Illegals and Racism and Trump

Buncha racist Trump supporters

I got yelled at for defending Donald Trump’s remarks on illegals during his presidential announcement. The argument seemed to be that Trump had said most illegals are rapists and murderers, so by defending that I am saying that most Mexicans are criminals. Here’s what Trump said:

It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably — probably — from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.

I’ll skip over the argument’s blow by blow to the point I want to make. A lot of people, even on the right, say that Trump was being rude, crude, insulting, and downright racist. And people who agree with him are being racist. Here’s my answer:

I legally immigrated to the US because I thought it was the country that loved freedom and respected the law. 

Here’s one thing I will say to those who think I am racist for judging illegals. You seem to think illegals represent all of their “race.” 
You seem to think, moreover, that they cannot be held to the same standards of law-abiding that you and I can. 
Well, I see them as humans who have just as much free will and conscience as I do. I see them as my equals. I see them as my equals who are being allowed to break laws, who are being REWARDED for breaking laws, while I am being punished for noticing it.
You seem to think you are better than them, and that you are better than me.
I think you are equal to them. I think you are equal to me. Before God, and once upon a time, before the law, we are all equal. So ask yourself, who of us, if any, is being racist?

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147 Responses to Illegals and Racism and Trump

  1. votermom says:

    Did it work? (Published from kindle)

  2. DandyTIger says:

    Basically Trump said all the illegals coming across the border are not angels. Duh. Many are rapists. E.g., a loosely thrown around statistic is that 80% of women coming across the boarder are raped in the process. Who knows. Many are involved in the drug trade, and probably worse. Of course many might be mostly fine. But one thing we do know, 100% of them are criminals in that they’re illegally entering the country, and likely using illegal IDs. How can pointing out the obvious be bigoted or rude? Here’s how, the ideology of open borders, of patronizing and “helping” the poor downtrodden, lesser, “immigrants”, etc. relies on the idea that they’re all angels, all here to make us better. What Trump said is a direct threat to the open border ideology held by both political parties.

    • leslie says:

      What I can’t wrap my little brain around is that the people who are bashing Trump and his claims are the same people who support the “statistic” that 1 of 5 women are raped on college campuses. Why is it so easy to believe that number? Why is it so difficult to believe that many illegal immigrants (those who enter the US without following the rules) are criminals or victims of crimes whilst on their way to the north?

    • Lulu says:

      Our sheriffs department captain, a former Houston homicide detective, told me the illegals picked up for crimes are often criminals in Mexico also. Or have behavioral issues (child abuse, drug abuse, thieves, won’t work, crazy) and tell the deputies that they were told by law enforcement in Mexico to leave for the north, get out of town dude. The illegals think there is some agreement or something and they can just leave the jail because the federales told them to go to the US. Mexico IS dumping their social problems on the USr rather than spending their own money on them. It may not be a stated policy but it is a POLICY. They also told women with profoundly handicapped children to get out and get free medical care in the US last year. Two doctors here have told me that patients told them that and when they didn’t get free treatment were angry at THEM. Something is going on in Mexico and Trump hit a nerve and pissed them off.

  3. helenk3 says:

    Trump is not my favorite person and I would not vote for him. He is doing a great job of getting people to talk about a major problem affecting this country. In the name of political correctness, we have become afraid to speak out about problems. He is making it possible and showing the spineless candidate who are not talking about it.
    I keep thinking about Sargent Tamareesi and what happened to him when he inadvertently crossed the Mexican border. Now is this country we give criminals sanctuary and welfare benefits and are considered wrong it we talk about it as a problem.

    • helenk3 says:

      also bringing attention to the twits that declared American cities a sanctuary place for criminals at the expense of American lives. Right now they are scrambling like cockroaches when a light is shined on them.
      How many American citizens have to die at the hands of these people before we say enough is enough? How many jobs lost by Americans to them (Disneyworld) before we say enough is enough?

      • Lulu says:

        Maybe this is the tipping point Helen. After the chaos of last summer it can’t come too soon.

      • lizzy says:

        Personally I favor a boycott of multinational companies like Disney that abuse American workers. Unfortunately we probably couldn’t buy anything because all “Stuff” is foreign made. Wholesale disregard of our immigration laws is catastrophic. We can’t absorb so many people. Those not willing to assimilate should be told to go elsewhere.

    • piper says:

      Not until these ‘illegals” commit crimes in the gated communities of the elites and academics. Many years ago my mother wanted to move to suburbia for safety reasons as our large metropolis was becoming a bit dangerous with increased robberies/burglaries rapes and drug usage/selling in the schools. My father’s response was they meaning criminals have cars and can commit crimes anywhere. Eventually they did moved to suburbia where my sibling attend a very nice high school which had a much higher incidence of drug usage as the students had more money to spend on various chemicals.

      • Lulu says:

        I think the murder on the Embacradaro meets some of the elite community standards. The murder victim supposedly lived a couple of blocks away. Beautiful, young, great job, bright future even for by the elites standards was killed by a messed up (he claims he found sleeping pills in the garbage and a gun too!) illegal alien who should have been in a holding cell for deportation. It may have finally stuck home they are endangered too because of their own idiot policies. And the drug use in the suburban high school is brought to you by drug cartels who have excellent marketing and supply chains. They are everywhere because we have a porous border that is understaffed on purpose. Suburban children are not a priority nor are inner city children by elites.

        • leslie says:

          They won’t say a thing. They are too frightened by thoughts of being called “r@cist” or “traitor” or “ignorant” worse by their peers. Even when it is one of their own.
          WAIT!!! they are just now talking about it on – wait for it – MSNBHO. Now Bloomberg (or maybe Cuomo) is saying he is willing to debate Donald Trump r/t Immigration “any time- anyplace”.

          • lizzy says:

            Just wait for Billie dB lack wit metropolitan mayor to cancel more contracts with Trump. Cuomo can’t race bait before the mayor.

    • dm says:

      I honestly believe that is exactly why he is in the race. His goal isn’t to win…it’s to stir things up because he can talk about anything he wants without any “real” political backlash. He could care less what the political ruling parties think – he knows the people have concerns about topics like these that no politician, wanna be or otherwise, has the balls to bring up.

      I love Trump, because he is arrogant, brash and in your face. Obviously, he’s resonating with enough voters to be polling well. The Dems and Repubs may want to ignore him, but he will continue to be a thorn in all their sides…I love it!

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Trump’s not backing down either. WE knew what he meant despite his colorful and unPC way of addressing the problem. He didn’t build a global empire by being Mr.Nicey-Nice. He’s pushing back at his critics as fast as they sling mud at him and it’s a joy to behold ! Even Fox (or the Jeb /GOPE wing of the politicos) are bringing quivers full of arrows. I’m starting to get all giddy thinking about a Trump/Fiorina ticket now, they can’t be bought …. or sell us down the river like the Messiah/Uncle Joe ticket did.

  5. 49erDweet says:

    There’s a meme running around claiming since 1980 California has built 22 new state prisons but only 1 new state university. Which is false, but the interesting thing to me is the main reason for so many new prisons is the reason for Sanctuary Cities. Prob thinking and lawsuits against the state for the “overcrowding” of prisons.

  6. votermom says:

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Oh, the trolls are strong on this one. I thought myiq might have fun with it since it starts out with a silly girl with big boobies😉

    • Lulu says:

      I like how the SF mayor has turned on the SF sheriff. The mayor said sanctuary was for people fleeing revolution not drug dealers and murderers. LOL. Duh! Cause and effect is hard.

      • piper says:

        Everyone scrambling to point the finger at someone other than themselves. Well who wrote and implemented these sanctuary city rules/laws.

        • Lulu says:

          The SF sheriff was on the board of supervisors when all of the sanctuary stuff was being enacted. The lawyer/spokesperson for the sheriff department is one of his old cronies. Her basic schtick was if ICE would just do what we tell them, get a federal court order, on every single illegal alien that is booked into jail everything would be great. Since when does a sheriff department get to order a federal agency around in federal law? They make their own federal law in SF and get people killed.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Hmmm, Hillary’s biggest backer owns Univision ? More pushback…..yesterday….

    I have lost a lot during this Presidential run defending the people of the United States. I have always heard that it is very hard for a successful person to run for President. Macy’s, NBC, Serta and NASCAR have all taken the weak and very sad position of being politically correct even though they are wrong in terms of what is good for our country. Univision, because 70% of their business comes from Mexico, in my opinion, is being dictated to by the Mexican Government. The last thing Mexico wants is Donald Trump as President in that I will make great trade deals for the United States and will have an impenetrable border–only legally approved people will come through easily.

    Interestingly, Univision has just announced they are attempting to go public despite very poor and even negative earnings, which is not a good situation for a successful IPO or high stock price—not to mention that I am currently suing them for breach of contract. Remember, Univision is the one who began this charade in the first place, and they are owned by one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest backers. After the speech was made, there were numerous compliments and indeed, many rave “reviews”—there was very little criticism. It wasn’t until a week after my announcement that people started to totally distort these very easy to understand words. If there was something stated incorrectly, it would have been brought up immediately and with great enthusiasm.

    Entire comments here:

  9. Lulu says:

    Bernie thinks the unthinkable: Guns in Vermont different that guns in Chicago or LA. Yeah. He went there. The non-PC is breaking out all over the place.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Because Vermont guns are politer, and don’t yell?

      • piper says:

        Remember this line spoken by Sancho Panza (Man of LaMancha)
        “Whether the rock hits the pitcher or the pitcher hits the rock, it’s generally bad for the pitcher?”

      • Lulu says:

        They are used for hunting. Which is good for Vermonters but not for red neck southerners or other various non-syrup farmers. Or something. I think he was saying gang bangers shouldn’t have guns but non-gang bangers can. So how do you identify a gang banger Bernie? What about them makes them identifiable? Where they live? Their lifestyle? Gun of choice? Other non-PC stuff maybe? But he is the socialist so he can venture off into these topics.

        • 49erDweet says:

          I like interfacing with ardent socialist progs from time time. They have interesting viewpoints and observations I sometimes miss or would ignore. But their ‘solutions’ are so illogical and unworkable, yet they seem to have no actual clue as to how humans react. Smart and stupid. LOL.

      • foxyladi14 says:


    • leslie says:

      Bernie still needs the VT voters in the end.

      • leslie says:

        Or as John Edwards used to say, “At the end of the day . . . “, Bernie needs those VT voters. And they will stay with Bernie. I think they’re calling themselves the “Bern Unit”.

        I agree with Lulu’s (implied) questions about the differences between the Vermont hunters and the “red neck southerners or other various non-syrup farmers”. Ayup.

    • piper says:

      Chicago has strict gun control laws on the books but ironically the criminal element either hasn’t read the laws (perhaps due to poor schooling) or are following obama’s disdain for certain disagreeable laws.

      • Lulu says:

        It seems that applies to all kind of stuff. Only non-criminals follow laws. Eventually everyone stops doing it then the government is fucked. They can’t catch everyone. Reminds me of Greece and their tax laws. No one, NO ONE, obeyed them.

  10. swanspirit says:

    Absolutely great post! Thanks so much VM!
    The Donald is scaring the pants off everyone (running for office) by not dancing around the topic. He isn’t worried about defending the delicate sensibilities of the Mexican government, who benefits from dumping their criminals on us, while their drug cartels control our southern borders.He is the only candidate so far, speaking directly to the people who are suffering because Obama wants open borders. The rest of the candidates are still jockeying for votes, because The Obama administration has managed the hat trick of equating the illegals and criminals crossing the border , with the large voting Hispanic population already here legally. So of course anyone even mentioning illegals, is a racist. Heck we can’t even call them illegal, we have to call them undocumented ; which implies they will eventually be documented and legal and just fine. That language change is part of the hat trick.
    The Donald is just pulling back the curtain on the trick, and exposing the tricksters. Of course they don’t like it.

    Obama has brought us the pick and choose the laws you wish to enforce era. They enforce laws which force bakers to bake cakes , but we have sanctuary for criminals that enter the country illegally ,kill, rape, rob and sell drugs. But don’t say that out loud, because then you are a racist.

    • leslie says:

      Last year I co-supervised a wonderful young idealistic intern who worked for an agency that assisted the “undocumented” immigrants in Chicago. Anytime I said “illegal” she jumped to correct my language with PC “undocumented”. One day I asked her why they were undocumented. And if they entered this country undocumented why they weren’t illegal immigrants. She could not answer with anything except to say, “no one is illegal”. (I think she equated illegal with bastard.) She never could reshape that thought (which is, I suppose, better given who she worked for). I think – hope, given her intelligence, that in the next life – or middle age – she will be able to finally understand that there is a reason for rules and procedures.

  11. driguana says:

    Nice, mom!!! Here’s the thing that really galls me. If you disagree with the lefty progs, you get yelled at and called down and called names. But the fact of the matter, truth be told, there is no dialogue or meaningful public debate happening in this country about race relations or our immigration problems!!! Newscasters yell at each other and deride them for not agreeing with their point of view but they don’t open the subjects to a debateful purpose or intention.

    • leslie says:

      Agreed. I finally stopped watching much in the way of “news” programs. (Hannity is the absolute worst.) The yelling and screaming was intolerable. There is no debate. It’s
      my way or the highway” thinking/bloviating.

    • 49erDweet says:

      To debate is to be Racist. The extremely smart people say so! Because only they are caring and…………

  12. piper says:

    2016 GOP Presidential Candidates – What Could Go Possibly Wrong with This Many Candidates

    1. Jeb Bush Former Florida Governor
    2. Ben Carson Neurosurgeon and Author
    3. Chris Christie New Jersey Governor
    4. Ted Cruz Texas Senator
    5. Mark Everson Former IRS Commissioner
    6. Carly Fiorina Former CEO
    7. Jim Gilmore Former Virginia Governor
    8. Lindsey Graham South Carolina Senator
    9. Mike Huckabee Former Arkansas Governor
    10. Bobby Jindal Louisiana Governor
    11. John Kasich Ohio Governor
    12. Peter King New York Congressman
    13. George Pataki Former New York Governor
    14. Rand Paul Kentucky Senator
    15. Rick Perry Former Texas Governor
    16. Marco Rubio Florida Senator
    17. Rick Santorum Former Pennsylvania Senator
    18. Donald Trump Businessman
    19. Scott Walker Wisconsin Governor

    • votermom says:

      Well, those attacling Trump have been crossed off my list. (Sorry Rick)

    • helenk3 says:

      and which one got the public’s attention on illegal immigrants and now created a public discussion about it?
      So far Ted Cruz is the only one agreeing with The Donald and willing to talk about the problem

      • votermom says:

        Apparently this morning Ted Cruz told Laura Ingram we need more H1-B visas!
        You’re breaking my heart, Ted!

    • Constance says:

      I think the fact that the Republicans have a lot of candidates shows a healthy party open for discussion. I like that the candidates are all ages and different backgrounds. I really wonder what is wrong with Democrats in that they don’t have any youthful (under 60) candidates.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Good luck with that GOPE !

    • 49erDweet says:

      It’s Oregon. This is the summer smokey season from wildfires in the forests. The whole populace has been inhaling too many THC’s.

    • lizzy says:

      We could probably save a lot of China’s money of we drastically cut benefits to illegals.

  13. angienc says:

    No other county in the world allows what the US is allowing re: our border situation. And really why should the fact that Central and South Americans are geographically close enough to walk across our border make them special? I’m sure there are plenty of people in Bangladesh who would love to come to the US and would work hard once here but they can’t just hide in the back of a truck to do it. Really, those advocating for “amnesty” believe they illegals from Central and South America are MORE DESERVING than all others, including US citizens, of being here. They are the “racists.” Hell, their group is called La Raza (“the race”) and they will not be satisfied until they turn the US into the same corrupt shithole as the countries they are fleeing.

    • 49erDweet says:

      I love it. To a bureaucrat every tragedy is an opportunity to trot out a “new and improved” program whose ultimate goal is to increase the number of citizens required by law to vote for them at the next election or three.

    • DeniseVB says:

      See Helen, Trump is cutting right through the b.s. and to do that, you can’t be PC🙂

      • helenk3 says:

        PC is one of the worst things that ever happened to this country. It stifled free speech.
        When I moved from PA to CAL, it was a standard joke about how unPC I am.

  14. helenk3 says:

    off topic

    what is your opinion on this.?
    considering the hacking that is already going on in government computers

    • DandyTIger says:

      Agree, they’re trying to cripple or destroy encryption capabilities of any non government entity. In the US you already have to provide back door capabilities. But some are finding work arounds where the design doesn’t allow them access to the real data, so back door is meaningless. Apparently this approach is pissing off the US government.

  15. DeniseVB says:

    “splain this Mexico……

  16. helenk3 says:

    Feds should not turn over illegals to sanctuary cities

  17. Dora says:

    Since he hasn’t been caught, we don’t know if this shooter was an illegal, but it wouldn’t surprise me. It seems to be open season.

    LA WOMAN EXECUTED by Shotgun Blast to Back of the Head By Black Man on Hollywood Sidewalk

  18. DeniseVB says:

    So our crack Obama-Kerry Iran negotiating team is floundering again ? Am I the only one who thinks Iran is batting Kerry around like a cat and mouse game? Nevermind, today’s media squirrels…..Cosby !! Jared the Subway guy!!!

  19. votermom says:

    Going on a twitter rant right now.

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Sorry, this copy/paste will be long, but it’s from the Nutroots Nation email (a special brand of snowflakes) and here’s their MAJOR goal of next week’s gathering in Phoenix…………

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a long history of abusing power and terrorizing immigrant families in Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and the metro area. A Department of Justice report affirmed that Arpaio’s office is the worst purveyor of racial profiling investigators have ever seen: from the creation of Tent City, the most inhumane jail in the country, to his relentless persecution of the migrant community.

    But even though he has been denounced by the people and sanctioned by the courts, the Obama administration continues to deport his victims. Just last week, Arpaio claimed to have sent 5,000 people to ICE for deportation in the last year and a half.

    It’s time for Arpaio to resign and take his legacy of inhumane treatment and racial profiling with him. That’s why we’re partnering with Puente Arizona on a conference-wide direct action on Friday during Netroots Nation.

    Click here to RSVP and spread the word on Facebook.

    Join us July 17 at noon to rally at the 4th Avenue Jail for an #ArpaioFreeAZ. Immediately after the morning keynote, we’ll march a few blocks to the jail to demand that ICE immediately remove their deportation agents from Arpaio’s jails.

    Here’s what we are fighting for alongside our local partners:

    Arpaio’s immediate resignation: Arpaio needs to go and take the racist, abusive policies and practices he institutionalized with him.

    An end to Police-ICE collaboration: As the first sheriff to have his officers allowed to act as ICE agents by the federal government, Arpaio paved the way for SB1070. Now police departments across the state can racially profile with impunity. We demand ICE agents immediately leave the 4th Avenue Jail and that ICE stop deporting those swept up in the criminal justice system through the corrupt, abusive Maricopa County Sheriff’s Department.

    Human rights in Maricopa County Jails: We demand the immediate closing of Tent City, independent investigation into all deaths in custody, and adequate healthcare and mental health care for inmates. Arpaio has worked to strip the dignity of people in his custody through chain gangs, inadequate meals, striped uniforms and pink underwear. Stopping the dehumanization of inmates in county jails starts with ending these practices of intimidation and humiliation.

    End discriminatory and abusive enforcement: Arpaio’s posse must be disbanded, and all racial profiling and abuse by officers must be investigated and sanctioned by an independent commission.

    Justice for Arpaio’s victims: Justice in Maricopa County is not just the absence of Arpaio. The Sheriff and his cronies have destroyed countless lives over his nearly 25-year reign of terror. It’s time for us to turn the tables on Arpaio and fight to repair the damage he’s done.

    Restoring justice in Maricopa County starts with bringing Sheriff Arpaio to justice. The federal government has the power to stop working with Arpaio immediately.

    Join us Friday, July 17 to make a bold statement that we don’t support Arpaio’s policies, actions, or the systems that support them.

    Thanks for standing with our allies in Arizona.

    Raven Brooks
    Netroots Nation

  21. helenk3 says:

    WOW how about this, a couple of Russian bomber came to see the fireworks on July 4th off the California coast

    • DeniseVB says:

      I don’t watch O’Reilly either, it was divine intervention that I didn’t reach for the remote when he started his Talking Points. Riveting.

      • mothy67 says:

        I didn’t like him for years and I think he can be an ass but lately he seems to be waving the flag. I think Bret is the best. Confession I had two open heart surguries in 1970 Bret had to go through it with his son

  22. helenk3 says:

    isis school in dearborn michigan. wonder if backtrack will send federal funding

  23. DeniseVB says:

    This caught my eye at RD’s, then I ended up following Patriot Pam over at Twitter. Thanks RD, I think she’s terrific !

  24. mothy67 says:

    I am getting a huge charge out of Donald. I have little if any patience with the social justice word warriors. I see people get so upset about the dumbest shit and have so little room for anyone . elses thoughts. I never talk down down to my brat. I tell her all her emotions are valid Feel what you feel acknowledge it. How you act on it is what matters. People get so messed from shame and denial. . We talk about blind rage and righteous indignation. What took place in SC has to be discussed with kids. They will pick some of it up. Am I going to allow Katie Cowlick to define that tragedy to a child. The media takes small slices of what takes place and then builds a story tailor made to sell thier agenda. Progressives are always defining the world with a limited palette. When I talked to the wretched creature about the shit Storm I had to talk to her about the genesis of hate and what fuels people. I am not letting Anderson Cooper fill her with his bile. I wish i could avoid it altogether but this bad stuff becomes so ubiquitous. You have to talk to them. I think all crimes that hurt someone else are hate crimes. Having grown up in a steel town as the gayest person Ever born I learned to see the look in some boys eyes that meant hate. I learned to run. Might be easy if I chose to go Vox and say these kids were evil. No they were kids evolving and I was a threat. Was not me they hated but something inside themselves. I do not mean to imply they were repressed gays and lashed out at me due to that. Psychology tries to hard to define and prove things. I think the boys that found urinating on my face had so much inner turmoil bad home lives when you are an unhappy person so sad inside it is easy to find someone to dump it on and blame. I never could see real racism. Sure it exists but if I get off work and take a cab because waiting for a bus means dealing with a pack of kids roaming around. I am hailing I cab. Somehow that makes me racist. I was a bartender for 17 thousand years okay 20 but I can spot trouble. I allowed the ladies of the evening to sit inside on rainy or cold days. Some strange reason prostitutes drink cognac. Never tip. I would never let in the pimp. He would try and even tried to sue me once. I said bring it.
    I think Trump is being brutally honest and media does not know how to distort him. They would take one line from a two hour edited interview and destroy Palin. They cannot control according to their agenda. He says what he wants but he also says what everyone is craving. The MSM tries to pretend the border issues do not matter and if you read comments they always go after FOX you are a racist if you do not provide a housewarming gift to a seven time convicted rapist.

    • votermom says:

      Progressives are always defining the world with a limited palette.


      • mothy67 says:

        But why I am 48 I have a lot of friends that were mad ambitious. They have newborns in the 40s then cannot deal. One of the people I love most sent herckid off to sleepover camp. He wets the bed and will not poop. The biggest signs possible. Ignore throw more money at a private school and think it will go away. My disaster has the worst gay great uncle tea party Irish Catholic ever. If life was fair she would have real parents and if by chance she had to be raised by a great gay uncle I shoulf be singing Madonna and marrying my gardener cause love rules. Poor brat I am a Zep Head. Fool in the Rain is my most favoritist song ever. There’s a light in your eyes that keeps shining like a star that cannot wait . I hate to think I’ve been blindd why can’t I see you tonight.
        I melt when I hear that. Poor kid gets a great gay uncle that loves the poetry of 70 s rockers . Bowie, Queen, Ozzie, Zep

  25. mothy67 says:

    PS my sciatica is better today. I spent many hours in a car on the 4th I think it makes it worse. . I can see how suicide would be an option.

    • leslie says:

      Yes. Sitting for long stretches of time is very bad. Make certain you don’t do that. Stop the car; get out; move around so that you don’t exacerbate the distress.

    • DeniseVB says:

      My husband got great relief from going to a chiropractor. He was a skeptic at first, then wondered why he waited so long.

  26. 49erDweet says:

    One more comment and we’ll have a hundred whilst playing unsupervised like this. Freedom!!!!

  27. foxyladi14 says:

    Let me add my compliment VM.
    Thank you for this great post. 🙂

  28. leslie says:

    So, yesterday I joined the “gym” for seniors in my little town. I’m going over there now to try out the treadmill and sign up for the orientation so that I don’t break anything whilst trying to get young again.😉
    Then it’s off to babysit the grand babies! I get to see my own Lady Lily today. 🙂

  29. helenk3 says:

    I am now on the warpath and on a mission.
    got a phone call from a man claiming to be a US custom officer telling me I have a pkg from Canada with a large prize from National Publisher Clearing House. All I have to do is go to the post office and declare and pay duty tax of .05%. Send a check or money order to the Canadian Embassy in Vinton Va. I looked up the address and it is a private house. I called the Vinton Va Police and told them what happened. There is no Canadian Embassy in Vinton Va. They told me I had to make a report to the Orlando police and they would then send the report to the Vinton police. I am waiting for a return call from the Orlando police.
    I get real angry when people think I am stupid and they can con me.
    think of how much money every day these people are making. the guy sounded really authentic.
    Is it a crime to impersonate a custom officer?

  30. Myiq2xu says:

    lol wut?

  31. DeniseVB says:

    I don’t usually use Conservative Treehouse as a source, but when I do it’s because there’s an excellent retort to the WaPo article smashing Trump on using illegals to build his new hotel in DC…

    This is not going to bode well for DC, which is a Sanctuary City, where subcontractors are required to hire some illegals. The author’s not a fan of Trump but proves him right. 🙂

    • Dora says:

      Good article. I like to glance through Conservative Treehouse once in a while. I find some good information there. Then again, I suppose I’m not the one to recommend a news site. I have been wrong before. 🙂

      • DeniseVB says:

        We all have ! Conservative Treehouse has it’s roots from Hillbuzz which had roots with the Hillary supporters of ’08 who would not support Obama and become vile progs. Sundance does a good job with his research, though s/he’s been caught a few times, how do you say, embellishing and borrowing ?

        • Dora says:

          I didn’t know that. I used to read Hillbuzz. I enjoyed that site, especially Kevin’s writings. I think that’s his name. It’s been a while.

        • mothy67 says:

          What happened to Kevn at Hillbuzz? I think many of us were shoved to the right in 2008. I think I always conservative I didn’t spend a lot of time thinking about it. 2008 was not a wake up call it was a kick to the head and gut. I see things so differently now. I was so passive I never really even thought about local politics. They just ordered an election with the results they wanted. I am highly suspect of 2012 results. Did you know the DNC gives more weight to democratic strongholds during the primaries. Hillary still won PA even with that uphill battle. I went to Temple but some times cities become suck holes. Projects and ghettos are a democratic invention. The history that progs do not agree with they just discount. In The Fountainhead Howard Roarke blows up a project devolopment. Low income housing does not work. I am not saying don’t help the poor we all need a hand up. Urban planners have created a mess. Read if you are bored about Zora Neale Hurston and what she went through. She was hated by the Harlem Renaissance powers. . She disagreed about urban housing. The democrats think throwing poor people into a high rise can work. It doesn’t work poverty begets poverty. Where I live a low income area has so many problems. Drugs crime save the racist attacks they are almost all white. Who thinks lumping uneducated poor people with no ambition together is a good idea. The cause du jour is moving color into well to do towns. It is such a dumb idea. My hood did the section 8 because they took fed money to build. The standarized tests have fallen. The school has descended. It is not about poverty. Ben Carlsen screams that. I can remember the carpenter ants eating the walls as a kid. Parents are so important. Children need to know they are cared for no government program can replace that. How many thousands of years has the traditional family survived? There is a reason why things last. I strongly believe in traditional marriage. I wish my puke could have had it. First song I ever bought her that her father stole was by one of the Klowns wives. Faith Hill The way you love me. All people dealing with kids get crazed at times. Marc Cherry that created Desperate Housewives said he did it because he was watching the news and saw the story about a woman who drowned her kids we all remember I do not use her name because I don’t think she deserves to be named. Anyhow Marc Cherry’s mom said everyday with a kid pushes the limits of sanity. Think Faith Hill is an antidote. Your the million reason why there’s love reflected in my eyes. It’s not right it’s not fair what you are missing over there. Breaks my heart everytime I hear it but I have to live it. I had open heart in 1970 back then they made a big deal about being strong. So wrong you just bury all feelings. It is not the pain its the stuff that comes with it. Ever sit around the dining room table with the family and say I wonder what that freak on THe Crawdad Hole is sexy. Drew van Acker. I am not even attracted to him I think he is so stunnig I want to protect him. I really think after me he is the most handsome man ever. I make fun of my looks because many years ago I was in bed with Liz Taylor watching General Hospital and she decided I looked like Monty. I said the first time we met you said that. She called me an ass. Everyperson I ever speak to on a personal level call me an ass or an asshole. My sis came out of brain surgery and I asked if I could see the hole in her head. She said you are an ass. I was supposed to hold her hand. Yeah that will never happen

          • DeniseVB says:

            The sudden disappearance of Kevin Dujan is the greatest internet mystery of all time, even before Al Gore invented it😀

          • westcoaster says:

            Kevin wrote a few new posts in the past few days. I’m just thankful he pops up every once in awhile (the last time he wrote was on January 1st)

  32. helenk3 says:

    don’t you wish the government departments that we pay for would take as much time and pay attention to the stopping the enemies of the country as they do to backtrack’s political opponents

  33. lyn says:

    Excellent post, votermom!

  34. Myiq2xu says:

    New thread up!

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