Overnight Where Have All The Flowers Gone Open Thread!

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  1. DeniseVB says:

    8:13 pm on the eastie coast, overnight for me 🙂

  2. Ugh. It’s been a tough few days for The Donald and his fans. I’ve not tuned in as much for a couple of days, and from a distance, this looks bad. Wonder how or if our intrepid hero will make it out of this one.

    • lyn says:

      Trump Strong! He seems unfazed by all the GOP bullshit and general hate. My guess is a third party run. Pick your poison. The election of 2016 is going to be a crazy ride. It also shows how much hate Obama cultivated.

    • Venus says:

      Always darkest before the dawn.
      The lefties, GOPe, MSM and atheists are a desperate cacophony of hatred and death rattles because after WI comes NY, the east coast and Trump securing the nomination.
      It’s the final rite of passage before acceptance.

      • mothy67, says:

        Look forward to a 3rd party run. He will let loose.

        • Venus says:

          The 3rd Party run is going to be by the GOPe — ala John Anderson in 1980 after Reagan won the nomination.
          Not saying Trump = Reagan, exactly. But as far as “not establishment” and the same tactics being used against him by the GOPe to keep total control in their hands (“he’s stupid!” “he doesn’t have the temperment to be POTUS!” “do you want him near the nuclear codes? he’ll start WW3!” “he’s just an actor/reality tv show star!”) — tons of similarities.
          The GOPe will probably run Romney/Ryan as a do-over.
          Too bad. They’ll be just as ineffective against Trump as John Anderson was against Reagan.

          • lyn says:

            Great memory. I forgot about John Anderson. I hope you are right!

          • leslie says:

            The John Anderson vote was my first non-Democrat vote for POTUS. I had voted for a few other R’s and demoralized my parents when they learned I hadn’t voted a straight ticket prior to that election. But until you reminded me, I had forgotten about the specific year of the election when Anderson ran as an independent.

          • blowme0bama says:

            My lord, I’d forgotten I’d voted for Anderson in 1980. It was my first time voting.

          • lyn says:

            1980 is the year I became a Zombie Democrat; I voted for Ford in 1976.

          • Jadzia says:

            I do agree that Trump is in some ways a Reagan-ish figure. Not in terms of policy. Mostly, I think, in his appeal to the people (as opposed to the institutions) that comprise part of the Democratic Party’s traditional coalition, for example, working-class people.

      • mothy67, says:

        I love Ann, but people really hate her. My progressive frirnds sent me graphic rape stories about her. My pals are not that bad . The far left is quite warped. Something like that about meeeechelle would be apocalyptic.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      He is sucking all of the oxygen out of the room again. 😆
      He will survive 😀

    • Jadzia says:

      I’ve been checked out for a few days too — and now am wondering what happened! Like him or not, The Trump Show is a fascinating soap opera.

  3. wailuagirl says:

    what a great video DeniseVB!!

  4. Dora says:

    To all those bleeding hearts who insist we allow the Muslims, including refugees, into our country without end – they don’t want to assimilate; they want to colonize.

    Video: Muslims in NYC Say Sharia Law Supersedes the U.S. Constitution

  5. Dora says:

    It looks like ethnic cleansing is here.

    Stanford Students Demand Non-White University President, Microagression Policing

    • Anthony says:

      It’s no longer just political theater. It’s now on Broadway

      “The hottest Broadway ticket in town is shooting down accusations its casting is racist. “Hamilton” got some blowback Wednesday after releasing a cattle call for auditions with specific age and race requirements.

      “Hamilton” is “seeking NON-WHITE men and women, ages 20s to 30s, for Broadway and upcoming Tours,” the ad said.

      Why have we not heard more about this? I guess white people really don’t give a shit or feel “threatened” that their “personhood” is being marginalized. No safe spaces necessary.


      • Lulu says:

        Don’t you know that everyone born in West Indies is/was black! Just look at his portraits. Black guy. And he had great rhythm and tap danced in minstrel shows. /S

        • leslie says:

          STOP it Lulu !
          I just left a spray of coffee on my keyboard. 😀

        • Anthony says:

          I lived in the West Indies for almost 4 years. Initially, the hardest thing to accustom myself to was what I first perceived to be the ‘black/white thing’ going on among native born Jamaicans. After a little scrutiny, I learned that the divide was more about the pros and cons of the exploitation of the North Coast rather than color. Those who wanted to keep the land natural were on one side, and those who supported the hoteliers and tourist attractions were on the other. There were about equal amounts of white and black natives on both sides.

          One of the excerpts from the link really amused me because it underscores the recent government mandated appropriation of self-loathing that now signifies a “true American”:

          “Super-fan Tina Pepe, 57, of Armonk, N.Y., who’s already seen “Hamilton” twice, believes in author Lin-Manuel Miranda’s colorblind concept.

          “In an effort to be inclusive to all races, (they) may be reaching out to non-whites,” she said.

          Her son Daniel Pepe, 18, another aspiring thespian in line with her, said tough breaks are part of an actor’s life.

          “People of color don’t have enough opportunities as it is in the business,” he said. “I, as a white male, have more of a chance to get something, to get a role. I’m totally fine with it.”

          We’re so fucking stupid sometimes….

      • leslie says:

        One of the teasers that run through this reports says that “Amy Schumer left a $1000 tip” to the “Hamilton” bartenders. I wonder if she does that to all the bartenders at all the B’way productions – or only to the “tenders” at “Hamilton”. and if that is racist.

      • Jadzia says:

        What? Theater casting is the example that is used in every employment law/employment discrimination text I’ve ever used as an example of the rare situation in which employment discrimination is not really actionable. (The other example I see a lot is “wet nurse,” which seems a bit archaic.)

        • mothy67, says:

          I think controversy is that it explicitly says non-white, implying every other race is welcome. Casting for a Raisin in the Sun would specifically say black man between such and such ages. Fresh off the Boat Asian between. Non- white is racist.

          • Jadzia says:

            Yeah, i get the objection, but the court’s not going to get into the business of theater criticism, IMHO. (You know, like well, is mixed-race OK? Hiring a Japanese actor to play a Korean character? Judges fear the slippery slope, plus it’s an artistic freedom/expression issue.)

    • DandyTIger says:

      I’m embarrassed for my school. But not shocked. Sadly.

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Wish there were more of these types of “reports” 😉

  7. Kathy says:

    This political season has become ‘the perfect storm.’ I don’t comment often..seems like I’m running around too much but I check in here every day. Had decided that I wouldn’t become too invested in a candidate so the let down wouldn’t be so crushing again. But the anti-Trump hysteria is like nothing I have ever seen. Every four years the media picks the candidate they want and begin full on brain washing. Am so angry and hoping that enough people can see through it this time to spit in their faces.

    • Lulu says:

      The amount of money involved to finish off the rapine of the United States is unbelievably large. It is a little further along in Europe but the same forces are at work. They are the ultimate thieves and will protect what they have done at any costs which we are seeing play out. I’m surprised they are not better at it and are so transparent. The best and the brightest they are not.

      • leslie says:

        Lulu, Next time use “plunder”. I’m tired of trying to keep up with your advanced vocabulary. /s

      • taw46 says:

        Trump needs to focus more on this. He does to some extent, but says other countries are ripping us off. Needs to start talking more about the oligarchs and what they are doing.

        • leslie says:

          Somebody left a link to conservative treehouse below, that focuses on TPP and TPA and Wall St and the CoC and Cruz, Walker, etc who are/were pushing this plan.

          If Trump would at least explain or describe how TPP would damage and ultimately destroy our economy, job markets, and our future as a robust nation, I think he could make his points and gain some newfound support.

          Trump should give prepared/organized speeches rather than stream-of-consciousness talks in his fight for this job. (It is difficult for me to listen to him and I usually turn off the sound because he doesn’t appear organized and competent in front of crowds.) He is playing on emotions rather than engaging people’s intelligence. So, the fact that he knows what he is talking about, gets lost in the crowds’ reactions to his appeal to their passion.

          I believe this is at least one of the reasons why Trump supporters are maligned by the “superior intelligence” of those who oppose Trump. I also believe this is the greatest reason. The people I know who are opposed to Trump smugly think they are of “above average” intelligence and Trump supporters are not. They see only the emotional reactions. If they heard structured, prepared speeches (I know, I know. He’d sound like the *others*) they might be persuaded to think more than once about voting Cruz, or Kasich or anyone else.

          (Please pardon my own stream of consciousness here. I need a good speech writer.)

          • Somebody says:

            No need to pardon anything Leslie, you are absolutely correct. I actually don’t think at this point Trump will sound just like all the others.

            Trump in fact needs a good speech writer, someone that can work with him and put his ideas into cogent talking points. If he had not only a speech writer, but some policy wonks working with him then he could fill in some details, yet stay completely on his messages of immigration, trade and taxes. I honestly don’t think he will sound like all the others because his platforms on those issues, especially on trade are different from the other candidates.

            If Trump could take the story of Harley Davidson, or any company and then use it in his stump speeches to point out where he stands as opposed to his opponents…..he’d clean house.

          • leslie says:

            Thanks, Somebody.
            If you think about Nabisco and Caterpillar or John Deere – I don’t remember which – and the myriad others that have made plans to move, the Harley Davidson (HOG on the NYSE as they repeatedly told us in the article) wouldn’t seem such an isolated story. In fact, Ford Auto changed their plans to move their plant out of the country after Trump pointed out that situation.
            So I agree with your thoughts that “he’d clean house”.
            I also agree that his positions would separate him from the others. I just wish he’d change his presentation sooner rather than later.

          • Somebody says:

            Maybe we should all write little speeches for him and send to his campaign. Maybe email them to his children or something…….you never know, LOL!

            What Trump needs is a Peggy Noonan type, but not her. Someone that can sit down with him, take his thoughts and his words and put them together for him and elevate the level of his rallies and interviews.

            I will say though, if Trump had started out like that I don’t think he’d be where he is today in this race. One of the things people like is his authenticity. Trump has proven that he can keep that authenticity even when going off a teleprompter, as he did at AIPAC. He still added in a few ad libs to his written speech.

            It’s time for him to pivot toward some of the more traditional campaign strategies, but while doing so find a way to still be who he is.

          • leslie says:

            Yes. He has this huuuge following because of who he is. He’ll not change, I’m sure. But the organization of his positions into talking points that he hits in his appearances would, I think. save him some time and energy, and might also lend some (dare I say it) gravitas to those appearances without looking programmed.

          • taw46 says:

            I agree with both of you, but maybe it doesn’t have to be a full-blown speech. Help him organize his thoughts into talking points, which he hits at every rally. What is happening to our country and why, what he wants to do and why. Start out with this everytime. The rest of the rally, Trump can be Trump.

          • leslie says:


          • Jadzia says:

            Forget TPP, I’m still pissed about NAFTA. (“Free Canada–Trade Mulroney”–why didn’t we ever get any good bumper stickers like that one?)

          • leslie says:


    • lyn says:

      Anti-Trump hysteria is right! Those people were easily brainwashed. Has anyone really justified their Trump hate? Why do the intolerants love Bernie but hate Trump? I think Trump is the scapegoat for people who hate themselves because of the white privilege, white supremacy and white guilt garbage they feed on.

      • Somebody says:

        I think there is more to it than that. The media across the board has been very anti-Trump. My mother is a classic example, from early on she has referred to Trump as a goon and other things. She can’t explain to me why she hates Trump so much, what positions he’s taken that she is so opposed to. Yet she thinks Trump must be stopped at all costs, even if that means usurping the votes of millions of people. Mind you she certainly didn’t vote for Obama, but she accepted the outcome of the elections whereas with Trump she’s willing to let party leaders overturn election results……as long as it stops Trump.

        Now I can have a conversation with my mother about say immigration and she’ll agree we need to secure our borders, blah, blah. We can have a conversation about the economy or trade or whatever and she’ll agree with positions Trump has taken provided his name isn’t mentioned. They just did a poll about that, some people have a visceral reaction to Trump. Lay out his statements or policies they agree 100% with them, but tell them the ideas are Trump’s and they oppose them. For some people if Trump said the sun rises in the east they’d insist he’s a liar and it rises in the west or that it would be better for the world if the sun rose in the west. There was a video floating around where someone took an interview with Trump and dubbed over it perfectly a guy with a British accent. I have to tell you, I liked the British accent Trump a lot better, LOL!!

        My mom watched Fox news all day and all night. She wakes up with it and goes to bed with it. There is absolutely no convincing her that Trump isn’t horrible and his election would be the end of our country as we know it…….once again, she didn’t feel that way about Obama.

        My son knows a lot of Bernie fans and if they’re under about 30 to a person they detest Trump. They can’t tell you why they just do. Even though a lot of things Bernie talks about Trump talks about, like trade, Wall Street and cronyism. Once again it’s a visceral reaction programmed in large part by the media and that is going to be really tough for Trump to overcome. It’s not impossible, but he needs to work on that like yesterday.

        • Somebody says:

          My mom watches Fox news not watched Fox news…….as in it’s still on 24/7 at her house.

          • lyn says:

            Somebody: Thanks for taking the time on your thorough analysis of why people respond negatively to Trump!

  8. Venus says:

    Trump says people who break law should be punished. GOPe, Dems and MSM loose their minds because the hypothetical involved abortion.

    I’m so sick of this shit.
    Is this current crucifixion of Trump worse than the one re: “Mexican rapists” or “GWB lied” or “John McCain not a hero”? Because it’s hard to differentiate the vitriol and hysteria.

    Literally every establishment goon is lined up against Trump and somehow the #NeverTrumps think this is the *right* side to be on? Did the 2008 and 2012 teach them nothing? Let me make it as plain as I can for you:

    The establishment does not give a shit about you and is using you.

    I have said from the beginning I’d vote for Trump as an FU to the establishment — this rank hypocrisy, hysteria and stupidity has convinced me I’m right to do so.

    The b.s. Marquette poll (of Milwaukee and Madison, but pushed as a “state-wide” poll with a 5.8% MOE) has the #NeverTrump fools supporting the establishment all excited. Well, with the Governor (Scott Walker), the RNC chair (Reince Preibus) and speaker of the house (Paul Ryan) all behind him, Cruz really should “win” WI. But (1) WI is WTA by *district* (8 districts, 3 delegates each) and (2) 18 delegates for overall winner. Cruz *has* to win WI to help prevent Trump reach 1237 — Trump doesn’t. He can still get 1237 without “winning” WI.

    But that doesn’t matter to the #NeverTrumps — they don’t care who gets the nomination as long as it is not Trump. They’re sole objective is to disenfranchise the rube Trump voters and ensure that the GOPe anoints the nominee. They are *exactly* like the Obots from 2008 screaming about the RULZ!! with the exception that the RNC doesn’t have superdelegates to assist them in the coronation of their chosen candidate.

    • Anthony says:

      Re: abortion – I’ve been under the impression that the stare decisis policy guarantees that Roe v Wade can never be overturned. Yet, people are losing it every election cycle when the MSM or Uniparty gins up the rhetoric on social issues. I’m not an attorney. Does stare decisis protect Roe v Wade from being overturned?

      • Somebody says:

        I’m not an attorney, but I don’t think any law or ruling is ever set in stone. If they were then we’d still have slavery.

        Times change, people change, attitudes change. Look at the gay marriage issue.

        I think the pro-life people go about their argument all wrong, they should learn from the left……but they never will. The pro-life people have an all or nothing attitude. Instead they should approach it one step at a time. They should go full Alinsky on late term abortions and infanticide, polarize and personalize the issue. Medical technology and knowledge on the developing fetus has come light years since Roe V Wade. The vast majority of Americans are appalled by late term abortions, instead of focusing on that the pro-life people continue to push for a ban on all abortions. Hell Europe is far more liberal on social issues than the US generally speaking, yet our abortion laws are more liberal…….why because as more information became available about the developing fetus Europe changed their laws.

        Newt Gingrich is an ass, but he’s correct when he says republicans fight the abortion battle all wrong.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Roe v. Wade decriminalized abortion which I was fine with, just not fine with paying for it via PP grants with my tax money, that the PPPac donates back to Democrats.

        • Anthony says:

          FTR, I think abortion should be a decision made between a woman and her conscience; nobody else. I’m with you on the funding.

      • Venus says:

        Not a guarantee but makes it extremely unlikely. There would have to be such an extreme shift in the country ala Brown v. Board of Ed. (desegregation of schools) or Plessy v. Ferguson ( separate buy equal) to make that happen though.
        And I don’t see this country becomes so rapidly pro-life/anti-abortion to the extent the court would feel the need to disregard precedent and overturn Roe, as they did in the 2 race based cases I pointed to above.

        • Anthony says:

          Thanks, Venus. That’s what I gleaned from the article from the EPPC link I posted with my question http://eppc.org/publications/abortion-and-precedent/

          In 2008 I heard an interview with Justice Scalia (who is not exactly a proponent of Roe v Wade) where he explained that stare decisis all but guarantees that Roe v Wade could never be overturned. I found that odd coming from him, and then discarded his perspective because he was using that interview to discredit the fear that the Dems (during that election cycle) were trying to instill among their constituents as a motivation to vote.

          I did a little research on stare decisis, and found myself agreeing that it would indeed be a losing battle for anyone who tried to overturn Roe. A law supporting woman’s right to choose is a far cry from a law that upholds the constitutionality of a law that requires racial segregation. One is a law that provides freedom of choice, the other a law that would have perpetuated division based on skin color.

          Had this been a discussion on the general protections and limitations of stare decisis, I would of course believe otherwise. Thanks again!

          • Venus says:

            Contrary to popular (MSM) opinion, Scalia was an extremely smart man and was *honest* to the extent that he decided matters based on principles of jurisprudence that he ascribed to. That doesn’t mean others have to *agree* with his judicial philosophy, but he wasn’t just a hack. 🙂

          • Anthony says:

            I hope I didn’t give you the impression that I thought he was a hack. Far from it, and I agree with your assessment of him. I simply am not as dogmatically conservative as he on social issues. Hearing him assure everyone that Roe could most likely NEVER be overturned caught my ear, and made me learn about how stare decisis could indeed protect it.

          • Venus says:

            You must certainly did not give me that impression — I was writing generally.

          • Somebody says:

            I would imagine a full frontal assault on Roe V Wade being successful is highly unlikely. However I think it’s entirely possible to see something come from a different direction that would then impact Roe V Wade.

            As an example an appeal by Kermit Gosnell or a similar defendant. Another possibility would be a defendant charged in a state that allows charges for harm or death to an unborn child. Scott Peterson for example was charged with double homicide. What if there were a case where a drunk hit a pregnant woman, she survived but lost her baby? My middle grandchild was born severely premature most likely as the result of a car accident, as well as some other factors, thankfully she survived. What if an unborn child didn’t survive and the drunk driver was charged with vehicular homicide of the unborn child? I could see the drunk driver appealing that. In a lot of states a pregnant woman can be charged with child abuse for drinking alcohol or doing drugs during pregnancy. There are a variety of possible type cases.

            If somehow a case like that makes it to SCOTUS one day, then SCOTUS would necessarily have a debate about whether the unborn child has rights and/or possibly when does life begin. Potentially where do the rights of the mother end and those of the child begin??? Say the mother’s right to an abortion as in a Gosnell type case her desire to end that pregnancy at all costs where do her desires/rights end and the baby’s rights begin?? Where does a mother’s rights to do something during pregnancy that is harmful to the developing fetus end?? Her body, her choice, right? In the case of the drunk driver is it murder?? If it is murder then why isn’t abortion???

            SCOTUS is very careful what cases they hear, especially this court. John Roberts has refused a lot of cases that probably should have been heard. One day in the future though a case may come before the court that forces them to address some uncomfortable issues that would impact at least late term abortions.

            I’m certainly not an attorney and I wouldn’t begin to think I was in any way smarter than Scalia for goodness sakes……it’s just never say never. Yes segregation and freedom of choice are not exact parallels. There are however kind of parallels in so far as knowledge and opinions change. At one point segregation was the norm, beliefs and attitudes toward people of color were very different than today, very different. Knowledge about the development of the unborn child has come light years since Roe V Wade. Neonatal medical care has also come light years, babies as early as 20 weeks can now survive outside the womb. I think it is entirely possible that one day a case may come before the court that in some way impacts Roe.

            It may never reach that point, as a nation as things change so too do our laws, often not as quickly as they should……but we have adjusted as times have changed. You may see a similar type shift with abortion, particularly late term abortion. There have been similar shifts in other countries, again mostly because of the advancement in knowledge and available medical care.

            That’s my 2 cents and it may not be worth that!!

      • Jadzia says:

        Ha ha, the section of dissertation I wrote today was ABOUT stare decisis! Long story short, Somebody is right: stare decisis just commands respect for precedent, it doesn’t mean that the common law is set in stone. See Gideon v. Wainwright (overturning Betts v Brady), Brown v. Board of Education (overturning Plessy v. Ferguson), and Lawrence v. Texas (overturning Bowers v. Hardwick less than 20 years after the Bowers decision was first rendered, plainly saying, “Bowers was wrong when it was decided, and it is wrong today.”).

    • Lulu says:

      Since different laws are for different people, I almost ready to go warlord territory and pay just one guy. I think it would be cheaper. The Middle Ages are looking better and better.

      • Anthony says:

        We are already paying “just one guy”. Its The Uniparty. We’re gonna need another guy….

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Amen Venus Amen. 😀

    • lyn says:


      “Okay, you probably came here to see my Master Persuader opinion on Trump’s abortion controversy. To me it looked like a mistake, not a clever ploy. Chris Matthews asked a devious gottcha question and it worked. Trump walked right into it.
      “But keep in mind that Trump had no winning hand to play for abortion. He could either offend his base and not get nominated or he could poison his chances in the general election. He had two losing options. So what did he do?
      “He chose ambiguity and chaos. At least he is consistent that way.”

  9. Kathy says:

    Right On!

  10. Somebody says:

    This is a very well written and sourced article about the implications of TPP. The author used Harley Davidson as his example of the impact and put it in simple terms that anyone can understand, of course Harley is but one company the impact will be far greater when multiplied across many companies across the entire US.

    I know the conservative treehouse is a very pro-Trump site, don’t let that dissuade you from reading this well written and sourced article it’s well worth the click. Sure there are some swipes taken at some other pols, but the overall message is one that people really need to be aware of.

    I had no idea that India puts a 100% tariff on motorcycles imported from the US, China 30%, Vietnam 40%. We have a tariff on motorcycles imported into the US too 2.4%……OMG! The TPP deal will remove our draconian 2.4%, thank the heavens! Does any of that remotely sound like a level playing field?

    Seeing all of this makes me even angrier at all the talking heads screaming about ZOMG, if Trump were to impose tariffs of ZOMG perhaps as high as 45% the world would come to an end. Destitution and destruction would ensue, ZOMG!

  11. cynic says:

    Like Kathy, l check in regularly, but my life has gotten very busy. I came across this article and would like to share. It’s quite revealing, and the comments are eye-opening. This is the title of the article: A Bernie Sanders Supporter Confronted a Superdelegate — Then Leaked Their Private Conversation


    Lots of Bernie fans won’t be voting if Hillary’s the nominee. Grab the popcorn. These next 7 months should be quite interesting.

    • leslie says:

      So happy to *see* you, cynic. I have days when I don’t comment much, if at all. Then there are days that I have verbal diarrhea. How is your daughter and are you prepared for May? What about your son’s gf? Come the fall, you are going to be one busy gramma.
      *waves hello*

      • cynic says:

        We’re doing ok, however, daughter has bronchitis, and has had breathing/coughing problems since Nov. There aren’t too many medicines that she can take while pg, and will go see a lung specialist next wk. She only has 7 more wks, and we’re busy getting a bedroom in the house set up for the babies. Son’s gf is due 9/29.

        Between yard clean-up, spending hours in my basement transplanting seedlings, birthdays, hosting Easter, etc. I have little down time. I do take time to catch up here, while I eat my lunch. Love you all!

        Hope all is well on your end!

        • leslie says:

          9/29 is a good date! It’s my parents’ wedding anniversary. So it has great meaning for me. In the meantime, I hope this bronchitis thing eases up. It is exhausting, I know. Hope the lung guy can help her. ❤

    • mothy67, says:

      Love at the end when he says something about riots and she replies you sound like Trump. Fatass brazille was on cnn everyday talking about riots if superdelegates decided the nomination. I genuinely hate these slime.

  12. Dora says:

    It looks nice from up there. And you don’t get the stink!

    • DeniseVB says:

      Let’s see Ms. Carpetbagger pull that on Brooklyn Born Bernie.

      • leslie says:

        Speaking of Brooklyn Born Bernie . . .
        I just saw a fundraising letter from Bernie in my email box. It states that in the last month,

        “Last month we raised an unbelievable $43.5 million from working people giving just a little bit each online. If we were to raise more money by the end of this month at midnight tonight, it would send an unmistakable message to the media and the establishment: we are going to win this campaign and the White House.”

        The subject line in my email said: Re: $43,498,784.41
        Can it be possible that Sanders campaign really raised that much without the help of machines ?

  13. DeniseVB says:


    • jeffhas says:

      Highly plausible. Both represent Status Quo, and SQ desperately needs to survive…. So…..

  14. lyn says:

  15. AFVet says:

    Well it’s tax season folks.
    Obama really appreciates your money funding his vacays.
    Here’s the latest tally from Judicial Watch.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Yep, we’re coughing up about less than a minute’s worth of flight time on AF1 this year. (based on 3k/minute it costs to fly that plane). Really puts me in a bad mood 😉

      • AFVet says:

        The Obama’s do not care about your mood.
        Eat your peas.

      • Jadzia says:

        I am supposedly getting a refund, which makes no sense given that I don’t live there! I would gladly give back the refund to not have to go through the expensive and frightening/stressful process of filing expat tax returns and “Financial Crime Enforcement Network” forms every spring.

  16. Dora says:

    Donald Trump is heading for Washington today to meet Sen. Sessions and members of his foreign policy team.

    Trump expected to visit Washington on Thursday


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    Todd Palin update and some sweet photos.

    • Jadzia says:

      That looks like it was really serious, even more so given that it’s been what, 2-3 weeks since the accident?

  20. Dora says:

    Still don’t know what’s going on.

  21. Jadzia says:

    So I am depressed and trying to STFU. My freeloader husband thinks that putting his CV on a website and forgetting about it = job hunting. Yes, I have tried for many years to explain/help in terms of a proper job hunt but have gotten nowhere. Anyway, he got a call from some site he forgot about today. Me, cringing: “So, what company is it?” Him: “Oh, the guy didn’t tell me. He was calling from the car, said he would tell me when we meet.”

    SOUNDS LEGIT. Ugh. I am so tired. Working 3 jobs will do that to a person. But Chapter 8 is officially more than halfway done. : )

    • Somebody says:

      (((HUGS))) Hopefully this will be a legit job and your husband will finally be pitching in so you can take some of your load off, because you deserve that sister!

      Halfway through chapter 8? Yipee…..only two and a half chapters to go!!! You can do it! You’re like the little engine that could, you keep chugging up that hill the crest is clearly in your sights now!

      BTW Italy is in your sights too! Here’s to a productive writing weekend!

      • Jadzia says:

        Oh, thanks! I’m just hoping they don’t find his body in a parking lot somewhere. Yikes.

        It’s not 2.5 chapters to go — it’s ONE and a half chapters! For some reason I am being forced to do this “like the French flag” (a direct quote from my advisor): 3 sections of 3 chapters each; each chapter has 3 sections, each section has 3 subsections. The whole thing has 300 pages. So it’s just 13 writing days to go! I’m a little behind where I thought I would be, but still more than on track for the real goal, which was to finish this sucker by May.

        And yes, Italy is coming up! My bank FINALLY let me have my money from my December paycheck (French banks don’t like to have American customers anymore because of FATCA), so we won’t be stowing away on the undercarriage of the train to get there, and that’s sure exciting. The B&B operator, who seems very nice, is every stereotype of an Italian dude you can come up with, rolled into a single person. I hear all of his emails in my head in the Hollywood version of an Italian accent. But that’s okay, because he get me the best cappuccino in Rome. : )

        • taw46 says:

          You are so close, congratulations! Rome will be a wonderful reward for your hard work.

          • Jadzia says:

            I….. was kind of thinking a Mansur Gavriel tote (which I have been putting into and taking out of my online shopping basket for a week now!). Rome was 9-year-old Bruno’s idea; it’s his trip. : )

          • Jadzia says:

            More time working and less time gawking at it online and maybe I can even afford it. : )

          • cynic says:

            Oh, I don’t know how you can do everything you are doing! I’m exhausted just thinking about it. Congratulations!

            I had to look up the Mansur Gavriel tote. Oh my.

          • taw46 says:

            I had to look up the tote as well, gorgeous. And Bruno has good taste, to choose Rome.

        • Somebody says:

          I don’t know why I thought it was 10 chapters??? One and half to go even better!!! You’ve got this, you’ll be finished well before your trip so you can rest up and really enjoy the vacation you so richly deserve! I hope you all have the time of your lives!

          BTW I’m so J, Rome……probably one of the most fascinating cities in the world. You won’t be able to see everything in one trip or so I’ve heard. All the more reason to plan another trip!!

          • taw46 says:

            You would need a year to see Rome. On my one and only trip, I told my cousin we were going to the Vatican first. I didn’t want to risk the Pope dying and the Sistine Chapel being closed, lol.

    • votermom says:

      ((Hugs)) and good luck!

    • leslie says:

      Double {{{HUGS}}} and what *Somebody* said.

    • blowme0bama says:

      Heh, old gal at the office had a professional student / Ph.D. husband she’d supported for 30+ years. He gets an adjunct professor job at a local branch of a State University. Quits after 2 semesters.

      Poor old thing has to be 65 now. I told her she needed to get a wife.

      There was a time when 3 of my best buds had wives supporting them. Never could find one of those gals.

      • Jadzia says:

        You don’t want one of those gals, I am guessing they were probably pretty bitter and angry at home. Everybody helping to pull the wagon in their own way is my preferred solution!

        • blowme0bama says:

          Yeah, all their marriages ended on divorce. Of course, my first 2 with traditional division of labor did as well.

          Wifey 3’s talents are wasted on a slob like me. She went to the same finishing school as Mika Brezhenski. She’s comfortable mixing with Governors and Senators (used to in her home state), but the most social thing she gets to do around me is contribute to the HOA email chain.

      • leslie says:

        Sounds like my sis. Her very brilliant husband is a writer – a good writer. But the livelihood of a writer of serious works is tenuous at best. When he finally got his adjunct prof-ship at the nearby college, he hated it so much he left (this also after 2 semesters.)
        I just had to STFU while I watched her work and work and work. It was hard to see that.
        And BTW, I always said I needed a wife – even while I was married to my husband – especially then. 😉
        Now that I’m retired and dealing with health issues, I need that wife more than ever. lol

        • blowme0bama says:

          Yeah, the guy was likeable, but he was in school until he was close to 60. Student debt out the ass. He died in a MC accident. Thankfully, she wasn’t responsible for any of his debt aside from being a taxpayer like the rest of us.

          • leslie says:

            That is a sad ending to a life. Glad your sis was not stuck with his debt.

          • blowme0bama says:

            Wasn’t my sis, rather this lady I’ve worked with now for 20 years.

            He was funny. He had a Triumph bike that he replaced the gas tank on with a bright green one, then stuck a John Deere sticker on it. He used to screw with folks over that.

          • leslie says:

            Good. I must’ve been still thinking about my sis. lol
            Her husband is very much alive and we’re so glad he is.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Catching up …. {{{hugs}}} and what everyone else said.

  22. Dora says:

    How sweet. 🙂

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