Scott Adams’ Master Persuader Filter Thesis (NOW with more detail!)

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Iowa-schmyowa. I wouldn’t count Donald Trump out just yet. (Or Bernie for that matter. Bernie closed a 50-point polling gap in half a year.) Trump is down one delegate to Cruz after the dust settled on the caucuses. Despite the media’s push to write yet another Trump obituary, he’s actually well-positioned to keep on winning. Keep in mind that I’m no Trump fan and I don’t have a dog in the 2016 race. This is the suckiest presidential election I’ve ever seen, for the record.

Now, Dilbert creator Scott Adams has been writing about the Trump campaign using the Master Persuader Filter (MPF) for a while. Lots of us have been reading his stuff, and it’s pretty compelling. But Adams ain’t a politico; this is a new game for him, and it shows.

Adams has written tens of thousands of words, without saying much at all. He wants you to believe that Trump is a genius marketer and that he can win an election for president using his marketing skills. Adams says Trump can entertain you, like a movie, right into the White House. He likes to say he saw it, and you will too, once he explains. But then he offers some pretty shaky observations most of the time.

Example: Look at this odd word!!! Have you EVER seen GAMBIT used to describe an election tactic before?

Answer: Fuck yes. See Obama 2008…Chess has about 500 possible gambits, bro. Politics has more. #IJS

But this is not a critique of Scott Adams’ political blogging skills, which clearly need to a little polish. It’s about Trump and exactly how he is using his marketing skills to refute every prediction the media throws at him.

The Problem: Trump had high unfavorability ratings, just like Hillary Clinton.

The Solution: Fight the media, which had and has lower favorability ratings than Trump  or Clinton. Trump’s numbers have improved significantly since June; Hillary’s and the media’s haven’t budged.

Trump walked into the contest with a poll showing only 16 percent of Republicans viewed him favorably while 65 percent viewed him unfavorably.

But when Trump touched off controversy, his favorability skyrocketed, and by mid-July that same ABC/Washington Post poll found that 57 percent of Republicans viewed him favorably.

Note that’s a jump from 16% to 57%, over 40 points, in just a month. It’s gone up since then, standing at 68% by late January 2016. Yes, his national numbers compete with Hillary Clinton’s national unfavorable, but he has a much greater party share than she does. He’s got the GOP sewn up; the converse is not true for Clinton. She needs independents much more than he does.

Trump only needs 5o.001% of voters, unless Bloomberg or another credible third party candidate jumps in. Then he’ll need less.

The Problem: FOX News is Unfair and Unbalanced.

The Solution: Pick a fight with one of the most fair and balanced (and aggressive) reporters there, then use the argument as a stand-your-ground moment that can double as a campaign event. Still get covered plenty by FOX News.

Do I need to even explain this? You are all familiar with the constant bitching by vile progs about FOX News. You are all well aware of the slap-fight Trump had with Megyn Kelly. And I dare say you all are already aware that he won that stand off when he refused to attend the debate. He drew 2.7 million viewers away from the debate, and had every single inch of other media covering him for 48 hours surrounding the debate. He even managed to make FOX sympathetic to the left for a minute, a chit he’s sure to call in later.

The Problem: The GOP is unpopular. The GOP can’t win elections. The GOP needs to win this race to stay viable and forestall Democratic dominance for a generation.

The Solution: The GOP doesn’t like Trump. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. This works with some factions of Republicans and Democrats alike with regard to Trump.

Remember that he had a pop cultural edge to start with due to his reality TV show and his brand. He’s already captured a chunk of low-information voters (including a lot of young people who don’t have political intelligence yet) and more will come his way as the nation begins to tune in. Hillary is never gonna get the hardest-core Bernie supporters because in their hearts, the love of Bernie is driven by a real aversion of Hillary. This is the “black seeds” theory of what’s driving millennial support down for her. These children aren’t growing up any time soon, and they aren’t supporting Hillary. Ever. You can count them out. Trump knows this and that’s why he keeps bringing up Bill Clinton’s dalliances.

The Problem: Populism is running rampant on both sides of the 2 party system, escalating the chances of pitchforks and wealth transfers.

The Solution: Run an insider of the 1%, preferably the loudest, richest guy you can find, to take the populist wind out of these threatening sails.

I think most of you are astute enough students of history to understand this dynamic, but for those who aren’t, let me just drop a name: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You know what FDR did before he won election during the Great Depression? He worked for Wall Street. Afterwards he brokered a deal with the citizens of the United States. The deal was this: If you’ll back off the anger, I’ll have the government pay you some money when you get old. This is the same deal Wall Streeters always make. They always promise a lot, some day, if you give them their way now. The rich always find a way. Always.

So now it’s all eyes on New Hampshire. Let’s see what Trump can do there. This primary season ain’t over by a long shot, and while I don’t give two shits personally, I think Trump is in it to win it.

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245 Responses to Scott Adams’ Master Persuader Filter Thesis (NOW with more detail!)

  1. dm says:

    Great post – especially for someone recovering from the flu. Thanks.

  2. Oh, hey! This is my 200th TCH post.🙂

  3. swanspirit says:

    Congratulations on #200 absolutely fantabulous post!

  4. DeniseVB says:

    After 7 years of the Obama/Clinton/Kerry Foreign Policy by Tickle Feather, this is what I’m craving:

    “If we are attacked, somebody attacks us, wouldn’t you rather have Trump as president if we’re attacked?” he asked the crowd.

    “We’ll beat the sh** out of them. Anybody attacks us,” Trump said.

    Yeah, make America a Badass Again😉

    • votermom says:

      I would like that. I want America to be the biggest, craziest, meanest badass on the block.

    • Constance says:

      Me too! I hate the whiney assed whimp identity and behavior the USA gets when we have a liberal in the Presidency.
      However I do like the way Obama devotes time and resources to droning terrorists. He manages to take some of them out without transferring billions and billions to the military industrial complex cronies.

  5. leslie says:

    Congrats on post #200 ! And what a post it is!!

  6. Dora says:

    Just because I like this photo. 🙂

    • DeniseVB says:

      This isn’t JFK’s Democratic Party anymore😦

    • taw46 says:

      The donkey has now become an ass.

    • leslie says:

      Interesting someone would post this photo today. About 2:00 this morning, I was picking up a neighbor from the ER and a report was on the news comparing Rubio to JFK. It was a CBS news item, not just a local thing. I was pretty annoyed. Was JFK as slick as Rubio? Maybe, but I know that seeing/hearing Rubio on teevee elevates my bp. Maybe I’d feel the same way about JFK if he had lived. But he didn’t and I’m insulted that he and Rubio are being compared to one another. And maybe I’m simply showing my past brainwashed thinking.

      • taw46 says:

        Back in 2008, Obama was JFK. Now Rubio. Hmmm.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        Every scandal gets compared to Watergate and every young politician gets compared to JFK. With luck the millennials will knock that shit off.

      • elliesmom says:

        Old Joe was determined one of his sons would be POTUS and did just about anything he could to make it happen. I think the word “slick” would probably be more attached to Dad, but John learned from his dad. Biographies of Rose Kennedy are sometimes a better window into their world than things written about JFK. The whole “Camelot” thing was PR to elevate the Kennedys to American royalty status. There are a lot of things about Kennedy that became irrelevant to a lot of people when he was assassinated. As a young crusader I was horrified to find out the Republicans had pushed for the ERA, and Kennedy was the one to quash it after making promises to women in his campaign. I think a comparison between Kennedy and Obama is fair on some levels. People do project onto JFK what they hoped his presidency would be. I don’t know whether a comparison to Rubio is fair or not.

        • Constance says:

          I don’t think a Republican can ever attain the God/Savior like qualities that Democrat media attach to Democrat politicians. The thing is most Republicans have a religion or they have thought out agnostic beliefs. They aren’t looking for a Savior or for God in politics. Democrats are largely looking for a God replacement or all powerful parent replacement so the religious and/or fable narratives work for most Democrats. Republicans are more looking for a diligent executive who understands the concept of “common good” in a politician.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          Chicago politics are what got JFK the presidency. Old Jack bought the election. Voter fraud at its best and even then it was a very close call.

          Camelot. I do not think the idiots of the press understand what that means. The King is an indecisive wimp who lets his wife and her BFF run amuck casing havoc and dissent and is eventually done in by the offspring of an incestuous relationship.

    • Dora says:

      I actually remember seeing that photo in my Dad’s newspaper. In 1960, I knew nothing about politics, but I knew that I was in love with that man.

      The Saturday before the election, he came to the Wantagh Train Station to make a speech. My Dad drove my Mother, my friend and me to the station to see him. We arrived 2 hours early because we knew it would be mobbed. It began to rain and people started leaving the area. It rained harder and when my parents went home, my friend and I refused to leave. We wanted to see JFK.

      He was very late and by the time he arrived we had been waiting for more than 3 hours and were soaking wet. Kennedy seemed quite annoyed to find only a handful of teenagers waiting for him and spoke for less than 5 minutes. Nevertheless, my friend and I both got to say hello to him and shake his hand and that is a day I’ll never forget.

      It’s such a nice memory. Those were the days. 🙂

      • taw46 says:

        What a nice story, Dora.

      • lyn says:

        What a great memory, Dora. ❤

      • Dora says:

        Thanks. Yes, it is a good memory. I’m just sorry I wasn’t able to get a picture because of the rain.

        A few years later, in 1964, Robert Kennedy came to Long Island to campaign too. He was running for the senate. That was a sunny day, so I not only shook his hand, but I also took several pictures. I still wasn’t old enough to vote though, so I never did get to vote for a Kennedy. 🙂

      • DeniseVB says:

        Kennedy was a rock star circa 1960 campaign. An inspiring and handsome man with a beautiful family. I’m jealous you got to meet him Dora. It’s a sign! You got to meet The Donald too🙂

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Ok kids, wrap your brains around this:

    The private invite to Chelsea Clinton’s Wednesday night fund-raiser, to be held at a swanky Upper East Side residence, reads that it’s in support of her mother’s 2016 presidential bid. But some of the big spenders plunking down the big bucks to attend say Chelsea’s future in politics has been the talk of her campaign rallies.

    “You’re seeing the beginning of Chelsea Clinton preparing to run,” says a donor who attended Chelsea’s rally at Dr. Paul Boskind’s Midtown home last week, where “limited availability guest” entry started at $250 and $2,700 “champion” tickets included a photo with Chelsea. Our insider says: “A dynasty is on the way.”

    Chelsea’s already 35, she could have easily bought a congressional seat by now in LibTown NYC. I don’t really see any political ambition other than being a Clinton spawn and she really hasn’t accomplished much without the help of mom and dad. Including a stupid gossipy piece like this😛

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Rand Paul just suspended his campaign.

  9. Myiq2xu says:

    Here is the important thing to remember about the “Master Persuader Filter” thesis: Whether it is a set of skills that can be learned or some magical power one is born with, the MPF does not make you smarter, wiser, nor moral. You can be a Master Persuader and still be a douchebag or an evil dictator. Cult leaders like Jim Jones and Randy David Koresh were probably MP’s too.

    Choose wisely.

  10. Myiq2xu says:

  11. DeniseVB says:

    Hmmmmm? Rand and his dad were always anti-establishment candidates, so who knows where his supporters could land….Carson and Fiorina would be good options too.

    • DandyTIger says:

      I know several libertarian Paul supporters. They’re all for Trump. Not because they think Trump is a libertarian. But because things will break.🙂

      • I’ve also heard a number of prototypical vile progs say this. “Well maybe Trump should win and that way things will get bad enough faster.” Exact same thing I said about Bush in 2000. Wooooo-boy. Did not get what I expected.

      • 1539days says:

        I really cannot understand how someone can be a libertarian and support Trump.

  12. Well, work didn’t go so well. Got clammy and dizzy on the way there. Boss took one look at me and said, “Go home.”

    Fucking flu.

  13. votermom says:

    More interesting than I expected.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’ve always liked Ted Cruz from back when he was the underdog in his Texas Senate race. I believe he was in that first wave of Tea Party wins when Sarah swooped in and got him across the line, so it was shocking to me when she endorsed Trump over Ted. Sort of sent me a Bat (Sarah) Signal, this is a revolution, not an election.

      My contribution to your great review😉

  14. Ann says:

    I like reading Scott Adams, but I think good ole Scott is the real master manipulator. “I’m not for Trump.” “I don’t support Obama.” The stuff he slides off like that – yeah, uh huh, sure.

    I just feel like every time I read one of his articles it isn’t analytical, but rather emotional, and he is trying to persuade or manipulate me to his true point of view.

  15. Dora says:

    This is a pretty damning statement from the article:

    Carson said his wife Candy arrived at the precinct to learn that a Cruz supporter was “disseminating” the misinformation and was asked to set straight the record.
    “She did, and we won that precinct,” he said.

    Carson accuses Cruz camp of spreading false rumors on campaign suspension

  16. Myiq2xu says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Not sure that’s the right approach. It’s possibly true, but Iowa is old news. Also I think Rubio is his main competition. Cruz keeping Rubio in third place in New Hampshire would be a good thing.

    • See, and right here I’m annoyed with Trump. Man up. This is caucus politics. Lying is not against the rules. Learn fast if you want to win.

      • lyn says:

        Trump needs to tell Cruz to stop playing dirty against a brain surgeon.

      • piper says:

        I guess in Trump’s mind, only he is allowed to lie or slant the truth or make derogatory comments about people who aren’t in his camp or praise him to the hilt.

        • taw46 says:

          That part is OK, they all do it. I think what bothers a lot of people, is if you start screwing with the actual voting. That is what some people believed Cruz’s people did on Monday.

          • lyn says:

            Word. Cruz lied to get more votes.

          • piper says:

            I want real proof not garbage spewed by the media or another narcissist. I will write in my dog’s name before I vote for Trump another person with sound bites but no actual plan.
            My choice is still for Scott Walker.

          • taw46 says:

            For many, perception is reality. Won’t be able to change their minds.

            And you absolutely should make your own decision for your vote. I think we all intend to do that, don’t think there is anyone on this site who can be forced to vote against their conscience.

          • 1539days says:

            Piper, I’m with you. The proof that Walker was the best candidate is that he was smart enough to get out of the clown car early and do his job in Wisconsin.

    • votermom says:

      Here’s what I think happened

      CNN found out that Carson was flying back to Florida and printed that he was dropping out (in fairness to CNN, Carson said he went to FL to get clean clothes, which sounds totally bogus. I think he almost dropped out or had some kind of emergency donor meeting)
      Cruz campaign saw that from CNN and ran with it.
      Trump sees that Carson & his supporters are pissed at Cruz for this and is trying to win them to his side because face it, Carson’s campaign is not going to be around much longer.
      So, I have no reason to be angry at any of this – all pretty tame primary goings on, imo.

    • Somebody says:

      Bad idea on Trump’s part…..bad idea. Nobody likes a sore loser or a sore winner for that matter.

      Imagine how the people in NH feel. It’s like going out on a date and having the other person spend the entire night talking about their ex. Talk about a turn off.

      Trump is wrapping himself in loser stink with this tactic. He let the media and pollsters mind fuck him. That late surge wasn’t real, Trump was never suited for Iowa.

      • lyn says:

        On FB, Trump is complaining that Iowa Cruz supporters told their caucuses that Trump supported Obamacare. Maybe he needs to get Cruz’s shit out of his system and move on.

        • Oh, Team Cruz did play that card, and they deployed it well. Totally on Trump. I’m just hoping Manning can “get” Newton’s weaknesses as well on Sunday, but I doubt it.

        • Somebody says:

          Cruz people at the caucuses said until 6 months ago Trump was a dem, supported late term abortion and all sorts of things. Welcome to the caucus system. A) Trump needed a ground game and needed someone at each site to refute such stuff…..and B) How stupid are these people? Do none of them own smart phones??

          Iowa is over, let it go.

          • leslie says:

            This morning on MJoe I heard Trump say he was going to increase spending on his ground game. He realized this was an important factor.

      • Venus says:

        I disagree — this is about SC not NH. Cruz isn’t really a threat in NH, but he has a lot of support in SC, as does Carson.
        But Carson might not even be around by SC — and even if he is, having him split votes with Cruz, benefits Trump.

  17. dm says:

    Yeah, I think Trump initially tried to do the gracious thing, but I think the more the talking heads were proclaiming that Trump lost, the more it bothered him. He does seem to have that personality that is sometimes more reactive than reflective, which I think is what scares some people. I think all of Trump’s baiting Cruz for the past month has had a negative impact overall – not good for Cruz and ultimately not good for Trump. Trump needs to take a quick “spa” break, and get his head together. He still has enormous support, but he has to get that to translate to votes. Ultimately, he shouldn’t worry about Cruz – he should worry about Rubio.

    • lyn says:

      Trump also needs to start hiring political advisers. He’s being doing it on the cheap, and things are starting to get serious.

    • Venus says:

      Looks like the other GOPers are already out for Rubio in NH — Christie already started attacks calling him “the bubble boy” and you know Jeb! is still pissed (which means Kasich will start piling on).

      That’s all fine with me — I can’t stand that little weasel Rubio.

    • Somebody says:

      Trump needs to concentrate on Trump. Taking a short break to regroup and refocus would be a good idea AND hiring staff and putting together a GOTV program. Huge rallies, name recognition and marketing can only carry you so far.

      I too think Trump is in it to win it, but politics isn’t business although there are some similarities.

      • taw46 says:

        I saw his press conference in NH yesterday. That is one thing he said, that he would have to put more money into his campaign, he wants to win. So, let’s hope the money is spent wisely.

  18. Venus says:

    Scott Adams would reply that you’re looking at this in the 2D world, not the 3D.😉

    Yes, Adams isn’t a politico but he readily admits that. He’s looking at Trump 100% based on Emotion, not Reason or Analogy. (As he posits: Emotion beats Analogy and Analogy beats Reason, and Reason only beats Definitions).

    I think Adams has an interesting perspective. And the fact is he’s been more right on reading Trump’s appeal (Emotion, not Analogy or Reason) than the politicos who swore Trump would be out 6 months ago and didn’t have a chance in hell in Iowa (2nd place with the 2nd highest votes ever).

    • lyn says:

      Yep. Obama’s appeal was based on all emotion too.

    • I think Adams has an interesting perspective.

      I would absolutely agree, and I have enjoyed reading him, but he needs more logos to balance his pathos. There’s a reason the inventors of persuasion created a 3-point system. He would do well to study up on it. I know Aristotle isn’t offering a class, but that shit is all over YouTube, man. That’s right up Scott’s alley! LOL.😀

  19. foxyladi14 says:

    enjoy 😀

  20. DeniseVB says:

    I tweeted this earlier because this is what happened. And I really do hate the caucus system. The Hillary camp took full advantage of the untrained Sanders camp too with those recounts and coin tosses.

    • dm says:

      Seriously, how did she win all those coin tosses??? Did she sell her soul to the devil too??? We already know she sold her soul to Obama.

    • lyn says:

      You made me sign in to RT. Damn you!

      • leslie says:

        What lyn just said !!!

      • DeniseVB says:

        Sorry lyn and leslie, I see Dana’s husband Chris decided to respond to me and drag in my likers. I had a bad feeling when I took a break today (not SUSPEND) from the internet. Nothing freaks me out more than sign back in to a dozen or so “mentions” emails.

        • 1539days says:

          Be careful, I think Chris Loesch has no visible means of support, so he can respond to every Dana mention in twitter.

        • taw46 says:

          I just looked, you did fine with them.

        • leslie says:

          This is TOO funny! I just looked at my twitter “notifications” to find I had 14+ mentions and responses today and the only thing I did was RT you. LOL. There are some real crazies out there with nothing else to do. How many more mentions will we have when the employed get home and go on twitter ? 😉 😉

    • Somebody says:

      Isn’t Dana too cute by half? Truth is CNN does bear some responsibility, but the Cruz camp embellished. BTW you are spot on, voters in caucuses are bullied and misled. Caucuses suck, IMHO.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Here in bumf**k Virginia if a campaign toady poll gauntlet volunteer gets anywhere near a voter at the polls, they are legally shot. (Not really, they are penned at my precinct though😉 ).

    • 1539days says:

      Yeah, but who the hell takes a break from running for president? I think Cruz campaign people were legitimately confused by the crazy stuff Carson was doing on caucus night.

  21. Wholly SHIT! Quick, Anthony, is something celestial in retrograde? Because e’rybody is flipping the feck out today. The fourth wave has suddenly joined the crabby party.


    THE DAY MY HUSBAND TOLD ME HE LIKED BERNIE, HE SAID, “I mean, how great is it to have a president who just doesn’t even care how his hair looks” AND I EXPLODED “DO YOU THINK THERE EXISTS A WORLD WHERE A WOMAN COULD EVEN CONSIDER THAT?”


    Effing glorious! Impotence wins the Internets today.

    • Venus says:

      well, I think we all learned back in 2008 just how sexist the male progs really are (“Bro’s before Ho’s” t-shirts, anyone? Or how about the classic “Sarah Palin is a Cunt”?)

      I’m happy this special little snowflake is seeing it now that Bernie lacks the alleged “coolnes” of Obama (because I’d bet a million dollars she was an Obama supporter in 2008), but I think her outrage will be as effective as ours was then.

    • Comments are *PRICELESS*

      Some very angry women fighting with The Unicorn Brigade. On the line: A socialist revolution, taxing the filthy rich, and your vagina!

      Maybe it’s the codeine cough syrup, but it’s funnier with all this distance. And I am disinclined to lift a finger to help the poor dears, seeing as they were so eager to push me into a rocker at age 37. Bitches can fight their own battles. They gotta learn somehow. Good luck with it.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Best crazy rant ever. Love it.

  22. lyn says:

    Talk about opening a can of worms.
    “The Working Group is preparing a final report to deliver in September 2016, as part of the International Decade for People of African Descent, which the UN began in 2015 to recognize and remedy the ongoing impacts of slavery and colonialism on more than 200 million people of African descent living around the world. Many of its preliminary recommendations are drawn from a similar report following a study visit to the US in 2010.”

  23. Dora says:

    Another one drops.

    First on CNN: Rick Santorum dropping presidential bid

    • DeniseVB says:

      Former Iowa winner too, eh? I like Rick, another fellow parent in love of a special needs child, as is David Axelrod. I pick my battles🙂

  24. Dora says:

    Poor Jeb. He’s looking sadder and sadder. Maybe he will be next.

    Jeb Bush Has to Tell New Hampshire Crowd ‘Please Clap’

  25. mothy67, says:

    Little help please
    What happened to the Social Security fund? I confess to knowing very little, but it seemed to me obamacare paved the way for privitizing mandatory retirement.

    • DandyTIger says:

      I don’t think anything has changed with that. Not yet anyway. Though money is always being siphoned off from those accounts, so it’s pretty much empty. But as far as I know, rules haven’t changed and payments continue.

      • mothy67, says:

        I know it has been siphoned off but I am interested in the why, how, when.

      • 1539days says:

        Around the time Obama “gave” people that withholding tax break, the money came out of Social Security. While it is funded by current workers, the money flow is negative. The fund is paying out more than it’s taking in.

        There are people (like Krugman) out there who claim Social Security is fully funded for the next 75 years and even after that they can pay 75% of benefits. I’d like to see what kind of war starts when retirees have to take a 25% cut in the checks.

  26. Dora says:

  27. DandyTIger says:

    I don’t know about you guys, but I’m having fun with this election. Though I am planning an escape route at the same time.🙂

    • mothy67, says:

      I was. Now not so much. I was anybody but ABCB. Anybody but Clinton or Bush. No mas no rubio, no clinton no cruz. . I am not in a Trump cult but I thank God he upset the apple cart. I’d have gone to NH and starting tomorrow I will do GOTV for Trump.
      Cruz creeps me the fuck out. I’ll sit home if he i s on the ticket. His religious stuff is too wierd for me. Rubio reeks of slime. Kasich no way in hell. Christie v Clinton I will vote for donuts. No other candidate inspires me.

    • 1539days says:

      I can always go with my old Obama plan, try to activate German citizenship on my mother’s side. Although given current events, that’s not much of a Plan B.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wordy-word. Liquidated our pittance in Wall Street and savings, paid our house off, we’re now liquid. Make me move! 🙂

      • elliesmom says:

        Our financial advisers cautioned us about buying our new house outright with mortgage rates so low, but we went ahead and did it anyway. Even if the housing markets completely tank, and our house is worth a lot less than we paid for it, we still have a place to live. If we had left the money in Wall Street, and Wall Street goes belly up we’d have nothing.

  28. mothy67, says:

    I am fascinated about how Rick Santorem has been misquoted. I believed the hype many years ago when he was labeled enemy number one by Savage.
    I am gay and open thought he was fire and brimstone. Truth is he is not the monster the media created.
    …. obama is meeting tonight with a radical islam dude who regular attacks homosexuality as transgressors. Everything I read by Santorem is about embracing the gay sinners. He is not muderous. I disagree with him but I respect whsre he is coming from.
    Huckebee and Santorem and Trump I think are far more honest than Cruz or hillary.

    • leslie says:

      I would so much rather listen to Huckabee or Trump or Carson or Santorum speak than HRC or Rubio or even Cruz.
      In fact, when Cruz was giving his victory spiel at the end of the Iowa caucus, I yelled at the teevee (Cruz, really) to “STFU”. I turned it off after the 3rd or fourth reference to “courageous conservatives” and religion.
      I was in Cruz’s corner for a long time. If this is the way he will speak to the nation if elected, it will be another nightmare for me. Just like now. ;(

  29. Dora says:

  30. DeniseVB says:

    OT: My oldest son turns 44 today, what a ride !

  31. dm says:

    Santorum suspends, endorses Rubio…at least I don’t think that adds up to a ton of votes.

  32. taw46 says:

    Now CNN is mad at Cruz, lol.

  33. Venus says:

    Sarah Palin weighs in on the Cruz/Carson Iowa fight:

    Dirty Politics: Witnessing Firsthand It’s Always Heartbreaking, Never Surprising

    Thank heavens Donald Trump opened so many eyes to the lies, corruption and total lack of accountability that come so naturally to the permanent political class. And Sen. Ted Cruz was spot on when he once noted that “millions of Americans are asking for accountability and truth.” Which is why it’s so curious – and saddens us – this lack of accountability with the lies of Cruz’s own campaign.

    Cruz’s campaign chairman, U.S. Representative Steve King, is lying, and good for Dr. Ben Carson for calling this out. King, who’s previously asked for and received my endorsement, time and resources to support his own election, is still lying about my altruistic support of Mr. Trump, and he’s refused to provide any evidence to the contrary. And, this U.S. Congressman actually lied to his own constituents on behalf of Cruz, regarding a good man, Dr. Carson. He told voters Carson was dropping out of the Presidential race immediately before the Iowa caucus, causing a relative uproar inside the process, so the word would spread and he could rack up more votes for his candidate, Cruz. That’s a dirty trick. Dr. Carson deserved better. The voters deserved better!

    Where is the accountability for these political actions? Very sad; typical Washington tactics. THIS is why “the status quo has got to go.”

    Our friend Dr. Carson put it so well:

    “As Christians, of course we accept people’s apologies, we also have to ask ourselves is this acceptable to us, the American people, or should there be some accountability? There should be some consequences for things. You don’t just say ‘oh, okay, sorry… okay let’s move on.’ The damage was done to me, it wasn’t done to them.”

    We’ve had eight years of a reckless President, accountable to no one, pushing this country to the brink. Why would we ever take a risk repeating that? We are never going to turn this country around if we keep electing “more of the same.” Just like conservatives have been preaching in opposition to Obama’s political tactics for years: actions speak louder than words.

    The Cruz Campaign’s actions to destroy a good man’s efforts to serve are no different than Obama’s practice of not holding anyone accountable. Typical politics. Typical politicians.


  34. Venus says:

    Carson camp is not amused by Cruz:

    Team Carson furious with Cruz

    Ben Carson and his closest advisers are going nuclear against Ted Cruz and his campaign for spreading false rumors that he intended to drop out ahead of the Iowa caucuses.

    Carson’s close friend and adviser Armstrong Williams told The Hill in an interview on Wednesday that the Cruz campaign’s tactics were “nasty, brutal and deceitful.”

    “We’ve been told all along that Cruz’s operatives play dirty and were capable of this stuff, but Dr. Carson never believed it, he felt like they had a respectable operation,” Williams said. “Now we see firsthand that having integrity just doesn’t matter to them. It’s about honor and character, either you have it or you don’.”

    Williams said he’s certain that Cruz knew the rumors about him dropping out were false but says the Texas Republican allowed his underlings to spread it anyway.

    “He’s a pure politician and will do anything to win,” Williams said. “It doesn’t matter who he does it to, friend or foe, whatever it takes to win. Cruz has been running as an outsider and calling Hillary Clinton dishonest. Well, Cruz is the one running without honor or integrity, and this shows he’s just like everyone else inside-the-beltway.” [snip]

    Cruz and Carson were fighting for the same evangelical supporters in the Hawkeye State, and Cruz supporters at several precincts told voters that with Carson out, they should get behind Cruz.

    Carson’s wife, Candy Carson, was at one of the precincts where the person speaking on Cruz’s behalf told voters that Carson was out. [snip]

    Donald Trump has seized on the controversy to claim that the election was stolen from him.

    Cruz took 27.6 percent support at the Iowa caucuses over Trump at 24.3 percent. Carson came in fourth place at 9.3 percent support.


  35. taw46 says:

    OMG! Is this for real?

  36. driguana says:

    Good post, Lola.

    So now we have, and accept, a presidential campaign process that is determined by the flip of a coin…amazing…utterly astounding…how far we have fallen…

  37. mothy67, says:

    Have you ever watched Z Nation?
    At first I thought it was painfully bad but it gets funny and the charavters grow on you.
    Little boy from Twilight becomes leading man material.
    I cannot decide if I hate hate it or love it. Csmp!

    Do you think there is going tbe be a gay theme on Fesr The Walling Dead? I see it. AMC was under some gay nazi pressur. I think the guy that owns the yacht might be about the NIck character.

  38. Dora says:

    Do not trust this man.

    Candidate Marco Rubio Tells Jorge Ramos, in Spanish, That Obama’s Unilateral Amnesty Is A Good Thing and Should Be Part of Permanent Amnesty Solution…

    Originally Written in April 2015 – Re posted exactly as previous outlined:

    • Somebody says:

      That is old news Dora, at least to those of us around here. I don’t know how many times I’ve said a vote for Rubio is a vote for amnesty, open borders and a flood of legal, cheap foreign labor.

    • Dora says:

      That’s true. But people have short memories and it needs to be repeated.

  39. Somebody says:

    It’s really quiet around here this morning. Everybody politicked out?

    Perhaps we should talk about football, super bowl anyone??? Who is everybody rooting for in the super bowl? Denver and the redemption/last hoorah for Peyton Manning. Perhaps you’re tired of the same old teams winning and you’d prefer to see Charlotte win their first super bowl??

    I don’t have a dog in the fight personally. I just hope it’s a good game because…..sniff, sniff…..there won’t be any more football until next August.

  40. Dora says:

    Glen Beck is a creep!

    Goldline Agrees to Refund Millions to Customers

  41. DeniseVB says:

    New thread up !

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