Caturday Open Thread


“Come at me, bro!”

Here’s a couple things for you to read:

When Prosecutors Believe the Unbelievable

Three years ago, one of the strangest criminal cases in recent memory began in Charlottesville, Virginia, where I live, when a young woman sent a series of text messages telling her boyfriend that a man had abducted her, followed by a series of texts, allegedly from her captor, taunting her boyfriend with threats of sexual violence. Her story was strange, and the case was fraught with complications from the get-go, but the accused ended up in prison long after the doubts outweighed the evidence.

I love a good rant:

Hey Here’s a Crazy Idea, Let’s Try Actual Honest Discussion and See What Happens

I objected to the Huffington Post’s Decidery Decision to put Trump on in the Entertainment section for the same reason I object to the media’s embargo of the Planned Parenthood story:

It is an attempt to win an argument without having an argument, an attempt to win what should be a contest of competing ideas by use of processes that have nothing to do with the intellect.

Human beings are pack mammals. There are various ways to get a human being to claim agreement with your way of thinking. Excluding the more physical ways, such as simply beating that human being with the thigh-bone of an auroch until he rolls into the fetal position of surrender, here are the two main socio-intellectual ways to convince someone of something:

1. You can have an honest discussion with him, conducted on an intellectual, not emotional, not social, plane, in which you both offer your ideas and your best possible arguments for them. While such discussions rarely change minds, when they do change minds, they change them honestly and purely, by reason, by force of logic, by persuasiveness.

2. You can run a series of social-hierarchy, social-shaming political games against the person you wish to convince; you can ostracize him, setting him away from the group, alone and afraid, to be ritually mocked by the group until his humiliation and desire to end the torment of social pain compels him to confess a (coerced) agreement with you.

I’m not going to lie to anyone; #2 is more frequently effective than #1, if all you care about is pure outcome, and furthermore, #2 is very easy compared to #1, as #2 only requires that you have some allies you can convince to run the social shaming game on a target — the butt, the scapegoat– and it’s easy to convince people to do that, because people like being cruel.

#2 is by far the most common form of political tactic, and it is indeed political — just like any political campaign, it consists of designating a Hero (or Hero Position) and a Villain (anyone holding the Villain Position), and getting the most people to hoot and bray and jeer and spit at the other side.

You know when you’ve won when you get the most people on your side, or at least the most people willing to spit the most, and cow the other side into social submission.

There is a bunch more and you should read it.

When freeways go bad:

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17 Responses to Caturday Open Thread

  1. Dora says:

    The more I read about the Iran deal, the worse it sounds. 😦

    BREAKING: Obama Released TOP IRANIAN SCIENTIST as Part of Nuke Deal; Left Americans to Rot in Hell

  2. Dora says:

    Judge Makes Feds Go Door-To-Door Demanding Illegal Aliens Turn Over Amnesty Permits Obama Regime Illegally Gave Them

    Got to give props to Judge Hanen go upholding the law.

    • Lulu says:

      Entering the US without permission is a crime. Now they wonder why criminals won’t give the paperwork back? Duh! And saying they are ‘afraid” is baloney. They now realize they identified themselves for the next prezzie to deport them since a royal edict is not holding up in court. Trusting Obama is always a bad bet.

  3. Dora says:

    The 70th Anniversary of the First Atomic Bomb: The Trinity Nuclear Test July 16 1945

    How Quickly We Forget: When you give the bomb to Iran this is what you’re messing with….

  4. DeniseVB says:

    The Ace rant was fabulous ! So many points of light in that thing, can’t possibly pick my favorite one.

  5. mothy67 says:

    Still hope. I went to championship girls softball game. It was scheduled for 830. They changed it and made it 1130. No notice. An hour drive. I was pissed but the girls went ape shit. They are playing their hearts out and to not even get a call. I was mad but the girls were insane. 9 year old girl screaming how hard is it to text. Little pitches hold their own.

    • mothy67 says:

      So annoying I have to go back. Some reason girls softball is huge where I live. My neighbors kids got full scholarships. It can be ugly.

    • 49erDweet says:

      To be fair, each team is supposed to have its own “phone tree” communication chain in place. IF the league/event notified the team contact person, the fault lies somewhere within.

    • AFVet says:

      I think that Girls fast pitch softball was re-instated in this years Olympic Games.
      College girls that can really play ball.
      I love to watch them play.
      And BTW, they do not throw like Barry the puss.

  6. Dora says:

    Army Boss: Letting Soldiers Defend Themselves from Terrorists “Causes More Problems Than it Solves”

  7. DeniseVB says:

    With all the ca-ca going on here and in the world, Dear Leader enjoys Manhattan ! He’s such a good Dad, here’s proof he’s COOL too……:P

    • piper says:

      Blech and double blech. He needed a photo op and adulation after his horrible week learning from the news about the Iranian deal and another work place incidence. Really – just a dad bonding with his daughters and their friends.

      No matter what anyone says, the murder of the 4 marines and 1 sailor was an act of terrorism and the terrorist should be as reviled as the shooter in S.C. So tired of the double standards of reporting, naming and rampaging brought to us by the POS and so-called new organization who always travel with armed security and live in protected communities.

  8. piper says:

    The best to you as you move into your new home. Stay cool.

  9. Oh crap, sorry Myiq. I didn’t mean to step on your post. I scheduled mine last night before heading to bed. Figured you’d probably sleep in or something.

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