I know we’re not supposed to make Nazi comparisons but Hannah Arendt nailed it with that phrase.
Abortion opponents say women seek abortions in haste and confusion. Pro-choicers reply: Abortion is the most difficult, agonizing decision a woman ever makes. Opponents say: Women have abortions because they have irresponsible sex. We say: rape, incest, fatal fetal abnormalities, life-risking pregnancies.
These responses aren’t false exactly. Some women are genuinely ambivalent; some pregnancies are particularly dangerous. But they leave out a large majority of women seeking abortions, who had sex willingly, made a decision to end the pregnancy and faced no special threatening medical conditions.
We need to say that women have sex, have abortions, are at peace with the decision and move on with their lives. We need to say that is their right, and, moreover, it’s good for everyone that they have this right: The whole society benefits when motherhood is voluntary. When we gloss over these truths we unintentionally promote the very stigma we’re trying to combat. What, you didn’t agonize? You forgot your pill? You just didn’t want to have a baby now? You should be ashamed of yourself.
The second reason we’re stuck in a defensive mode is that too many pro-choice people are way too quiet. According to the Guttmacher Institute, nearly one in three women will have had at least one abortion by the time she reaches menopause. I suspect most of those women had someone who helped them, too — a husband or boyfriend, a friend, a parent. Where are those people? The couple who decided two kids were enough, the grad student who didn’t want to be tied for life to an ex-boyfriend, the woman barely getting by on a fast-food job? Why don’t we hear more from them?
Only someone with a seriously fucked up moral compass could say that shit.
Pregnancy would have made me miss Spring Break in Cancun! How dare you try to make me feel guilty! Hands off my body!
At least she was honest about one thing – most abortions are for convenience. They aren’t all the result of rape, incest or a threat to the life of the mother. Most of those discarded kids are just unwanted.
But wait! There’s more!
Women aren’t the only ones who need to speak up. Where are the men grateful not to be forced into fatherhood?
Well here’s Touré Neblett:
This week brought us the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade and made me reflect on a moment from 15 years when I was in a committed relationship with a woman who I knew was just not the one. She also knew it probably wasn’t going to work out and then she got pregnant, and I was terrified. I have always known the importance of family and building kids into strong adults and I know I would not be who I am if not for growing up under the watchful eye of two people who loved me and loved each other. I knew that pregnant woman and I were not going to be able to form a lasting family. She decided it was best to have an abortion and days later she did, we did, and in some ways that choice saved my life. I was not then smart enough or man enough to build a family or raise a child, and I only would have contributed to making a mess of three lives.
Touré goes on to explain how he later had a child with a different woman and he really loves that child so that makes it all okay. He also said that there’s “something undeniably misogynist about the impulse to deny a woman’s dominion over her own body and limit her ability to shape her life – and impose another sense of morality on her.”
See? Touré has high moral principles!
One problem that the Left keeps running into is when they are completely honest about what they think people turn away in revulsion. They spend so much time in a leftwing echo chamber that they forget that most people don’t agree with them. Bill Clinton was successful because he understood that. That’s why he emphasized that abortion should be “safe, legal and rare.”
Kermit Gosnell and the recent Planned Parenthood videos have exposed the ugly truth – a lot of what takes place in abortion mills is not safe, legal or rare.
Seriously, these people make me sick:
Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.
It’s just a short step of logic and morality from abortion on demand to euthanasia for anyone who is a burden, like the disabled and the elderly. Or as the Nazi’s called them, “Useless mouths.”
These fuckers are the same people who mock Bristol Palin.
Also the same people people who promoted eugenics.
These are also the same people who see nothing wrong with sexualizing twelve year olds and insist that sexual activity beginning in early adolescence (or even childhood) is normal and harmless. It isn’t. It is damaging both physically and mentally for girls and boys. This is why we have non-consent laws for minors because they don’t have the judgement or social/economic power to resist. Sex is an important part of biology and social development as well as mental well being for humans. Abortion is a by product of this attitude that sex is the same as taking a shit. Abortion as toilet paper. It most emphatically is not. Sometimes I think of media, fashion, politics, pop culture as one big fat grooming operation for the exploitation of young people. Abortion is just part of the management of said grooming.
Ross Douthat:
More Douthat:
Well thought out. And many libs are of course pro-abortion. And saying you’re pro-abortion is at least more honest and consistent. The rare bit Clinton pushed was very smart. And if that became part of the actual ideology, Dems and PP would weather this much better. But they never really did. A few more videos are still coming, and they get worse each time. PP and Dems hope is that they’re ignored successfully. And maybe they will be.
wow–all you can say after that is that the argument is air tight.
every time I’ve heard CNN mention the video’s they preface it with heavily edited. Their token Republican commenter should call them out on it every time. That is a GOP problem I have though. A lot of these news shows bring on a commenter supposedly from each side and the right does not clean up mis information clearly and consistently. It should almost become a religion to do this, otherwise, the left brainwashing goes unchallenged.
The fallacy in that is the media does not want and will not allow a misinformation cleanup.
Whatever you do, DON’T WATCH THE VIDEOS!!!
The truth will set you free.
Salon is your friend!!!!!! Dummy.
Republicans won’t give him a kick-back.
😀
A statement like that isn’t going to get anyone who is on the fence to see things his way. As a matter of fact, it will do the opposite by comparing anyone who doesn’t support his latest attempt at establishing his “legacy” ( 😀 ) to the “Death to America and Israel!” crowd.
Sounds to me like he’s pandering to a severely fractured base, which means there’s trouble among the Dems.
Death to Obama’s Legacy!
I doubt the people who anthropomorphize big cats have read about the Tsavo Man-Eaters. Yikes!
Close friend who travels frequently in ZIM says vast majority of Zimbabweans don’t care a whit about Cecil. Just politics.
Bakin’ Baby Syndrome
by Mark Steyn
“Do American liberals listen to what they’re saying: What percentage of a business model does selling baby parts have to be for it to disturb you?”
http://www.steynonline.com/7090/bakin-baby-syndrome
Hypocrisy much – Toure wrote he was in a “committed” relationship with a woman who he knew was just not the one. My committed relationship lead to a long marriage.
That kind of “committed” means neither of them can afford to move. “I’m committed until I save up for my own apartment.” Or find something better ie better looking or better prospects in a new squeeze. What a shallow dummy he is.
I think they conflate “committed” with “exclusive.” She was his only lover at the time, maybe.
Serial monogamy. I call it pin ball relationships.
Contrast the videos of regular Americans breaking into cars to save babies trapped in hot cars to the PP videos.
Ooh! It sounds like there’s a republican civil war going on.
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How Jeb and the GOP Got Trumped
The establishment wanted a sweet ’16, not a 17-candidate pileup. Here’s what happened.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/gop-2016-debate-jeb-bush-donald-trump-121076.html#.VcOBWLXkKUk
Yeb! was led to believe that he would be having a coronation and the fixers and big money guys had it. Now after quotes using bad language The Donald can say !Yeb is “a horrible person, a dummy, really dumb, stupid even, a horrible, horrible person” in three seconds.
AYUP!!!!! 😆
That he initially believed them speaks volumes about his dummyhood. I no longer think GB is the dumbest of his clan.
Rience Piebus saying the nomination will be decided before March. Fuck you asshole. If the process is to protracted shorten it.
Sounds good to me. I hope he talks about this during the debate.
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Trump’s Incredibly Simple Tax Plan Just Might Take Him To The White House
http://madworldnews.com/trumps-simple-tax-plan/
Lerner really is an ignorant fascist. Funny that no one will hire her post-retirement. I’m sure she was looking forward to cashing in.
State Department request for Huma Abedin’s records waylaid for 2 months
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/08/state-department-request-for-huma-abedins-records-211955.html
Russ Feingold chair the Tea Party came out of the “trailer park” in 2010 and that’s why he lost.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/05/dem-chair-tea-party-came-out-of-the-trailer-parks/
What an asshole.
I relate more to trailer park people than Ivy indoctrinated. Oh wait maybe that’s because I was born in a trailer park.
Received a phone call from his campaign – my response no donation or vote since Russ voted for abomination care. Jerks are jerks no matter where they were born, what schools they attended and or given so-called awards (Nobel Peace Prize now reduced to a joke).
I guess he needs the extra rest. He must be exhausted from all the work he does.
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Obama pushes up start of family’s 40th vacation — leaves Friday for Martha’s Vineyard
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/40th-vacation-obamas-jet-setting-for-marthas-vineyard-a-day-early/article/2569692
Hillary Clinton Insists GOP War On Women Is Real And Is “Tired” Of Fighting It…
http://www.weaselzippers.us/230966-hillary-clinton-insists-gop-war-on-women-in-real-and-is-tired-of-fighting-it/
Maybe that’s why she always looks worn to a frazzle.
The war on women who sleep with her husband and blab to the media.
I bought a box of Pinot Grigio to imbibe figured the safe way to go as bourbon would be scary with two debates hours apart. 13 bucks for 5 L. A glass of house wine in an upscale casual restaurant is 11.
I’d love to see a company market boxed wine as an adult juice box complete with an a huge straw stuck to the side. Seriously though several boxed vinos are as good if not better than some house wines(maybe different in CA)
Fortunately, I have dress rehearsal tonight so won’t be tempted to watch live TV. Can’t believe the idiocy of pre-debate polls asking who will win? America!, silly goose.
Geraldo sounds like he is really losing it!
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Geraldo Rivera Threatens Physical Violence if Donald Trump’s Campaign Adviser Visits Fox News
http://rightwingnews.com/media/geraldo-rivera-threatens-physical-violence-if-donald-trumps-campaign-adviser-visits-fox-news/
I loathe Geraldo. I cannot watch the 5 if he is on the panel. It is the way he uses his voice. I viscerally cannot listen to him or obama. I just cannot hear them. Not even substance so much as the tone. My alarm goes off. I cannot listen to Hillary now because she disgusts me on what she is saying not so much how she says it.
Weird coz Geraldo was on Celebrity Apprentice and almost won, iirc. All his teammates loathed him though. LOL
Oh god, the kids table debate is going on. Had to bail as I didn’t have enough alcohol to handle it.
According to Twitter Carly is kicking ass.
What would she do on first/second day she contrasted progessivism v coservatism. Will not attempt to paraphrase as I will butcher but rather bored my ears perked up and I liked what she said
Thing about twitter is it so easy to manipulate. Can be used to create news that is not there. Remember Arab Spring. Yeah sure it was an organic event that took place online. Say in one breath people only earn 1 dollar per day but somehow they all have smartphones and conviently a facebook founder was there. What a load of tosh. Our representitives think we are really stupid. That aspect is what fills me with fury and why I wish I could vote for Trey Gowdy.
I am more impressed with Sen. Graham than I ever thought I would be. Fiorina is not only impressive, I think she will really move forward from today. BUT, I am not the deep thinker that many here are. I am grateful I was home to watch it. I may not be back in time for The Show.
Yeah me too. I expected him to be doofus.
I agree about Sen. Graham.
Graham has charisma. Like his policies or not, there is a reason he keeps getting re-elected.
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Hello. id did not fall off the face of the earth. I got a new computer and had it updated to windows 10. It took from last Friday until today to get the stuff transferred from my old computer and the update to windows 10.
I missed you people
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Anyone else sick and tired of these manipulative personal storie? The whole Beau Biden asked his father to run meme makes me sick to my stomach. This may sound callous but the whole Ted Kennedy damage was facillitated by American’s compassion to the tragedies of that family.
One of my favorite Trumpisms was his attack on Caroline Kennedy’s appointment. Ambassador? Really? I cannot imagine losing a son but using his death in every article rubs me the wrong way.
Is someone going to post a debate thread? I plan on being too drunk to type coherently by then.
Hey Klown, I’ll post the debate open thread if it’s okay with you. Me and Anthony ate going to do the radio show and I want to post the details. Thx!
Awesome.
Wonderful – would love hearing your’s and Anthony’s assessment of debate. Let the Klown sleep in.
Fourth ad for Pat Tommey. He is major disappointment . All ads are pro veterans. He had Tea Party support to get rid of that creature Specter, but he has been epic fail.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/230977-breaking-alabama-governor-terminates-all-state-funding-for-planned-parenthood/
wonder how many states will follow
Didn’t Jindal already do it? WHy is noone saying if obamacare is so good and everyone is insured why do we need to substize planned parenthood. Ocare pays for abortion and medicaid covers more than standard insurance. Why is there a 500 million dollar need if obamacare cured lack of healthcare???????
Ben Carson said just that on CNN when he was asked how poor women could get services with no PP.
Carly SLAYED at the mini-debate.
Yes. Yes she did. The @Democrats are scared out of their wits by her. The tweets from them about @CarlyFiorina have been non-stop since near the end of the “happy Hour” debate.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/230987-open-thread-2016-gop-undercard-presidential-debate/
You Go Carly
Miss Lindsey stepped up to the plate, so to speak. 🙂 Unfortunately for him, he was pretty flat and kind of a one trick pony.
^See?^ They (@Democrats)are really scared of Carly………..
I replied: “Why do you hate strong women?”
Of course you did… 😉
I’m on FF and hope this works…
Two more points on mini-debate:
1. I didn’t even know Jim Gilmore or that he was running before today, but he reminds me a lot of my dearly departed paw paw, so I like him.
2. As much as I personally dislike Jindal (LA governor, remember) and can’t understand how people like him — he had the best one liner of the night “Immigration without assimilation is invasion.”
From the bits I saw, and yes, after some lubrication, I returned to watching, Carly was way better than the rest. She won hands down. If she can get some press, she’ll be in the top tier going forward. Good for her. Best part, she scares the crap out of the Dems, so more fun out here in the peanut gallery.
According to Fox poll results Carly won the debate with 83%
Tweety Tingles Gets Bitch-Slapped by Carly Fiorina
A well deserved ass-kicking by Carly.
Tweety — the man who in 2008 said the only reason Hillary won the Senate is because people felt sorry for her because her husband cheated on her now wants to be so offended on her behalf? BWAHAHAHAHA. Blow it out your asshole, Tweety.
Go Carly! Go Carly!
*I should have said: Blow it our the NEW asshole Carly just gave you, Tweety.
“The banality of evil” makes me think of this, “The frivolity of evil”:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_4_oh_to_be.html
I have to confess a part of my inclination towards Trump is that he is abrupt. I findthe talk of Bidens son and Hillary’s mom story vomit inducing. SO sad Joe lost a son but every damn article mentions his son asking him to run..Are we reading a fairy tale or electing a president. I am of Irish Catholic extraction. I am an asshole. My sister had a brain tumor. Knock wood but she is cancer free. I saw her in the hospital. My one year younger than me sister. Isaid can I see the whole in your heaf and then I always knew there was something wrong with you. My sister said you are an ass. Some do gooder social worker told us we would regret if we did n’t say I love you. Oh my God d id we laugh at the .thought. Simple woman was unable to process me saying let me see thevwhole in your head and she saying you are an ass was saying I love you. My sister is such a bitch tumor was benign and lung growth is shrunk. Just funny these intellectuals Phds think they understand life and death. I am afraid of losing someone I love so I mask it What a fucking joke i cried to God on the kitchen floor begging my god to take me instead. I fell apart on my own but I was met with people that told me it was okay to cry. Seriously there are people that get paid to say this stuff.