The Peasants Are Revolting


From the NY Fishwrapper:

For Republicans, Mounting Fears of Lasting Split

The Republican Party is facing a historic split over its fundamental principles and identity, as its once powerful establishment grapples with an eruption of class tensions, ethnic resentments and mistrust among working-class conservatives who are demanding a presidential nominee who represents their interests.

At family dinners and New Year’s parties, in conference calls and at private lunches, longtime Republicans are expressing a growing fear that the coming election could be shattering for the party, or reshape it in ways that leave it unrecognizable.

While warring party factions usually reconcile after brutal nomination fights, this race feels different, according to interviews with more than 50 Republican leaders, activists, donors and voters, from both elite circles and the grass roots.

This race feels different because the elites aren’t winning.

Never have so many voters been attracted to Republican candidates like Donald J. Trump and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who are challenging core party beliefs on the economy and national security and new goals like winning over Hispanics through immigration reform. Rank-and-file conservatives, after decades of deferring to party elites, are trying to stage what is effectively a people’s coup by selecting a standard-bearer who is not the preferred candidate of wealthy donors and elected officials.

And many of those traditional power brokers, in turn, are deeply uncomfortable and even hostile to Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz: Between them, the leading candidates do not have the backing of a single senator or governor.

“I haven’t seen this large of a division in my career,” said Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican first elected to Congress in 1982. “You probably have to go back to Ford versus Reagan in 1976. But that was only two people.”

The issues animating grass-roots voters — opposition to immigration, worries about wages and discomfort with America’s fast-changing demographics — are diverging from and at times colliding with the Republican establishment’s interests in free trade, lower taxes, less regulation and openness to immigration.

The fractures could help a Democrat win the White House if Republicans do not ultimately find ways to unite, as one candidate, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, warned last week.

The divide was evident at a recent Greenville, S.C., gathering of bankers and lawyers, reliable Republicans who shared tea and pastries and their growing anxieties about where their party is going. In a meeting room near the wooded shore of Furman Lake, the group of mostly older white men expressed concern that their party was fracturing over free trade, immigration and Wall Street. And they worried that their candidates — mainstream conservatives like Jeb Bush — were losing.

“It’s all really hard to believe that decades of Republican ideas are at risk,” said Barry Wynn, a prominent Bush donor at the meeting.

Notice that neither the authors nor the people they interviewed seemed to think this would be a good thing. So which decades are we talking about here? The Clinton 90’s? The Bush 00’s? The Obama Teens?

The strains on Republicanism are driven home by scenes like the 1,500 people who waited two hours in 10-degree weather on Tuesday night to see Mr. Trump campaign in Claremont, N.H. And the 700 who jammed the student center of an Iowa Christian college the same evening to hear Mr. Cruz. These crowds were full of lunch-bucket conservatives who expressed frustration with the Republican gentry.

“The Republican Party has never done anything for the working man like me, even though we’ve voted Republican for years,” said Leo Martin, a 62-year-old machinist from Newport, N.H., who attended Mr. Trump’s Claremont rally. “This election is the first in my life where we can change what it means to be a Republican.”

There is a word for it when the people overrule the elites and decide how things should be. It’s called “democracy.”

Don’t be surprised when you start hearing about “Trump Democrats”. These will be the white working class voters (racists) who feel that the Democrat party has abandoned them too.

No wonder the elites in both parties are scared.



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82 Responses to The Peasants Are Revolting

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    OMG! I want to frame this!

    Have you ever been listening to Donald Trump speaking, or reading one of his quotes, and found yourself laughing out loud?

    Maybe you think he has a good sense of humor and he says funny stuff. Maybe you think he is so shocking that you laugh out of social horror. Maybe you love how he pokes your political enemies. If you are not a Trump fan, maybe you think you are laughing at him, or laughing out of disgust, or out of certainty he will be dooming himself this time for sure.

    What did I teach you about events that have too many explanations?

    It’s a tell for persuasion. You laugh at Trump because you feel the persuasion, on a subconscious level, and not because anything was especially funny.

    When I learned hypnosis, the instructor taught us that subjects often laugh during an induction. When I asked my laughing subjects why, they would tell me it was because of the funny way I pronounced a word, or something they heard outside, or a funny thought that crossed their minds.

    None of that is true.

    Laughter is a tell for persuasion. A causeless laugh means you got persuaded to the point where it challenged some long-held truth in your mind. The laugh is an automatic reflex in that situation.

    In my experience, about 80% of subjects I have hypnotized have laughed during the process. The skilled hypnotist tells them ahead of time to expect it, transforming it from a distraction to a source of credibility.

    Now imagine my situation when I listen to Trump. I can see all the scaffolding of his technique and yet I still feel the persuasion working in real time, because I am monitoring myself for that. Result: On several occasions Trump has reduced me to a fetal position and uncontrolled laughter.

    I tell myself he has a good sense of humor and great timing. But at the same time I know I could be experiencing an hallucination.

    Start looking for causeless laughs that have too many explanations. When you see it, you’ll laugh, because it will violate your prior sense of reality. And you will also understand why the most persuasive person on the planet was originally labelled a clown. He made people laugh, and they didn’t know why.

    Welcome to my world. You can’t leave.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      This is why Jon Stewart was so effective. Clowns can express uncomfortable truths and speak truth to power.

      OTOH, when JS became a shill for the Obama administration he was no longer speaking truth to power, which is why his ratings and effectiveness declined.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Stewart was more fun in the early years when he went after media and nobody could escape his barbs, then he became a ‘Bot and lost the edge, except to the vile progs.

        As for Trump, I like him because he’s saying things I’ve been screaming at the tv about the past 30 years. I laugh because I think he’s reading my mind 😉

        • Myiq2xu says:

          When you speak the unvarnished truth you better make people laugh, otherwise they will kill you.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          Exactly Denise, just like millions of us. 🙂

          • DeniseVB says:

            Letterman went off the rails too, was sad to lose him. My email addy is still his theater’s address because he saved and renovated the historic Ed Sullivan Theater rather than tear it down when CBS offered him a new sparkly theater in his contract.

    • 1539days says:

      I never laugh at Trump.

    • elliesmom says:

      Mark Steyn has a fun column about attending the Trump rally in Burlington, VT. I think he catches the “fun” of Trump. It made me wish I’d been there.

      • cynic says:

        A fun read, indeed.
        The headline in Friday’s local paper read: “BURLINGTON TRUMPED”. That’s what his fans liked. In the liberal heart of a liberal state, the supporters streaming out of the Flynn Theatre, waving genially to the social-justice doofuses across the way, couldn’t recall a night like it. Not in Vermont.

      • Venus says:

        Derp. I should read all comments first before posting. Especially when I’m so late to the thread.
        Sorry for the repeat below.

    • Venus says:

      Case in point, from Mark Steyn (one of my favs) on the Trump rally in Vermont:

      ~THE SHOW: He’s very good at this. Very good. On the same day as Trump’s speech, Peter Shumlin, the colorless dullard serving as Vermont’s governor, came to the State House in Montpelier to deliver his “State of the State” address. He required two prompters so he could do the Obama swivel-head like a guy with good seats at Wimbledon following the world’s slowest centre-court rally. Two prompters! In the Vermont legislature! And for the same old generic boilerplate you forget as soon as you’ve heard it.

      Trump has no prompters. He walks out, pulls a couple of pieces of folded paper from his pocket, and then starts talking. Somewhere in there is the germ of a stump speech, but it would bore him to do the same poll-tested focus-grouped thing night after night, so he basically riffs on whatever’s on his mind. This can lead to some odd juxtapositions: One minute he’s talking about the Iran deal, the next he detours into how Macy’s stock is in the toilet since they dumped Trump ties. But in a strange way it all hangs together: It’s both a political speech, and a simultaneous running commentary on his own campaign.

      It’s also hilarious. I’ve seen no end of really mediocre shows at the Flynn in the last quarter-century, and I would have to account this the best night’s entertainment I’ve had there with the exception of the great jazz singer Dianne Reeves a few years back. He’s way funnier than half the stand-up acts I’ve seen at the Juste pour rires comedy festival a couple of hours north in Montreal. And I can guarantee that he was funnier than any of the guys trying their hand at Trump Improv night at the Vermont Comedy Club a couple of blocks away. He has a natural comic timing.

      You really should read the whole thing:

  2. DeniseVB says:

    Still waiting for Hillary to make a statement on Cologne …. even from her twitterer person.

  3. Myiq2xu says:

    Just by coincidence, WaPo has a similar article by Michael Gerson:

    Trump’s nomination would rip the heart out of the Republican Party

    Every Republican of the type concerned with winning in November has been asking the question (at least internally): “What if the worst happens?”

    The worst does not mean the nomination of Ted Cruz, in spite of justified fears of political disaster. Cruz is an ideologue with a message perfectly tuned for a relatively small minority of the electorate. Uniquely in American politics, the senator from Texas has made his reputation by being roundly hated by his colleagues — apparently a prerequisite for a certain kind of anti-establishment conservative, but unpromising for an image makeover at his convention.

    Cruz’s nomination would represent the victory of the hard right — religious right and tea party factions — within the Republican coalition. After he loses, the ideological struggles within the GOP would go on.

    No, the worst outcome for the party would be the nomination of Donald Trump. It is impossible to predict where the political contest between Trump and Hillary Clinton would end up. Clinton has manifestly poor political skills, and Trump possesses a serious talent for the low blow. But Trump’s nomination would not be the temporary victory of one of the GOP’s ideological factions. It would involve the replacement of the humane ideal at the center of the party and its history. If Trump were the nominee, the GOP would cease to be.

    Whatever your view of Republican politicians, the aspiration, the self-conception, of the party was set by Abraham Lincoln: human dignity, honored by human freedom and undergirded by certain moral commitments, including compassion and tolerance. Lincoln described the “promise that in due time the weights should be lifted from the shoulders of all men, and that all should have an equal chance.”

    Interestingly, Cruz is rapidly becoming the official Not-Trump candidate. Jeb has fallen and can’t get up, Christie is toast, and Rubio isn’t getting anyone wet.

  4. Myiq2xu says:

    • lizzy says:

      It is difficult to integrate those who refuse to assimilate. They have their Allah; He tells them everyone has to accept their way. It would be a sin to follow secular laws. All prepare to bow and kiss the ground tor Allah or die.

  5. Myiq2xu says:

    The GOPe is between Hell and a hot place.

    1. They want to beat Hillary.

    2. They hate Ted Cruz.

    3. They despise Donald Trump.

    4. All their favored candidates are sucking hind tit.

    5. If they go after Trump and fail, they’re fucked.

    6. If they go after Trump and succeed, they’re fucked.

    7. They can’t go 3rd party against their own nominee.

    8. Even if they could, who would they run?

    • DeniseVB says:

      I can’t believe Hillary sounds dumber than Obama, maybe the ‘bots were right in 2008. Xposted from WHD….

      This woman wants to be POTUS (via MOTUS)? Trump should turn it into a campaign ad if they can find the soundbite 😉

      accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I’m glad you asked! My
      proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because
      of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior
      situations and mind-sets that were too narrowly focused in a manner
      whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture, and we didn’t do
      that, and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s A major

      – Hillary Clinton 11 March 2014

  6. foxyladi14 says:

    I love all the cute pictures of Lily and the others.
    I am sorry I seem to miss them, I do read and see them.
    But I know that commenting on old threads is frowned on.
    So Thanks Klown!!! ❤

  7. jeffhas says:

    “There is a word for it when the people overrule the elites and decide how things should be. It’s called “democracy.”

    I actually got teary-eyed imaging a Democracy again (even if short-lived).

  8. 1539days says:

    The Republican Party has a problem with demography. For at least the last decade, they have accepted a premise that GOP=White and the only way to bring in non-Whites is to be DNC-lite. This started around 2006 when they lost the majority in Congress. The drubbing in 2008 was declared by such geniuses as Chris Matthews to be the beginning of a demographic shift where the Republicans would never have a majority in government again. That lasted about a year and a half.

    The way to make new Republicans is to have good Republicans. Revisionist history says Newt Gingrich lost support of the GOP because he shut down the government and the voters hated the Republicans for it. Actually, he won concessions in that battle and the Republicans continued to have the majority in both houses until 2001 (ending due to a defector in the Senate). But the GOPe hated him and the Democrats trumped up some charges to take away his leadership.

    Big Republican victories (Reagan, 1994 Congress, 2010 and 2014) were due largely to conservative (both socially and fiscally) candidates who weren’t obsessed with demographic outreach. Sadly, the guys who have the money are libertarian or establishment leaning. Trump is able to corner the market on his 8 month old strongly held beliefs because he doesn’t need the money. Personally, I don’t like the way he constantly Alphas the media or owns the conversation or hypnotizes the audience. It’s trickery and most natural for a dictator instead of a leader.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I like Trump for the reason he doesn’t need the money. He’s right you know, nobody owns him. It’s like #War. Only bloodless. 😉

      • 1539days says:

        So, the dictator tactics are cool?

        • DeniseVB says:

          I’ll take Trump Dictator over Obama Dicktator 😉

          • piper says:

            not so fast – the devil you don’t know may be much worse than the devil you know.

          • Myiq2xu says:

            I’m not really worried about Trump as dictator. He doesn’t have followers who are poised to take over Congress. Electing Trump may actually motivate Congress to reassert their constitutional prerogatives.

          • lizzy says:

            I see Trump as the only candidate who has the position to challenge the dictatorship of the media. Without the media Obama would still be the state senator in Illinois.

          • votermom says:

            If Trump is in the WH impeachment will suddenly be on the table.

          • Somebody says:

            Klown is 100% correct, should Trump end up in the WH Congress will suddenly remember what their job is. A Trump presidency would probably reign in a lot of executive overreach that has been going on with presidents from both parties.
            We’d probably also see a lot more cooperation between the D’s and the R’s in Congress because they will all be trying to protect their graft.

        • Somebody says:

          Odd, if I remember correctly you liked it when Newt didn’t take shit off the media and fought back……so why is it you don’t like that trait in Trump?

          • 1539days says:

            Trump’s not fighting back. He’s on the offensive. He’s also sucking up all the oxygen in the race. For Trump, the media, other Republicans who dare to run for president and the voters who don’t love him are all the same and must be insulted.

      • piper says:

        How much is hard cash and how much is building/property which he wouldn’t want to liquify or can easily? Ask yourself why the media is pushing trump by giving him so much free time in coverage?

        • Somebody says:

          Piper I don’t see any media outlet pushing Trump. I see lots of talking heads taking shots at Trump because they all think THEY are the smartest and THEY are the ones that will bring Trump down. I see Trump playing the media, saying outlandish things that he knows will get air time because the elite talking heads will pontificate about how whatever it is he said is THE thing that will finally bring him down.

          The coverage Trump gets is completely and totally different from the coverage Obama got. Obama’s coverage was mostly fawning, Trump’s has been anything but. Who among the media has leg tingles??? Who is hot for Trump? Who is weeping at the prospect of Trump in the oval office? I’ve seen none of that.

    • jeffhas says:

      “Personally, I don’t like the way he cosntantly Alphas the media or owns the conversation or hypnotizes the audience. It’s trickery and most natural for a dictator instead of a leader.”

      This is my issue as well, along with wondering if he will replace the old cronies with new cronies from the Billionaire’s Boy’s Club…

      BUT… I’d like to think the grandiosity of the moment of being elected President and sworn in, etc., the history of George Washington showing what a Democracy ‘could’ be (a uniquely Anerican legacy for all time) will temper him to stop the hypnotism (I really don’t think he has any clue he’s hypnotizing people, I think it is just a natural skill he developed – his own evolution) and get down to the country’s business….

      Of the candidates, I’m beginning to see he is probably the best of the choices, hoping that he can turn this thing around – I have less confidence in every other option, they are all bought and paid for.

      … And at the very least, his winning will forever change the dynamic of what a politician is supposed to be or can be – that is a refreshing outcome all on it’s own.

      I also think people who have been convinced of something become far angrier when they find out they’ve been conned then if you had just lied and stole their dignity early on…. 4 years is a long time to hold people in a hypnotic trance, but a very short time destroy a society – even Obama really needed that second term…. So, hopefully the hypnotized will be aware the when the second term comes around – unless he has been wildly successful, in which case who cares if we’ve been hypnotized, America is Great again!!!

      • 1539days says:

        I prefer the professional politician, as long as they don’t make it a career. If Trump became president, he would either have a group of advisers who would actually be in charge or he would hire a bunch of people and not listen to them at all. Obama is currently doing the latter.

    • piper says:

      ‘Personally, I don’t like the way he constantly Alphas the media or owns the conversation or hypnotizes the audience. It’s trickery and most natural for a dictator instead of a leader.’

      Thank you for saying that – smh that so many people are following a slick con man again.

      • 1539days says:

        There’s a chance I’ll get some heat for this. My position is that I thought Trump was a jerk for more than a decade before he ran for president.

        • Somebody says:

          Why would you catch heat for that?? Personally I’ve never been a Trump fan either, he’s always struck me as very arrogant. I admit to enjoying the exploding heads this election cycle, kind of like driving by a bad wreck and rubber necking.

          Personal feelings for Trump aside, I do like his stance on immigration. Is he sincere?? Who knows, if he isn’t then that would make him just like the rest of the politicians.

  9. votermom says:

    Mark Steyn went to the Trump rally in Burlington.
    His report is fun to read

  10. Myiq2xu says:

    • Somebody says:

      What a douche. He wanted to woo “Death To America” Khameini. He believes his own bullshit, he really thinks he can talk anybody into anything, smh.

  11. driguana says:

    Love this one, too. Does “I will lead the third party by the lake…..” sound a bit prophetic????

  12. Underwhelmed says:

    People whinged about Patton’s tone and lack of polish too. We’d all have been screwed if he’d listened, or they’d won the argument.

    • swanspirit says:

      And that really is a big part of the problem isn’t it? Trump fit in with hoi polloi because he has wealth, but they really don’t want to rub elbows with him because he just doesn’t meet their standards, now that he is running for office.
      The self appointed elitists that pretend they are on the side of the peasants, find them ” revolting ” on an everyday basis, and don’t want them showing up and spoiling the party, because they weren’t on the guest list.

      • Diogenes says:

        You might want to look up the meaning of “hoi polloi.”

      • Underwhelmed says:

        As much as I deplore the carnage of the French Revolution, it’s possible these days to understand the impetus for such acts.

      • swanspirit says:

        Yeah it was late and I was typing on my kindle in bed right before I fell asleep. Sorry for the confusion, I knew what I meant; those who consider themselves far above the hoi polloi .

  13. Underwhelmed says:

    Okay I give up. I have to ask. What is SMH?

  14. Dora says:

    Well, I just checked my Powerball numbers and I didn’t win a darn thing! So, who wants to be a billionaire anyway? 🙂 I hope one of you guys had better luck.

    • Somebody says:

      Sorry Dora. I haven’t checked mine, but I seriously doubt I won anything either considering the odds are overwhelming against it. Now if we were talking those kind of odds of something bad happening, yep I’d be the one, already been there done that.

  15. Dora says:

    • Underwhelmed says:

      I am really struggling with the number of people on social media/regular media who are attacking anyone who dares to point out that these attacks were entirely foreseeable, and an inevitable result of the way the incoming hordes were allowed in without any kind of processing or assessment. They have imported tens of thousands of men from cultures where the rape of women and children without a second’s thought is status quo. What did they think was going to happen? And in what sane world do you then attempt to silence the people who are now in danger? And then pat yourself on the back for being so tolerant and anti-racist?

  16. Dora says:

    Clinton’s Hot Water Getting Warmer – Classified Emails In The Wrong Places And One That Proves She’s Lying

  17. driguana says:

    With all that was going on yesterday in the news, with the lottery and in the sports world, I’ve just gotten around to catching up on this site. And once again have enjoyed all of the posts and all of the delicious sarcasm and comments!!! So to wrap up my own thinking from yesterday…

    Having been born and raised in Cincinnati and grown up in Pittsburgh, yesterday’s NFL game promised to be interesting for me. I was disappointed in the savagery and bitterness that ensued. It may have been the closest thing to a gladiatorial combat that we have witnessed in our society (MMA aside).

    Yes, I won money in the Powerball lottery! $4. Enough for a ticket in the $1.3 billion up-coming drawing. And, yes, Klown, I do think God wants me to win this time and so I am only using my $4 to buy one ticket.

    On the arrogance of Donald Trump. When Obama was nominated as the Democrat Party nominee and elected president in 2008, I was living in Santa Fe, NM, a lovely city that is probably 99.99% Democrat but, ironically, about 55% conservative, Hispanic Catholic…go figure. Really, they are conservative people in practice, wearing the political clothing of progressives. I remember watching these events and thinking what an arrogant person Obama was (is). His demeanor, his speech, his attitude…everything about him screamed, to me, of extreme arrogance, with absolutely no vetting of any kind of any of his history or so-called accomplishments. I clocked him one time saying “I” 13 times in one minute! There is a difference between arrogance and confidence. If you listen carefully to Trump, he seems to exude more confidence than arrogance…in my opinion.

    Having recently been in Cologne, Germany, my then impression of it’s beauty, splendor and cultural diversity has been shattered by the recent sexual assault events. When I was there I kept thinking about how much Cologne reminded me of Pittsburgh. Hmmmm….the savagery is seeping into society everywhere, I guess.

    Oh, well….it’s Sunday and Mickey Dolenz of The Monkees and Felix Cavaliere of The Young Rascals are playing in town this afternoon. Life can’t be all bad.

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