Some of you may be too young to remember this political year. I just graduated high school and this ad creeped me out. I went on to drop out of college to join a freshmen congressman’s staff on Capitol Hill. It was 1965, and I was making more than a new school teacher in Fairfax County. Politics never made much sense after that either. Moral of my story, after 50 years, we’re still fooked. Amirite?

“Daisy”, sometimes known as “Daisy Girl” or “Peace, Little Girl”, was a controversial political advertisement aired on television during the 1964 United States presidential election by incumbent president Lyndon B. Johnson’s campaign.

You can read more about the 1964 election on Wiki

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162 Responses to 1964

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Daily Kos wants to remind us Hillary was a Goldwater Girl in high school.

    But then suddenly, it becomes clear. Fifty two years ago, 16 year old Hillary Clinton was a “Goldwater Girl” – a chipper high-schooler campaigning for the most vocally hardcore, right wing Republican of his Age, the Senator from Arizona Barry Goldwater. That Fall, Goldwater led the Republican ticket to a horrendous drubbing at the hands of Democratic President, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Some of today’s Stupider Left criticize her for being on the wrong side of the 1964 election (as if anyone should be permanently stained by their 16 year old politics) but that’s not why Goldwater matters in 2016. The flinty Arizonan isn’t who Hillary has become, it’s who she’s running against.

    She’s running as LBJ.

    You could read more here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/13/1484628/-Goldwater-Girl-Hillary-s-middle-road-to-the-White-House

    (Doing my part to keep TCH fair and balanced 😉 )

    • 1539days says:

      This is from the site run by a guy who was the youngest precinct captain for Henry Hyde. Markos’ conservative bona fides are stronger than Hillary’s.

      • DeniseVB says:

        DU’s “Skinner” was also a former con. The timing of both their blogs tapped into that Dem rage after Gore lost to Bush and became quite lucrative for them both. Gotta love Capitalism, eh?

    • leslie says:

      Hillary grew up in a very conservative neighborhood in a very conservative suburb outside Chicago. I don’t know how her parents voted or what they espoused, but I have an acquaintance who went to the same high school with her and who voiced real disappointment when Hillary switched from R to D.

  2. Somebody says:

    That commercial is iconic, whether you are old enough to remember it or not you’ve seen it.

    I know a lot of people here at TCH use twitter so you all might find this interesting

    Do any of you use any of the alternatives like Tumblr, GNUsocial?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Here’s a clue in that article:

      We’re just now getting into the thick of the presidential elections, and “establishment” candidates of both parties – Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, respectively — have not had an easy time on social media. The left wing of millennial internet culture, veterans of countless hashtag campaigns, is firmly in Sanders’ camp.

      At least FB gives a choice for most recent or top news, twitter should do the same. I make lists of topics or just use the search feature, my timeline’s always been a mess on the twitter. Some people (not from TCH!) like to retweet everything they read which could be days old news. Some of the Trump fans not only retweet the tweet but all the replies in that tweet too. The list feature has become my friend 🙂

    • 49erDweet says:

      Gonna hafta check ’em out. Hate to have to do it. But those twits running it are bringing it on themselves. Like dogs that can’t keep from lickin’ their own butts.

  3. elliesmom says:

    I was 13 in 1964, and while I remember seeing this commercial, it’s not my strongest memory of that election year. My dad was deeply steeped in the Democratic Party, but he invited me to watch the Republican convention with him that year. He wanted me to see Margaret Chase Smith become a recognized candidate for the presidential nomination. He was convinced a woman would become president soon. Although he was sure she’d be a Democrat, he saw Margaret Chase Smith as a giant first step. When I was invited to be part of an exploratory committee for Patricia Schroeder to run in 1987, Dad said he’d disown me if I didn’t at least go to the meeting. In many ways my father was a traditionalist when it came to raising his only daughter, but not in politics. I’m sorry he didn’t live to see a woman become president. I know he’d be more upset if I never do.

  4. Myiq2xu says:

    The single biggest factor in the 1964 election was the incident that took place in November 1963. LBJ ran on a “remember JFK” theme. It didn’t matter who the GOP nominated.

    1964 was NOT a huge rejection of conservatism. It had very little to do with ideology at all.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Then things got interesting in ’68. I don’t think politics ever recovered from JFK’s assassination, then Bobby’s. We got Nixon.


    • 1539days says:

      The story was that Kennedy and Goldwater planned a series of debates where they would discuss their differing ideologies in public. On the other hand, LBJ was a mean SOB who wanted to win once he was handed the presidency.

      This was the second time I know of where a VP was chosen to get him out of the way, only for him to wind up president. The first time was McKinley picking Teddy Roosevelt.

      Bottom line: Don’t pick a VP because you don’t want him to do anything in politics.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Barry Goldwater ad in 1964, sound familiar? That pesky big bad government’s the problem and they’re going to take grandma’s social security away!

  6. mothy67, says:

    An 8 part mini series called 11/22/63 debuted today on Hulu. Based on a Stephen King novel starring James Franco. Odd you posted about 1964. Time travel story with the goal beng to save JFK.

  7. Dora says:

    Good! They should fight this corrupt system!

  8. DeniseVB says:

    When burgers were 15 cents, the minimum wage was $1.15/hr

  9. taw46 says:

    This is disgusting.

    • dm says:

      I read that story this morning and it sickened me. While I am generally happy to hear about any animals being adopted, this was not just a betrayal of the soldiers it was a betrayal to the dogs as well as the taxpayers. Things like this make me so angry I want to grab a shotgun, head for the hills, join a militia…is there no such thing as honor or integrity any more? These dogs and handlers have such a tremendous bond, I have to think that it’s got to mess up these dogs emotionally. To say that this is a disgrace doesn’t even begin to describe it.

      • taw46 says:

        I am at a loss for words. Here we are thinking the handlers get to take their dogs once they are put up for adoption, but according to this story, they did everything they could for that NOT to happen. It sickens me as well.

        • Somebody says:

          I think it goes to that line of thinking that former military and right wingers are the biggest threat. If you start with that mind set, which is the mind set of this administration then it’s obvious why you’d want to keep the dogs away from their handlers.

          Who articulated that policy?? Why is was Janet Napolitano, whose name I heard mentioned as a possibility for SCOTUS.

          • taw46 says:

            It was my understanding that Robby’s Law gave priority to the dog’s handler, once the dog was put up for adoption. So once again, Obama not following the law. And yes, they despise the military.

            I heard Janet Napolitano’s name mentioned last night, that sounds like something he would do to us. I dread this year, just when we think it can’t get any worse, it always does.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Follow the $$$. It’s not “the Pentagon”. It’s someone working within the system making a bunch of side money.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    Always fun keeping up with the Bernie campaign 🙂

    • Somebody says:

      Fair criticism, but so many intern jobs these days are unpaid.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Yep, back in the day internships were coveted for gaining experience on your resume, not to live off of, it was part of the college “curriculum”. Today’s students want to think of it as a form of slavery not to get paid 😛

        • Jadzia says:

          Yeah, but back in the day, college cost a lot less than it does now, even inflation-adjusted. This is the one thing I’ll give Sanders credit for, so mark yer calendars.

  11. DeniseVB says:

    Back to SCOTUS and how the Dems blocked GWB from appointing a new justice. H/T Chuck Schumer 😉


  12. piper says:

    To save what’s left of my sanity, I am reducing the amount of time I spend on the internet which includes my needlepoint and knitting viewing but find humor to be helping with my ***********.
    So here’s my attempt to scratch my funny bone today.

  13. Dora says:

  14. Myiq2xu says:

    Kanye West has gone off his rocker.


    • Somebody says:

      I wouldn’t GAF if Kanye and Kim fell off the face of the earth. I know a lot of people follow them breathlessly, but I don’t.

    • dm says:

      If it makes you feel any better, my gossip site says Kayne has a boyfriend, he doesn’t actually live with Kim or at least share a bedroom, their marriage is strictly business. But you know, those rappers – they ain’t supposed to be gay. While I generally feel these things are none of anyone’s business, when someone repeatedly puts themselves out there they can expect scrutiny. Besides, he’s also a jerk in the first degree.

    • DeniseVB says:

      What’s he done now? I caught the Taylor Swift sex lyrics thing, then I heard he was 53 million in debt and asked Zuckerberg for a billion dollar loan to invest in his “great ideas”.

      Run Zuck Run !

      • nerdle says:

        You covered it all.

        Not to mention the shitstorm that his album is causing on Tidal. Tidal is a new music streaming service that a bunch of artists (Beyonce, Jay-Z, Prince, etc.) started because they felt they weren’t making enough money from others like Google Play, iTunes, Spotify. Well, people that have already bought Kanye’s new album from Tidal have been demanding refunds since yesterday because they’ve yet to receive it due to a glitch in their sysyem. Tidal’s twitter is filled with angry complaints.

    • swanspirit says:

      Jayne West is a disgusting waste .

  15. votermom says:

  16. jennifer lyn says:

    The hypocrisy of all this kills me. First, and this is a direct shout out to the failed and flawed pseudo-feminists Gloria S., Hillary C., and every other woman who sold out women to blacks in the 1960’s when we still had hope (and don’t forget the sell out to Hef either), if Kanye was white and Swift was black the BLM a..wipes would own the music industry. But, Kanye is black so he can talk about having sex with white woman in derogatory way and it is oh-so-cool. Anyone who thinks blacks are maligned by the press or ignored by the law remember that the original n..gers are women and always have been and always will be because we are too stupid to realize that you don’t win a fight, or own a movement, if you allow yourself to be divided and conquered. Women got the vote last, could be legally beaten the longest, and are still able to be splayed, displayed, pissed on, and killed in the name of advertising or sex and you don’t hear a f…ing boo from these so-called feminists. My background, for the record, is that I was once named youngest sexual deviancy expert in country by U. of Chicago AND I have a law degree and I am not an idiot. Second, and this is a direct shout out to the alleged law, if a black liberal SC justice was killed on a ranch in Texas we would have a 500 medical examiners, a couple of autopsies, and a movie already in the works.

    Dangerous times we are living in. Very very dangerous times. But honestly the hypocrisy makes me sick.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Yeah, I have that feeling I’m living in a Mafia movie. Nothing to see here, move along, something like that. Scalia was standing in the way of some popular Obama legacy items like abortion, climate change and racist issues. It’s the way they handle those pesky opposers in Chicagoland.

  17. 1539days says:

    On the whole primary thing. This is where direct democracy from the Progressive Era changed a corrupt process into a more corrupt process. Each party used to choose a candidate from extraordinary politicians in their ranks. Of course, sometimes they weren’t that extraordinary. Primary races for national candidates were pushed by progressives to give voters a choice of candidates.

    That usually doesn’t work because a lot of money goes into the primaries. The schedule front loads delegates so that 1/3 of the country effectively doesn’t get a choice. Plus, states have to have special primaries (unless they have caucuses, which are worse) that cost money so two parties can manipulate a convention.

    I prefer an instant runoff / jungle primary. Everyone with a minimum number of signatures go on the ballot. Everyone gets 2 votes. The two highest vote totals run in the general election.

    • DandyTIger says:

      One big primary of all states, and maybe some runoff process would be much better. What a circus. In the end, the parties are private clubs, so they can do anything they want.

  18. DeniseVB says:

    Heh. h/t Janice at MOTUS

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Fox just announced a Trump press conference coming up soon. Last minute thing, wasn’t on his schedule. Hmmm?

  20. Venus says:

    Look how cute, Sander supports are outraged and revolting against the Dem superdelegates system. Deja vu all over again.
    Good luck with that, kids!


  21. DeniseVB says:

    This Trump presser is amazing and he’s having the time of his life. Taking about a question a minute, he’s a one man rapid response team LOL !

  22. taw46 says:

    Trump’s press conference ended, MSNBC carried the entire thing.

  23. taw46 says:

    Twitter was pissed that Trump was able to call a press conference and get all that publicity for free. Then there were those that think Trump’s internals show him performing poorly, and that is why he did this.

  24. driguana says:

    How well I remember that ad. I also graduated from high school in ’64 and went on to college from ’64-68 at Ohio U in Athens…wow, those were turbulent times with all riots and the SDS and Weather Underground all over our campuses…and the shooting later on at Kent State. I did a very brief stint working for Bobby Kennedy but after his demise I kind of threw my hands up regarding politics. Voted for Hubert Humphrey in ’68 and joined the Peace Corps…most people don’t know this but the Peace Corps was actually Hubert’s original idea that Kennedy got all the credit for…Humphrey introduced the first bill to create a PC in 1957 but it was established under Kennedy in 1960. Politics always seemed like such a crooked path to me….still does. Some things don’t change.

    • Jadzia says:

      I like hearing these stories about the ’60s. My mom taught junior high in a not-great part of Gary, Indiana, and she had some good stories. I’m not sure my dad remembers much of that decade.

  25. Myiq2xu says:

  26. Dora says:

    Yippee Doo!

  27. leslie says:

    I don’t know about you, but I often read Matt Walsh. I find him to be clear, honest, insightful, and, just good to read. The link is to something he wrote today about the way people felt about (hated) Justice Scalia, his life, his death, his replacement, and how “If the Republicans Fail in the Fight over Scalia’s Replacement” they (the Rs) will lose him.
    About the liberals’ response to the death of Antonin Scalia:

    “It was an insane, subhuman display. Evil, and proudly so. Another moment — one of many, often provided by leftists — that made me utterly ashamed of what this country has become.”


    • lyn says:

      They should keep their hate and bigotry to themselves.

    • taw46 says:

      He certainly captured the response to Justice Scalia’s death. I have been appalled for two days, reading some of the comments. Even on WaPo, just hateful and evil. To say that about anyone after their death, but especially such a man as Scalia, beloved by all who knew him. And only because he had a different opinion from theirs.

      My eyes were opened in 2008, when I saw all the hatred. I could never be a democrat again. I know the republicans are not perfect, but I just don’t see that kind of wholesale nastiness on their side. What happened to our country?

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