False Equivalence


Just when you think that the Left couldn’t sink any lower, they go and prove you wrong. From Linda Stasi at NYDN:

Stasi: San Bernardino killers were radical, ISIS-loving monsters — but one of their victims was just as bigoted

They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

One man spent his free time writing frightening, NRA-loving, hate-filled screeds on Facebook about the other’s religion.

The other man quietly stewed and brewed his bigotry, collecting the kind of arsenal that the Facebook poster would have envied.

What they didn’t realize is that except for their different religions they were in many ways similar men who even had the same job.

One man, the Muslim, was a loser who had to travel all the way to Pakistan to get himself an email bride. (I refuse to add to their fame by using the killer and his murderous wife’s names.)

That wife radicalized him and fueled his hatred. The FBI is investigating her ties to Al Qaeda and ISIS. Go to the Middle East, meet your new wife, meet some terror leaders, begin your wedded bliss back in the USA.

The other man, the victim, Nicholas Thalasinos, was a radical Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, who also connected with his future wife online and had traveled across the country to meet her.

The killer, however, became half of an Islamic Bonnie & Clyde, while the other died as the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.

The killers deserve every disgusting adjective thrown at them. And more.

But the victim is also inaccurately being eulogized as a kind and loving religious man.

Make no mistake, as disgusting and deservedly dead as the hate-filled fanatical Muslim killers were, Thalasinos was also a hate-filled bigot. Death can’t change that. But in the U.S., we don’t die for speaking our minds. Or we’re not supposed to anyway.

Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security. He asked, “IS 1. EVERY POLITICIAN IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR? 2. EVERY POLITICIAN IS A MORON? 3. EVERY POLITICIAN IS RACIST AGAINST JEWS?” He also posted screeds like, “You can stick your Muslim Million Man march up your asses,” and how “Hashem” should blow up Iran.

His Facebook page warns that “Without HEALTHY PREGNANT WOMAN (Democrats) would have NO SOURCE of BABIES to SACRIFICE and SELL!”

We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry. Municipal workers have been fired for spewing and posting racial and sexual slurs.


I am assuming that Stasi picked the most egregious of Thalasinos’s FB postings and comments. Even if true those quotes hardly condemn Thalasinos as a raving bigot.

His family should sue for defamation.

Meanwhile, Obama is giving a speech tonight. I’m not sure what the topic is but he canceled his weekly golf game to prepare. I’m gonna be pissed if they preempt football.



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108 Responses to False Equivalence

  1. votermom says:

    Can the victim’s family sue for libel?

    • votermom says:

      Reads lost again – oh defamation.

    • blowme0bama says:

      Used to be that they couldn’t – reputation was supposed to belong only to the person defamed and didn’t survive death.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        How about intentional infliction of emotional distress?

        • blowme0bama says:

          Hmmm… Sometimes that’s also called the tort of “outrage” – roughly, it’s supposed to be conduct that is so devoid of decency, outrageously transgresses boundaries of human conduct, that it would be expected to, and would, inflict serious psychological damage (That’s my made up standard, but I think that approximates it) – some jurisdictions may require some sort of physical manifestation of the harm? (not sure on that – but something like vomiting – sleep loss?).

          Honestly, just don’t remember / know. I know it’s sort of been reserved for stuff like pranking and tormenting someone in a cruel way – mocking someone incessantly, viciously, and personally.

        • blowme0bama says:

          Hmmm…. yeah, that sort of vitriol and dishonesty directed towards a recently deceased family member – that’s pretty fucking bad.

        • Jadzia says:

          I kind of doubt it. Ask me about this again in a month after I finish prepping the torts class that I, um, haven’t started prepping for yet, but IIRC, IIED requires behavior that is a LOT more outrageous than calling somebody a bigot. The cases I’ve seen have involved things like telling somebody their child died and “HA HA HA IT’S A JOKE!!!!!” Vicious racial harassment in the workplace (beyond what Title 7 bans). Stuff like that.

          And honestly, I think that now that we are accustomed to the Internet culture of saying disgusting things about people (Trig Palin, anyone?), it is probably going to become harder to win these kinds of cases.

    • lyn says:

      Obama probably will give our tax money to the family of the slain Islamic terrorists out of sympathy, because the Po Po violated their civil rights.

  2. votermom says:

  3. Myiq2xu says:

    Tonight’s speech topic: “We need to ban guns because climate change causes postpartum workplace jihad.”

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  5. 1539days says:

    Isn’t Stasi a gossip columnist?

    It’s hard to tell those two guys apart, except for the fact that one of them KILLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND THE OTHER DID NOT. Holy shit, are we back to thought crimes again? What Stasi didn’t write is that except for the killing of a bunch of people, Farook was her kind of person. He was the kind of good Muslim that had an American job and started a family while still maintaining his exotic Muslim culture. Then he went and made the liberals look bad by being the terrorist that most conservatives have come to expect. This line in her column sums it up, because freedom is bad.

    “We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry.”

      • And a terror apologist with a history of blaming the victims.

        But are any of us really Charlie?

        American journalists and American citizens actually don’t tolerate hateful, anti-religious bigotry — not in satire, not in the media, not from our celebrities, not from our sports stars, our politicians nor our moguls. No, we don’t kill over it, but we sure as hell don’t tolerate it either — whether it is religious or racial.

        Can any of us imagine even for a moment any newspaper in this country publishing a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad with his backside in the air, a star on the crack and his genitals hanging out with the caption, “Mahomet: And a Painting is Born,” as was done on the cover of Charlie Hebdo? Imagine if that were an image of Jesus or any other great religion’s prophet.

        • jeffhas says:

          What a giant tool – and she probably doesn’t even realize it.

          I can imagine a demeaning picture of Jesus in a mainstream paper or magazine in the US for sure… And the paper would almost certainly be condemned, by about half the population – the other half would screem ‘free speech’…. and both sides would at least be partially right. The point is, amongst all the hand wringing, finger wagging and name calling would be a lack of shooting, bomb building, and people being dead and all.

          Some people like to create high drama where none really exists…. Be careful what you wish for.

      • 1539days says:

        I bet I know which author won’t be on Book Horde.

        • votermom says:

          Tempting just to trash it … But life’s too short to read bad books

          • lyn says:

            You can pretend to read it and then write a review.

          • DeniseVB says:

            lyn, great idea ! vm can start a new review genre, “Books I won’t read so you don’t have to either” or in vm’s words “Life’s too short to read bad books” LOL, I crack myself up 😛 She can still put an Amazon link “Read this instead” ?

    • Jadzia says:

      Also, city workers have MORE First Amendment rights than your average employee. If that guy had worked at McDonald’s and his manager didn’t like his Facebook posts, well, there’s employment at will for you. If you’re a government worker, you are much more protected, provided that you’re not exercising your free speech right in a way that interferes with your work (harassing or proselytizing constituents/agency clients, that kind of thing).

  6. “Meanwhile, Obama is giving a speech tonight. I’m not sure what the topic is but he canceled his weekly golf game to prepare.”

    He is going to announce that ALL Americans will be added to the no-fly list, then EO ban on gun sales to same./s

    • mcnorman says:

      He is going to assure us that we don’t have a problem.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m guessing he’s going to declare the NRA a hate group and put all it’s members on the No Fly List. Or, just lay on his thick Bafflegab where conservatives will scratch their heads and liberals will think he’s still teh awesomest smartest President !!!!!111!

  7. Myiq2xu says:

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  9. DeniseVB says:

    I’ll never get too old to giggle at fart jokes …. 😀

  10. Dora says:

    I love this answer. He didn’t miss a beat. 🙂

  11. DandyTIger says:

    The Daily News proves the gun control side is winning, or something. Probably because #caring.


    • DeniseVB says:

      People who don’t even own guns are joining the NRA. Probably because #PissOffTheLeft 😉

      • Ann says:

        I agree, Denise. I am pretty anti-gun, and am considering asking Hubby to teach me to shoot and how to get a license.

        It is pretty clear to me no gun zones are just places to shoot fish in a barrel for some nut-job. Until all weapons around the world are rounded up and melted down (never gonna happen), no matter how many laws are passed, the bad-guys will never respect those laws – and the good guys will continue to be hurt and killed.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          If all new gun manufacturing/importing was stopped (not just made illegal) and the government collected and destroyed 10 million old guns every year it would take at least 30 years before we would be close to zero guns.

          One problem is that nobody knows how many guns are out there already.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          Then the bad people will use Knives or something. 😡

      • swanspirit says:

        I plan to be one of them 😉 it is only $25.00 for one year 🙂

    • 1539days says:

      Mostly, states have not enacted new gun freedoms. The NRA tried to play nice with background checks years ago. Then they learned that liberals are never happy and said enough.

      I knew a guy who was a big gun fan and voted for Obama twice. Then he finally listened to Obama one month later when he talked about gun control after Sandy Hook. Some people take a long time to learn a lesson unfortunately.

  12. Myiq2xu says:

    • piper says:

      WCPGW – more Americans on the dole – problem being where’s the money coming to pay them for being unemployed.
      So tired of both sides destroying our beautiful country.

  13. piper says:

    Back to stealing this time from Dave over at NQ

  14. piper says:

    TY Dave

  15. piper says:

    I’m on a roll

  16. piper says:

    And this one from K. Marge

  17. lyn says:

    Is Loretta going to prosecute the Stasi bitch?

  18. We need a word for stuff that disappears from news items after the news has been “shaped.” For example, the third person in the San Bernadino attack. Remember that on the day of the shooting, as it was reported that police had killed the husband and wife, they also captured a suspect who fled from the SUV. They qualified this by saying the didn’t know if s/he was associated with the attacks, but s/he was in the car as they fled and were cornered. What happened to that person? Why did it disappear from the headlines and news stories?

  19. Underwhelmed says:


    No words. None.

    Except that if Obama does go for EA on gun control, all I can say is that yes, he wants a civil war. I pray for you all.

    • lyn says:

      Meet the newest member of the NRA.

      • lyn says:

        … sans g-u-n.

      • Underwhelmed says:

        In spirit, absolutely. Your 2nd amendment exists for a reason, it was born out of the way your country was founded. And as Obama and his minions are proving every day, in every way, the only thing that stands between freedom and the oppressive tyranny of a government determined to enslave its people is the ability of the people to back up words with action. Like you guys, I looked at Obama and thought — bad news. And like you guys, I don’t think that even on my most cynical day thought things could ever turn out so badly for your wonderful country.

    • blowme0bama says:

      HA! Pray for Obama and his effete sycophants trying to grab the guns. 😀

  20. lurker says:

    I hear GOA https://www.gunowners.org is better than NRA. Any thoughts?

  21. Jadzia says:

    So the socialist party is fucked: the National Front is winning in MY REGION: a PS stronghold. (My actual town/department probably still went PS, but it’s basically Madison/Eugene/Berkeley, France.) I can’t imagine what’s going to happen in the rest of the country.

    • driguana says:

      This also in from the Besancon region of eastern France. Automatically translates for you. FN gaining there, also.

      • Jadzia says:

        I think that’s LePen country. Good cheese (Comte), too.

      • Jadzia says:

        Interesting that it’s ANOTHER woman candidate there. This is total anecdata (ie, I could be completely wrong compared to the actual statistics), but I feel like I see more women candidates in the right-wing parties than among the Socialists (who of course have to respect the gender-parity rules, but they seem to put the ladies into appropriately girly positions like culture and the environment, leaving the important jobs for the men). I might still be pissed off about how Hollande treated the women in his party after he was elected, though (albeit probably with a strong assist from his then-girlfriend).

  22. Dora says:

  23. lyn says:

    Celebrating snow in Tibet.

  24. Myiq2xu says:

    • leslie says:

      Awesome! what a miracle.

    • gram krakka says:

      Happy for him & his family. And grateful that we live in a country that still allows agressive curative health care treatments for the very elderly. My fear is that in the not too distant future, health care treatment decisions will not be made by local providers, patients & families, but by policies dictated by the federal government and enforced by insurance companies or single payer medicare type insurance.

  25. votermom says:

    Denise has a new open thread up

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