It’s Groundhog Day!

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  1. Myiq2xu says:


    • taw46 says:

      I listened to some of his speech last night, he was a good ole “Comeback Kid”. And, as you predicted, someone on FOX said there were two winners, Rubio and Cruz, and one loser, Trump.

    • Somebody says:

      The establishment and also the media is coalescing around Rubio. Quite frankly I’m surprised it took them this long, but they wanted to hang onto Yeb! I would imagine you’ll begin to see the other establishment candidates leave the race so everyone can rally behind Rubio. A few of the establishment candidates may stay in to play attack dog, but they’ll gracefully bow out soon enough.

      Rubio is 100% bought and paid for. Rubio is Obama, his loyalties will go to the highest bidder. He’s a slick talker with no compunction whatsoever about lying his ass off.

      In the coming days we will hear how Rubio has the big mo going into NH. Cruz’s win will be ignored or chalked up to the evangelicals, his ground game and dirty tricks. The narrative will be that Trump is all bark and no bite. Our betters in the media knew all along that the morons that show up at his rallies won’t take the time to vote, he’s a freak show, an outlet for bitter clingers, blah, blah.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        A year ago the media told us that Hillary and Jeb were inevitable.

        • Somebody says:

          The media is trying their best to control this election as they have in years past. Don’t think for a minute the late polls showing Trump ahead and a possible Rubio surge were coincidence, you can make a poll say whatever you want. This way the narrative is Trump lost, he’s got no game. Cruz only won because crazy evangelicals, ground game and dirty tricks……..but Marco he’s the real deal, our messiah is emerging all hail the elfen eared, lying Cuban.

    • 49erDweet says:

      It must really be frustrating to be a media type in the US today, knowing exactly who and what’s needed to solve all the world’s problems, but being ignored by idiot voters at every turn. If only there weren’t elections.

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  3. DeniseVB says:

    Interesting video, they should just get rid of the caucus system it looks like such a clusterf**k.

  4. Myiq2xu says:

    Behold Sticker Boy:

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  8. DeniseVB says:

    Ben Carson on Fox now discussing the Cruz thing and is he pissed !

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  12. dm says:

    My concern this morning isn’t that Cruz played dirty and Trump “lost”. As to Cruz, the caucus system is as referenced above a clusterfuck…a normal process means the voter knows what they are doing (more or less) when they walk in, there is no one there allowed to try to influence them. Trump “lost” by 1 delegate – really? The media is just playing on perception. What worries me is that the Plan B guy (rubio) had such a strong showing and that the crazy old white dude nearly tied Hillary. I believe if Bernie manages to win this thing, we will all literally “feel the Bern” and not in a good way. Him winning would be the most catastrophic outcome in my opinion.

  13. Dora says:

    • dm says:

      An example of seriously stoopid voters…what, no one had a smart phone to google that shit with??? Honestly, how many times have we all walked into that voting booth and knew we were casting a vote for the loser…again, caucuses are discriminatory and unamerican.

      • taw46 says:

        Supposedly, all the media outlets were reporting he was leaving the campaign, so if they had googled, that is what they would have seen. But, unless I saw it come from his official campaign, I would have ignored it. So yes, stupid.

    • elliesmom says:

      When I was doing GOTV phoning for Hillary during the South Dakota primaries, at least half of the people I talked to told me Hillary had conceded the nomination to Obama that morning. This is a pretty standard dirty trick.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I’m happy with the top 3, it’s just that they promised no dirty tricks like the Democrats pull, we’re better than that. Oh, tell me more Sen. Cruz 😉 Carson did announce he was taking a couple of days off after Iowa to rest up before NH, seems the media and Cruz campaign both misunderstood that as dropping out.

  14. Somebody says:

    I think one of the single biggest take aways from Iowa is that in fly over country; 91% of voters under the age of 30 support a socialist.

    So what is going on here? Is this the fruits of the likes of Bill Ayers labor?? Taking over our educational systems?? Does the younger generation not understand what socialism is? Is it the result of huge college tuition rates, wage depression, lack of opportunity and massive immigration both legal and illegal??? Is it because Hillary just doesn’t click with the younger crowd or they’re too young to remember Bill or they see her as a callous liar???

    What is going on with the younger generation?? First they give us Obama and now possibly Sanders???

    My son is 31 and says most of his friends are on the Sanders train as they were the Obama train. My 29 year daughter says the same. They both tell me most of their friends are riddled with debt from student loans. None of these kids have worthless degrees either, most have some kind of STEM degree. My older kids were honor student, nerdy types. Their friends are mostly from solid middle class, small town backgrounds not the type you’d think would run toward a socialist. My son says none of his generation thinks they will do as well as their parents, let alone better. Housing, food, cars, all of the prices continue to go up, up, up…….but their wages are either flat or in many cases have actually fallen. Most live in constant fear of being replaced by cheaper foreign labor, which is reasonable since they interact constantly with foreigners that replaced previous co-workers…….they’re all just wondering when it will be their turn to get replaced.

    My kids also tell me that their friends don’t view socialism or even communism in any kind of a bad light. They didn’t learn anything about it in school except how wonderful parts of Europe are.

    Anyway I was personally shocked to see that 91% statistic. I knew there was a lot of desperation out there in the younger generation, but I guess I had no idea how much.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      We need to raise the voting age to 40

      • taw46 says:

        That won’t work. I have two family members who are nearing 70 yrs, and they are fine with Bernie.

        • Somebody says:

          The 70 year olds are just hippies that never grew up. I’d venture to guess a poll of senior citizens wouldn’t yield much support for Sanders, your family members are outliers.

          The younger generation though, this is a trend and we need to ask ourselves why. We need to figure this shit out because they’ll soon overtake us in numbers.

          My kids are NOT on the Bernie train, nor were they on the Obama train but in their circles they are the outliers.

          • taw46 says:

            But the thing is, they were never hippies. Married couple, both serious and responsible citizens, intelligent, did well professionally. They were for Hillary in 2008, felt the same way we did about Obama. But then we parted ways, they decided to stay with the Dems. They watch MSNBC constantly and never question what is said, never research issues. And they have many friends in the same age group who feel the same way, would vote for Bernie. How could this happen?

            I agree that the more serious problem is with the younger generation and all the reasons you gave as to why this is happening. I do not have children/grandchildren in school. But from what I read, not much is taught about our history, our form of government compared to others, etc. is that true?

    • dm says:

      Yup, pretty scary all the way around. Much as I hate Clinton, Bernie poses the larger threat.

    • elliesmom says:

      My take from the Democratic results in Iowa last night is the Dems have a serious age gap. Under 40 solidly for Sanders, and over 40 solidly for Clinton. I haven’t seen the age breakdowns for the Republicans, but anecdotal evidence says if there’s an age gap, it’s not nearly as pronounced. Since most of the young Republicans have gone through the same school systems as the young Democrats, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s not so much our educational system, as a difference in what they perceive the role of government to be. If you think it’s the government’s job to provide you with a guaranteed education, a job, and a comfortable standard of living, and you are deeply in debt for your education, can’t find a job or buy a half-decent car, and still live with your parents, then the candidate who says it’s not your fault, and I’m going to see you get all of those things gets your vote. Hillary represents the status quo. I don’t really see the Feel the Bern kids seeing Sanders as a socialist as much as he’s going to be their savior. It’s not the means to get where they want to be that counts. If Sanders was a rabid capitalist and was making the same promises, they’d still be on board. The young people who have been brought up to believe making your way in life is your own responsibility aren’t Democrats. While schools can distort the way they teach history and color how kids feel about this country, work ethic and responsibility are mostly taught at home.

      • taw46 says:

        I was brought up that way, as was everyone in my small, Southern town (Ds and R’s). The schools taught that as well. So much has changed over the years, especially the last seven.

      • Somebody says:

        That is true but the utter trash that is history in our public schools needs to go. It’s full of how evil the US is, lots of self loathing, with side bars of little FYI…..Sweden is damn near utopia or the UK, France anywhere but the US. Pearl Harbor was a communication mix up and we had no right to drop the bomb. Hitler was bad, but we were worse with fire bombings, etc. The US is responsible for lots of bad things, not so much for any good things and our country was founded by a bunch of rich assholes that abused slaves. Oh and last but not least Islam is wonderful and Sharia law liberates women.

        I could go on and on citing excerpt after excerpt from actual public text books. What is even more amazing is that since I home schooled my youngest, I’ve purchased text books from several different states so this isn’t an indictment on just Florida schools

        As for kids taking responsibility for themselves, yes that is taught at home or at least should be. I certainly taught my kids the world didn’t owe them jack, but I also know a lot of neighbors did too and their kids are struggling and looking for an answer and they somehow think they’ve found it in Bernie Sanders.

        These kids are disillusioned and struggling…….OK both are normal in your younger years, but it goes beyond the normal. I think it was you EM that brought up malaise recently. Malaise is perfect for where we are as a country right now, it fits as well as it did in the late 70’s. However, in the late 70’s we embraced our founding principles so to speak by electing Ronald Reagan. It’s quite possible this time we might reject them this time and elect a socialist……..why?? Is it worse this time around?? Is it because the age tilt of the younger generation is much younger than the boomers were in the late 70’s?

        Maybe it’s just me, but I’m sensing something different.

        • elliesmom says:

          I don’t disagree the kids are being taught a very negative view of our country’s history. They might also be being taught a more rosy picture of life in Scandinavia than the reality is. My point is if there were good jobs waiting for them, and colleges weren’t gouging them, they wouldn’t be drawn to supporting socialism. There are teachers who teach socialism is the way to go, and they have been teaching that for the last 50 years at least. But when you have access to college without school loans that are higher than the average mortgage payment and a good job with decent pay and benefits, the appeal for government to takeover half your life and wages just isn’t as strong. Its appeal to young people today is not ideological. For some of them it’s the only path they see to survival because they’ve been taught it’s the government’s responsibility to take care of them. While they might have that idea reinforced in school, it mostly doesn’t come from there. If anything, they’re being taught our government is evil

          What it comes down to is the difference between offering someone a mediocre standard of living and a lifetime of lying around doing nothing or a good job with the possibility of a high standard living. Some people will always choose the former. Some people will always bet on the latter. But when there’s less chance of the latter paying off, it’s the difference between work ethic and personal responsibility and having little or none or either that tips the balance. I’ve been trolling the Feel the Bern kids for awhile. His appeal is that “he’s the only one who knows how hard our lives are right now”. They believe he’s their FDR.

          • 49erDweet says:

            The dichotomy reaches beyond the students. We have a government that systematically, in the name of “saving humanity”, kills industries without comprehending they’re also killing the jobs those students will need to fulfill their lives. It’s a ” lose-lose” that’s celebrated as if it were a victory. Almost as if it’s a plan, is something…..

          • 49erDweet says:

            …or something.

          • 1539days says:

            Socialism is a fantasy. The worse reality is, the better it sounds.

            It’s still bullshit, though.

  15. Myiq2xu says:

    Now that Cruz is officially the front runner (until next week anyway) the media will try to take him down to make room for Rubio.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    These are the current headlines on Drudge, pretty much sums up the night 😀

    MICROSOFT App used to tally votes falls short…
    Hillary wins 6 precincts — by coin tosses…
    Probability: 1 in 64…
    Sanders wants raw vote count released…
    Rally chant: ‘She’s a liar!’…
    Virtual tie raises doubts: Can she close deal?
    TRUMP: ‘Honored’ With Second-Place…
    RUBIO: This Is Night They Said Would Never Happen…
    Marco emerges as champion of battered establishment…
    DIRTY: Carson Accuses Cruz Camp of Foul Play; Told Voters Carson Was Dropping Out…
    Jeb Spends $2,884 Per Vote…
    NOW… ON TO NH!

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  18. DandyTIger says:

    Even better election than I thought. Dirty tricks, lying, cheating, oh my. And it’s only the first state. I’m going to need more popcorn.

    • DandyTIger says:

      This week the Trump campaign sent my 15-year-old kid, who lives in New Hampshire, a reminder to make sure he caucuses in Iowa.

      Trump basically has zero organization and ground game. He can still go pretty far without one, but he can’t win. Time to put up or shut up.

      • jeffhas says:

        I do worry he has no ground game – I was slightly heartened when I heard he hired ‘so & so insider’ to handle this in Iowa or ‘so & so insider’ to handle that in Iowa… But now I’m not so certain.

        Of course 24% second place showing for no ground game would seem pretty amazing…

        I dunno…

        • Somebody says:

          It shows the level of complete discontent with the two parties most likely. Trump can only go so far with his name recognition and antics. He needs to focus in on his policies, put together an organization and get serious. He’s doing well in NH and it’s really too late to put much together there, but he needs to be putting teams together in SC, NV and super Tuesday states pronto.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      Hillary, by contrast, is in trouble not because she’s a sleazy, corrupt, cronyist, money-laundering, Saud-kissing liar. Democrats have a strong stomach and boundless tolerance for all of that and wouldn’t care were it not for the fact that she’s a dud and a bore. A “Hillary rally” is a contradiction in terms: the thin, vetted crowd leave more demoralized and depressed than when they went in. To vote for Bernie is to be part of a romance, as it was with Obama. To vote for Hillary is to validate the Clintons’ indestructible sense of their own indispensability – and nothing else. Hillary is a wooden charmless stiff who supposedly has enough money to be carefully managed across the finish line. But that requires Democratic electors to agree to be managed, too, and the Sanders surge is a strong sign that, while they’re relaxed about voting for an unprincipled arrogant phony marinated in ever more malodorous and toxic corruption, they draw the line at such a tedious and charisma-free specimen thereof.

      All of that was fully in evidence at last night’s rally. The only personable Clinton stood behind Hillary looking like an emaciated wraith of the Slick Willie of yore. Decades of interns appear to have literally sucked all the life out of him, leaving only (one presumes from friend Epstein’s Lolita Express flight records) his distinguishing characteristics with any flicker of vitality. Judging from her brief but disastrous intervention in New Hampshire the other week, young Chelsea appears to have inherited her mother’s warmth and personal touch. That left Hillary barking across the midnight hour like a malign Speak-Your-Weight Machine with a jammed quarter.

  19. DandyTIger says:

    Looks like the media is in full force to make it Hillary vs. Bush. Er., Rubio… same thing. Establishment vs. establishment. Good god people, have some backbone. Try something else for a change.

  20. Dora says:

    CRUZ MISSILE: TN bills would allow only ‘natural born citizens’ on ballot | The American Mirror

  21. Venus says:

    Scott Adams doesn’t think there was any fraud going on in Iowa:

    Adams has a fun take as always.

    As I posted there, People building the narrative around the poll numbers to claim Trump “under performed” or lost (and there are plenty of those status quo morons around) are forgetting the Margin of Error in those polls. The Selzer poll has a MOE of +/- 4, so 28 for Trump with a 4 point margin of error means he should receive anywhere from 24 to 32% on election night. Likewise, Cruz at 23 means he would receive anywhere from 27 to 19 %. So, the polls were consistent with the results when MOE is taken into account.

    The only one for whom the polls were completely wrong for were Rubio — who out performed almost 4x the margin of error (16%). Not that that means there was fraud going on in Iowa. 😉

    • DandyTIger says:

      Here’s some of it:

      And if I were a GOP establishment person who just wanted to keep the military-industrial machine intact, I would have that motive as well.

      I’m not saying the Republican caucus in Iowa was rigged. All I’m saying is that the result looks exactly like it was rigged, and the people who had the opportunity had the best motive in the history of all motives. You might say they had the mother of all motives and a few aunts of motives as well.

      As I was having these thoughts last night, some folks on Twitter mentioned that Republicans were using a new Microsoft app to tally results. Apparently that system was a bit buggy. Microsoft provided the system for free.

      Oh, and Microsoft is Rubio’s biggest donor.

  22. Venus says:

    Comment from the Sarah Palin site:

    If you would have told Donald Trump that he would get close to 46,000 votes in Iowa, exceeding the record set by Mike Huckabee eight years ago, he would have taken those numbers immediately. His problem tonight was that Ted Cruz had an absolutely amazing performance. Trump at least proved his support was real but he was just beaten by a someone who was a significantly better fit for Iowa. As you can guess, the media is gushing over Rubio’s performance but the fact that he could not get to Romney’s percentage, even with Bush/Kasich/Christie as complete non-factors in Iowa and even though he’s a much more evangelical friendly establishment candidate, is telling.
    Trump held his own with women voters and voters with college degrees. The Quinnipiac poll that was released yesterday showed him at 21% with voters with college degrees and 23% with women voters and he finished, according to the final entrance polls, with 21% with voters with college degrees and 24% with women voters. Trump’s problem was that it appears he lost his base of male voters and voters without college degrees to Cruz and Rubio. The numbers suggest that he lost somewhat conservative male evangelical voters without college degrees at the last minute and that accounted for the difference between him and Cruz.
    In terms of the Governor’s impact, Trump won West Iowa, the region where the Governor has been the strongest and where Steve King’s congressional district in Iowa is located. Cruz had a surprisingly strong performance in the larger metropolitan areas of Iowa.
    On to New Hampshire.”

  23. Dora says:

    Don’t know what this is about.

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  26. DeniseVB says:

    On to NH … wait til DJT gets word of the Cruz missile to Carson, had those voters voted for Carson, would it have been the difference between 1st and 2nd ?

  27. DeniseVB says:

    Don Surber: Seems the Tea Party was right about Obamacare, it’s tanking now.

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  30. Dora says:

    Not Good Enough! Give Dr. Carson Back The Votes That Were Stolen!!!

    • swanspirit says:

      He doesn’t want Carsonto swing his voters to Trump. What a slime Cruz has turned out to be. I hope Carson doesn’t fall for it. Cruz would happily stick another knife in his back if need be.

    • lyn says:

      What a scumbag. Cruz is lower than Obama.

      • dm says:

        While I don’t personally find any of the dirty tricks employed to be desirable traits, I’m a little confused. If, as was suggested earlier, the media was also reporting this “rumor”, I don’t see this as a nefarious plan – just a rumor that was used to full advantage. And where were Carson’s people? Did he not have anyone at these sites disputing this? How exactly are these “votes” – I use this term lightly because I really despise the caucus system and don’t consider them “votes” – supposed to be returned to Dr. Carson?

        Again, I think some people are getting their knickers in a twist over something that is not the most disturbing thing that happened last night – Rubio’s and Sanders showing are the most disconcerting.

        All of the above is, of course, just my opinion. I guess for some, a Trump victory is everything. He has 1 less delegate, and while Cruz is my top pick, I honestly don’t expect him to play well in the rest of the primaries. Trump definitely has the advantage.

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