GAME OVER: WaPo Claims “Facts” Are Subjective


Ever since she blasted Planned Parenthood in the second debate Carly Fiorina has been targeted by the Lamestream (Democrat) Media. First they said she lied about the PP video, then last week The Fact Checker at the Washington Post claimed she was lying about her personal story.

The latter claim drew quite a bit of negative reaction, so Glenn Kessler posted a reaction to the reaction wherein he claims that facts are subjective:

Our recent fact check on Carly Fiorina’s claim that she went “from secretary to CEO” generated heavy criticism from readers. The fact check was either a thoughtful analysis or shoddy hit piece — which is not an uncommon range of responses to our fact checks. But the brunt of reaction came from readers in the latter camp.

The majority of readers who responded via e-mail, social media and article comments particularly objected to the Three Pinocchio rating. They said her claim was factual — at most worth Two Pinocchios — because the two pieces of fact (that she did work as a secretary, that she did become a CEO) were, indeed, accurate.


Pinocchio ratings inherently are subjective, and we often find it difficult to reach a decision. (We frequently second-guess ourselves in the morning.) Our One Pinocchio rating may be another reader’s Three Pinocchio rating, and vice versa. So we aim for consistency in how we apply ratings. It is especially difficult to decide between a Two or a Three, since a Three is a tipping point that indicates a claim is mostly false as opposed to being half-true.


In our minds, the Fiorina case was similar. The “secretary to CEO” line is a central part of her campaign; it even merited its own Web site. She frequently pitched it as an “only-in-America” story. Yet her career really started after she earned her business degree and began working at AT&T as a sales representative. (Some readers, such as John Sexton of Breitbart, pointed to a line in a biography that “perhaps Fiorina’s first taste of business came when she worked for real estate broker Marcus & Millichap for a few months that year” as a sign that the secretary’s job is really the start of her career. But even if one accepts that, it does not mitigate the other advantages she had.)

At this point, we do not see a reason to change the rating. We are comfortable with the analytic process we used to reach the final result. We can certainly see the case for Two Pinocchios or even One, but believe that would not have been consistent with the way we had applied the Three Pinocchio rating in the past. If Obama got Three, then the thinking was that Fiorina deserved Three as well.

No rating is set in stone, and many readers have asked us to revise the rating. We generally revise ratings if we receive new information that changes our understanding of the facts. In this case, there is no new information — except maybe for the fact that many readers believe our reasoning is idiotic. But, as noted above, the rating appears consistent with how we have applied it previously. Thus, lacking additional information, we will retain the rating. We realize that will be disappointing to many who have complained.

(Emphasis added)

The truth is NOT subjective. The media’s belief that truth is subjective helps explain this:


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75 Responses to GAME OVER: WaPo Claims “Facts” Are Subjective

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    This really deserves it’s own post but I’m lazy and I just posted:

  2. DandyTIger says:

    So I’m not the only one screaming “fuck you” at the TV when I put the news on.

  3. Myiq2xu says:

  4. Myiq2xu says:
  5. Myiq2xu says:

    Or to pick some up.

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Have been peeking in an out of the PP hearings all day. Disclaimer: I’m pro-choice up to the safe, legal, rare 12 week “program” but WTF , okay, 20 weeks, not good enough either ? I give up.

  7. Yeah, I stopped reading that WaPo article on Fiorina when the headline said one thing and the article clearly said another. It was obviously sexist. And this “when she started her career” shit is obviously cover. Nobody said shit when Bill was just a boy from Hope (who coincidentally went to fucking Hahvard) or that Paul Ryan went from a job at McDonald’s to the House of Representatives, by way of Miami University (ranked 75th in the top tier of colleges) and a number of connections established therein. Nobody said shit about “when they began” anything, because if you wield a penis, all your shit matters; it’s all one beautiful, mad fucking narrative.

  8. Mwahahaha! Now we know your real name, Klown. But when did you decide to write for the NYT?

  9. Myiq2xu says:
  10. SHV says:

    I just read that Ms. Richards of PP has never heard of a baby surviving an abortion and needing medical care. She has selective hearing. About 20 years ago, I operated on a baby who survived abortion. IIRC, he spent about two months in the neonatal ICU and went home doing well. I doubt if that is a unique case.

  11. Underwhelmed says:

    Via Breitbart:

    ‘At one point, as Live Action president Lila Rose tweeted, she was asked if babies who survive abortions should be given medical care, Richards replied, “I have never heard of such a circumstance happening.”

    Which, honey? That it happened, or that any of your butchers gave a shit?

  12. Venus says:

    Teamsters vote unanimously to withhold endorsement of Hillary “at this time.” Want to see if Biden jumps in and to talk to Trump!
    This could be game over for Hillary (if they end up backing Biden) and game over for Jeb! and the rest of the GOP (if they back Trump).

    • Dora says:

      It wouldn’t surprise me if they endorse Trump. He employs a lot of union workers in New York and .they have always had good dealings with him. If they do endorse Trump, it might also have to do with the flood of illegals coming over the border taking their jobs.

  13. Venus says:

    Rubio is on Hannity right now — I really don’t like this slick fraud. He was asked about defunding Planned Parenthood and he goes on about how the GOP doesn’t take their case to the people, etc. but meanwhile he did not even show up today to vote on it.
    Rubio = baby Jeb! as far as I’m concerned.

    It’s gotten to where I will only bother to vote if one of these 4 get the nomination: Carly, Cruz, Carson and Trump (in order of preference).

    Everyone else can fuck off. The “uni-party” can win without my vote.

    • NewOrleans says:

      I’m yelling about the same thing with those in my house! Sean didn’t even ask him about missing the vote!

      • 1539days says:

        Hannity is not going to take a stand on any single candidate until the convention.

        • leslie says:

          I can’t watch Hannity. I don’t think he’s the brightest and his constant harping on the same point – no matter what it is – grates on me. He doesn’t know how to ask an “open
          question. Just listen to him. He expresses his own position and then asks them to agree. (or disagree) and then talks over them.

    • votermom says:

      Those are the same ones I would vote for!

      • mothy67 says:

        Me too except Carly. She maybe accomplished but where is she on trade, immigration, et al.

        • Jadzia says:

          Actual conversation with my conservative, French mother in law.

          MIL: “Donald Trump is scary!”

          Me: “Why?”

          MIL: “He wants to deport all the illegal immigrants!”

          Me: “Yes, I think that’s his position.”

          MIL: “We should do that!!!!”

          I’m not sure the word “scary” means what she thinks it means.

        • NewOrleans says:

          She’s not even accomplished. She had one really good job, she screwed it up and has never gotten another one. And with the ways CEOs are constantly getting shuffled around in the business world, THAT says a ton about her.

    • lyn says:

      I’ll vote for any of those four too.

    • blowme0bama says:

      I SO want to support Carly, but her immigration policy MUST begin with DEPORT. I fear she has too much grounding in the globalization BS to put Americans first in every.single.instance.

      Haven’t made up my mind completely on Carson, but he: 1) seems too easy-going in light of what has to be done; and 2) seems too malleable, e.g., reversal on immigration at 2nd debate.

      Rubio – too effing slick = phony, plus he’s an immigration panderer. Comes off as wet behind the ears as well. Yes, Jeb! Jr.

    • leslie says:

      I know! And Trump was criticized for saying that Rubio has missed more votes than anyone in Congress. He’s like bronco – except for (maybe) his position on abortion. I think he’s an opportunist.
      My voting preference is Cruz, Trump, Fiorina. I would vote for Carson if he were the nominee, but he’s not on my ‘A’ list.

  14. smile says:

    I wanted to post this video of a fetus that survived abortion and is now a beautiful adult person.

  15. lyn says:

    If you need a good laugh, please watch!

  16. elliesmom says:

    Shameless promotion- Book by Debbie Noble, illustrations by my daughter. All of your grandbabies need this book. 😉

  17. DeniseVB says:

    Guess who’s coming to the Beach ? Event has “sold out”, though I wasn’t planning on going anyhow because of the traffic nightmare it would be. Me no like traffic jams for hours.

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  19. DeniseVB says:

    Yikes ! There’s a potential we’re going to be attacked by a Spaghetti Monster !! Eleventy!!!!!

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Game changer for Ms “PP” Mengele ?

  21. DeniseVB says:

    LOLz, Hillary supporters 😀

  22. Gram Krakka says:

    Breitbart quotes Louisiana R rep who says Trey Gowdy will retire from congress after his term expires. Wants to see Bengazhi hearings through then return to SC & family.

  23. Dora says:

    They’re beautiful. His son Barron has the face of a Little Donald. 🙂

    At Home with Donald Trump and His Family

    • DeniseVB says:

      Good grief what is it with People having a Duggar on the cover, even a small corner, almost every week ? Looking forward to this week’s issue though 🙂

  24. helenk3 says:

    a short break for something good.
    this is a few days old
    remember this young lady?

  25. mothy67 says:

    The Donald should hire Guiterez as he pisses people off to no end. My brother is a boilermaker and has a family Cadillac Plan. He is going to get spanked at tax time and now this clown wants to make illegals eligible for subsudies. He quotes Pope Climate Change.

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