Arguing With Idiots


Tentacle Porn Boy isn’t the only idiot out there.

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If people quit buying burgers, what happens to all those burger flipping jobs?

Notice that he never answered my original question. If we can wave a magic wand and raise the minimum wage without any negative side effects, why stop at $15 per hour? Why not $25 or $50?


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117 Responses to Arguing With Idiots

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    It’s really hard to write posts with starving Kittehs in your face. Taggart keeps knocking stuff off my desk.

  2. elliesmom says:

    I think I’ve written before about automation at the McDonald’s in my town. Two drive through lanes, one person to take money unless you’re using a debit/credit card, then you just pay a machine. One person handing out food. In off hours those two jobs are handled by one person. Inside automated kiosks take orders. It’s all pictures so there’s no language barrier. The machine inside takes cash as well as cards so no one works the order counter unless a problem arises. You get your own soda and coffee so one or two people can easily handle giving out the food. There’s one or two people cooking depending on the hour of the day. A person cleaning. And the store manager who jumps into trouble spots. At peak times there may be as many as 8 people in the store. In off hours, there are as few as 4. That’s less than half the staff there was two years ago, and the store runs much more efficiently than it did then.

    The problem with the idiot you engaged on Twitter is he thinks the company will take the extra salary out of their profits. But first the business tries to keep or increase its profits through cutting costs. When it can’t do that, it raises the price of its products. Never is reducing its profits on the preferred list of things it can do to mitigate rising costs. I don’t know how the costs to McDonalds work out with replacing people with machines. I know there are fewer jobs for teenagers and moms looking for part-time work. The only full time employee for sure is the manager. I’m not sure any of the shift managers who work when the manager doesn’t are full-time. I know no one who eats there cares. The place is more efficient, the food is the same, the store is spotless, and the machines are never rude. If the prices have gone up, it’s because McDonald’s raised its prices everywhere.

  3. Lulu says:

    When the owner of a business makes less NET profit that what he pays out per employee annually they close. And move to Austin. I think it is Seattle (?) where a recent Beard Award winning chef closed his little restaurant when faced with paying his bus boy more that he could net per year. The ignoranti became butthurt and badmouthed him. So he moved to Austin to open a food truck. His customers in the genius and highly educated Seattle wanted him to work for free so they could have fresh seafood prepared perfectly and served to them at their convenience. So the economic, really bookkeeping level, dumbassery runs deep. They want what they want and no one can explain to them why they are going to be cooking their own food for themselves or starve.

    • leslie says:

      A major tech company is cutting 15% of its work force today. Why? Q1 and Q2 profits were down and the shareholders will not tolerate losing their share of the decreased profits again. My daughter still has her job, but not everyone on her team does (as of today) . I wonder how @Michael2014abc will feel when his job is lost due to lower profits.

      • 1539days says:

        My company (which may have something to do with McDonalds) has a Board of Directors that wants to spend as little as possible. The president of my division has to approve the hire of a temporary shipping clerk. Employees are one of the biggest expenses and there are new and exciting opportunities for engineers who can invent non-human workers.

  4. HELENK3 says:

    just out of curiosity how many Americans will be going to Disney this year?. they got rid of American workers and hired foreign workers that the American workers had to train.

  5. HELENK3 says:

    ah those unforeseen consequences,they get you every time

  6. cynic says:

    My cousin’s daughter works at a very small, mom and pop, ice cream stand during her summer breaks from college.

    Last year, in IL, they were really pushing upping the minimum wage. The owner of the ice cream shop told my cousin that she would be closing the place if it passed.

    There are so many clueless people out there that think this only touches those evil corporations.
    We need someone to explain how much these small businesses pay in, 1) Rent for the building,
    2) Liability insurance, workmans comp, etc., 3) Utility bills, 4) Cost of the merchandise.

    Now, how much can you charge for a burger or ice cream sundae to pay for all those things,
    pay your employees, and STILL make a profit???

    Who needs those headaches?

    We had a friend that owned a couple of the Baskin Robbins franchises. He had employees that would forget to lock the door, or not show up.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I remember when the left was boycotting the arrival of Starbucks in NYC because they destroyed the mom and pop diners in the city. They don’t seem to care about good ole’ mom and pop anymore.

  7. driguana says:

    And these units don’t even replace the burger flippers, just the people who always mess up your order and don’t give you the correct change…

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Does anybody know the credibility of this “news” site ? It usually shows up as proof of something or other in liberal talking points discussions. A quick scan of the headlines seems more like the Official GOP Hate Site.

  9. Dora says:

    OT, but something awful happened on Long Island! Right on the property of the Brentwood Country Club too, where I would have thought it was safe. Oh this poor, poor girl.

    N.Y. girl ‘barbarically’ raped by illegal alien teen gangsters from El Salvador

  10. HELENK3 says:

    off topic.
    thought MYIQ and 49er would like this

  11. Anthony says:

    I always thought minimum wage jobs were a start point. If you have no skills (or are a student who just needs extra spending money to get through school), they serve as a means to acquire cash and skills so you can move up to a better paying position with better pay. Our special snowflakes (that WE raised, I might add), have a different perception.

    • mcnorman says:

      They are supposed to be a starting point. One hopes that the special snowflakes will want to grow and with that comes more money. They don’t want to wait and they really don’t want to earn it.

    • elliesmom says:

      Speak for yourself. I didn’t raise any special snowflakes. They both started out bagging groceries for minimum wage. And they walked to work until they saved up enough money for a down payment on a used car.

      • DeniseVB says:

        When I was a young mom, a wise older mom with grown, successful kids gave me some great advice….learn to say no and don’t make the nest too comfortable or you’ll never get rid of them.

        My kids started in middle school. A lot of summer camps have CIT(Counselor-In-Training) programs. You still pay camp fees, but these kids become assistants to the paid counselors. Or as my son whined, I got to be running around in the hot sun while the paid guys sat in the shade. He aspired to be paid to sit in the shade.

        • leslie says:

          My kids started out teaching swimming and then lifeguarding. The boy was a counselor in training as well (he was paid with room and board). He later became a counselor and then a head counselor and then a camp director and now is a teacher and head of a camp program. He still isn’t being paid what he is worth (imo), but he is doing something worthwhile. He loves his jobs and is at least earning enough to keep his family fed and housed and clothed. He never complained about minimum wage – ever. My daughter – the swimmer did similar jobs until college. She was an intern at a large tech company and literally saved them millions while working as an intern. She is currently making (waaay) more than minimum wage and continues to work hard and keeps her job while the snowflakes who complained about the amount of work and their level of compensation have just received pink slips

      • Anthony says:

        Elliesmom, I have no children and forgive me if you thought I was directing that at you. I’m simply saying that our generation had a hand in producing the special little snowflakes.

  12. swanspirit says:

    What these folks who want a $15.00/hour minimum wage really want, is not the minimum wage at $15.00/hour. What they want is the American version of the Iron Rice Bowl, where you are taken care of from cradle to grave, without putting too much effort into sustaining that care.

    “Iron rice bowl” (simplified Chinese: 铁饭碗; traditional Chinese: 鐵飯碗; pinyin: tiě fàn wǎn) is a Chinese term used to refer to an occupation with guaranteed job security, as well as steady income and benefits.[1] The Chinese term can be compared to the similar (but not identical) English concept of a breadwinner with cradle to grave socialism. Traditionally, people considered to have iron rice bowls include military personnel, members of the civil service, as well as employees of various state run enterprises (through the mechanism of the work unit).[2]

    Because the “Iron Rice Bowl” guaranteed a stable standard of living regardless of the amount of effort made by the worker, the term is used to describe extremely unmotivated and unproductive workers.

    Recent moves at cutting benefits and privatization of various state run businesses in Taiwan such as the Taiwan Railway Administration and China Airlines have led many in those industries to believe that their iron rice bowls are in jeopardy, and has led to strikes (and threats thereof), as well as being the subject of much political debate.
    In China[edit]
    When Deng Xiaoping began his labor reforms in the People’s Republic of China in the 1980s to boost economic productivity, the government iron rice bowl jobs were some of the first to go.[3]

    China’s dilemma is that it is afraid to smash the iron rice bowl because it fears that the social stability that has sustained its reform program would shatter with it. Nevertheless, state-owned enterprises are floundering as subsidies are withdrawn. The government is desperately looking for buyers but they are hard to find. The budget subsidies that once sustained state enterprises and kept the iron rice bowl intact dried up as the capital needs of modernizing enterprises soared while their fiscal contributions plummeted. The government still offers some subsidies, but it will soon have no choice but to close down most state enterprises. As many as 15 million workers will be unemployed and many thousands are likely to take to the streets in protest. For Beijing, time is running out. As a condition for joining the World Trade Organization in 2001, China had to “break the Iron Rice bowl”, a step that was disputed by some economists.[4][5]

    Efforts to break the iron rice bowl continued in Guangdong province in 2011 with a new plan of grassroots recruitment, employment by contract, and pay based on performance. The new arrangement will be included in the 12th Five-year plans of the People’s Republic of China (2011-2015).[6]

    Other uses[edit]
    In the Western society, the term has a similar usage. It has been popularized by Richard Lindzen in reference to government-funded scientists and labs that use their research results to justify continued government funding. Lindzen’s thesis is that the intrinsic link between reporting and funding provides incentives to report research results in such a way as to ensure continued funding.[7] The related term “rice bowl” often refers to a military project which is being protected in the interests of a particular department rather than wider needs.[1]

    I think that is what happened to RD . Someone smashed her Iron Rice Bowl , and not only can she not deal with it, she has rationalized moving into the camp that she thinks will restore it.

  13. Myiq2xu says:

  14. Dora says:

    Another terrible photo. Where do they find them all?

    New Hampshire Poll: Majority of DEMOCRATS Prefer Candidate Other Than Hillary

  15. votermom says:

    Re the discussion in a recent thread about adoption by same sex couples

  16. Myiq2xu says:
  17. DeniseVB says:

    This is about right….upside down world indeed !

  18. Myiq2xu says:

  19. Propertius says:

    And if cutting wages improves the economy, why not go whole hog and just repeal the 13th Amendment?

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Did I miss something? Who said cutting wages improves the economy?

      • DandyTIger says:

        Didn’t you know, the only choices are either having the state legislating prosperity via wage controls, or having the magical demons of evil big business getting together and cutting wages. If you’re a statist, there is only a big powerful thing making the rules. Nothing else is possible.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I am frequently amazed at the things people assume I believe. Apparently thinking for yourself is unpopular.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I’ve never read about wage cutting here ? Maybe it’s like if we’re not in favor of $15 min wage we must be in favor of cutting wages? I think I read it in Alinsky’s Power Points for Socialists ?

    • votermom says:

      Slaves can’t be fired.

  20. foxyladi14 says:

    Party all the time! 😡

  21. Myiq2xu says:

    This just keeps getting better and better:

    • mcnorman says:

      I have to wonder how that got past the NAACP?

    • DandyTIger says:

      I’m white, I’m black… maybe she’s just acting out the Jackson song.

    • leslie says:

      Had to set straight some of our special snowflakes last weekend. They wanted to know “what difference does it make if Rachel D claimed to be black even if she were white. She didn’t hurt anyone by it. Besides her father is black.”
      Srsly, I nearly took them to the woodshed. After I explained/corrected/showed them the error of their belief in reading headlines and huffpo and other sites, they were stunned into silence. I can’t wait to show them she tried to sue Howard University for discriminating against her because she is white.

      • DeniseVB says:

        It’s not that she lied about her race, it’s what she personally gained by doing so (cough, Warren, cough). I live in a very diverse neighborhood with all flavors of races and cultures. Some of the mixed race families have the most beautiful children I’ve ever seen. My favorite “blend” is the black-irish, soft carmel complexions with the most piercing green eyes I’ve ever seen. I wouldn’t question Rachel’s “race” claim at all. She just lied about it.

        • leslie says:

          And that’s what the snowflakes are all about. They think its okay to lie if they gain something and really don’t think about the effects on others. If someone unintentionally gets hurt by the lie, so be it.

  22. Dora says:

    Look who’s getting into the race. $9 bil! How can he count it all?

    Donald Trump will declare $9 billion in assets as he reveals 2016 plans

    • DeniseVB says:

      I would vote for Trump over a Dem. He already owns the historic home in Florida that was once designated the Florida White House.

  23. Myiq2xu says:
    • leslie says:

      This is what nightmares are made of.

      • SHV says:

        “This is what nightmares are made of.”
        Nightmare….Last Spring my 80 yo sister was working in her garden, went inside to use the bathroom and a snake came out of the toilet between her legs. By her account, it was a surprise but didn’t cause her any lasting effects…Depression era women are tough!!!

        • leslie says:

          I remember when you shared that story. I haven’t peed in the toilet since without thinking of it.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wll. Not. Play. That. Video.

    • swanspirit says:

      OH SHIT!!! Gave me the shivers …..And apples sometimes have have worms …

    • leslie says:

      I usually buy a piece of fruit at the market on my way home. This put a stop to that little treat. No bananas for me again unless they’re already peeled and cut up. (and green)

    • Jeffhas says:

      Yeah – umm, that banana looks likes it has been housing spiders for some time – I want to know how many more were in there, ’cause that banana hasn’t been edible by humans for awhile (IMO).

  24. Myiq2xu says:
    • leslie says:

      Thank heaven they’re away. That crew might have insinuated themselves into the Blackhawks’ game tonite. I’m on the train going home to not watch it until the last 45 seconds again. It’s called magical thinking. 🙂

    • swanspirit says:

      And once again her dress is plug ugly… The DM is calling it a cocktail dress. ..don’t we all travel in ugly cocktail dresses? I know I do….;)

      • insanelysane says:

        Clearly, Michelle has not heard of the term demure. Why does she have to be the loudest dress in the stadium?

    • leslie says:

      Are you serious!!! The dress is a combo of tee shirt and lace with a BLACK backside. Jeebus ! Who in the hell dresses her???

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Did Harry pull the short straw?

      That dress looks like a home economics project put together from the remnants in fabric section at 4:00 am on the day it is due.

  25. Myiq2xu says:

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