Monday Open Thread : Clown Edition

You know what to do…Let Halloween season continue with your lovely fallscapes and whatevers 😉

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134 Responses to Monday Open Thread : Clown Edition

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Those famous DC cherry trees give a pretty awesome performance in the fall too.

  2. Dora says:

    Beautiful picture.

    Unfortunately autumn seems to have disappeared from Long Island already. The temperature right now is 35 degrees and part of Upstate NY has 9 inches of the white stuff on the ground.

    No No No! It’s too soon. 😦

  3. Dora says:

    Because of the campaign, this is back in the news again. Opinion piece from October 2012

    The Deafness Before the Storm

    IT was perhaps the most famous presidential briefing in history.

    Could the 9/11 attack have been stopped, had the Bush team reacted with urgency to the warnings contained in all of those daily briefs? We can’t ever know. And that may be the most agonizing reality of all.

    • piper says:

      Since things are going south for our histrionic president, it’s time to push the blame game on ole GWB.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I think Condi took the fall for that one. She was the NSA at the time and thought “terrorists flying planes into buildings” was not possible. It was included in the PDB, but most agreed with her. At least they didn’t blame a video.

      Even if they took that intelligence seriously, I don’t think it could have been prevented by banning box cutters since two credit cards are strong enough to cut someone’s throat. Also, the “papers” were in order for the perps to pass through security. The plan had to have begun during Clinton’s term, but he was busy being impeached at the time and lame ducking the rest of his term. IMO.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        Imagine the media reaction if on September 1, 2001 George Bush had announced all kinds of new security rules for flying based on what they knew then. The new rules might have made the terrorists change their plans, but we would never know how close we came. The Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) would have mocked GWB for being paranoid.

        They still wouldn’t have arrested the terrorists because all they would have was vague suspicions. Any of the 19 terrorists who was arrested would get the Mumia treatment and the government would be accused of racial profiling.

        • DeniseVB says:

          This is a good story from Oct 2001 about El Al’s (Israel’s airline) security. It would never work in the U.S. airline industry. So even if Bush wanted to implement this badassery based on that intel report, pre-TSA and DHS, the Dems would have gone off the rails. U.S. airlines don’t want to spend the money or inconvenience their passengers.

          I used to kid my son that they should cross train air marshals as flight attendants, which is pretty much what El Al does. I do believe the attendants on Air Force One are combat trained too. (if AFVet is peeking in today…. 😉 )

          • AFVet says:

            Yes they are Denise, ( maybe not combat trained).
            All men and women that graduate basic training at Lackland are trained in the use of firearms.
            They are also trained to have a concept of situational awareness.
            At least,….that was how it was in ’69.
            Times may have changed by now.

  4. piper says:

    For Leslie

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s interesting this popped up at Vox. It’s a fairly accurate account of the situation the Dems find themselves in, but doesn’t even touch on the reason why. The “old white guys” in the GOP have done a good job of mentoring and bringing the next generation along. They’ve given them opportunity to have their voices heard in a meaningful way. Contrary to what the left would like the world to believe, there’s a lot of diversity in the next crop of GOP politicians. In stark contrast, the Democrats have not mentored and promoted younger members of the party. The old folks are holding onto power for dear life and treat the younger members of the party as competition instead of their rightful successors. When your political modus operandi is to annihilate the competition anyway you can, i’s hard to build a bench. Matt’s post is mostly hand wringing and pearl clutching, perhaps, because to ask how things got this way would involve fish and how they rot.

      • votermom says:

        That’s pretty typical of commie regimes isn’t it? The old party leaders hang on to power for dear life until some younger group succeeds in a soft coup.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        I still find it hard to believe that Nancy Pelosi is leading the House Democrats after the 2010 debacle.

      • blowme0bama says:

        Some nitwit on Twitter commented on the Vox piece that the Ds were in this position because they’d been peddling GOP lite for years.

        Yeah, D’s have been too conservative – that’s why they’ve lost the House, Senate & 3/4 of the State governments.

      • Jadzia says:

        I have been saying this for years! Quick, name two prominent Gen-X Democratic politicians. Other than Kirsten Gillibrand and Cory Booker. I can’t. And the next generation, the millennials, should have some up and comers, but I sure couldn’t tell you who they are. Mentoring and thinking long-term about the party’s future are two things that the Republicans are doing right.

  5. helenk3 says:

    the “refugee” do not seem to be good guests in any country that takes them in. But the backtrack bunch want us to take 1000s of them. WHY?

  6. DeniseVB says:

    So, Hillary seems to be losing the youngsters to the old, white guy?

    • piper says:

      Bec. Bernie promised them the world without having to pay for anything – no work and a life of luxury – sad how they believe such drivel.

      • elliesmom says:

        Like the woman who thought Obama was going to pay her mortgage, these kids think college is going to be free. Silly rabbits, even if a President Sanders was going to push for free tuition, would it be a voucher system you could take anywhere? What if it was at government run colleges only? While some state universities are top tier schools, most are not. However, an influx of top tier students can raise the standards at a school faster than anything else. What if all of the seats in the free schools go to the top 10% of students? So here you are, Special Snowflake, with the only options available to you cost megabucks, and the smart kids you’ll have to compete with after graduation have the added advantage of being debt-free. Where the “equality” there? (If it wuld get more kids who aren’t really going to get much out of college except a big bill pause about going in the first place, I might support that.)

        If they forgave everyone’s student loans, would someone who had defaulted be in a better position than someone who worked hard and paid his off early? What about all of the parents who saved enough money their kids didn’t need loans? Would they get a rebate? My niece, bless her little heart, was all for free college tuition when she was a student herself. Now that she’s graduated and knows her paycheck would have to pay for someone else to go free after she spent the big bucks, she’s not as enthusiastic. She and her fiance want to buy a house so she can’t afford to default on her loans in hopes President Sanders will forgive them. She’s not ready to vote Republican yet, but she’s being remarkably quiet about this election.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I read recently that Mortgage Mom re-registered as a Republican because of what a huge disappointment that liar Obama was.

          I’m surprised the media lacks the intellectual curiosity to dig into those countries with free everything. They’re not the Utopias the Dem candidates are saying they are. Also those countries that give moms a paid year off after their babies are born, have a very low rate of employed women. Nothing’s free free 🙂

        • blowme0bama says:

          Hell, property taxes included, I’m paying over 30% now.

        • Jadzia says:

          As a teacher in a system that for all intents and purposes has free college education, I am all for it. But THERE ARE TRADEOFFS that I don’t think some Americans understand.

          First, it’s not a free-for-all! I teach at a respectable, middle of the pack state university. To get in, you have to pass a rigorous EXIT EXAM (the baccalaureat) at the end of your senior year of high school. If you don’t pass, no college for you. That’s not a huge barrier, so we still get a lot of students coming in for their first year (we have a severe and sudden overcrowding problem this year that I think is caused by the job market).

          Second, “free” only means free tuition (not completely free, but close enough–it’s something like 150 euros per year). You still have to pay all of your living expenses and books. For that reason, most French college students (unless they are at a top university that only takes the real cream of the crop, chosen by a competitive exam that you take after a year of post-high school cram school) live at home.

          Third, performance is REQUIRED. We flunk people out, in substantial numbers, and we do that starting at the end of the first year. You are being given a valuable benefit. You have to work hard to continue to earn your place.

          Fourth, our classes are large. Small discussion sections are rare. We can’t afford that.

          Fifth, our buildings are dilapidated by American standards. No $20 million construction projects at this university. We have classrooms, blackboards, sometimes we have computers, and heat (no air conditioning). THAT’S IT. No climbing walls, no student union, none of that BS.

          Sixth (and this part matters less to the students than to the grownups), the teachers are paid abysmally. I am on a 70% contract, teaching 8 classes this semester, and I make approximately 870 euros per month. Obviously I have a second job. This situation is not one that will attract the best and the brightest to go into college teaching. (I am brilliant, of course, but my employment options are limited here because of my terrible French.)

          That said, I am still in favor of this system. Primarily because my students DO work hard to be here–I’m not teaching the kids of some rich doofus who gave a lot of money to have his name on a classroom building, and I DO feel good about the fact that even if my students have trouble finding work after university (it’s tough all over), they are not going to be saddled with non-dischargable debt the size of a mortgage. And frankly, I don’t have any idea how you would transition the American system to one like we have even if you agree with me that our system is, on the whole, a good one. First, it IS ridiculously unfair to start giving something away when I had to pay $150K for the same thing (my university education in the States)–what do you do, forgive all the outstanding loans? I don’t know. Second, your potentates with tenure, your professors (the tenured ones, anyway) and the administrators, have LESS THAN NO INTEREST in making minimum wage, even though most of them are doing minimum work.

          Is this thing on? Ha ha.

    • piper says:

      Hopefully this will work otherwise catch me in the dungeon.

    • elliesmom says:

      The North Woods is a North American forest that covers northern Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Montana. It also covers a lot of Canada, but shouldn’t Canadians be calling them the South Woods? That’s what one of my 8th graders asked, and I kind of thought he had a point.

    • piper says:

      Absolutely beautiful – many years DH and I explored the caves and waterfalls in Wisconsin.

  7. votermom says:

    I’m thinking of making a pumpkin pie with honey and heavy cream (not today, just planning). Will that be as good as sugar & evaporated milk?

  8. helenk3 says:

    a little bit of history
    or the more things change, the more they remain the same

  9. helenk3 says:

    Biden could announce decision within 48 hours

    do not know about anyone else, but my first thought was ” Who Cares”

    • DeniseVB says:

      Hmmm, the timing of Chris Stevens emails begging for extra security from State and even suggesting he may ask another country for help may be a contributing factor ? So, I think Hillary cares 😉

  10. lyn says:

    If horror movies were realistic …

  11. SHV says:

    “Like the woman who thought Obama was going to pay her mortgage, these kids think college is going to be free.”
    “Gotta have a College Education”…the slogan for another scam that uses students to funnel tax dollars to the higher education “industry”. Many/majority(?) of students getting loans/nondischargeable debt are not academically qualified to be successful in college and either drop out or struggle through in 6+ years with a crap degree. The US has the lowest college graduation rate of 35(?) industrial countries.

    “We need free college like Europe/Asia etc.”, except in those countries, entry is based on academic standards and qualification exams.

    • lyn says:

      Our higher education industry is doing everything but educating our students to have open minds and to be critical thinkers.

      • DeniseVB says:

        It’s gotten worse under Obama. He grew up a special snowflake too and we still don’t know how he paid for Columbia and Harvard. Nothing in his history points to being a brainiac overachiever. Michelle either. Afirmative Action may have helped get them accepted and enabled through undergrad work, but neither strike me as passing the LSATs high enough for Harvard. (yeah, I learned that from Legally Blonde 😉 )

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Cummings! Daily Kos! So it must be true !

  13. Dora says:

    It seems like Jeb agrees with Trump on this one. So, what the heck are they arguing about?

    FLASHBACK: Jeb Bush Admitted ‘Leaky’ Immigration Led to 9/11

  14. DeniseVB says:

    Beauty in the North Carolina mountains too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      We used to drive to the California mtns to see fall colors and snow. Just beautiful.

      • helenk3 says:

        When I lived in Hemet Cal I would drive to the top of the hill to I10 and have a surround view of 3 different mountains. In the winter when the snow was on them and I just needed a sweat shirt I thought I was in the best place ever.
        We could up to Idlewild and see such beauty. ask 49er that was his territory. saw some amazing sunsets there

  15. helenk3 says:

    here is Tennessee
    they were all so beautiful I did not know which one to pick. so here are 38 pictures

  16. Dora says:

    Wow! I didn’t know Trump wrote about this. I’d say he won his argument with Jeb. In fact, I’m sure he knew this paper would come out again before he even began the argument with Jeb. The man is so smart.

    Over A Year Before 9/11, Trump Wrote Of Terror Threat With Remarkable Clarity

    “I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers.”

  17. lyn says:

    Thought this was interesting:

  18. lyn says:


  19. DandyTIger says:

    James Madison’s Montpelier (just up the road from me). The leaves are only just starting to turn here.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I have to admit our Virginia is beautiful in all seasons. We spent 5 years travelling back and forth to God’s Country when son was at Fork Union, (down the road from you). We were fortunate to have close friends living in C’Ville. Sometimes we borrowed a ” camper van to live by the river” on some visits, great times…..

  20. DandyTIger says:

    I want a plane like this:

  21. Myiq2xu says:


  22. cynic says:

    I am blessed to have a several sugar maples that are showing glorious colors this year. The winds are wicked today, however, and I’ll probably be raking tomorrow.

    I’m nestled between several state parks — sooo lucky!

    This place is just down the road.

    • helenk3 says:

      You are very lucky and had very good sense to move where you did

    • leslie says:

      Starved Rock is one of my favorite places. It is beautiful any time of the year.

      • cynic says:

        Have you ever gotten there via Rte. 71? When you go again, make sure you take that route. It will take you through Ottawa, which is charming, and then you will cross the IL River, and drive along side of it to the Lodge; lots of curves and tree lined road. (and we could meet up at the Lodge)

  23. Dora says:


    Latest presidential poll shows Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton in head-to-head contest,
    Trump taking 70% of the electoral votes

    • lizzy says:

      Thanks for this link. With all of Cummings lying slime about the Committee’s work it is good to hear Sharyl’s report

  24. Dora says:

    I bet you won’t be surprised.

    Guess Which Presidential Candidate Has Gotten the MOST CASH FROM DRUG COMPANIES

  25. DeniseVB says:

    Babies for Bernie !

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