What Is With All The Trumpophobia?

I understand why some people oppose Donald Trump. I have a few issues with him myself. But doesn’t it seem that some of the stuff being said is a tad . . . over the top?

CNN commentator: Media will share blame when Trump ‘institutes internment camps’

As Donald Trump added to his delegate total on Saturday with primary and caucus victories in Louisiana and Kentucky, CNN commentator Sally Kohn offered a grim forecast of a Trump presidency — and suggested the media will be culpable.

“There is a fine line between covering a candidate and amplifying a candidate,” Kohn, a progressive activist, said during the cable channel’s coverage of Saturday voting. “And I’m sorry, but, yes, Donald Trump may be the Republican front-runner, I still think we’re giving him way too much attention in proportion to the other candidates who also had victories to celebrate tonight. I’m worried. When he institutes internment camps and suspends habeas [corpus], we’ll all look back and feel pretty bad.”

But wait! There’s more!

Holocaust survivor slams Trump’s ‘Heil Hitler’ salute: ‘He’s asking them to swear allegiance to him’

olocaust survivor and longtime watchdog of right-wing extremist groups said Donald Trump is playing a dangerous game by leading followers in a Nazi-style pledge.

Abraham Foxman, the former director of the Anti-Defamation League, harshly criticized the Republican presidential candidate for asking supporters to raise their right hands in salute and promise to vote for him in the Florida primary election, reported the Times of Israel.

“As a Jew who survived the Holocaust, to see an audience of thousands of people raising their hands in what looks like the ‘Heil Hitler’ salute is about as offensive, obnoxious and disgusting as anything I thought I would ever witness in the United States of America,” said Foxman, who was born in Poland in 1940 and was saved from the Nazis by his Catholic nanny.

He told the newspaper that the gesture’s symbolism was obvious and troubling.

“It is a fascist gesture,” Foxman said. “He is smart enough — he always tells us how smart he is — to know the images that this evokes. Instead of asking his audience to pledge allegiance to the United States of America, which in itself would be a little bizarre, he’s asking them to swear allegiance to him.”

The Nazi Party adopted the stiff-armed salute to signal obedience to leader Adolph Hitler, and it’s still used today by right-wing extremists.

“We’ve seen this sort of thing at rallies of neo-Nazis. We’ve seen it at rallies of white supremacists. But to see it at a rally for a legitimate candidate for the presidency of the United States is outrageous,” Foxman said.

It would indeed be outrageous, if they were doing a Nazi salute. But they’re not. Not even close.

This election hasn’t reached peak stupid, but it’s getting closer every day.

There will be some election returns tonight, along with Very Serious People telling us What It All Means.

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142 Responses to What Is With All The Trumpophobia?

  1. elliesmom says:

    I can handle a lot of the idiocy surrounding Trump, but the Donald as Hitler is nuts. The fascist authoritarians are the Democrats. Say he’s rude, say he’s vulgar, say he’s all over the place in his politics, and I’ll listen. Start in on the Nazi stuff, and I tune you out.

  2. Myiq2xu says:

    Good Read:

    A few nights ago, I received a mass email from the comedian Louis C.K. on the release of his new online comedy show. At the very end of the email was a short political statement showing off an unoriginal train of thought.

    “Please stop it with voting for Trump,” it said. “It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the ’30s. Do you think they saw the s— coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb-over who would say anything at all.”

    I don’t mind a comedian expressing his political views to the masses, and God knows I am no fan of Trump, but invoking Hitler in this way is both insensitive and disrespectful.

    It is strange, really, because there are so many ways to incriminate Trump without resorting to this specific imagery: his policies or his lack thereof, his personality, or even his extraordinary passion for putting his name on inanimate objects.

    Yet the word of the day is Hitler, and Louis C.K. is far from alone in needing a lesson in history and basic respect.

    Comparing Trump to Hitler has become very popular, a meme growing along with the candidate’s unexpected rise in the polls. This week, I saw a picture from a campaign event showing Trump supporters doing what with a lot of imagination could be interpreted as a Nazi salute. Those posting it gleefully on social media sites said it was yet more proof of Trump’s uncanny resemblance to the German despot.

    What I find equally odd is that Jewish organizations and individuals have been remarkably compliant in this, neither issuing statements in protest nor decrying what is obviously an inflation in terms and a devaluing of an unprecedented historical trauma. I seriously doubt that the people using this comparison for effect actually believe that a Trump presidency would result in the mass murder of an entire group of people, or that he is driven by hatred for one single ethnic minority. Trump is, in my opinion, a potentially dangerous man. But Hitler? No. Mass murderer? Not a chance. Not only should we demand that the public figures drawing these parallels apologize to the Jewish people for minimizing the Holocaust, but we should also expect of the general public that it does not need such a crude comparison to see and understand the obvious flaws of this candidate.

    Louis C.K. wrote what he did because it was simple and effective. But it was very far from true. It was intellectually lazy and dishonest and an insult to me as a Jew and to my entire people.

    So, Louis C.K., do you know who is like Hitler? Hitler. Do you know who should be referred to as Hitler? Hitler. Using any other rule of thumb when it comes to dropping the H-word means minimizing the murder of 6 million Jews and the history, wounds and memories of an entire people. Unless Trump plans, organizes and executes the extinction of an entire people in an industrial manner, you should not compare the two. There are many brands of crazy in this world and many kinds of bad, but thank God so far no one has lived up to the atrocities of Hitler, and even drawing this parallel is a mind-boggling insult.

    As Jews, we need to stop being the handy example, and instead make an example of those using us and our sorrows for sound bites and effect. There are not many steps between minimizing the Holocaust to denying it entirely, and we need to clamp down on those acting as if Hitler is just another word.

    Trump is not Hitler, nor is he even “like” Hitler, because nothing on this earth is. Donald Trump is like Donald Trump, and in my opinion that is plenty bad enough.

  3. taw46 says:

    In The Circus clip, one man says he spends a lot of time traveling around the world and Trump is a laghingstock, that the world is at peace with Hillary Clinton. Maybe he should some spend time traveling around the United States.

  4. 1539days says:

    One of my problems is that Donald Trump (or Bernie Sanders) supporters have given up on “the system.” One wants to make changes by personal edict, the other by controlling every aspect of life. Revolutions are exciting, but they are also unpredictable. You could have an American Revolution where great men create a new system of government or you could have a French Revolution where intellectuals kill the citizens when they run out of important people to overthrow.

    • swanspirit says:

      I think they have given up on the system because it is broken beyond fixing it, doesn’t work for anyone but the incredibly richh, and millions of people are suffering because it is broken.
      So now we are using the system the way it was meant to be used, and people in power are frightened.

      • Jadzia says:

        Exactly. I think it was here that somebody posted the Rand study showing that the one thing that Trump supporters had in common (ie, cutting across all demographics) was essentially that they felt powerless and like nobody listened to them. In far, far, far higher numbers than among the supporters of any other candidate. THAT is the Trump story that I would like to see blasted all over the media, because it’s really, really important.

        • 1539days says:

          Voting out of a sense of powerlessness is also weird to me. Trump has been advocating a plan of Un-Omamaing the country by essentially making deals and Executive Orders to counteract what Obama did. The end is desirable, the means are not. His claims are literally unbelievable to me.

          • swanspirit says:

            Voting, or acting out of a sense of powerlessness is how this country got started. They called it taxation without representation.

          • 49erDweet says:

            I think, days, you may be taking T too literally. That he says those things is bodacious enough. He’s proven his acumen and ability as a businessman enough for most folks to just relish his talking points. Nobody expect’s if he’s elected he’s gonna bobble-head it.
            He’s jabbing the establishment GOP (and Dems) in the eye. The crowd cheers him on because they love to see the tables turned on the PTB.. It’s the ‘Olympic Auditorium wrestling’ formula from the old b & w TV days.

          • Jadzia says:

            Interesting, I think the candidate who attracted the second-highest number of voters who feel powerless was Sanders.

            I just think this is a really important issue regardless of whether you love or hate Trump, love or hate Sanders. When you have huge swaths of the electorate feeling like they have no say, it’s hard to say that you live in a democracy.

    • taw46 says:

      The people are following the system, they are voting. It is the elites who have started a revolution. They are the ones going outside of the system to get what they want, by ignoring the voters.

    • Lulu says:

      Our “system” has been severely perverted. Laws are enforced selectively by elites to their own benefit and to the detriment of everyone else. Obama has made “ruling” by edict the norm to the point that courts are full of challenges to his edicts because of his inability to work with congress to get “deals” . You are projecting onto candidate Trump what Obama has been doing for seven years. Obama said he was going to “transform” the country so is that not revolutionary but rather a socially acceptable elite form of it without consent of the governed that you approve and overlook? Trump has said he will make “deals”. Deals are compromises. It is the sausage making of legislating for governing. You allude to the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution. What on earth makes you think that Trump or Sanders voters would result to violence? Some nutters on Twitter? I get that you really, really do not like Trump and that he does not appeal to your great erudition. Your claims that Trump and Sanders supporters have given up on the system is disingenuous. They are VOTING. And assembling in great numbers. These most fundamental functions and rights of our system. One person one vote. Not voting is giving up on the system. Not assembling is giving up on our system. Remove the filter of the personalities you find so offensive and LOOK at what is happening.

  5. swanspirit says:

    “All he has going for him is a lot of votes” I can’t even.

  6. DandyTIger says:

    To echo FormerlyFormer’s linked tweet earlier today, Happy International Upper Class Leftist White Women’s Day!!” 🙂

  7. DandyTIger says:

    When you aren’t seeing comments from the Klown for a while, check under the bed…

  8. taw46 says:

    Ace has a post up showing a big drop in Trump’s numbers. If true, looks like the elites won. Look out Cruz, you are probably next.

    ABC National Poll: Trump Still Leads, But His Support Declines While Everyone Else’s Rises


  9. Bernie got served by some random Romanian.

  10. Myiq2xu says:

  11. DeniseVB says:

    I guess I’m not supporting Trump anymore, CNN’s Fareed Zakaria said I was like an Islamic Terrorist ! (snort).


  12. Anyone voting for anyone other than Little Marco is STOOPID and NOT CONSERVATIVE, ya’ll. Whether Trump wins or Cruz wins, I’m enjoying the buttheart from the worshippers of the Anointed One, Rightful Heir. 😀 😀

  13. DandyTIger says:

    Baby’s First Doctor Visit

    A woman and a baby were in the doctor’s examining room,
    waiting for the doctor to come in for the baby’s first exam.

    The doctor arrived, and examined the baby, checked his weight, and being a little concerned, asked if the baby was breast-fed or bottle-fed.
    ‘Breast-fed,’ she replied.

    ‘Well, strip down to your waist,’ the doctor ordered.

    She did. He pinched her nipples, pressed, kneaded, and rubbed both breasts for a while in a very professional and detailed examination.

    Motioning to her to get dressed, the doctor said,
    ‘No wonder this baby is underweight. You don’t have any milk.’

    ‘I know,’ she said, ‘I’m his Grandma, but I’m glad I came.’

  14. taw46 says:

    MS for Trump.

  15. Dora says:

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s not unusual for the current First Lady to attend the funeral of a former First Lady, but the optics of where Obama is going instead aren’t great.

      • Lulu says:

        My daughter said it has turned into a gathering of old douchebags. And people selling douchebag merchandise to the old douchebags.


  17. taw46 says:

    Trump has a press conference at 9:00. MSNBC just showed a table in the room. On the table we have Trump wine, Trump water, and Trump steaks. Gotta love that man.

  18. Dora says:

  19. I admit I could be totally wrong about this, but, here’s my suspicion…

    Donald Trump represents a business class that is seeking to capture the regulatory capture. They are not of Wall Street (even though they profit from it), and they see this big, shiny machine that Wall Street has build with the Uniparty and they think they could do better for their business/industry/market if they own it. This is how a Xanatos Gambit works (h/t to Formerly Former). Win/Win.

    These guys represented by Team Trump could make more money by owning the apparatus, or they could keep making money by just being part of it. But Wall Street is fighting tooth and nail, because they know what they stand to lose. They won’t own shit with a Trump admin. It’s really an audacious move if this is his agenda. And Wall Street & the Uniparty/MSM nexus have teamed up here recently because suddenly this is not that funny anymore if he could win. Now they know this is a hostile takeover.

    As for me, I still won’t give shit about taking it up the ass. I’ma take it anyway you look at it, and I just want to enjoy the view of exploding heads if I have to live life bent over something. Sort of like Kingsman.

    PS: I fucking hate Donna Brazile’s purple ass hair.

    • swanspirit says:

      I hate her for more than her hair.

    • taw46 says:

      Someone I follow on Twitter has said since last summer that this is a battle by the elites for control. Trump’s group overthrowing Warren Buffett and his group, because they have been shut out of the money. That elites will always control, have always done so. But this group probably better than the current group. All fascinating.

    • I kind of agree with that. I’m sure Trump has backers in the shadows, and I have no illusions that the country isn’t controlled, always, by those with more money and power than I or any voter.

      But if the group trying to take over from the open-borders crowd are sorta-kinda patriots who actually have some affection for the US of A, more power to them, IMO. Better them than the banksters who’ve been running the show.

      If I have to choose between American corporate industrialists and global financiers, I’ll pick the former, frankly.

    • Venus says:

      I hate her purple hair too — but I’ve actually seen her in real life and she’s much more attractive in person than she looks on TV.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Well Mitt does know a thing or two about hostile takeovers.

      Poor Donna. Now she is a walking add for a Walgreens and Medicare Part D.

  20. This. This attitude right here is the reason “Why Trump?” How dare icky old useless people of whom we don’t approve be voting.

  21. elliesmom says:

    It looks like Rubio will be below the threshold to pick up delegates in MI and MS. I might still be awake for Idaho, but Hawaii will be past my bedtime.

  22. DeniseVB says:

    I stuck an Open Thread in the barn for an early a.m launch. With hopes I’m UP before it hits 😛

  23. Dora says:

  24. This. I’m not anti-immigrant. At all. But when a culture is SCREAMING at you that this is more and faster than we can assimilate comfortably, it’s time to slow this shit down.

  25. And he’s still owning it.

  26. More superiority.

  27. taw46 says:

    Trump was good tonight. He has been listening to someone, it worked. Hope he stays this way for the debate.

  28. Dora says:

  29. LMAO! Probably true.

  30. taw46 says:

  31. The smart set are all alternately laughing at the peasantry or getting the vapors over this. Guess what? Your average voter thinks it’s a hoot that he says it out loud.

    • The problem with bristling at the mocking of the intelligentsia is that our intelligentsia have gaily run our country into the ground. So no one cares if they are mocked, and may frankly enjoy it.

  32. DandyTIger says:

    I’m waiting for the Rubio victory speech. 🙂

  33. Venus says:

    Rubio SHUT OUT of delegates in MS & MI!

    BWAHAHAHAHA — I love that!

    Now the pundits will tell us why this wasn’t really as good a night for Trump as it might appear. I love their elite tears.

  34. Myiq2xu says:

  35. DandyTIger says:

    Bernie has MI. Best election ever.

  36. Roger Simon – one of the few Hollywood types who is no dummy.

  37. I’m dying. Dying. 😀

  38. Venus says:

  39. There appears to be at least ONE smart pundit out there:

    • Venus says:

      Well, if they could just extract their heads from their asses, it wouldn’t be so hard.

      Maybe Ex-Lax.

  40. Venus says:

    wow — Neil Bush and some of the Romney peeps have joined the Cruz campaign. He’s such an outsider. /eye roll.

    Considering Jeb! and Romney’s performances this doesn’t bode well for the Cruz campaign.

  41. Venus says:

  42. mothy67, says:

    What a wonderful day. Baby brat’s Easter present arrived. I spent hours making the campiest wrapping ever. She got home at 315. I said this time you wait until Easter. Yeah sure 322 my master piece was on the floor and icky was playing piano. I have no duties on Friday nights so I popped open a bottle of Pinot Grigio the another one. School night usually only one urchin comes over afterwards. Nice weather so four of the Pretty Little Liars came by. I played horse forctwo hours. I wasn’t watching them. 9 o’clock I was ready to watch the results. Popped open another bottle of wine. Fell fastcasleep. Woke up at 1230 read the returns. Started watching Orphan Black. I saw it years ago but Season 3 streams Amazon in two weeks. It is such a fun show and Paul is so handsome. Those Canadian boys build a lot of lower body strength. Must be hockey. So I find a note on my door reading thanks I only despise you by half. That’s my girl no I love you with little heart shapes nope I despise you by half.

  43. I’ve little doubt that the school was basically just a real estate cheesy self-help course. But people rating the course excellent, then jumping on a lawsuit when they smell money, doesn’t make me feel sorry for them.

    • mothy67, says:

      I think any school that permits an 18 year old to begin amassing massive debt to study Women’s Studies, LGBTQ RSVP studies is committing fraud. You can go to the library and find I hate straight white men section. Camille Paglia is available everywhere.

    • mothy67, says:

      My older brother has one child, a son, he went to California State College outside of Pittsburgh. My brother paid cash and he lived on campus. When I went to college at Purdue my dorm was a converted 1960’s military type housing. 10 rooms 20 guys a common room and a central dining hall. We bonded in bunk beds. Sat up late night in the common room. My nephew’s dorm was a huge suite. He had his own room, his own bath a shared full kitchen. No wetting towels and taping vents to smoke pot. No going in a group to eat in the cafeteria. No sitting up all night talking in common room. I loved those days. We would steal cafeteria trays and use them as sleds. I so used a coat hanger stoned out of my mind to steal pretzels from a vending machine. I got caught check kiting freshman year. I had no idea what check kiting was. I had a full scholarship but for some reasonthe room and board part was held up. I paid with all my savings and expected a check. So I would go to the student union write a check for 25 next day write a check for 30 deposit 25, 5 dollars went a long way back then. Next day write a check for 35 deposit 30 on and on for months. I screwed up because when I deposited my refund I thought it was money in the bank. The check had not cleared and I had not made a deposit. I was 18 had no idea I was committing a crime. Bank guy gave me 48 hrs to make it right.
      My brother paid 6,000 a semester for my nephew to live on campus. He had five roommates. That is 60,000 a year. Public universities should not be involved in real estate. Dorms at public schools should be basic not luxury suites. Get to know each other you are 18 discover life. Not sit in an apartment playing xbox.
      I so want my baby to go to Purdue. I want her to spend four years learning a real skill and also about people. I want her to have The Big Chill and St. Elmo’s Fire. I would not want her to go to an elitist school. I am so prepped for scholarships. She takes archery!!! Rarely gets a B on a test and when she does I cannot console her. My job is to insure/ensure she can persue her dreams. I am looking at buying a trailer right now outside of West Lafayette Indiana. I want to live in a trailer or a house boat. I have no desire to own a home. Hot water tanks, roof washers dryers, lawns. Not my thing. Give me small and simple. My annoying pile I will hold onto until she goes to college. I am going to hold on to it until she goes to college. My parents will most likely be dead in eight years if not they can live in a trailer with me. My bills for my house are insane.

  44. mothy67, says:

    The guy playing Paul would have been a better Batman than ben AFLAC. He is agonizingly boring and thinks so highly of himself. He and that guy from ER that married some rights attorney also played Batman are so in love with themselves its gross. Ive always thought the same thing about obama and now Narco Rubmeo. Vanity for a woman , in my eyes, can be attractive. A guy doing it is off setting. Confidence is infinitely more attractive than shaped eyebrows. Metro sexuals reek of self love.

  45. My favorite tweet of the night. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  46. mothy67, says:

    Sally Kohn wants her children to be gay. She is so fucking repugnant. Makes me wretch. I loathe that there is no discussion about homosexuality. If you disaagee with born that way you are labeled as homophobe. You cannot question why. An academic is not going to tell me how I feel. In the days of my youth I read W Somerst Maughm Of Human Bondage, and DH Lawrance Sons and Lovers. Same era as The Brothers Karamozov. Three men so disparite but so alike.
    I was born a defect. Dying child over mothered dad with a James Dean complex. I should be allowed to think about why I am homosexual. I should be allowed to explore for me. Instead I am called self hating and dismissed by pros. I had to take a bus to Temple in 1987 I had two hours to kill I met this older gay man almost 30 years ago. We talked in a gay bar way back then but nothing took place. Over almost 30 years I have known him. Nothing ever happened between us. One time in the early 90’s I went home with him. No one had ever gone home with him before. I met his sister she was nuts. I spent hours with her on a deck. So broken and alone. She was an injured person unable to survive. I am an asshole but she and I became friends. Years go by I am living in New York stop by he is still there 1992 we hung out. No sex just me his sister and I on a balcony smoking cigs. I have seen him many times over decades. Last time a saw him his sister had died. She was nuts and he had been her caretaker hos whole life. She never hurt. Had he not cared she would have died in a home. He had lost his reason for being. Many times over many years I sat with his sister all night on the balconey. He is very very very rich. Been ten years since his sister died. He can pick up go go boys and be dirty old man but that’s not who he is. I know he has more than a hundred million. We have slept in the same bed many times. Not sex just wecwere drunk and you have a crazy sister. Over more than 30 years we have been friends. So random I was 18. Well he asked me to marry him. I laughed and said you are insane. He said he will put 250,000 into brats trust if I marry him. He repeatedly said no pre nup I have cared about him for decades. He loved his psychiophrinic sister she was his emotional life. Hecis so rich. But he is so alone. I am just shy of full blown nuts. He thinks he cares for me because I am not well.
    He proposed. I have to say no. What is so sad I only say no because I believe in my brat. I want her to earn it has to come from her.

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