Damn Those Stupid Voters!

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The enduring problem with democracy is that stupid people get to vote too. If only the elites were in charge, everything would be great.

Rich Lowry at NRO:

Check out the exit polls — the breadth and depth of the Trump victory is extraordinary. He won among just about every part of the electorate, no matter how you slice it. Maybe New Hampshire is uniquely suited to Trump (certainly the terrain is more favorable than Iowa), but he is not a force to be trifled with. Candidates, groups, and donors who think they can let Trump run free for a while because it allegedly serves their temporary interests are playing with fire.

So Donald Trump basically ran the table with every demographic – men, women, young people, old people, educated, uneducated, rich and poor – and that’s a BAD thing?

Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders is about to get hit with the race card:

Clinton allies grapple with crushing loss
After a devastating defeat, her campaign hopes to rebound with a sharp focus on African Americans.

Both Hillary and Bill Clinton knew she would lose here — but not by this much.

Now, after a drubbing so serious as to call into question every aspect of her campaign from her data operation to her message, the wounded front-runner and her allies are actively preparing to retool their campaign, according to Clinton allies.

Staffing and strategy will be reassessed. The message, which so spectacularly failed in New Hampshire, where she was trailing by 21 points when she appeared before her supporters to concede to Bernie Sanders, is also going to be reworked – with race at the center of it.
Clinton is set to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner, unarmed African-Americans who died in incidents involving law enforcement officers and a neighborhood watch representative, respectively. And the campaign, sources said, is expected to push a new focus on systematic racism, criminal justice reform, voting rights and gun violence that will mitigate concerns about her lack of an inspirational message.

“The gun message went silent in New Hampshire,” remarked one ally close to the campaign. “Guns will come back in a strong way.” She is expected to highlight the problem of gun violence as the leading cause of death among African-American men as she campaigns in South Carolina on Friday.


The race issue was also front and center in the memo released by campaign manager Robby Mook before the polls closed, just minutes before the race was called for Sanders.

65% of registered Democrats in South Carolina are black. Hillary needs them to turn out and vote for her in big numbers. The gender card won’t do it. That’s why I am confidently predicting that we are about to find out that Bernie Sanders is a racist.

You heard it here first.

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160 Responses to Damn Those Stupid Voters!

  1. Myiq2xu says:

    A funny thing happened on the way to Hillary’s coronation.

  2. Dora says:

    Wonderful night! Congratulations to the happy family who are on their way to SC now for the next round. 🙂

  3. Myiq2xu says:

    • Myiq2xu says:

      8 years ago she had a big lead in superdelegates too.

      • Jadzia says:

        Yeah, but unlike last time around, I think this time around the party apparatchiks will be seeing her as the lesser of two evils, unless the inmates have really taken over the asylum. Where the superdelegates come into play 2008-style, IMHO, is if you have a Biden or somebody like that jumping in late and the knives come out.

        • leslie says:

          So, Biden being “drafted” at the convention is my main scenario thought. But, today, Mika was pushing and pushing and pushing Elizabeth Warren’s name. You know, the Cherokee? This after little more than a week ago saying how she couldn’t stand her. The long knives are already out.

  4. Myiq2xu says:

    There is a definite enthusiasm gap:

    Hundreds of Bernie Sanders’ supporters packed into a high school gym here—after waiting outside in frigid temperatures to file through metal detectors one-by-one—to celebrate his big win. Meanwhile, about twenty miles away, a loyal crowd tried to keep its collective chin up as Hillary Clinton conceded defeat in the first Democratic primary contest.

    The contrast highlights just how much damage Sanders is doing to Clinton’s campaign. Even though he’s still a longshot to snag the nomination, his candidacy is persuading young voters, women, and progressives that Clinton is in the pocket of big banks and corrupt corporations—and it’s persuading Clinton’s own supporters that they’re on the sadder side of this contest.

    It remains to be seen, of course, if Sanders will actually be able to pick up any more wins. Current polls indicate that Sanders’ campaign in the other early states will be much trickier than his efforts in the New Hampshire. Clinton’s double-digit leads in South Carolina and Nevada might have given a few of his supporters pause.

    But those supporters weren’t in Concord tonight.

    The gym his supporters packed into brimmed with unmitigated glee. An eclectic crowd danced, chanted, foot-stomped, and overall whooped it up for the democratic-socialist turned Democratic primary champion.

    And the crowd’s devotion to their candidate highlighted just how much damage his candidacy is doing to Clinton’s—even if she’s the party’s ultimate nominee, which still seems all but guaranteed.
    Numerous Sanders supporters flatly stated that they would under no circumstances back Clinton, citing the criticisms of her that Sanders brings up on the stump every day.

    Ashley Bays of Quincy, Mass., who came to New Hampshire to volunteer for Sanders, said she would “absolutely not” back Clinton, ever.

    “It would be completely against my ideals,” she said.

    “Hillary is obviously not thinking about the best interests of the people,” she continued. “She’s thinking about the corporations that fund her, Goldman Sachs.”

    Peggie Greenough, a New Hampshire voter who came to the party along with her husband and three sons, said she wouldn’t vote for Clinton if she’s nominee.

    “I don’t trust her,” she said. “I don’t trust her at all.”

    Marilyn DeLuca, of Londonderry, N.H., also said Sanders is “the only candidate out there” with integrity. And she wasn’t exactly enthralled by Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem’s goofy arguments that women are obligated to back Clinton.

    “They’re irrelevant,” DeLuca said. “Their time has come and gone.”

    “I have two daughters in their twenties,” she added, “and they were so angry when they heard that.”

    • Jadzia says:

      I don’t vote in the States anymore (“Thank God” — the USA), but these idiots apparently never heard of Ralph Nader 2000. Assuming that nobody is playing any dirty tricks (well, let’s say UNUSUALLY dirty tricks, because they all play them, right?) Given their stated reasons for voting for Bernie Sanders (“it’s the PRINCIPLLLLEEEEE……!!!!!”), I would love to hear their thoughts on the day that President Trump is inaugurated. (Or better yet for the purposes of this little fantasy, President Santorum or Huckabee.)

      • Jadzia says:

        oops. What I meant to say was, “Assuming that nobody is playing any dirty tricks [parenthetical], I do think it’s kind of fucked up to take your ball and go home because your boy didn’t win.” IIRC, PUMA wasn’t about the fact that Hillary didn’t get the nomination, it was about the cheating and corruption that gave us nominee (and then president) Obama.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          It was pretty clear back then that no way would the Obots ever vote for Hillary if she won the nomination.

          • Jadzia says:

            Yep–at the behest of Michelle Obama, who basically said as much on Good Morning America or one of those morning shows.

        • elliesmom says:

          When I worked for Hillary in 2008, a lot of us weren’t Democrats. We were just Hillary supporters so when she didn’t get the nomination, there was no commitment on our part to support the Democrat. A lot of us were in it to “break the glass ceiling”, and it was completely natural and should have been expected we would settle for getting a woman elected VP. When I switched to campaigning for McCain/Palin, I saw a lot of familiar faces.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    NYDN hired Shaun King, so this makes sense. 😉

  6. Bernie’s already built up a firewall against the racism charge. He did so after he was confronted by BLM at the DKOS event last summer. He’s made it even stronger over the last couple of months, I suspect because he anticipates this attack. Hillary can fling all the shit she wants to at him, but he’s got Shawn King and Del Ray in his corner. He was playing basketball last night, for chrissakes. That’s what you call subtext.

  7. votermom says:

  8. 1539days says:

    I checked out the exit polls. Trump won about 35% in all of them. The only group he really ran away with were people with no college or less than high school education. The problem with demography is that we’re still talking about contests where no one is getting to 40%.

    The way the GOP loaded their later primaries with winner take all contests could bode well for Trump. If he wins all the delegates in a state with 40% of the vote, he could clean up very fast.

    • piper says:

      I’d like to know how many democrat cross-over votes he received, another ploy by dems. who should never be underestimated given their past devious tactics. Remember the Akins, McCaskell senatorial race in Missouri.
      The race is far from over – 2 states down and Super Tuesday ahead.

      • Jadzia says:

        So…. I had to explain the caucus system to my husband today. Good times. He was like, WHAT? THAT’S CRAZY. Me: “No, but there’s more! Wait, where are you going?”

      • Somebody says:

        He had 0% dem cross-over vote. It’s a partially open primary only independents can cross if you are registered R or D you must vote R or D. No party affiliation or independent, you can pick your ballot.

        That being said, leading up to the primary any shenanigan?? Who knows. I think everybody and their brother was trying to get those voters to vote for them NOT for some other guy. The only campaign that would benefit from such a move would have been Hillary’s and she needed every vote she could get.

        • 1539days says:

          Plus, if you know that Bernie is going to win the primary, but you could vote for him or Trump, you might go to Trump. The only flaw in that theory is that Trump does poorly among independents.

  9. elliesmom says:

    I’m headed back to MA today. Because it’s snowing inland again, we’ll be taking the more eastern route. That’s significant because MA becomes more conservative the further west you go. I’ll be starting my usual lawn sign count as we near Super Tuesday. I’ve found comparing the ratio of yard signs is a pretty good predictor of how the primary will go. I don’t expect to see many Republican signs along this route although the last time I was in Concord, MA I saw a flatbed truck driving around with a Trump billboard on the back. I’m particularly interested to see which sign my old neighbor will have on her lawn. Will it be Hillary or Bernie? I’m betting it will be Bernie.

  10. Myiq2xu says:

    • leslie says:

      People like this yahoo, Zack Ford, really make me mad. They are so judgmental of anyone who is different from them. Just imperious and arrogant and sneering. He/They are basically unhappy that others derive a sense of wellbeing – or any other positive feeling – without his/their approval.
      I know people like that. They aren’t quite hypocrites, but very dissatisfied with life.

      • votermom says:

        You are right. They are unhappy and take it out on everyone else.

      • piper says:

        What have we come to with all this exaggerated PCness, trigger words and safe spaces. Tolerance, respect, compassion seem to be words to be flung around.

      • Jadzia says:

        I can’t stand that type of douchebag. I hate to sound all National Review or whatever, but if you wouldn’t make fun of a kippah or a prayer rug, then please shut the fuck up about dirty foreheads and magic underpants.

    • 1539days says:

      I honor the sacrifice on Jesus by wearing “dirt.” You believe your existence ends in a pile of dirt. I win.

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  13. helenk3 says:


    the lessons of engineering for social engineers

    a really good article

  14. Dora says:

    Be careful Donald. The snakes are making their plans.

    • swanspirit says:

      Trump already has a response for this. If you are trying to destroy him, you are part of the problem. I hope he can maintain that meme, because it will be coming at him from many sides.

      • Jadzia says:

        I mostly can’t stand Trump, but I agree with him on this one. Unless the candidate in question really is a certified fascist (which doesn’t describe any American presidential candidate in my memory), how about hey, our ideas are better and we should win? Sounds naive, I know, but I am sick of, as one politician said long ago, “the politics of personal destruction.” I am tired of seeing clickbait about how so-and-so “DESTROYED!!!! [fill in Republican name here] WITH JUST ONE TWEET!” I am tired of my friends, who don’t know my political views (because I’m not an asshole), filling up my FB feed with a bunch of shit that basically calls me a r*cist who should die. WTF, America.

        • swanspirit says:

          It isn’t naive at all. What happened to and is still happening , to Sarah Palin still disgusts me to my core. Trump will fare better, because he is a seasoned fighter, and he knows many of his enemies personally. He also has many more resources at his fingertips
          Part of the irony of what was done so deliberately to Palin, was that now, complete untruths are believed by the left, and yet they call their opposition stupid.

    • lyn says:

      They aren’t the brightest bulbs on the block.

  15. taw46 says:

    “I see a clearer path to the nomination for Trump than for Sanders, but there is no doubt that Americans have spoken and they’re done with business as usual.” Doug Schoen

    • Jadzia says:

      Here’s the thing: After Howard Dean in 2004 and Barack Obama in 2008, I think the “OMG SO RILL!!!!” dude swooping in from the left IS business as usual.

      • taw46 says:

        Sanders is just like the progs running the Dem party. Only difference is he openly calls himself a Socialist.

      • 1539days says:

        Outsider candidates are nothing new. Perot was the crazy billionaire in 1992.

        • Jadzia says:

          Right, I forgot about him! So slot him into the “Howard Dean” position in the R party as “flamed out candidates who entertained us for a time.” I don’t think Trump is going to flame out, but obviously I could be wrong about that.

  16. jennifer lyn says:

    Lena Dunham speaks only for deranged, idiotic, imbecilic, farces of what liberals think women should be (i.e. democrat women). As a former feminist and true voice for strong empowered women who keep their clothes on I would like to smack her, continuously, very hard.

  17. DandyTIger says:

    Never underestimate the establishment’s ability to smash revolt and squash democratic movements. But so far I’m enjoying the mess.

  18. taw46 says:

  19. Jadzia says:

    Call me crazy, but I really do see Sanders as Howard Dean 2.0. I would not be at all surprised to see a spectacular meltdown of some variety in the coming months. Why? Don’t know. Just a hunch.

    Also, I think it’s kind of silly(*) to obsess over the results of a primary that is essentially the home state of one of the candidates. (Which is also why I kinda figured Trump would win on the R side, as the only real East Coaster in the race.) I’ve been looking at NH as a not-so-important done deal just because of the configuration of the candidates on both sides.

    (*)Not directed at anybody here!!!! I’m mostly raging at my asshole FB friends again.

  20. Myiq2xu says:

    Bye bye Gov. Krispy Kreme!

  21. DeniseVB says:

    Meanwhile …. 😉

  22. lyn says:

    “So regardless of how you feel about Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders—and regardless of whether either ever wins another primary—take a moment to thank them for revealing just how little voters care for the Democratic and Republican Parties.”

    • leslie says:

      So true. There were nearly a thousand NEW voters who registered in NH yesterday to vote. And the number of voters exceeded anything in recent history. My guess is that this may continue as long as Trump is in the race – Sanders, too, for that matter.

      Oh, and NH required ID in order to vote – much to the dismay of MSNBC commentators. Poor Rachel Maddow. I thought she was going to be ill all night long. She took the entire election pretty hard. But, voter ID – how (what’s the word?) of NH. Oddly enough, “racist” doesn’t work here, does it?

      • lyn says:

        Thanks for all the information, Leslie.

      • Jadzia says:

        My students, a large proportion of whom are people of color, are GOBSMACKED when I tell them that it’s considered racist to require ID to vote.

        • 1539days says:

          Is voting semi-mandatory in France?

          • Jadzia says:

            Nope. It works not much differently than in the States. You go to city hall and register in advance, bringing both your ID and proof of residence (and oh my God are they strict about the residence requirement). A few weeks later, you get your “voting card” in the mail, which you take to the polls with you. At the polls, you give them your voting card AND your photo ID, and your voting card is stamped (so you can’t come back and vote again, I guess). Also, they find you on the voter roll (just like in the US) and you sign in on the voter roll.

  23. taw46 says:

    Doug Schoen just asked Rich Lowry if he would vote for Trump if he were the nominee. His answer, I won’t vote for Hillary or Bernie. Schoen also said he was optimistic about Trump’s chances in SC, thinks he will surprise a lot of people.

    • lyn says:

      • DeniseVB says:

        Meet Trump’s SC campaign chairman 😀 Speak about strong and smart women, The Donald sure can pick them.


        Sidebar: She primary challenged Lindsey Graham for the Senate and was doing pretty well against him, BUT then the GOPe threw in a couple more male “candidates” to water down the votes. She was crushed. For some reason we became Facebook friends after I wrote on her newsfeed that I wish I could move to SC just to vote for her…..she sent me a friend request 🙂 I would love for DJT to win SC to send the GOPe a message, no we won’t forget ! Oh, and Trump was beating the pants off Lindsey in SC when he was still in the race.

      • 1539days says:

        If Carson’s done (which he probably is) then Cruz has a big group of evangelicals willing to GOTV in South Carolina.

  24. Dora says:

  25. lyn says:

    • leslie says:

      I don’t think I’d vote for Cruz for $18. Maybe $1200 for Bush, though. 😉

    • leslie says:

      Good info. Interesting.
      gotta go – acupuncture today………………….Later

      • lyn says:

        Is it helping? My appt. is tomorrow.

        • leslie says:

          I can’t tell. It helps for a day or 2 and then I’m back to where I started – sometimes even worse. But I think it may be too early to tell. Besides, after having flu/whatever, and all the lifting (while babysitting) putting strain on my back, I’m probably not helping myself.
          Since I’m now retired, it’s hard to find a MD who accepts Medicare – despite the excellent insurance I have to cover what Medicare doesn’t.
          I may have found someone that the ortho surgeon (who I was hoping to see) recommended – and at the same hospital. He’s a neurosurgeon. I’m hoping for a call back this afternoon after my appointment.
          I hope yours helps… I appreciate the relief even though it’s short-lived. I know others who have benefitted from it immensely.

  26. lyn says:

    On a lighter note:

  27. Dora says:

    I think Bernie supporters should revolt!

    Clinton likely to leave NH with same number of delegates as Sanders


  28. helenk3 says:


    bernie to meet al sharpton before going to NC.

    so it has come to this, a race baiting, tax avoiding cheat is the go to guy for the democrats.

    what an insult to the hard working, tax paying self respecting black voter in this country

  29. votermom says:

  30. Myiq2xu says:

    Tucker caught a bird. Apparently the first thing he did after he brought it in the house was take it from room to room and pluck it.

    I don’t know if he ate it or not. So far I haven’t discovered the corpse.

  31. Myiq2xu says:

    BREAKING: Carly’s out.

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