Greece Votes To Defy Gravity



Greece has become a battleground for the worst ideas of the 20th century

Which of these do you find more repugnant: an autocratic European Union which is no longer bothering to conceal its intention to displace an elected government, or a shambolic clique of Left-wing fantasists who are propelling a country – and its hapless population – into economic ruin and political chaos?

It’s a tough call, isn’t it? Whatever happens in the Greek referendum on Sunday, it will not be the end of this pantomime. In fact, it is intended not to be the end, in spite of the Greek prime minister’s bizarre assertion last week that he could guarantee a deal would be made with the country’s creditors within 48 hours of a “no” vote – when, in fact, a “no” vote would effectively guarantee the impossibility of making such a deal since the answer “no” is a rejection of meaningful concessions to the creditors.

SPOILER: They voted “no” by a large margin.

There is no point any longer in trying to make sense of this. It has gone beyond sense. It is now incomprehensible in the strict technical meaning of the word. The “options” available are all catastrophic and delusional in varying degrees and combinations, and nobody is actually going to get to choose between them anyway – at least, nobody in Greece. To the extent that they have had any involvement – or culpability – in this matter, the Greek people must come to terms with the consequences of electing Russell Brand to head their government. Voters do have some responsibility for the choices that they make. That is what distinguishes mature democracy from the students’ union. But given the price that they are paying for that moment of mad frivolity, it seems harsh to condemn, especially as the prospect of fiscal rationality had already been ruined by the fecklessness of previous governments and external forces beyond their control.

But there is something to be learned from this: there has to be, doesn’t there? Otherwise it would just be too grotesquely stupid, too appalling, too depressing to be endured. The key is in the drama’s tragic inevitability (a subject which Greeks understand well): the two antagonistic camps in this epic confrontation are playing up to the worst possible caricatures of themselves. The EU or, properly speaking, the troika of international financial governance, are presenting themselves as a parody of merciless, demonic money-lenders who are now determined to humiliate and pauperise their victims. This theme of public mortification is one that Syriza has made much of. And their punitive repression appears to license childish rebellion on the part of those who resist their diktats.

Kinda makes you pray for SMOD to hurry up and get here, donit?

I confess that I don’t know how this is all gonna turn out, but history shows again and again that certain kinds of little events can trigger bigger events, like a few falling pebbles can trigger an avalanche. Greece is in the middle of one of those little events right now.

I say “little” because so far it’s only happening to Greece. But they aren’t the only ones involved, and some larger countries are in similar but less dire straits. One of those larger countries is us.

We are in debt up to our eyeballs and we keep borrowing and spending more and more every single day. If we had to vote on whether to keep defying gravity or consent to austerity, defying gravity would win in a landslide.

I don’t like austerity either, but it’s all I can afford.


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164 Responses to Greece Votes To Defy Gravity

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    To quote Captain Han Solo, “I got a bad feeling about this.”

  2. Myiq2xu says:

    Yanis Varoufakis, Greece’s embattled finance minister, has resigned his post, saying the move could help Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras reach an agreement with creditors.
    “I was made aware of a certain preference by some Eurogroup participants, and assorted ‘partners’, for my … ‘absence’ from its meetings; an idea that the Prime Minister judged to be potentially helpful to him in reaching an agreement,” Varoufakis wrote in a blog post early Monday.
    “For this reason I am leaving the Ministry of Finance today,” he continued. “I shall wear the creditors’ loathing with pride.”

    • Lulu says:

      I shall wear the creditors’ loathing with pride

      Double talk for “we’re in the shit now.” Do people think a pol is going to say “We’re so stupid!”

  3. Myiq2xu says:

    Oil falls on Greece vote, China stock market turmoil

    Oil prices fell sharply on Monday after Greece rejected debt bailout terms and as China rolled out emergency measures to prevent a full-blown stock market crash, adding to worries about poor demand growth at a time of global oversupply.

  4. Myiq2xu says:

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  6. Myiq2xu says:

    • Lulu says:

      Is Ollie now the tabloid of twits? He just sits all day on a dirty couch running the news aggregators getting fatter and typing crap out on his old Apple laptop. Get a JOB! A real job! Does Soros pay in Ding Dongs and Cheetos?

    • Somebody says:

      Talk about click bait. Old Ollie is trying to stir some shit with his fake story.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Feeble attempt at satire, not funny at all.

  7. Dora says:

    Socialism’s Greek Staring Contest

    The day will come when America faces its own inner Greece.

  8. Myiq2xu says:

    • leslie says:

      Some updates to this story about Chicago’s gun violence over the weekend.
      The father of the 7 year old is a known gang member who, it is thought, was the target. It was reported he was being uncooperative with the police investigation. (
      The stats r/t the weekend are not quite accurate. The gun violence was actually being tracked beginning Thursday (because Thursday evening was the “start” of the weekend for most of the large Chicago and suburban businesses). There were 12 shootings and 4 deaths on Thursday. So there were “only” 3 fewer deaths this year than last year’s 4th of July holiday.
      I just heard a report that Garry McCarthy (Chgo PD Supt) “jumped the gun” so to speak, when he reported that the shots had been intended for the father. (I fancy the truth lies in the first report and the father is being uncooperative w/the CPD. It happens all the time here.)

  9. Lulu says:

    I read several articles outlining all the ways the Greeks did some very bad things to fuck up their entire society. Blaming the banks is not going to cut it. They have a voluntary income tax system where zillionaires declare that they make 12,0000 Euros a year. They declare massive mansions as shacks. They hide their swimming pools behind tall walls and camo tarps. Entire towns are on disability. Many retire at ridiculous ages. Too many have government jobs doing almost nothing. And basically the entire country is cheating at something. But if some people do why not everyone so a lot of it may be defensive for everyday people. Frankly most of their issues sound a lot like ours but they just don’t have as many assets to put up as collateral. I went to Athens and a couple of islands a very long time ago and it really is a beautiful place with charming people. But slippery slopes get everyone. Social welfare is great until every single person is getting a freebie check and drunk Brit and German tourists cannot pay for it all. Crashing and starting over may be the best thing in the end for beautiful Greece.

    • helenk3 says:

      sounds like backtrack’s kind of place. Can we send him there soon?

    • DeniseVB says:

      It sure does feel like we’re on that path. Bernie and Hillary are pretty much promising it will continue. Meanwhile the GOP continues to bicker among themselves……sigh.

      • Lulu says:

        I am hoping that the extraneous hangers on candidates (Santorum, Pataki, Christi, Huckabee, Graham) get a clue after the debate and go away. I think the bickering and sniping over immigration will shut down since Trump shot up in the polls and didn’t have to spend a dime to do it. He is making them look like elites butt kissers. Cruz has managed to get into Trump’s slipstream and let Trump take incoming fire which is brilliant in a fighter pilot sort of way.

        • leslie says:

          This is because Cruz is the smartest man on the planet.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Well played, Ted Cruz, well played❤ Found the quote in the WaExaminer:

          “I salute Donald Trump for focusing on the need to address illegal immigration,” Mr. Cruz said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

          “The Washington cartel doesn’t want to address that. The Washington cartel doesn’t believe we need to secure the borders. The Washington cartel supports amnesty, and I think amnesty’s wrong. And I salute Donald Trump for focusing on it,” Mr. Cruz said.

          He said Mr. Trump “has a colorful way of speaking. It’s not the way I speak. But I’m not going to engage in the media’s game of throwing rocks and attacking other Republicans.”

    • Lulu says:

      It was FUN in a demented spend the drug cartel money before they catch and kill us sort of way. THEN you die. Grasshoppers and ants. Germans are ants. Greeks are grasshoppers. Or crab bucket. Does Europe go crab bucket.

  10. Dora says:

    He has done this before, so by now it’s no big deal.

    I don’t recall ever feeling such disdain for a person. Just saying his name leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I just can’t help it. 😦

    Obama disappears, abandons press corps

    • Lulu says:

      Greece was infantilizeded by the EU mommie style of governing. Have you ever seen a teen or young adult with the credit cards or allowance cut off? Fury, screaming, falling around, threats, etc. One of my kids did that in college. I sent him a small crate of oatmeal. He had to get a job at UPS slinging boxes at night to pay his rent. And go to class during the day. Now he is Mr Hard-ass on budgets in his work and personal life. Sub-contractors fear the cancellation of the job and girlfriends are told to spend less or else. Otherwise a sweet boy. All because of that crate of oatmeal.

  11. Dora says:

    And here comes the one world government! Yikes!

    The Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-Moon. Secretary Moon admitted that in September World Leaders, including President Obama,are set to sign a new international development agreement to eradicate poverty:

    U.N. Sec-Gen: “Obama To Sign International Agreement To End Global Poverty” (VIDEO)

    • Mary says:

      Greece actually lied about the amount of their national debt when they “applied” for EU membership years ago, anyway. Know who helped them massage those numbers? Goldman Sachs.

      They knowingly lied just to join. True story.

  12. helenk3 says:

    off topic

    this was made six years ago as a joke
    the politically correct dukes of hazard

  13. helenk3 says:

    after the supreme court rulings on obamacare and gay marriage, who did not see this coming?

  14. Myiq2xu says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      The biggest salaries for exec’s can often be found in non-profits.

      • Lulu says:

        The elites also use the non-profits for a dumping ground for their idiot spawn and use the tax write-off to support them and get other suckers to help out giving them a job, keeping them out of trouble, and supporting them in the manner to which they are accustomed for a tax scam. I looked up the dopes that run the local PBS and public radio and all of them are trust funders running low of cash. AND they are “funny” looking like the Hapsburg’s if you catch my drift.

    • blowme0bama says:

      Of course it is. They have to do something with what would otherwise be “profits”, so they distribute them in salaries.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Because socializing with tweeps is mongo-exhausting labor.

        • Lulu says:

          I had a late friend who would call in to public radio every year during “the begging time”. He would say in his loudest twangy-est voice that he was “DONATING FIVE DOLLARS!” because that was all the programing was worth. The geniuses at public radio fell for it every year.

  15. DandyTIger says:

    Actual Thatcher quote from a TV interview: “…and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people’s money. It’s quite a characteristic of them.” Popular quote attributed, which might have been made, but no verification: “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money”

    It wouldn’t be so fun to quote if it didn’t happen every time. Apparently math is hard for the far left.

    • Lulu says:

      So is cause and effect. If you say cost/benefit analysis they loose their shit.

    • leslie says:

      Please speak to my friends who repeatedly scream about Rauner’s cold heart and his lack of compassion and call him evil. When I try to point out that the mess Illinois is currently in is due to the Democrats who have given money hand over fist to benefit the poor and the unions with nothing to refill the coffers except our taxes and my pension, they look at me as if I’m the enemy; I’m the devil; I’m the reason Illinois is in this mess. They cannot see -they think that because their hearts are in the right place – that Rauner is trying to correct the path we are on to real ruin. Rauner sees that it is salvageable with sacrifice on everyone’s part. I’m not certain he is correct though. But I’m willing to give him a chance to fix things.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Feeewlings trump logic. Resistance is futile.

        • Lulu says:

          And if they can’t “feel good about themselves” in a way that they don’t lift a finger they might off themselves. Altruism by proxie so they can continue to be assholes personally.

          • 49erDweet says:

            Spreading the misery among the populace has become an art form for dirt bags.

          • blowme0bama says:

            TRUE. I’ve LONG noted that Hollyweird’s obsession with the trendiest social justice bullshit cause of the day was so they could hold themselves out, in their mind, as some sort of virtuous paragon while they continued on with the vile personal hedonism.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Math is never a subject with which they agree. It has so many silly rules. Just ignore math. Not important.

  16. angienc says:

    We already had the vote between defying gravity or facing reality in 2012 — remember the trashing of Mitt for daring to say we shouldn’t be borrowing $ to fund Sesame Street? If people think it is horrible to cut government funding for fucking Sesame Street good luck getting them to accept cutting welfare benefits. Why should able-bodied people have to work to get food and a place to live you meanie?!?!?!
    I hope Greece takes the opportunity to go back to a devalued drachma, which will help it with tourism, and get a competent government to replace the idiot Tapirs. But I doubt it. That said the EU beuacracy is no better– livid at the audacity that the people would have a chance to vote on their “deal.” Fuck them too.
    Oh look -a socialist centralized government fails. Again. This is my shocked face.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Yeah, like with Greece, the rest of the EU countries, I think the US is in the same state of denial or crazy prog/socialist thinking. Print money forever. Print some trillion dollar coins. What could possibly go wrong.

    • leslie says:

      We already had the vote between defying gravity or facing reality in 2012 — remember the trashing of Mitt for daring to say we shouldn’t be borrowing $ to fund Sesame Street? If people think it is horrible to cut government funding for fucking Sesame Street good luck getting them to accept cutting welfare benefits. Why should able-bodied people have to work to get food and a place to live you meanie?!?!?!

      Absolutely, angie.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      I love it when you talk dirty.

    • Jadzia says:

      There you are! I was hoping you would weigh in on this, it’s really interesting to hear the opinion of somebody who knows Greece as well as you do.

  17. DandyTIger says:

    My feeling given the way the EU is structured with the monetary policy being technocrats without any democratic mechanisms, is good for Greece. The whole EU is doomed to failure. Let Greece go back to printing pretend money if that’s what their population wants.

    • angienc says:

      Everyone who isn’t a pol, a journalist or other EU “elite” thinks a Grexit is a good idea. So you know that will not happen — the EU elites will not allow it.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Yep. The dream of a united Europe is much more important than the reality of a dysfunctional federation of failing states.

        • Lulu says:

          Then they start the domino effect. Spain and Portugal are next. Then France. It is a pyramid scheme or crab bucket may be more accurate.

          • 49erDweet says:

            I love that visual. Takes me back to fishing off the Redondo Beach pier with my grandmother, before WWII. And bait buckets. Ugh!

  18. leslie says:

    I’m leaving to face SSA and explain that with my annual income being cut by two-thirds, I simply cannot pay the extraordinary fees they want to charge me for Medicare.

    • lyn says:

      Good luck. Hope you return with all four limbs.

    • SHV says:

      “I’m leaving to face SSA and explain that with my annual income being cut by two-thirds,”
      I remember that…SSA uses tax info that is 2(?) years old to do their Medicare calculations.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      I remember when liberals wanted “Medicare for all.”

      • SHV says:

        Medicare has saved me a lot of money compared to my previous “high-end” private medical insurance. Fewer problems, also. “Medicare for all” is/was the best way to go but the Insurance industry funded the Dems and Obama inorder to kill that possibility for several generations, at least.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Hope you took reading material……

      • leslie says:

        Holy Toledo 49er, They called my number 5 minutes after I got there.! I got out with my life, too. It was a miracle……………….🙂

        • 49erDweet says:

          What have they done with the real SSA? The one you were in must still be on training wheels. That’s no way to treat a customer!

          • leslie says:

            Even better . . . I returned a couple of hours later with my younger dtr, and they remembered me and smiled and asked if they could help me !! It’s a miracle.

  19. 1539days says:

    Greece is just extorting the banks now. They know the economy will sag world wide if they default, so they want to see how much free money they can get for a little longer.

    • Lulu says:

      The problem is that they had already been doing that and the election is the final FU. If they give them anymore then they got problems with the German voters. This was kind of the last helicopter out of Saigon.

  20. mothy67 says:

    It is quite scary. Most of our major cities do not have the revenue to cover all the obligations. At some point the adults have to stand up and take charge. I tried to read and figure out how becoming a sanctuary city is good for the economy. I do not have access to exact figures but i can estimate. Pittsburgh offers sanctuary that welfare money comes from the state which means everyone else bears the burden please explain how thousands of unskilled workers using assistance is good for all. I am told all the time it does not effect school or thier budgets. How does an influx of illegal kids not strain the system. I reside in a burb right out of the city. My property tax is the largest in the area. Kid goes to to a small school. It’s worth it but they had to let go of music, French a custodian and a social worker. More state money now goes to the city. Several of us tried to figure out a way to keep the music teacher. You cannot do it because of union rules. The money was there privately but she had to be employed by the borough. She is going to teach out of her own home. Not that expensive. I pay 100 a month for two 30 minute piano lessons a week. These spend spend spend tax and spend people ignore reality. You get these people who pay no tax demanding more and more. When you say wait a minute this can’t be done there is just no funds you get told you hate kids or you are a racist. Really the black kids parents in my pups school are MDs. Girls softball is big here. The teams have to pay to use the field. Common sense. If you cannot pay you can sell lotery tickets. Never enough when you give people stuff they did not work for they want more. My brat is almost 9 grows like a wildflower( one of my favorite songs by Dolly, Linda and Emmylou) Grows out of things most of us just give it to a kid that needs it. I am not gonna sell a bat on craigslist or ebay. There is one single mom that sends her kid off for a day with no money or water. Everyone else is supposed to provide. How hard is it to fill up a bottle from the tap. They always have makeup games due to rain. Will play three games in a day. A kid needs to eat. Place is hardcore about girls softball. Every year girls get scholarships. Boys not a big deal at all. All about the girls. Very refeshing. Is it too much to ask to just inform others your kid has no money. Tragic when a kid asks you to buy food. I can feed a kid but I’d like to know. I can stop at subway before. The park food is expensive. I sometimes have no cash. You can use debit nearly everywhere or there is a cash machine not in the park. I think my point is when did poverty and obligations become something to embrace. I would walk on my school clothes in the bathtub and then iron them dry. When and how did it become the norm to be dependent. My youth was flat assed broke. We had a toyota Corolla and it gets damp here in the morning. My dad would use a hair dryer on the engine so it would start. I could tell a million stories of real poverty. I wanted Izod shirts so badly. I wore kmart layaway. I have lived in Philly, London, NYC, Paris. I fucking won the lottery by being born in this country. Seems like now everyone is a victim. I refuse to buy this noise about 1 percenters spoken by 1 percenters. . I care as much as I can about a young girl. I found her at a few months old in a daycare center. Smelled like poop kids just held in cages. New Yorks latest mayor wants that to be the norm. My crud never went back to that hell. He sees that as the future. No I want to scream no this is not right but it is taking place. I got lucky with this kid I took her out after a week. What became of all those kids that no one picked up. Wards of the state

  21. votermom says:

    OT question
    What do you guys think of free email providers that are not gmail or yahoo?
    I want to set up a new email for (looking for) online work and a separate one for banking.
    Any recs?
    Anyone like any of these?

    • 49erDweet says:

      I use for one of mine and it’s fine. I actually run 9 email accounts to keep my interests compartmentalized, and I recommend textmail as the best account manager app. It saves beaucoup time.

      • votermom says:

        Thanks! I’ll look into both of those.

      • 1539days says:

        Good advice. I’ve been looking to dump my paid e-mail provider.

      • DandyTIger says:

        inbox is just google. The general rule for these things is, if the service is free, you are the product. Just FYI.

        • votermom says:

          Can’t afford paid right now. Just looking for email that doesn’t ask for my full name, birthday, and gender when I sign up.

          What do you think of hushmail and gmx?

        • 49erDweet says:

          It may be, DT, but nothing I’ve done on it has seemed to interconnect with G. A few of my accounts are or were on private or business nets, and it really has their “feel”. But you probably know better than I. G always wants to “help” me the others. 😊

    • leslie says:

      Thanks for posing the question, vm. I’ve been thinking about doing the same now that I’m trying to re-order my life.

  22. mothy67 says:

    Another thing I am aware that I am an asshole. If they sold asshole licenses I would pass on first test. I call my kid I got stuck with brat, monster, pup. I tell her real name alludes me because I just don’t like her. Some bitch went at me about my sexism. I think she may have been toting a matress. Piss off kid is aware that I love her. Not likely she will ever hear it from me.Can we have one small dose of reality. I am pretty sure I know she has a name in fact I use it all the time because I tell her we are going back to the Shayla store and I am going to exchange her for one I actually do not abhor. Some busy body feminist decides to get involved. Clueless woman. I tell her evernight I despise you. She knows what it means. She says good because I love you. Pup means the world to me but will never happen that I will be nice my wiring makes me blunt on a good day. Give me a break I slept on the floor next to her crib for fear of SIDS. I still have crazy fears all the time. I realize I am always going to be afraid of something when it comes to her. I have to accept that. She asked me when I would let her walk to school alone. I said college. I do not think my relationship with has much to do with me being gay. Yes it plays a role I had to view the world in a different way. . I still think of myself as an asshole not a gay asshole. I am just a stooge that feels strongly my playing a part in her life is not about how anyone else wants to define. Simple as a thrown away child needed someone to believe in her. Screw some random stranger that finds it sexist I refer to her as brat. I love the kid but those words do not come easy to me. I just cannot say that stuff I do let her know I believe in her all the time.

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    • Somebody says:

      Imagine the outrage if there was a white twitter.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Black Twitter are mean SOBs. I’m not sure how many blocks they were throwing at commenters on the #StandWithCJ thread, but glad I didn’t end up in the Twitter Gulag.

  27. Dora says:

    The WH should shut up. Who asked for his advice anyway?

    White House: Greece Should Be Allowed To Remain In Eurozone

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    • Lulu says:

      The media is desperately trying to hide that. Sanctuary city means the cops don’t hassle illegal alien criminals. Even in jail!

  30. Myiq2xu says:


    “I’m not sure what message that sent. We just organized the event to make sure people came here and had an outlet to express themselves. We didn’t plan every detail,” said Alekos Zambrano of Raices en Tampa. He organized the protest that brought out dozens.

    After burning the American flag, the group found a confederate flag and also burned that. Members of the Uhuru Solidarity Movement spoke to the crowd saying the American flag and the confederate flag are one in the same. Jesse Nevel called the American flag “a piece of s—.”

  31. Dora says:

    Bill Clinton’s Limo Service to Hermès Cost Taxpayers $8,852

    Multimillionaire wife campaigns on behalf of ‘everyday Americans’

  32. 49erDweet says:

    That Austerity thing is not good. Had a ’94 two door model once. Terrible mileage.

  33. helenk3 says:

    Did you ever think that is this country were drowning like Greece, the left would throw an anchor instead of a lifeline?

  34. mothy67 says:

    I walk by this womans almost everyday. She is always sweet to my brat. Happy and waves. I as thinking about how I get sucked into all the bad news but there is this older woman who spreads a little joy everyday.. i wanted to feel everthing is not shit. So I bought her flowers and a gift card. Sh was in tears blown away. So sad that the world has become so angry. This woman always smiles and treats my brat well. I love this woman she is always so pleasant. .AFew flowers and a gift card to say I like how good you make me feel. Forget the kid she makes me happy. I need to walk by her and get a smile. She was in tears. I did inform her that I was an asshole I think its in the Constitution that I am an asshole. . I just wanted to say thank you and I got tears. When did it get so bad that an elderly woman gets so grateful for a small gesture?

    • leslie says:

      It is not a small gesture. It is large and generous and comes from the heart. Most of us never get to hear that we have a positive effect on others. And when we do hear it, it touches us in the most extraordinary ways.
      Thank you for recognizing someone who, more than likely, is simply part of the landscape to most people.

    • votermom says:

      Mothy, you are so sweet! You made my day, just reading that.

  35. helenk3 says:

    stolen from rev amy’s place

  36. Myiq2xu says:

    I love a good rant:

    Now that America has been Fundamentally Transformed (TM), the leftist media likes it more, and now demands to know: Why do all these Republican sour-pusses hate America?

    It’s a funny question– funny, because it could have been asked of the Democrat Party since 1968, which has taken a very dark and critical view of America for almost 50 years now.

    The front-runner Democrat candidate once specified, when asked if she pledged allegiance to America: “I pledge allegiance to the America that can be,” which is like telling your wife you love the woman she could be, if she lost 30 pounds and got her breasts enhanced.

    The wife of the anti-American president proudly proclaimed that she had never been proud, at all, of America as an adult until the country drunkenly made her socialist husband the Democrat nominee.

    Barack Obama explained, before then, that he might struggle getting the nomination, because Americans were “bitter clingers” who were Life’s Losers but then clung to their silly superstitions about God, and their racism, and of course their Racist Guns.

    Eric Holder branded the country a “nation of cowards” on race.

    The media never found fault with these statements. They knew they could alienate voters, so they downplayed them.

    For fifty years, the left — the Democrats, the media, one in the same — have mounted an ugly attack on America, a sustained “critique” of all her non-leftist institutions.

    Now the right is taking a darker view of America, given its current Soft Enthusiasm for fascism.

    And now the media asks — no seriously, only now it asks — what is wrong with a party which can’t be Happy about what a great country America is?

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  38. Dora says:

    Does JFK’s Speech Apply Today?

    President Kennedy delivered this speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association at a dinner held at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City in April, 1961. In his speech he addressed his discontent with the press’ news coverage before, during, and after the Bay of Pigs incident, suggesting that there was a need for far greater public information.

    When he addressed this audience he had no idea how his words would fit our government some fifty+ years later. Except not in the manner he spoke of at the time. It’s blatantly apparent that the Democrats and the media have done a 180 degree turn compared to the free press Kennedy wanted to see.

  39. Myiq2xu says:

    New thread up!

  40. mothy67 says:

    I wonder what is coming down the pike.How bad will things get. I was at a state park on the 4th. PA has some beauties. I grew up on a river. Hate bridges but love rivers. You have to be respectful and aware. I could smell it was not right. Not one employee there. No lifeguards. Rains here like mad. Sorry you drought stricken folks but I ache for dry weather. Anyhow I could see and smell it was off. We decided to humiliate me at badmitten instead. State trooper came by and shut id down. We had been there over an hour other kids were playing away. People astound me. I took one look and knew it was unsafe. One small rush from the mountains can send a kid under. No pros watching. One trooper came by and said it was closed to swimming. He then just left there were no signs saying closed. People could show up later and think it was fine. I am in awe of the majestry of water. I can just watch a river flow. I think there are one or two near me. Maybe its 3 Rivers. That can’t be right. Next you will tell me there is a confluence and Bruce Willis is a water cop. For real though a public park lake in the mountains with no lifeguards. I had wanted to rent a boat. I find that area sublime. Near where that plane went down and Frank Llyod Wrights Falling Water. I prefer The Fountainhead to Atlas Shrugged but I am not captivated by Wright. I get he was daring at a time but I like staid well built homes. A southern wrap around porch is sexy to me. I have been to Falling Water many times. It smells is dank and loud. I think the Guggenheim looks like an ugly parking garage. You can keep Warhol and Rothko as well. Tradition should not be entirely dismissed. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Things have persisted over time because they work. I get so much flack because I say Bruce Jenner. Ain’t never gonna happen that I agree to his choice. It was his choice do what ever you want. I hope I am never rude to anyone but my brat. There is a post op person that lives near me. I try to meet all people with dignity. I think there is a lot of shame pain and guilt because some people never got any respect. This person I know who changed genders is polite but gets off work has a few cocktails stares away from everyone. Color this f a g whatever this weeks term is supposedcto supress me from thinking for myself. Call me an unfounded name and ya think I am gonna hide. Good luck on that. I live to argue. Calling me names has zero effect. I do not see why we all have to live by dumb rules spewed by Harvard. Drives me nuts where does money go? Water seems like the most basic starting point. Why 30 years on does this fatman tell me I am awful poor Jose needs drinking water. Take a look at how much money goes to poor nations and then try to see what has been done. It is a scam plain and simple. 1984 we had to suffer throgh We Are The World. Such an awful song Fucking millionaire guy tried to re do it with Haiti. All fraud. . Can we just give pause and ask why America worked. She did a lot of good. Pretend intellectuals get well paid to hate on us. Why I think things can get better but I do not believe in progressives. They seem to think all things all thought started with them

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