#WTF Saturday Open Thread

Posted by my mother-in-law on FB last night. #WTF

Posted by my mother-in-law on FB last night. #WTF

Vile Progs® are getting might uppity these days. In other news, they have some First World Problems©. Also, it’s NutRoots℗ time again. The hashtag to watch is #NN15.


But hey, there’s always this:

Enjoy! This is an open thread.

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133 Responses to #WTF Saturday Open Thread

  1. Ivory Bill Woodpecker says:

    I thought I was leftist.

    Paul Craig Roberts was a former assistant secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan Administration.

    Lately, he makes me sound like his old boss.


    In PCR’s defense, though–I remember a classic Trek episode in which Spock said: “I do not approve; I understand.”

    I am hoping PCR is saying he understands violent revolutionaries, not that he approves of them. 😮

    • How is saying no to another loan looting? That’s what I want to know. That frame itself just smacks of entitlement on steroids.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        Don’t hold your breath waiting for a cogent answer. He never sticks around to debate. He’ll just run back to Riverdaughter’s and call us names some more.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Marxism is always a few more executions away from utopia.

      • Ivory Bill Woodpecker says:

        Imperial plutocracy is a disease, for which Marxism and fundamentalist religion are toxic quack remedies, two different brands of snake oil.

        • swanspirit says:

          Ivory Bill (ed) Woodpeckers are for all intents and purposes probably extinct. Probably a confused Pileated. Or a Pileated that identifies as an Ivory. /S

        • Myiq2xu says:

          You are so full of shit. Did you get that off a bumper sticker somewhere?

          Do you think it makes you look smart and superior when you say crap like that?

        • 1539days says:

          Except you are mixing apples with orchards. Condemning Marxism implies there’s some other flavor of socialism that’s better than the others. The term “fundamentalist religion” however is code for “Islam is the same as Christianity because Atheism is better.” There was a guy who said religion is the opiate of the masses. What was his name?

  2. piper says:

    Bringing this up from last thread. Will be taking day off from blogging and reading – my head is spinning from terrorism and the POS response.
    Blech and double blech. He needed a photo op and adulation after his horrible week learning from the news about the Iranian deal and another work place incidence. Really – just a dad bonding with his daughters and their friends.

    No matter what anyone says, the murder of the 4 marines and 1 sailor was an act of terrorism and the terrorist should be as reviled as the shooter in S.C. So tired of the double standards of reporting, naming and rampaging brought to us by the POS and so-called new organization who always travel with armed security and live in protected communities.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    #TrueStory 😀

  4. Myiq2xu says:

    Weird Dave:

    Disney makes a movie where the two central characters are strong, independent women and the males are all relegated to supporting roles, and this is just another example of how the patriarchy works to keep women oppressed. Right.

    It’s not just Disney. Everything in popular media and culture that even mentions traditional behavior is constantly under attack by these clowns and losers. The Political Hat’s Twitter feed (@Thepoliticalhat) is a wonderful place to see this insanity on display. Not because Hat is a SJW or anything (The Social Justice Hat?) but because he makes it his mission to expose this stuff to daylight by retweeting or linking the madness. I remember one that he retweeted, and I’m paraphrasing here because I don’t have the exact tweet handy, “We wouldn’t have had to come up with the term cis-normative if y’all hadn’t have insisted on calling yourselves normal. You’re welcome”, or words to that effect.

    Well, guess what, Sunny Jim? I am normal. And you are not.

    “Normal” is a word that has a specific definition.

    normal [nawr-muh l] : adjective 1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural. 2. serving to establish a standard. 3. Psychology. 1. approximately average in any psychological trait, as intelligence, personality, or emotional adjustment. 2. free from any mental disorder; sane.

    The reason that Frozen resonates with little girls is because 90% of them want to grow up and find a boy to love who will love them. They want to settle down and raise a family and have a normal life. 90% of little boys out there identify with Simba; they just can’t wait to be king and anticipate having to fight and defeat Scar to do it.

    That’s just the reality of life, and we have to stop being afraid to say so. For a moment, let’s think of society as a wooden house, and people as the 2 X 4s that that house is built of. The truck from Home Depot drops off a bunk of 2 X 4s, and you set to work sorting them. Most of the boards are straight and true, these you put in one pile. Some of them, however, are not going to be straight or true. They’ll be twisted, or curved or short: abnormal in some fashion. These you put in a second, smaller pile. Here’s the $64000 question: From which pile are you going to select a board to be used as a template for your house design, the larger pile or the smaller one? If you chose the smaller pile, I don’t really want to go into your house when you’re done building. It’ll likely fall on me.

    None of this means that the boards in the second pile are not useful. Some can be trimmed to fit in certain spaces, some will fit perfectly in spots that don’t need a straight and true standard 2 X 4. It just means that you don’t design the house around the boards that aren’t normal.

    Now, let’s take this concept back to human society.

    If someone is gay, they are not normal.

    If someone is transgendered, they are not normal.

    If someone is poly-amorous, they are not normal.

    If someone believes that they are dragon kin, they are not normal.

    And so on. You know what? ****drum roll**** So what? Who really cares? There has never been another society in the history of the world that is as accommodating of people who are abnormal as 21st Century Western Civilization. You’re gay? Fabulous. Transgender? Sounds like fodder for a movie of the week. Poly-amorous? Just don’t do it in the street and frighten the livestock. And so on. Our society is perfectly happy to allow just about any predilection, kink or fetish to be practiced by any individual as long as it isn’t harming other people.

    The problem is that that wasn’t good enough. There is a small but incredibility noisy faction of abnormal people for whom acceptance and toleration wasn’t enough. For these people that fact that they were abnormal, for whatever reason, became not a quirk but a malignant hate. They know that they are not normal, but instead of accepting that they were different and moving on, they feel compelled to attack what is normal and try to destroy it.

    And this is where the problem starts. Because they are a twisted board, they think the entire house should be designed to be built of twisted boards. If every board were twisted, this would be a great idea, but since 90% of the boards are straight, the resulting house will not be structurally sound. It will collapse.

    We have to reign this in or we’re finished. To do that we need to do several things:

    #1 Realize what a tiny minority of people are making all of the noise. Our society is so interconnected and mass marketed today that a tiny, tiny number of people can assume a presence all outsized to their true proportions. Hundreds of ethics complaints were filed to ruin Sarah Palin, almost all of them came from just one person. If all you judge by is popular mass media, you’d think that these SJW types are a majority. In fact they are not, they are a very, very, very, very vocal minority attempting to drown out the voices of the majority by sheer will. This is perhaps the greatest lesson of Gamergate and the recent Reddit scandal.

    #2 Reject the “I’m offended” gambit. This is one of their strongest weapons. Since we live in a pluralistic society, we are trained from birth to be sensitive to the feelings and opinions of others. This is necessary for a pluralistic society to function. Abnormal people have seized upon this reluctance to willingly offend and weaponized it. “That’s offensive to me!” reflexively puts a lot of people on the defensive. Oh! I certainly didn’t mean to offend, better apologize. Do that, and you’ve lost. This is extremely effective with the older generation, raised in a politer time. We have to reject the idea that because someone claims to be offended that that validates their position. I get offended all the time, but because I’m a white male I’m expected to swallow it. My being offended is offensive to these prigs who will then attempt to beat me into submission with it. Don’t let them. If someone claims that your normal behavior or beliefs offends them, the correct response is “Too bad”.

    #3 Finally we need to reassert the benefits of what’s normal. Generally speaking, things are normal because they work to the benefit of the maximum amount of people. We should seek to make accommodations to those who are abnormal, but not at the expense of what’s working for the vast majority of the rest of us. That’s my beef with gay marriage. Gay people said “It’s not right that straights can get married and acquire a bunch of advantages that we don’t have because we’re gay”. Thoughtful people looked at the situation, agreed, and sought ways to accommodate the needs of gay people through civil unions and the like. Activists said “Forget it, we demand you change what works for most of the population to suit us”, and when people weren’t generally willing to do that, they went to the courts to force their POV. Now “marriage” doesn’t mean “marriage”, and if trends continue with every other group demanding that “marriage” be changed to accommodate their tiny fetish, where does that leave us? Today, you meet someone who says “I’m married”, you know what that means. In the future if “I’m married” that you have to enquirer if that means to a woman or to a clown, a transvestite and a troop of gibbons, does the word have any meaning anymore? And if the word loses meaning, is the majority of society, the normal people, better off, or worse off? I think the later.

    Finally, a note. It is important that you understand that I am not using the term “abnormal” as a pejorative. I’m using it in a statistical manner. There is no value judgment attached. If 80% of people get married, and 20% do not (I have no idea the actual percentages), than marriage is normal and being single is abnormal. That isn’t to say that being single is bad, it just isn’t the norm. And that’s ok. I personally like liver quite a bit. Brussel sprouts too. Liver and brussel sprouts would be a fantastic meal, a real treat. I’m pretty abnormal in thinking that.

    • 1539days says:

      After Futurama on Comedy Central the other day, I ended up watching a few minutes of Jon Stewart. He was talking about the gay marriage ruling, but mostly showing clips of people who say it will lead to polygamy. Stewart’s response is that it won’t “because people aren’t born polygamist.”

      Luckily, Stewart is off the air in a month because what he said could very well be used against him in a few years. I know people who consider themselves born polyamorous, which means they don’t feel like they need to be in a relationship with just one other person. For those of us with clear lines, that’s no problem. You can do what you want, but the government shouldn’t be licensing it.

      If you base all your actions on what people feel like, plural marriages will eventually have to be legal. A gay marriage is a biologically ineffective union mimicking a biological pair bond. A plural marriage could actually lead to children, albeit children that are less than 70% of the genetic material of that marriage. A plural marriage actually makes more sense than a gay marriage.

      My roundabout point is that everyone works in their self interest. People can’t always get what they want. Trying to give it too them is going to eventually fail and in a predictably spectacular fashion.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I read recently that polygamists can only claim one legal wife, the rest are considered “single moms” and qualify for all kinds of assistance. If they make them legal, it would save taxpayers a lot of money! Much like the spouses in the now legally gay marriages, welcome to tax hell !

        • 1539days says:

          In the US, where it is still illegal, polygamists will marry a wife, then legally divorce her to marry the next one. Being ex-wives, they would be eligible for certain benefits that a married woman would not.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I would think unwed mothers would do better ? Wouldn’t a divorce make Mr. Swinging Dick cough up some support ?

          • 1539days says:

            The sister wives don’t contest the divorces because they know it’s only to keep the gubment off their backs. You have to request alimony and child support.

          • leslie says:

            So, what are those certain benefits that ex-wives would be eligible for?

    • 49erDweet says:

      Bingo! Times six jillion!

  5. 1539days says:

    Nutroots is the same week as ComiCon? That’s going to hurt attendance.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I couldn’t believe #NN15 was trending yesterday, there was no there there. Other than a few cons driving by the feed, it was a snoozefest.

      • leslie says:

        I took a look after you mentioned it, Denise. It was< a snoozefest. It took no time to breeze through the tweet. there was nothing of substance there.

  6. Has no one watched that youtube video? It’s an acid trip wrapped in an Xtacy buzz injected by a methhead. It’s f*cking WHACK.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Just noticed McCain is trending on twitter, pulling out the POW stories, wonder why? Oh wait, his Senate seat is being challenged and Trump is picking on him. (McCain started that fireball by calling Trump’s supporters “crazies”). Well, we’ll have none of that young man…….. 😀

    • Myiq2xu says:

      • DeniseVB says:

        That was a good response from Rick. Clinton passed the military sniff test, so I’ll give anyone a pass on veteran status. McCain always plays his POW card when the going gets tough. I admire the man and what he and others went through for all those years and survived. Though others went on to have careers, McCain seems to have made a career of being a former POW. I’m not sure he’s even been a good Senator and tends to gang up on the “whacko birds” Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Paul etc.

        • 49erDweet says:

          I think he’s been mailing it in for over a decade. Because of that, he’s lost the respect he earned bc of Hanoi. I can say that bc I’m older……and smarter, apparently. At least I knew enough to pull the plug.

      • lyn says:

        Perry just did a “sock-it-to-me” tweet.

    • AFVet says:

      Poor Johnny….. RETIRE ALREADY !!!
      Yes, and the challenger is a WOMAN !
      My God John, now what are you going to do ?

      Go now and eat your soup.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Back over at #NN15, AlJazeera loves them some ElizWarren. She’s still not running for Pres, she has a better job waiting for her (perhaps finishing off the USA?).

  9. Dora says:

    It doesn’t sound like Hillary made much of an impression.

    Hillary is outdone in first major Iowa test as Bernie Sanders calls for a ‘revolution’ and Martin O’Malley has some Clinton partisans on their feet – and she talks mostly about HERSELF

    In the Democrats’ first ‘cattle call’ event of 2015, all five presidential candidates appeared on the same stage. Clinton spoke of herself while two of her more energetic rivals fed red meat to the lions


    • 49erDweet says:

      Remind me again. Which candidate is the old fart senior citizen here?

    • leslie says:

      . . . “and she talks mostly about HERSELF” She must figure it works for bronco so she’s gonna do it too. What she hasn’t figured out yet is that she isn’t that interesting this go-round. And she hasn’t offered anything – at all.

  10. Myiq2xu says:

    Via Hot Air:

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.

    Khamenei said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    “Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won’t change at all,” he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

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  14. Myiq2xu says:

    Donald Trump might finally have crossed the line.

    Appearing on Saturday at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, the real estate mogul took his running feud with Arizona Sen. John McCain to a new level.

    “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

    The remarks, which came after days of back-and-forth between McCain and Trump, were met with scattered boos.

    Twitter is asplodin’

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317.html#ixzz3gGbLzGM9

    • DeniseVB says:

      Trump responds……..via FB less than an hour ago….

      I am not a fan John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA. He is yet another all talk, no action politician who spends too much time on television and not enough time doing his job and helping the Vets. He is also allowing our military to decrease substantially in size and strength, something which should never be allowed to happen.
      Furthermore, he was extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came to listen to me speak about illegal immigration in Phoenix last week by calling them “crazies”.
      These were not “crazies”—these were great American citizens.
      I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren’t captured and are also heroes.
      I want to strengthen our military and take care of our Veterans. I want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN especially for those that serve to protect our freedom. I am fighting for our Veterans!

      • Lulu says:

        John McCain is a great military hero but he is also a shitty Senator. One does not exclude or excuse the other.

        • lizzy says:

          He is older than dirt; he needs to retire. I don’t know if he did a better job when he waw younger, but he is far past retirement age.

    • lyn says:

      Nope. People are sick of RINOs like McCain, and he needs to retire. He’s part of the problem.

    • 1539days says:

      Trump is as petty and unfocused as Obama with his personal attacks. John McCain wasn’t a hero because he was captured, he was a hero because he stayed a captive. While Trump was spending his daddy’s money, McCain refused to be released ahead of other POWs as a tactic by the Communists to show that an admiral’s son would get special treatment.

      McCain is a crappy politician for a number of reasons and he’s a bad person for a few others, but his actions in Vietnam were no less than heroic.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I agree days. I’ll never forget the day the POW’s were released to great celebration, it was indeed a bright spot in that dark war. A friend was 9 months pregnant at the time, and named her baby boy after the first POW to deplane…..Jeremiah (Denton).

      • 49erDweet says:

        McCain flew quite a few combat missions. Hero. When captured, he turned down a PR early release. Hero. He suffered injuries bc of that turndown. Hero. None of that can be taken away from him. BUT none of that means he’s a smart, wiley, clever statesman-politician with the smarts to lead the nation. He isn’t.

        Does anyone remember The Manchurian Candidate? That “story” was based on fact out of WWII.

        Nothing JM has done since Vietnam convinces me he has the will and intellect to independently run the country. To me, his political posturing and maneuvers scream “puppet”. Sorry. Just my opinion.

  15. Lulu says:

    The NutRoots twitter has BlackLivesMatter not liking Bernie. Old Left versus New Left. Which is weirder and more self obsessed is the great question of our age. /S/

  16. OMG, how I freakin’ love Stephen A. Smith. He has always been a contrarian and agitator.

    What I dream is that for one election, just one, every black person in America vote Republican….

    Black folks in America are telling one party, ‘We don’t give a damn about you.’ They’re telling the other party, ‘You’ve got our vote.’ Therefore, you have labeled yourself ‘disenfranchised’ because one party knows they’ve got you under their thumb. The other party knows they’ll never get you and nobody comes to address your interest.


    • 1539days says:

      Blacks originally stopped voting Republicans because they were ignoring the plight of Black people.

      • DeniseVB says:

        A quick trip through the WaPo archive headlines, not much love for black conservatives, you know, actually inspirational and successful black folk. Especially Ben Carson, WTF?

  17. DeniseVB says:

    Just received this email …. damage control on the #NN15Townhall brouhaha.

    Dear Denise,

    Netroots Nation stands in solidarity with all people seeking human rights.

    With today’s Town Hall, our aim was to give presidential candidates a chance to respond to the issues facing the many diverse communities represented here.

    Although we wish the candidates had more time to respond to the issues, what happened today is reflective of an urgent moment that America is facing today.

    In 2016, we’re heading to St. Louis. We plan to work with activists there just as we did in Phoenix with local leaders, including the #BlackLivesMatter movement, to amplify issues like racial profiling and police brutality in a major way.

    It is necessary and vital to continue this conversation. We look forward to doing so in the coming year.

    Yours for the cause,

    Raven Brooks
    Executive Director, Netroots Nation

  18. mothy67 says:

    Went to kids softball game 93 degrees. You betcha she was MVP. I had to walk to the main road as there is no smoking in the park. Sisters of the poor run an old age home. Hundreds of motorcycles in the parking lot. Patio filled with bikers nuns and people in wheel chairs. Quite a sight. They do it every year I am told. Have a huge bike run and finish up at a senior home run by nuns that still wear habits. Amazing thing to behold. Nothing looked like it belonged with anything else. They give all the money thy raise to th nuns. So cool it is in the middle of no where. They dont get a blurb in the Sunday paper. They just do it. Did I mention my brat was MVP.

  19. Dora says:

    Sad News: 😦

    Navy Petty Officer Randall Smith Becomes 5th Victim of Chattanooga Terror Attack
    Petty Officer Randall Smith became fifth victim of the Chattanooga terrorist attack.


  20. What a day! Started out without much promise, but ended up with the left & the right fighting about two three old rich white guys and a three-way-pop-sensation takeover of Twitter in an inter-fans fight over Ariana Grande, Louis Tomlinson, and Justin Belieber.

    #WTF indeed…

    • 1539days says:

      I’m getting old. I don’t even know who Louis Tomlinson is.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I think it’s the tweeny bopper “idol” who knocked up his former girlfriend ? Hey now, my professional journal is People Mag, don’t hate me 😉

      • He’s in One Direction. If it makes you feel better, I had to look the whole thing up. I could not figure out why ArianaRESPECTLouis was trending all. damn. day.

      • If I was on Facebook, I could Favorite this. But I am not, and grateful! 😉

        • 1539days says:

          I notice my comments get liked sometimes, but I can’t do it. I wonder if you have to be a blog admin to do it.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            I have been meaning to ask about that because I do not see anything even when logged into to word press. I think you might be right that you that have admin privileges.

          • You can do it using the WordPress app. I usually do it using the admin feature. WordPress app is good, but the commenting volume is so heavy I can’t always keep up there.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I can likey when someone responds to my comment. I’m usually so damn happy when someone does 🙂

          • 1539days says:

            I see what you mean. I just liked your comment.

          • DeniseVB says:

            Yep 😉 I think we tried the little thumby things for up/down votes on each comment on the feed. I think it was fear of the thumbs down we didn’t like. Such special snowflakes we are here /s

          • 49erDweet says:

            In my case I can “like” a comment, etc., on Android but not on Microsoft. Except one day about three weeks ago I could suddenly “like” a comment on Microsoft, too. For about six hours. Then KAAABOOM! It all ended.
            I blame Bush.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        I can’t help you with Louis. I only know Grande because of her donut fetish that she tried to cover overs as being her presentation of living art portraying the problems MO faces in getting people to eat soylent green. I think that Justin is one of those ex teeny bopper idols gone wild.

        Makes me glad I grew up in the era of Davy Jones and Bobby Sherman.

        • 1539days says:

          Grande was second banana on two different Nickelodeon shows. She actually has some signing ability, but all her music goes through the autotune sausage grinder when she’s not doing those excessive Mariah Carey runs in a song.

  21. “spose to have nested under Denise. }:-(

  22. It’s pathetic how lame “The Monkeys” are today in reruns. Back then….swoon! Except for Hendrix and the Stones! LOL! Still like Peter and Mike tho.

  23. Correction: Micky and Mike. hahahhahhahahah!

  24. leslie says:

    Dtr #1 is at the Taylor Swift concert tonight. Even mother nature complied. There was a tornado watch due to expire at 10:00, but cancelled at 6:30. The concert was to start at 7:00. Traffic news said NOTHING was moving near Soldier Field due to the masses going to the concert. Dtr’s friend drove inform near Detroit with their 9 y/o girls, for the show. The weather has been unlivable for the past 2 days. Temps in the 90’s and humidity not far behind. The rain this afternoon was worse than anything I’ve seen in ages. I sat in my car for 25 minutes in a parking lot until the downpour turned to rain. The temp dropped 9 degrees at that time. Currently in the low 80’s and predicting low 70’s before the concert ends. The little girls (and even some of the “big” girls) are so excited. I’m excited for them all.
    The big giveaway this week on all the radio programs were tickets to see this show.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Mother Nature is a Swifty too!

      • leslie says:

        Apparently so. My dtr has texted me non-stop for the past 30 minutes with details of the opening performers “Haim”. She is loving them. (But not so much that she hasn’t stopped texting me) I imagine the moment TS comes on, I’ll stop hearing from her. She laughs at me because I know so many of TS music. And then brags about her “cool mom” to her friends. 😉

      • leslie says:

        She just came on stage and opened with “Blank Space”. I heard it all. Dtr #1 made certain I got to hear the opening song. isn’t she a charmer – Dtr #1 – I mean … she said everyone in the audience got a bracelet that lights up so they could turn it on while she was singing.
        My daughter – who wasn’t as excited as I was for her – is now really excited. I ❤ when things turn out this way.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I’m #jealous

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I wish I had a daughter/granddaughter the right age so I had an excuse to go to a TS concert without looking too pervy.

        • Myiq2xu says:
          • leslie says:

            Thanks for all these pics. I didn’t hear from Dtr #1 until 12:30 this morning. The uber cabs were making a killing. the trains were running later and were longer than usual on a weekend. they even re-routed some trains for this concert. I’m still shaking my head at what a difference this was/is from other concerts here. Not even U2 or the Stones got this much (positive) attention from the city. Dtr said that she was impressed by the positive messages TS gives to her fans. And that she (TS) is really respectful of the audience.

    • leslie says:

      My dtr says that “never in the history of Soldier Field have there been so many females”. Also the bathroom lines are miserably long. (That’s because the place was designed by a man) Just saying….

      • Jadzia says:

        My stepfather is a huge Melissa Etheridge fan, and one of his favorite things about going to her concerts is, and I quote, “There is never a wait for the men’s room.”

  25. So apparently Bernie Sanders said this by way of introduction at NN15:

    “Well, if you don’t want me to talk I can leave.”


    • leslie says:

      So what happened??? (I really love that he did that.)

      • The Guardian is the only major news source covering it so far, but it’s all over Daily Kos, of course. A Black Lives Matter cohort of black women protested O’Malley & Sanders. And white progressives are MAD. Fuming that BLM protest has ruined NetRoots in future, that no national candidates will attend again.

        I can’t turn away from the train wreck. By tomorrow they’ll all be singing in the same minor key, but today there is DISSENSION. People are coming out of the woodwork who haven’t posted in years. Massive spin to save Sanders is underway and O’Malley is, of course, being sacrificed. There’s articulated suspicions that–and I really cannot believe this–BLM protesters are either GOP plants or Hillary plants. I LMMFAO about every 90 seconds watching it all go down.

        • leslie says:

          Thanks, I’ll have to look at the Guardian. But if what Pelosi’s dtr tweeted (above) is any indication, I have nothing in common with those ppl any more. I can’t believe I did at one time. It’s amazing what maturity and critical thinking can do for a person.

    • leslie says:

      I never did read Kos, so I don’t know what they sound like over there. I quit reading
      “liberal” blogs for the most part when they shaming and smearing of SP was happening non-stop.
      But I just read (most) of this diary(?) and I don’t think I like the writer – or at least what he wrote – very much. It just sounded like a lot of finger wagging and I’m old enough that I don’t respond very well to some shit telling me what I did wrong. (in his/her eyes)

      • I get ya. I was a regular there for 4 years.

        • leslie says:

          And you survived. 😉

          • Yep. I wasn’t really a joiner there, though. It took me a year to comment and two to post a diary. I left when Marcos posted that Hillary’s team had darkened Obama’s skin in a picture as a racist tactic. The whole place turned into Obama central after that and I was just done.

          • leslie says:

            I did the same at one of the blogs (don’t remember which). And there was another blog where I had commented for years where someone started mocking Palin’s baby and I blew up at them/him. You don’t mock babies or the disabled where I lie and get away with it. the commenter was new, and tore into me for being a SP fanatic. He had no awareness that what he wrote was the least bit offensive. Talk about insight, awareness, judgment, etc… and I got no support from anyone. I knew that they hade gone round the bend at that point and I left in disgust. There was a dearth of ethics among that group by that time.

          • Lulu says:

            I was banned. The Bronco for America employees were working set shifts and I could track them. DK was a hired out agit-prop shop. And not a very good one either. Several other leftie blogs either acquiesced or hired out their comment sections too. Then the left in general folded. The left is run like the Stassi now. It really is in line with the Bronco plan to use the personal information database to extract the last wealth through a Pigford type operation of cities and towns to “desegregate” everything. “Black Lives Matter” is the agit-prop front for that. Banks, zoning laws, etc will be used to extract what will be modeled as reparations. They are in the “shut up” phase now.

  26. Myiq2xu says:
  27. elliesmom says:

    Uh oh, Salon thinks it’s time to draft Al Gore.

  28. Myiq2xu says:


  29. leslie says:

    calling it a night. I’ve been swamped all day (and not just by weather) and am going to bed early.
    Happy Saturday night everyone.

  30. mothy67 says:

    Wondering if the phenom of girls sports is a local thing or if it is a part of the culture. We had two games today the first at 8 am. NO parking at 715. Hundreds of people to watch softball. Very cool. Lots of fathers and daughters also there is no color. All just kids working very hard in the heat. So much respect for themselves and the other players. A kid falls or gets hit by an errant ball. There is complete silence as both teams take a knee and wait. Such a beautiful sight. The silence is chilling as every coach runs to the child. A few minutes go by and the kid raises her glove in the air. Place explodes in applause. Sorry dimocrats this is real life. No sexism, racism. Not the ugly world you try to paint. Did I mention Shay pup was MVP. She a bad ass. I have called her pup her whole life. I tell her its because her name escapes me i just cannot remember her real name. One day this woman went off on me in the grocery store. I was all kinds of monsterabusing and repressing this little girl. I kind of just stood there as she unleashed hell upon me. I was stunned. There I am in frozen foods kid is doing cartwheels and the spawn of Camille Paglia and Cujo comes at me screaming. Shayla of course barked at her.

  31. mothy67 says:

    Honestly though I know the coven my brat plays with it means so much to these delinquents to be supported. I deal with them all the time. Seeing on their faces the look of having someone there for them is priceless. I am of a strain that just does that. Two weeks ago she had 28 people in the stands. Some kids get nothing. Really emotionally on their own at 8. How do you send your kid off without water. Fill a bottle up with tap. Or say something. Last week we had three games in one day because of rain. This 8 year old had no money for food. I refuse to get sucked in so I bought all of the hot dogs the place had. One of those corny moments I bought the hot dogs and soon everyone bought everything. Tragic because the single mom seems to expect it. The world owes her something because she is a single mom. What? Last I checked my brat had a middle aged f a g raising her. Nothing is owed buck up princess. Side note I treasure my punk. She was getting er orange belt but the Sen Say( spelling way off) said he was short on wood( yes i giggled) and would anyone be willing to pass on a belt so these white belts can move on. You betchashe stepped forward. The only one.

  32. Dora says:

    AND AGAIN: Illegal Alien Accused of Brutal CT Murder Was Spared Deportation by Democrats
    How many more crimes — on top of the thousands of killings, rapes, abductions and child abuse already suffered — will Americans tolerate before demanding that Democrats and Republican Crony Crapitalists finally seal the border? Surprisingly, CBS News deigns to report:


  33. Jadzia says:

    I was just replying to Somebody’s (I think) post on the Bastille Day attacks and my post got eaten. The abbreviated version is that the Breitbart article is right, the government’s doing backflips to pin the blame on everybody but the people who are to blame. It’s just like those 3 pre-Charlie Hebdo attacks last December (Tours police-station stabbing, Dijon Christmas Market, Lyon Christmas Market). Same playbook.

    One interesting thing about the Bastille Day chemical plant attack is that the plant is AMERICAN OWNED, which may or may not be a coincidence, right?

    We have troubles of our own. Some nitwit teenagers were playing with fireworks on Bastille Day and knocked out the national high-speed train for a couple of days (just through Tours, not in the rest of the country) and knocked out our light rail (which is brand new, INSANELY popular, and one of the best things about living in town) until SEPTEMBER. Apparently they damaged a bridge that the tram uses so heavily that it’s going to take a couple of months to fix it. I’m guessing the cops are going to be patrolling the station area a bit more heavily next year.

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