplifting may not be a violent crime but why would anyone give someone the responsibility to handle money if they were caught stealing. Insane.

  6. swanspirit says:

    Not only is prejudice no excuse, it isn’t the reason for high crime rates either.
    An excellent read.

    New York City, which two decades ago transitioned away from nearly half a century of Democratic leadership, serves as a case study not only of how left-wing law-enforcement policies helped breed crime and chaos for a long period of time, but also how the cessation of those policies caused crime to plummet almost instantly. From 1946 through 1993, New York was led, in succession, by the following Democratic mayors: William O’Dwyer, Vincent Impellitteri, Robert Wagner, John Lindsay, Abraham Beame, Ed Koch, and David Dinkins. Under the stewardship of these men, the city’s crime rates rose sharply and consistently, as reflected most starkly in its homicide statistics. In 1960, some 482 homicides occurred within the confines of New York’s five boroughs. By 1970, that figure had risen to 1,117. In 1980, it was 1,814. The apex was reached under Mayor Dinkins in 1990, when 2,245 people lost their lives to violence. During the ensuing three years of Dinkins’ mayoralty, the city’s homicide totals were 2,154, then 1,995, and finally 1,946.

  7. Myiq2xu says:

    What a load of crap.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Hot Air:

      “I think it’s been unevenly spread,” Edwards said of, presumably, liberalism. “I would say, for example with our schools, just prior to the Freddie Gray incident, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake was actually prevailing upon our Republican governor to release money for school funding.”

      That makes sense. A GOP governor in office for four months prior to this latest outbreak of unrest is clearly to blame. To most neutral observers, it seems conflicting to argue that urban minorities have been neglected and abused for decades, and yet a GOP governor who hasn’t been in office for 18 weeks is responsible for this latest spasm of violence.

      That didn’t stop Edwards from arguing that more spending and wealth redistribution – e.g. the Democratic platform – is the only cure for what ails Baltimore.

      When Wallace noted that Baltimore spends the third highest amount per capita on its public schools “and the schools were still lousy,” Edwards declined to speculate on where that money was going. She merely asserted that it had been improperly allocated.

    • 1539days says:

      That example is hilarious. A student was complaining about reading a 20 year old book. I read 30 year old Latin books in HS. You know why? Because some things don’t change. You should probably freshen up the History book every 10 years, but Math is Math.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        A 20 year old book was published in 1995

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        We used to laugh when we found parents or even grandparents names in our religion books (Catholic school – each year you added you name to the list in the front of each text book – living history), Latin and other classic studies and literature. The money for newer books was spent on science and other areas where that material needed to be updated. We just assumed the nuns were being pragmatic. Our books were as new or newer than the public schools.

      • mothy67 says:

        Again as Baltimore became a sanctuary city what educational funds had to be allocated for ESL?

    • mcnorman says:

      I heard this shite everyday in the barrio. It didn’t mean a thing because the ones that cried the loudest never did much to advance themselves in anything but victimhood.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Another “Professional Black”.

  8. Myiq2xu says:
  9. 1539days says:

    There are those who got an education, learned enough etiquette and controlled their anger. One example is Ben Carson, who was such an angry kid he almost stabbed someone. Instead of being a stellar example of Black youth, he is derided by the same media that wrings its hands over the fate of Black America.

    Black America does pretty well when it sits in the middle of White America. Let’s say you are one of those Black guys who can’t get a home or a job as easily as a White guy in the same neighborhood. I bet you can still get those things easier than if you lived in a 95% White neighborhood.

    70% of African-Americans who escaped the lower 9th Ward after Katrina have not returned. Al-Jazeera claimed in a story it was because they didn’t get enough government money to build a new house. Maybe they found the greener pastures.

    • Lulu says:

      They got jobs in Houston and San Antonio because they didn’t have to join a union. The cost of living was cheaper too. They had been told all their lives there weren’t any jobs and just stay there and rot but there were in other states.

  10. 1539days says:

    Last week, I commented that gays who even talk to Ted Cruz have to be punished to keep a monolithic gay constituency in the Democratic Party. The sad part about Baltimore and most other big cities is that it’s not about who Black people are. It’s about the Democratic Party socially engineering monolithic voting blocks. If they have enough big cities with 98% Democrats, they can grab people off the street on Election Day until they win any presidential election. The rest of the time they have to pump up the fear and racism charges up to 11 to keep everyone in line.

    • mothy67 says:

      Don’t forget in PA a vote in the democratic party counts for more if it is cast in Philly than rural counties. What complete bull shit. The nee govnor wants to raise sales tax but not in Philly as the city already has its own. So they are going to raise it across the state and it is supposed to be for education. Philly gets no increase but the lion’s share will be spent in Philly. Yeah that’s fair.

  11. Myiq2xu says:

    White Privilege in action:

    • lyn says:

      Wish the chain would have come back to hit the punk-thug in the face.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Those actually aren’t “Washington citizens” rioting, I’ve heard. They apparently are from Kanaga Island in the Aleutian chain, and are rioting to be returned to their natural home. The sooner we round them up and ship them back, the sooner things return to normal in Seattle. All in favor?

  12. Myiq2xu says:

    They were mostly peaceful riots.

    • swanspirit says:

      More people lived on the street where I grew up, than live in John’s home town. He can go to the movies to see the opening of a major new movie, and have the empty theater all to himself. He literally has no clue. None whatsoever . But that doesn’t stop him from bloviating.
      I mean the mind boggles at what John has said, and how far from reality it is. It only took the presence of the Maryland National Guard to bring the city under control.
      One can only be grateful John isn’t in charge of anything more serious than a few video games.

      Do you want to know what is going on in the minds of Baltimore folk? They are hoping to get all this well past them , so it doesn’t interfere with the Preakness in two weeks. They may not say it right now, but trust me, that is what they are thinking. Trust me, when I tell you , Mayor Rawlings-Blake is having her Black Eyed Susan chapeau designed as we speak

    • 49erDweet says:

      Wrapping my mind around “extremely restrained rioting”. What I’m visualizing is six senior citizen’s clomping around making noise with their walker’s.

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  15. Myiq2xu says:

    Last night I had a dream involving “Urban Riot Action Figure” toys. Genius or insanity?

  16. Myiq2xu says:

    A play I had never seen before (runner hit by batted ball to end game) happened TWICE yesterday.

  17. Myiq2xu says:


    • Lulu says:

      He has zero, ZERO, background of any kind in economics, government or any other relevant field to make him conversant much less expert on trade, immigration, etc. He was an English major at BA, MA and post graduate. I would as soon listen to him about soil chemistry or classical music composition. He is a perfect example of an asshole. with an opinion. Everyone has both.

    • 1539days says:

      That guy is a big Libertarian. Libertarians are kind of the other side of the coin from Progressives. While Progs want to tell everyone what to do, Libertarians want almost no rules. Border security does not mean isolation. Supermax prisons have people going in and out all the time, but they know who all those people are. My definition of “secure” is that everyone has to check in, including the migrant workers. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit into his Max Mad world.

    • leslie says:

      NAFTA was hated by so many that Dennis Kucinich promised that if he were elected president, the first thing he would do, would be to revoke NAFTA.

  18. HELENK3 says:

    years ago I had a girl come in to the dept were I was a supervisor. She had on a shirt that said “IF you do not like my attitude, f–k you.”. she asked me what she had to do to work in my dept. My first thought was I do not need the problem. I told one of her friends to talk to her about the shirt.That way no one could scream racism. Last week I was coming out of a office dept store and there was a young girl wearing the exact same shirt. I stopped and talked to her for a minute. I told her about the girl from years ago and what my first thought was. I told her she could wear the shirt outside all she wanted but if she wanted any kind of a job do not wear that shirt to work. Do not know if I got through to her, but I did try.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Whenever I was starting a job search the first thing I did was get a haircut. The second thing I did was shave.

      I didn’t always wear a tie, but I always dressed nice and came prepared to fill out the application with pens and a list of prior employers and references. From the minute I pulled into the parking lot I was focused on making a good impression.

      When I did interviews I was on time, polite, gave a firm handshake (if a handshake was offered) and made sure to smile and make eye contact. No smart answers or flirting, etc.

      You only get one chance to make a first impression. Some people blow their chances before the prospective employer even has a chance to look at their qualifications.

  19. Janet Erwin says:

    “Makes sense” my ass!
    I dunno, maybe someone already made this point, but the idea that to move from one place to another is easy just frosts my azz. I haven’t moved for years (I own the condo I now live in) but I well remember having to move back in the day — none of which had anything to do with non-payment of rent, btw.
    It ain’t easy. In fact it sucks green dicks in hell, as a friend of mine used to say.

    I used to enjoy this blog, but you guys have moved so far to the right I don’t recognize this place anymore. (& btw, I voted for Sarah Palin the last time I voted in a national election, because I’m a proud Liberal and she was by far the most liberal of the candidates.)

    So maybe I’ll see ya around….unless I see you first.

    • angienc says:

      Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, fuck head.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Thank you for your kind thoughts and best wishes.

    • 1539days says:

      The fact that it isn’t easy to move is pretty apparent. It shouldn’t even be the right answer. But if you are in one of those hell holes right now, if you have a family to raise or a life you want to create, I suspect it will be easier to go to another environment than fight through the current one.

    • lyn says:

      Out west we always moved to the new jobs, and most the time we never visited our new town or city before the move. In the ’80s, we moved seven times over seven years. We’ve lived in one place now for 26 years. Today’s post makes sense to me, and I’m a moderate. We all have different life experiences, but we have to make the best life possible for ourselves and for our families. It’s not easy, but anything beats the alternative. To blame others is a cop out.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Wow, lots of anger over just the move bit. But that’s been a long tradition throughout the world. Migrate where the work and opportunity is. That’s what we has humans have always done and will always do. Sounds like you have some issues there. And by the way, what does the recommendation to move where the work is have anything on earth to do with right or left politics? Again, issues perhaps.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Ever seen The Grapes of Wrath? That’s what my family looked like when they moved to California during the Dust Bowl. It wasn’t easy.

      I have moved several times as an adult. Sometimes I was moving up, and sometimes I was moving down.

      If you live in a hellhole you still have options. You can move in search of greener pastures. You can stay where you are and try to make the best of it. Or you can sit on your ass and complain, demanding someone else make your life better.

      • DandyTIger says:

        Staying put and complaining is classic victim behavior. Why won’t someone come and give me stuff and make it all better…. whaaaaaaaaa….

  20. mothy67 says:

    I went to 6 different schools before college. We moved because we had no choice. Sure I wish I had gone through the normal socialization process instead of always being the new kid, but it also had benefits. Always on the outside gives you a different vantage point. Peer pressure was never an issue and group think frightens me. Lucky to have a big family so isolation not an issue.
    We were poor and welfare was not an option. Today CHIP lessons the fear of your kid getting sick. We had no phone but went to the dentist. My mom was 15 when she had my older brother, high school drop out, 5 kids. She became an RN and my dad got an associates.

    Life isn’t fair but if you are waiting for a bus and it doesn’t show up you can continue to sit or you can start walking.

    • DandyTIger says:

      That last paragraph sums it all up nicely.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      I can’t tell you how many times I heard someone in drug court telling the judge they didn’t get signed up for the diversion program because they didn’t have a ride. The standard response was something like “I bet if someone had some dope for you that you would find a ride.”

      • Myiq2xu says:

        One of my all-time favorite appellate cases is one where a guy was brought into court for contempt due to non-payment of child support. The judge asked him why he didn’t pay child support and the guy said “I didn’t have a job.” The judge told him, “Then you’ll have to find a job – when you get out. 30 days in jail!”

        The Cal Supremes upheld the judge saying that forcing someone to support their kids did not violate the 13th Amendment.

  21. DandyTIger says:

    I love a good drive by troll.

  22. Myiq2xu says:

    I had to take my mom shopping this afternoon. Walmart and Food Maxx. It was hot and crowded, and my dogs were barking even before we left Wally World.

    Mom didn’t buy me beer like she usually does. She got me a bottle of Maker’s Mark instead.

    I❤ my mom.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I had to look Maker’s Mark up on the internet thingy. Given my Scotch/Irish heritage I am woefully unread on such things outside learning that Glenfiddich is much better then Canadian Club in a hot toddy. Was this in honor of the Kentucky Derby weekend?

  23. Myiq2xu says:

    OMG – Julianne Moore may have found the role she was meant to play!

    Remember the crazy ass mom in Carrie?

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Chloe Grace Moretz is too pretty to play an ugly duckling like Carrie White. Sissy Spacek wasn’t naturally beautiful.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        Final verdict: If you have never seen the original, this remake is pretty damn good. Not perfect, but in some ways it’s better than the first. Better production values, for example.

  24. mothy67 says:

    I am okay with medicaid, CHIP, legitimate subsidised housing, free school lunches, 9.99 internet (with a $150 desktop if your kid gets free lunch), lfeline phone programs, welfare, reduced utilities , daycare for US citizens not illegals. Not so much with the oft abused Earned Income Credit.
    Thing is if you are a single parent with two kids are you worse off working a 32,000 a year retail management job? Of course if you opt to not get off assistance ten years from now you will be in the same boat with nothing put away.
    I hear these young single parents whine all the time about how hard it is withban iPhone 6 plus in hand. A 900 dollar phone are you kidding me. Life line program does not include smartphones and boy do they bitch about that because of course the basic human needs are food, clothing, shelter and facebook.
    All of the people I know in this predicament are white in their twenties shacking up with baby daddy but not marrying because that would cut off benefits. They also exist in fantasy worlds. Never opened a book in high school but decide to take out 50 grand to go to a for profit training school that has no standards for admission. Sure you read on a 6th grade level take out a loan become a non accredited paralegal.

  25. Myiq2xu says:
  26. Myiq2xu says:

    Oh shit:

    • DandyTIger says:

      CNN and MSNBC are spinning it as an anti-muslim group that was hurting the feeewings of muslims.

      • mothy67 says:

        Fine a Christian baker 135,000 for not baking a cake, but bombs ans assault rifles are okay if you hurt feelings.
        The world has gone mad. Thugs getting respect. Men and women in blue who put their lives on the line everyday are attacked.

      • Lulu says:

        It was “provocative” is the narrative. At the same center a bunch of radical Muslims held a convention/meetings in January. That wasn’t provocative for some unknown reason. If we would just stop being provocative they won’t come shoot us and poor guys in a red pick up won’t have to shoot unarmed school district security guards walking around in parking lots. Just don’t set them off and everything will be OK. Crazy people won’t hurt you. Be nice. Smile. Wear a burka.

  27. Myiq2xu says:

    Is it racist that I sometimes call my orange cat Tigger, “My Tigga?”

  28. Myiq2xu says:
    • mothy67 says:

      That Jennifer is no happy.
      I don’t get that my way or the highway mentality. I find it much easier to learn by being contrary. I relish looking at things from different perspectives and I sure as hell know I must have a few things wrong. Progs shut doen any and all debate. They say illegal immigration is good for the economy. I query how. They respond shut up raycist. Go watch FOX. Huh?
      I am viewed by them as some sort of monster for questioning. Never should have gotten this far but I don’t think a 25 year old brought here at age 3 needs to be deported. We do have to look at the cost. Friends for over 25 years call me a bigot for supporting religious freedom. I get asked you lived in Manhattan how can you be so closed minded. Laughable. The people that takr offense to American pride think they are superior because of a zip code. The hypocrisy is boundless.

    • piper says:

      SMH – poor widdle RD who refuses to see reality. Perhaps the fumes from remodeling her new home are affecting her reasoning skills. Although both parties are corrupt the Dems with their ego maniac leader are leading the charge, and hopefully one day I won’t have to decide who to vote for based on the lesser of 2 evils.
      Back to the dungeon for some quiet time knitting, reading, drinking oh so good coffee and eating delicious scones. Voluntary exile!!!! 😇

    • elliesmom says:

      Any way we can invite Jennifer to join us here? I’d do it, but I’m not allowed to comment there.

  29. mothy67 says:

    Isis taking credit.
    Does it occur to any of our illustrious leaders that allowing Ferguson and Baltimore to go unchecked is an encouragement to terrorists?

    • Myiq2xu says:

      I’m kinda wasted right now but remind me to tell you my theory on busting shoplifters.

      • mothy67 says:

        My retired father took a job at Wally World as a greeter. He quit because the theft was too much for him. Nothing happens except the cost is passed on to every one else.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I spent a year as a loss control manager for one of Wally’s main Kompetitors, and we lost nearly half a million in “shrinkage” that year. And we weren’t even in a high crime area.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Is it the one involving huge vats of animal urine? You may have mentioned it once or twice.

    • piper says:

      Tired of wondering if I’m a racist – never thought about it until 2008 when I refused to follow the dems down the rabbit hole and vote for someone based solely on skin color. Grew up in diverse neighborhoods, taught schools in multigeneder fair cultural diverse systems and live now in a mixed area – my standard is to treat everyone with respect and hopefully in turn they will treat me the same not with derision. 🌍
      BTW – just learned how to do emojis in Yosemite.

  30. piper says:

    Before I go for the day, here are a couple of shares from NQ

  31. piper says:

    Last one

  32. Myiq2xu says:

    The Klown is having a very rough Monday morning. It’s gonna be awhile before I can post anything.

  33. DandyTIger says:

    Dem policy machine:

  34. DandyTIger says:

    The baby has been named, it’s Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.

  35. HELENK3 says:

    cop just shot another one in Baltimore. here we go again breaking on Fox now

  36. Myiq2xu says:

    New thread up!

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