Why I’m Supporting Trump: An Honest Accounting

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Dear friends, I don’t normally discuss politics in public anymore, mostly because since I’ve switched sides all I hear is the Pavlovian bark of my old pack. It’s painful to watch people I know and once respected respond so predictably to what is clearly conditioning, and to offer arguments so devoid of reason and logic as to be analogous to praying the stations of the cross. The arguments, such as they are, serve only to reinforce religious dogma and offer habitual comfort to those who imagine themselves afflicted. For some reason, the conditioning didn’t work on me, and I suddenly found myself expelled from this pack some time ago. Now I wander freely, willing and able to sniff out anything truly authentic and enticing.

Authentic and enticing are two words I would definitely use to describe Donald Trump. To be sure, I hear your barking, and I understand the message you want to communicate. I just don’t believe it.

In the words of one such writer currently being passed around on the Facebook newsfeeds of my old pack-buddies, I hear that you think The Donald is, “hateful, sexist, racist and ignorant.” I know that’s what you hear when the mainstream media, and especially the alt-left media, covers Mr. Trump. I also know the very design of these media is to prime the response of your conditioning. Anybody not approved by the proper intellectual authorities will illicit this response in you.

Where you fail is in trying to justify your arguments, such as they are. For example, in the above linked piece, the writer follows up with easily debunked arguments that show he’s not listening to the words Trump has spoken, but rather to the reactions of trusted partisan sources he has encountered as he navigates the platforms of left-wing amplification.

How do you support him so blindly? Ask yourself, are you a racist, sexist, hateful and ignorant person as well? I hear his supporters saying they like him because he tells the truth, because he’s so rich he can say whatever he feels like with no apologies. Just because Trump is saying these things doesn’t suddenly make them right. It’s not okay to discriminate against an entire religion based on a small percentage of its followers who have become terrorists by twisting the words of the religion to fit their crazy ideals. It’s not okay to marginalize an entire race of people, saying things like all the Mexicans are lazy, that they are all stealing our jobs and bringing drugs into our country.

This writer does not even try to support his arguments with evidence. He just states what he believes and asks that the reader also believe it. And while he uses the word “friends” it is clear that he does think of them as “friends.” Instead, he insults them with further assumptions about how they’ve arrived at their conclusion.

I am not blind, nor do I blindly follow. I am neither sexist nor racist. I am not ignorant or hateful. What I am is suspicious of you and your rhetoric because it has so clearly departed from reality in recent years. How did you come to expect I would wither under this insulting criticism? Do you not know me? I am the dog that sniffs and snoops for truth. This is why you banished me from the pack. And it’s why I support Donald Trump. I know what he’s said, and it bears no resemblance to what my friends on the left claim he’s said.

No religion has been discriminated against based on a small number of followers who went on to be terrorists. No one has talked of adopting a wholesale permanent ban of Muslims coming to this country. This talking point is convenient for you right now, but I wonder how you will feel when 129 people are shot to death by organized terrorists, fish in a barrel style, at a concert you find yourselves attending. You have seen the videos of gay Muslims being thrown off of tall buildings. You have seen the videos of ISIS’ prisoners being drowned in circus cages. You have seen multiple journalists and other prisoners of ISIS being beheaded on YouTube. How can you not be concerned about these acts and the rhetoric that is building armies across the Middle East that want to come for you and yours? But yet you want to criticize the so-called tribalism of American political factions you disagree with?

Furthermore, no one, including Donald Trump, has said that “all” Mexicans are lazy, etc. This is what you heard because this is what you want to believe. This is what your conditioning has primed you to believe. What I wonder, if you are such a critical thinker as you claim to be, is why you have not thought about addressing the issues in Mexico that drive people to immigrate illegally? Why are you so willing to hand over everything we’ve built here in America, but you are not willing to hold the Mexican government accountable for the fact that they refuse to make Mexico a livable environment in which Mexico’s citizens can thrive?

I might not be posting my feelings endlessly on Facebook, or sharing memes to signal my thoughts on the political landscape in America, but I have been paying attention. I’ve dutifully followed up on every single accusation that has been thrown at Donald Trump AND his supporter this campaign season. My judgment after such dutiful research and reflection is that your propaganda is exactly that: propaganda. Friends, I do not think you have thought clearly on these subjects, and you have refused to confront yourselves on them. This truth has moved me slowly but surely to supporting Donald Trump. You are the reason I support him now. Your desperate hyperbole has proved your undoing.

I hold no illusions that Donald Trump is an honest man. I have every expectation that he will use the office of the president to enrich himself and his bottom line. But I also expect that he does have good economic sense. The fact that he has consistently acted in his own best economic interests is one of the reasons I trust him on the economy and jobs. These are the two paramount issues of this election. These are the elements that made America great, and focusing on them now can make America great again.

You, friends, cannot be trusted on these issues. Your rhetoric shows that you do not care about your own best economic interest. You’d rather give away the material wealth and health of Americans to those you deem less fortunate, but you don’t want to sacrifice your own. If you did, you would walk up to the next Spanish speaker you encountered and give them your cell phone, along with your selfie-stick. You would set up your banking accounts so that a certain percentage went automatically to the homeless. You would spend every excess penny you have sending water to the slums of Flint.You would get yourselves to the ghettos of Ferguson or Baltimore and use your bodies as human shields against the police brutality you decry so often. Yet you do none of these things.

The lack of your actions in support of your words gives away your commitment to the causes you say you espouse. I’ve been looking at what you do, in addition to hearing what you say. I can report that there is a serious credibility gap. I thus conclude that you are not trustworthy and I have no reason to believe you.

Friends, you can unfriend me on Facebook if that’s what you want to do. Unfollow my Twitter and Instagram accounts if you need to. But before you go on to the next conditioning internet meme that you will no doubt share via social media, I hope you will stop and reflect on your own process or methodology, and ask yourselves, ”How’s that working out?” From where I’m standing, it is not working out for you at all. Here are a few small tips: You cannot move me to your way of thinking by calling me names or otherwise throwing rhetorical punches. Your violent, decadent protests serve only to entrench my support of Mr. Trump more.

While I might not say much in response to your voluminous signaling of your own complacence right now, I promise you that once Mr. Trump is elected—and he will be—I will begin again to participate in the conversation. We will no doubt be at rhetorical war then, but I will be compelled to fight you so that you don’t, through the amplification of your intolerance, ruin the best chance we have to bring some real change to our politics and our nation. Unless and until it comes to that, just know I’m paying attention, and I have a long memory.


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248 Responses to Why I’m Supporting Trump: An Honest Accounting

  1. WMCB says:

    Tell, ’em, Lola. No rose-colored glasses, just not parroting the nonsense.

  2. WMCB says:

  3. Cynthia says:

    So many of our kind from 2008 on the Trump train. Well put Lola!!! There are lots of us together again!!

  4. taw46 says:

    Bravo, Lola! Another writer who thinks he can insult us into thinking the way he does.

  5. Okay, a few small edits this morning.

    This post is intended to allow you to post to your social media with or without comment. Just a small way to #fightback.

    • swanspirit says:

      And it is greatly appreciated. 💟 🌼 👑 Funny thing, I had just read that propaganda piece from the Huffinglue post, because a friend posted it on Fb, and then scooted over here to read your well thought out and sane response.

      That piece of shaming, drama filled rhetoric is just what I loathe about that kind of propaganda. The author completely ignored any actual real life adverse circumstances that have contributed to the current state of American voters; and they speak as if all of this hopeless helpless feeling exists on some purely theoretical plane of existence.
      Murders, crime increases, poverty, job losses, terrorism? They are just bad ideas you have, not real life occurrences that are affecting entire populations of people who might be unfortunate enough to have had their lives affected in terrible ways.

      The writer is the one lacking empathy and compassion, because the people experiencing adversity aren’t in the currently approved victim group. If anyone is racist, it is them.
      They designated me racist, for supporting Hillary Clinton in 2008, and now in 2016 , I am a racist for not supporting her. Nice try. They can sell their crap somewhere else. Oh, I forgot , Huffinglue Post doesn’t pay their writers, so what it is worth is obvious.

    • Constance says:

      Thanks! I think I will post it. I feel the same way you do but couldn’t have written this well if I tried and I was too lazy to try.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I can retweet this all day ❤

      • I hope it does get Tweeted all day. I poured my heart and soul into it. It’s what I’ve been thinking as I scroll through the anti-Trump wastelands of left and right based Internet sites these days, and of course social media.

        One of the great things about Trump, however, is that we don’t have to fight these people. He fights back for us so we don’t have to. Nevertheless, it’s handy to have a single link to post in response to some of the hateful stuff. That’s what this post is for.

        • AFVet says:

          Well said Lola, I enjoyed the read.
          Yes Trump fights back.
          No more PC with this guy.
          And they wonder why he is so popular ?
          America has a voice again.

  6. leslie says:

    Lola, thank you for your logical and calm post. I will be using this with my “friends” who think with their emotions – who say what they “feel”, who substitute passion for logic, and who continuously quote the propaganda rather think for themselves. I recognize it, because I, too, once espoused and believed the talking points. Well done.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    After I read the bloviating manifest you linked to, I rushed right over to pick up some brain bleach/aka Milo’s twitter feed. I feel better now 🙂

  8. WMCB says:

    Note how NYT rushes to assure us that yet MORE rate hikes don’t mean it’s a failure…

  9. WMCB says:

    “I don’t like your tone, boy.” I hope Trump tells him to fucking pound sand.

  10. DeniseVB says:

  11. DeniseVB says:

    “Them” vs. “Us”

  12. Ann says:

    I live in a purple town. The town next to me (and moving east and north) is red. The city to the south of me, is blue. (NYS)

    I walked into the jeweler’s yesterday, and I heard someone trying to engage the jeweler about politics. He was taking about how his family was questioning how he could support Trump. He them proceeded to say that he told them, “How can you think things will be better with Hillary? It will just be more of the same! How can you want that?” and then he told the jeweler, “I told them Trump will give them change, and it may be our last chance for prosperity.”

    I nodded and smiled as he turned to leave… he was about 75 years old, and had on a veteran’s cap. The jeweler looked a little leery when he looked up to me – not always a great thing to irritate any client when you run a small shop, and he couldn’t possibly know my political views.

    I have a friend who is anti everyone running (but more anti Trump), and her big concern is Israel. She is Jewish, and hates how the US has encouraged the horde surrounding the place under Obama (whom she loves, loves, loves, just because he is “”from” Chicago… and she lives in Chicago). When I pointed out that Trump’s daughter and grandchildren were Jewish, she did concede “well that is something”.

    Maybe baby-steps is how you convince people to take a look at who they are voting for? Find that person’s hot-button, and explain why person X may be better than person Z? I honestly don’t know. I know my son and niece can’t tell me why Trump is a racist or sexist. So after the second time I asked, that talking point has now been muted. They never brought up “dumb” as it is pretty hard to label a (basically) self made billionaire “dumb” (I can’t believe that one is even a talking point. O.o )

    This is going to be an interesting 6 months. I’m not sure that anyone is going to convince anyone of anything when they “know” they are right. You can only try to have a civilized conversation.

  13. driguana says:

    Very nicely stated Lola. I love watching all the squirming going on. And the clinging to sinking ships!!!

  14. lyn says:

    Great post, Lola. Who would have thought conservatives would jump ship and support Hillary because of their Trump hate? They are the Wah-Wahs.

  15. mothy67 says:

    Lola may I post this on Facebook? The only thing I would add is that he damn funny. Very quick.

  16. elliesmom says:

    Most of the anti-Trumpers I engage with on FB are Bernie supporters. While I do my share of discussing Bernie’s points, personal strengths and weaknesses with them, when the primary in their state has passed, I back off. They are still convinced Bernie is going to get the Democratic nomination. They will be ripest for the picking when Hillary gets the nomination, and they believe Bernie was cheated. Should Obama drop the piano on Hillary’s head, it will be a new ballgame. So I watch and wait.

    • DeniseVB says:

      My FB Bernbots are all about trashing Trump rather than telling me why I should support Bernie. I certainly prefer Bern over Hill, so I try to encourage promoting their candidate over attacking another, when I want to yell “Eff you, I’m voting for the guy who wants to make America great again, not the one who wants to turn us into effing Venezuela!!”

  17. votermom says:

    Brava, Lola!!!! Fantastic post!

  18. Dora says:

    I love your “honest accounting” Lola. It’s so very well written. Thanks.

  19. mothy67 says:

    Pre PA primary I saw no Trump signs. Now they are all over the place. I don’t know why but it makes me think of Kafka. Like K in the Castle or how Gregor’s family was able to live when he became a cockroach. Everybody secretly liked Trump but was afraid to say it. I know not one person that likes Hillary. I was in a bar playing a for amusement only poker game during last debate a bunch of 20 somethings were shooting pool. They were getting a charge out of the Donald. He does not pander. The women really find Hillary offensive. My D.O. finds Hill offensive when she hears the gender card. She said it takes a bit of work to become a doctor. Gender will not define her. She said she worked hard took chemistry over the summer at a community college and then took at her university without telling anyone. She knew it was a weak spot. She told me she finds Trump charming. Claims as a professional woman she is sick of men acting too sensitive. Metrosexual men bore her. She likes a guy that drinks a little too much and he better be eyeing up the hot 18 year old waitress. She finds the feminazation of men appalling. She finds Trump sexy because he actually says something.

    • blowme0bama says:

      I think there’s an AWFUL lot of that going on with regard to secret admiration for Trump. A bit may have to do with concern for unhinged leftists who’ve been attacking normal people for even wearing an offensive MAGA hat. How SICK is that? MAGA is racist. These people are mentally ill. They are miserable, hate everything, including themselves.

  20. WMCB says:

    • blowme0bama says:

      Okay, so now she’s disabled too. Eighteen year old overweight girl, otherwise appearing perfectly healthy, is on the dole for the rest of her life, taking 20 pills a day for her autoimmune disorder. Of COURSE she wants free college and whatever else the hell she can get. Since she’s likely never had to work a day in her life, giving all this free shit to foreigners is the right thing to do too.

      I swear they should raise the voting age to 35.

  21. mothy67 says:

    My brother is a boilermaker. He has one child in 11th grade his insurance is 823 a month with a 6 thousand deductible going up in November. It takes years to become a full fledged boilermaker, but they are giving a pass on Mexicans. They do not have to meet same requirements. And all new hires are not American. He makes very good money when he works. With benefits over 100 an hour. Takes many years to get there. He also goes months without a job when he works its often over 100 hours a week. He does a lot of travelling because not many people have that skill set. He had to apprentice for years. Needless to say he is angry. It took him 20 years to get to this point and these people just walk in. He’s a union guy voting Trump as are all his friends.

  22. CiscoKid says:

    Punching in late, and as always, glad I stopped by.
    That was so succinct and to the point.
    It reads like a professional editorial, the way the should be written, logically, supported by facts.

  23. foxyladi14 says:

    Thank you Lola. This is Fantastic, I love it

  24. dailypuma says:

    I thought Hillary Clinton was ready in 2008, now having to be defeat both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in the same election cycle should make her a fantastic candidate. I don’t quite understand why you can’t see that you have been handed a win win situation since whether Trump Wins, Or Hillary Wins, you win.

    • Anthony says:

      Hillary Clinton is 180 degrees from her 2008 platform that inspired all of us to support her. Now, she espouses and protects all she ran against. You kinda left that part out, which totally neutralizes your brilliant “Win-Win” situation. Nice try though, but no cigar.

      • dailypuma says:

        The progressive media would have really roasted her if she had stayed true to her 2008 position. I trust she will do the best thing as president, which will of course drive both the neo conservatives and the progressive nuts because she will be using great ideas from both sides.

        • elliesmom says:

          Hillary Clinton has shown she will do whatever is best for Hillary Clinton. To believe anything else given her track record is extreme naivete. It’s hard to let go of an idol when it falls over and cracks apart, but recovery is possible. It’s also hard for some off us to realize we may never get to cross having a woman elected president off our bucket list, but that doesn’t mean we should elect a woman at all costs. “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” Everything about Hillary’s corruption, her mistreatment of women, her willingness to break the law if it was in her own interest were all there in 2008. Like a lot of people I was so enamored of the idea of electing the first woman, I refused to look, but now I can’t look at her w/o being disappointed and disgusted.

        • Anthony says:

          Do you ever read what you post? That’s the most inane thing I’ve ever heard you say. And considering some of the craziness you spew, thats a BIG statement for me to make.

          No sale, sheister.

    • Assume much? How do you know I don’t see this election as a win-win? Maybe I do.

      But just for the record, I’ll make more money with Trump and so will everybody else. And the shitheads who refuse to work will be made to. The whole country will grow richer because of it, and we’ll need it to support the stupid policy choices of the last two administrations. Just…fuck this shit. #GoTrump.

    • Venus says:

      Go home, you’re drunk.

  25. This is the single best piece of writing on Trump I’ve seen. Thank you Lola.

  26. Dora says:

    I’m really not in need of a ball gown. I just think this picture is stunning!


    • elliesmom says:

      Claire Danes was absolutely stunning.

    • leslie says:

      This dress AND Clare Danes were my two favorites of the Met Gala. This gown is simply gossamer-like. And the lighting in the gown makes it breathtaking.

      • DeniseVB says:

        The new People issue has some of the gowns worn, not one was of Clare and her gown. Just the usual Kardashian b.s. slobber w/creepy Kanye.

        • leslie says:

          It’s utterly pathetic. I don’t know how many sites selected this gown as their favorite. I heard on the “news” that Kanye fired one of his assistants right there at the Met for trying to speak to Kim.
          He is a sick #^*@.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I’m so addicted to People, hate the liberal slant, keep threatened to unsubscribe, then they drag me back in with a moving interview with Lara Logan.

          • leslie says:

            Maybe I’ll subscribe. I’d rather read it at home instead of in line at the grocers. My mother – the most learned intelligent woman in the world (not kidding) received a subscription to People when she moved into assisted living. She read all the classics, and loved non-fiction and European and US history books. But she’d read People from cover to cover every week when she got her hair and nails done. Golly I miss her!

  27. dailypuma says:

    I thought Hillary Clinton was ready in 2008, now having to defeat both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in the same election cycle should make her a fantastic president. I don’t quite understand why you can’t see that you have been handed a win win situation since whether Trump Wins, Or Hillary Wins, you win.

    • Anthony says:

      Try for take 3? Repeat as often as you like. Not buying it.

    • WMCB says:

      Scott Adams has put up more analysis of Trump’s persuasion skills.


    • elliesmom says:

      Hillary has proved to be far less competent and much more corrupt and dishonest than I believed her to be in 2008. When the phone rang at 3 am, she rolled over and went back to sleep. She used her position as SoS to line her own pockets. Using a server in her bathroom for sensitive government work says she’s either incompetent or blatantly believes she is above the law. While I don’t expect her to be any more honest or competent than the average politician, my dream was not to have the first woman president be someone who is under threat of indictment. I’m not looking for a continuation of the Obama administration. Especially not the corruption. So no, I don’t see a Hillary Clinton win as a win for me. Identity politics got us Obama.

      • dailypuma says:

        There it is again, either she still doesn’t have the experience meme, or she’s already proved to be a bad president even though she’s never been president. Obama and Hillary were in a strange situation. I can’t imagine Hillary trusting Sanders to any position if she is elected president, so its logical to assume that Hillary Clinton wanted additional prespectives as SOS from those with unique knowledge. Funny, when Hillary Clinton thinks outside of the box, everyone wants to label her a criminal, when Trump says outside of the box ideas, even constitutionally impossible ideas, his followers ooh and ahh. Trump still hasn’t been vetted for SteakGate, when during a press conference he waxed on about how great and successful Trump Steaks were when that failed enterprise was stopped 20 years ago. That presser really gave him momentum by the way.

        • elliesmom says:

          I never said she doesn’t have enough experience to be president. Just that she has proved to be corrupt. Lies in my face. Breaks the law and expects me to look the other way. That just makes her a typical politician in my book, and her winning the election wouldn’t be a “win” for me. Why would I celebrate the first woman president being “nothing special”? I’d like to be able to be proud of the first woman president, not be embarrassed by her. If Hillary Clinton was a man, I wouldn’t vote for him. No way, no how. So why would I vote for her? No one died from eating Trump’s steaks. Hillary Clinton left Americans to die and lied about it. When has Hillary Clinton ever thought outside the box? Putting a server with sensitive information on it in your bathroom doesn’t qualify.

          • Somebody says:

            Not to quibble EM, but I think bypassing security via a server in the bathroom is thinking outside the box…….just not the kind of thinking outside the box I had in mind.

            Daily Puma, please name Hillary’s accomplishments as SOS. You can’t and you know you can’t because she has a string of horrible failures that show horrible judgement. Don’t tell me she “championed women’s rights either”, that dog don’t hunt honey.

            As for Trump steaks……….really?? Give me a fucking break. A failed beef company compared to at a minimum mishandling classified material, quite possibly treason, not to mention taking in shitloads of foreign money to the Clinton foundation in exchange for favors or maybe you believe in coincidence.

            Sheesh take off your blinders. Trump is far from a perfect candidate, but one thing he has going for him is his love of country. I used to think Hillary had that going for her, but her time as SOS showed me the error of my ways. Hillary’s only loyalty lies with Hillary and whatever dirty money she and Bill can get their hands on. American lives don’t even matter to her.

          • A Nobody from Nowhere says:

            Hillary’s accomplishments as SOS: Four dead in Benghazi, including the Ambassador – for pity’s sake, the freakin’ AMBASSADOR. Her 2008 commercial about the 3:00am phone call was compelling … now that she actually got the call and rolled over to go back to sleep, as the above poster phrased it, we know the reality – objective reality that exists outside of each of our own tiny little heads – yeah, accomplishments indeed.

        • AFVet says:

          Are you serious ???
          Hillary is under investigation by the FBI and the DOJ for possible US security violations.
          And you’re bringing up Trump steaks ?
          Get a grip.

          She has a lot of experience, she’s gotten away with far more than you or I could ever have gotten away with.

        • CiscoKid says:

          SteakGate? Please tell that’s some kind of joke.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Actually Trump Steaks were started in 2007 and sold through Sharper Image, which went bankrupt (Bing is my friend). I believe his products are still served at his hotels and golf clubs. Business failures don’t bother me, he may have lost his own money, but the government throws mine away everyday.

          Hillary blamed Republicans for blocking “more” funds for more security at embassies, like Benghazi. Meanwhile she was spending millions on Embassy remodels and new green cars for the staffs. She just has very bad judgement. Period. As a commentor on MOTUS said, if I have to pick the lesser of two evils, I’ll pick the one I haven’t tried yet (I think that was a Mae West quote?).

          Had Hillary only stayed in the Senate and held Obama’s feet to the fire, or run for Gov of NY, but no, she signed up for that SoS gig and blew it. Sorry.

          Here’s an afterthought, had Mike Ditka and JFK,Jr ran for the Senate, we would have never heard of Obama or heard from Hillary ever again. (Ditka’s already apologized, John-John is unavailable for comment).

      • swanspirit says:

        I don’t think she fell asleep. I think she was wide awake and let it ring, because she was busy protecting Obama’s reelection chances.
        And after she stood next to Obama, over the coffins of the men she let die, in the face of their families , and told that abhorrent lie about the video, (so the one didn’t have to say it himself) I was done.
        So I don’t want anyone telling me about any goddamned win win with Hillary the sellout LIAR. We have already lost enough lives on her account.

        • Good point. I forgot about dead Chris Stevens when I posted my comment. I forgot she was sleeping at 3AM.

          • Somebody says:

            She not only lied about the video, one lie she continues to tell to this day is about the wonderful Libyans that bravely tired to help Ambassador Stevens. If I saw the man dragged through the streets she sure as fuck saw it, LIES! They weren’t trying to help him. The images I saw that night……which were scrubbed from the internet as fast as they were put up……I will never be able to erase from my mind. Every time she repeats that bullshit about the brave, helpful Libyans my blood pressure spikes.

          • swanspirit says:

            I am so sensitive about those men dying for Obama’s reelection. First of all , after all the years my son spent in the service, I probably have some PTSD from worrying. Not to mention how much this service guys physically resemble him, especially with the beard and sunglasses look, so I strongly identify with our guys.
            On top of that, my son explained to me in detail , and with military acronyms, how the units operate that would have, could have, and should have gone to rescue the Ambassador. And what was necessary for them to have been stopped.
            He can’t talk about it without getting very upset.
            If that had been my child that was lost, and Hillary stood in front of me , and told me it was a fucking video; I would be in jail for strangling her with my bare hands.

          • Myiq2xu™ says:

            The military has been used and abused by politicians since the beginning of recorded history. Politics have probably killed more soldiers than incompetence. That doesn’t make it right, or make losing your child any easier.

      • Underwhelmed says:

        Actually, she muttered – someone shoot the bastard on the other end of the phone, he’s irritating me when I want to sleep.

    • Lulu says:

      I for one did not realize that Hillary was a full frontal globalist hack in 2008. I also did not realize she was so dreadfully tone deaf to the majority of the country and suspect that Bill had a lot more influence over her attitudes and opinion until she “broke free” of his influence to join the progressive “know-nothings” after 2008. She has a tin ear for national politics and could have easily shifted to match Trump but chose not to do so last year. She is now in a hole based on very easily avoided mistakes after 2008 in the direction the public is trending. She made every decision made on convenience for her climb and the welfare of the country was the last consideration. 2008 was her chance and she folded when it mattered most. She doesn’t get another one and besides she has already f’ed it up.

    • Dora says:

      ‘whether Trump Wins, Or Hillary Wins, you win’. . . . I’m not sure if that’s a joke. Was it meant to be? My God, these two people are nothing alike. Donald is an America First candidate and Hillary is a globalist. Donald wants to close the borders while Hillary wants to let in as many illegal immigrants as possible. I only see one winner here.

    • leslie says:

      I most likely don’t have much new to add here. But in 2008 I supported Hillary Clinton – not to become the first woman President, but to elect the person who had the most experience and who was the best prepared for that daunting task. A, too, thought she was honest and was being cheated out of the nomination. I still believe – no, I KNOW she was cheated out of the nomination. I supported her in spite of stories my sister (who lived in NY at the time) shared with me about situations in which HRC granted favors to big businesses while Senator. I chose to disbelieve the stories. She had led us all to believe she was the champion of women and children. One of the stories my sister shared – and the one that had turned my sister against HRC focused on Hillary granting favors to a company that wanted to burn old car and truck tires in the open air without safeguards against the toxic ash and smoke traveling to the small towns to the east. The smoke, ash, and debris was toxic, especially to children and people whose respiratory systems were compromised. there were hearings and HRC allowed the burning to take place and the toxins to spread over these small towns that didn’t have the resources to fight back.
      HRC was not a globalist then. She was me-first people at a time to be named later.
      So I agree with EM, and Somebody, and AFVet, and Swanspirit – most of all Swanspirit.
      It was, after all, BENGHAZI that had the greatest impact on my decision to never again vote for Ms Clinton. Never.

  28. Anthony says:

    Honest and astoundingly on point, Lola. LOVE this post! Its like you’re reading the minds of millions.

    In my Freshman year my music composition prof. said the following, which I’ll NEVER forget:

    “The record buying public responds to ONE thing and one thing only: sincerity.

    If you don’t believe a note you’re writing, then your listeners will hear your inauthenticity and never believe another note you write. And neither will I. Better that you not hand in any assignment at all than give me something that sounds like a lie”

    Trump, for all his flaws, ALWAYS sounds authentic. That is not lost on anyone, no matter how hard they try to deny it.

  29. mothy67 says:

    Think about the fact my Doctor(a woman) my boiler maker brother, and a bunch of twenty somethings playing pool in a dive bar are all on the Trump train. Add me in a gay. We are supposed to be loyal democrats. Almost a year ago I boarded Trump. I was ridiculed. I do not have a yard sign because of baby girl, but I wear my hat. People call me names. Gee I will fall apart as growing up gay in a steel town no one ever called me names. I will end because you call me nazi funny I get tons of smiles. I was at the bus stop and this mini wolf pack decided they were going to intimidate me. Fat chance. I politely had a verbal spat. Never raised my voice or backed down. First time in my life I was called a Nazi faggot cunt. I don’t even think thats a thing. I destroyed them by keeping my cool. I do have the gift of making very old ladies say crass things. Elderly woman looked at me and said damn you must have huge brass balls. No I am just not intimidated. I thing WMCB and foxylady were regulars at Hillaryis44 back in 2008. The trolls expressed violence. Talked about raping one woman with a steak knife. She was a writer they found her address and scared her. They posted nasty reviews on her book all because she favored Hillary over obama. Little boys living in basements do not scare me(i live in my parents garage). I ignored them but she reacted and they did go beyond internet trolling to real threats. Something Awful was the website where they would collude to take Hillary supporters down. I believe they were paid and I lost all respect for the left then. Nothing since has changed how I see them. Raping a woman with a steak knife and screaming you are about inclusion. I kinda have a wee bit of affection for a 9 year old never would I want her to be anything like hillary. I think she is a disgrace.

  30. mothy67 says:

    I have to add to the applause. I wish the media would honestly ask why Trump instead of trying to tell me how I feel and calling me names
    Hillary stood before the UN and said we will humiliate those that disrespect islam. She thinks its her right to monitor speech. I supported her in 2008. She is vile.

  31. DandyTIger says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Now women only groups of course. Or black only groups of course. Just male.

    • Anthony says:

      The will “self-identify” as female, and Harvard will welcome them back into the fold. Caitlin Jenner slated to make the announcement, Chaz Bono will emcee

    • elliesmom says:

      What about Hasty Pudding? Can a guy be part of Hasty Pudding and be a campus leader?

    • kanaughty says:

      one question, how about being in a frat? frats are males, sororities are females… or are these not pc anymore either? or does harvard not have them?

  32. DandyTIger says:


  33. WMCB says:

    Scott Adams has put up more analysis of Trump’s persuasion skills. (Someone delete the one above – misposted in wrong spot.)


    • DandyTIger says:

      Spot on analysis. Best part, snuck in there, wasn’t even about the candidates directly. It was this:

      I’ve publicly offered to help for $1.8 billion, which is a bargain, since according to many pundits, defeating Trump would save the entire world. And I have a no-payment guarantee if Trump is elected despite my efforts. What do the anti-Trump folks have to lose?

      So if you really think Trump will destroy the world, you’ll pay him to do this. If not, you were lying all along. 🙂

  34. Anthony says:

    James Caravelle is in for a bumpy night…

  35. DeniseVB says:

    Meet Paul Ryan’s primary challenger….hubba,hubba…..(h/t Motus)

  36. votermom says:

  37. DeniseVB says:

    Yep, it is …

  38. DandyTIger says:

    Got Milo to retweet 🙂

  39. DandyTIger says:

  40. WMCB says:

    The new Nate Silver (genius pollster who got it all wrong) parody account is hilarious.

  41. Friends,

    I am finally off work and so early on such a beautiful day! I have Denise VB’s Mississippi pot roast in the crock pot, and just poured myself a Not Your Father’s Root Beer. Things are definitely looking up!

    I’m going back through comments now, but I cannot possibly respond to every one, especially since I plan to be drunk very soon. LOL. But know that I appreciate so much the lasting friendships we’ve built over the last 8 years, and I definitely plan to call in my dibs on Denise’s couch for the inauguration. Thanks for being so damned awesome and supportive, to me, and to each other. #VIVAlaKLOWN

  42. Propertius says:

    I hear that you think The Donald is, “hateful, sexist, racist and ignorant.”

    I wouldn’t use any of these terms to describe Trump. The word I’d use is “Barnumesque”, if such a word exists (and if it doesn’t, I claim credit for coining it). I think voting for Trump is a natural response on the part of a large number of Americans who’ve been continually screwed-over by the political establishment and I don’t fault anyone for making that choice.

    • WMCB says:

      I’ve said for ages that for many voters, he’s a roll of the dice. The outside-the-box wildcard because, really, could he do much worse than the career pols have done?

      When people are feeling that way, yelling that he’s risky, or bizarre, or says that thing that pols aren’t supposed to say is useless. That stuff is already “priced in.”

    • CiscoKid says:

      The man who said there’s a sucker born every minute.
      Yes, and Trump tells us that how we’ve been played
      Voted Republicans into office, and they gave Obama everything he wanted.
      Suckers? Not anymore

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    • DeniseVB says:

      Yes, interesting. Trump’s new role as GOP “leader” will involve fundraising to help other GOPers ? Though most pay off rivals’ campaign debt for their endorsement, interesting his personal appearance can be worth more.

  44. mothy67 says:

    My dad came hoome from hospital an hour ago. He insisted on picking baby brat up from school. Last night I looked in on my crud. She was asleep in my dads bed with my mom and two dogs. If I were capable of human emotion I’d say I wept. My dad is going back to work. He said if I throw you a surprise party i’m not going to invite Nancy. Nancy was the woman who fired him. I said wait what dad you are throwing me a suprise party. I asked, you do remember you don’t like me. He said holey shit you’re an asshole. Solves Nancy problem. My brat was sadly given a bad deal out of the gate. So fucking what. No pity party. She is loved. I see the section 8 kids and my heart breaks. Poor does not mean stupid. Stop treating children like they are victims. Kids are tough and they are kind. My brat’s mother lives in a trailer with her babies daddy. They live on disability. So sad. I spend more on Shays extra activities than they make in two months. I see little future fir her brother and sister. The thing that kills me is that seem so passive. Like they accept it. Be poor get a hand out. I grew up using newspaper to wipe my ass. We were so poor I ate vegies out of a can. I was so hungry as a kid I ate parmesean cheese out of my hand. I sucked on raw spaghetti noodles. We were never given a poor me card. I shared a room with three brothers. We are all successful. I am the weakest link and I have done okay. Leftists paint poverty in such a bleak manner. SO much irony. I am not a great person but I think I have done okay. MY friend has a doctorate in nursing from Columbia she is married to a doctor they are both Japanese. Japan lets no one in. Yet she defends Japanese culture but thijosI am a nasi for supporting Trump.

  45. kanaughty says:

    Thank you so much for this post Lola. I agree agree agree.

    also, the puma is not nevertrump was a great post too. i sympathized with them wanting to leave their party, but it definitely was not the same things since obama was a cheater and trump was not. he is just not liked. and obama dems i just can’t relate too. they are different than bill clinton dems which i identify with since he has been my favorite president in my lifetime. jim webb is more of a clinton dem. he is one i would love to see considered as vp, though trump said he is picking a repub.

    also, i still like john huntsman, susanna martinez, or senator scott brown for vp.

    the others like carson, i would like to see in other positions, for him surgeon general. chris christie, as AG, etc (as long as he goes after some of these unconstitutional gun laws and prosecute fast and furious finally).

    I would love to see the trump kids involved, because they are stand up great, but someone has to run the trump empire. donnie jr. has really grown on me and has a bright future in politics if he wants to go there. he is like the new jfk jr. 🙂

    nero or steven crowder would be great as press secretary. like how W. picked tony snow, it would be amazing. they hate this whole pc movement, and special snowflakes, and safe places. That’s like their biggest topic in their shows.

  46. leslie says:

    What is this about? Dick Cheney is supporting Trump while the Bush family has determined they will have nothing to do with the 2016 convention as long as Trump is the nominee?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Finally, proof that Cheney was the Brains behind the GWB administration 😉

      • Lulu says:

        Duh. Dick has been dissed by the Bushies because Shrub made such a hash of things. Of course Shrub has no responsibility in his own administration. Payback is a bitch.

  47. Dora says:

  48. Dora says:

  49. DandyTIger says:

    Trump brutal response to Miss Lindsey:

    I fully understand why Lindsey Graham cannot support me. If I got beaten as badly as I beat him, and all the other candidates he endorsed, I would not be able to give my support either. Every time I see Lindsey Graham spew hate during interviews I ask why the media never questions how I single-handedly destroyed his hapless run for President. As a candidate who did not receive 1% in his own state – compared to my victory at nearly 40% with many others in the race – he has zero credibility. He was a poor representative and an embarrassment to the great people of South Carolina. Judging by the incompetent way he ran his campaign, it is easy to see why his military strategies have failed so badly — we can’t even beat ISIS!

    While I will unify the party, Lindsey Graham has shown himself to be beyond rehabilitation. And like the voters who rejected him, so will I!

    • DeniseVB says:

      Graham showed his true colors during his last primary when the lovely Nancy Mace (now a Trump capo) challenged him. GOPe threw in another two candidates to bleed her votes. It worked. It’s the Fight Club rule of the establishment politicians. Cheat. Screw the voters.

    • CiscoKid says:

      Is saying BITCH SLAPPED permisiable?
      Propaganda corps shouts from the towers who doesn’t support Trump.
      But his supporters, crickets.
      Shrinking subscriptions, low Nelson numbers? Figured it out yet media?_

    • Lulu says:

      Isn’t this the show that the producers can’t sell overseas because the buyers said the characters are so ugly and awful that foreign markets won’t watch it? This bunch then called the foreign markets buyers and viewers “racists”. So the profits must be very skimpy thus insults.

      • Venus says:

        I don’t know about that but I do know it’s the show that showed the main character having an abortion on Christmas eve, smiling, while Silent Night played.

        Shonda Rymes is a disgusting human being — Gray’s Anatomy, Scandal and How to Get Away With Murder — disgusting characters doing horrible things while pushing prog agenda.
        And she’s talked about as if she has talent

  50. Venus says:

    Trump responds to Lindsey:


    “I fully understand why Lindsey Graham cannot support me. If I got beaten as badly as I beat him, and all the other candidates he endorsed, I would not be able to give my support either. Every time I see Lindsey Graham spew hate during interviews I ask why the media never questions how I single-handedly destroyed his hapless run for President. As a candidate who did not receive 1% in his own state – compared to my victory at nearly 40% with many others in the race – he has zero credibility. He was a poor representative and an embarrassment to the great people of South Carolina. Judging by the incompetent way he ran his campaign, it is easy to see why his military strategies have failed so badly — we can’t even beat ISIS!

    While I will unify the party, Lindsey Graham has shown himself to be beyond rehabilitation. And like the voters who rejected him, so will I!”

    Donald J. Trump

  51. DeniseVB says:

    Lola, decided to reblog your fabulous, winning, fabulous and yuuuuge, fabulous post. Thank you from the lazy bloggers 😉

  52. WMCB says:

    Prediction: Trump’s WWF and other sports connections are going to help him with the black male vote.

  53. DeniseVB says:

    Reblogged this on Stealth Magnolia and commented:

    Great read, that is, if you want to make America Great Again or want to be Venezuela.

  54. WMCB says:

    If anyone wants to read Peggy Noonan’s latest not behind a paywall, here it is. It’s another doozy.


    • mothy67 says:

      I wish one person in the media would ask me why I like Trump instead of defining me. He is a real man. Alpha male with yuuuge flaws.but he is real and not afraid to be aggressive. I think he is a lot like Oprah. She became billionaire with a talk show. The great minds at networks cannot replicate her success. She spoke plainly. A housewife wearing a size 16 could identify. Anderson Cooper, Katie Couric and Meredeth Vieara(sp?) Tried with millions behind them. Zero appea. I have very affluent friends they send their kids to private schools. They are privileged. Love obama and think life is hard on them. Their fucked up kids are special. 9 year olds taking 3 pills a day.

    • votermom says:

      Thanks for the link. Interesting insights.

    • Lulu says:

      Old Peggy is like Captain Obvious.

  55. WMCB says:

    Reports that the Oregon rally line is packed 3 hrs in advance.

  56. 1539days says:


    You’re basically writing that Trump may not be truthful about what he’s saying, but the fact that he’s never been a politician like the others is why you’re voting for him. I understand that. I also disagree. I don’t know if I can support someone who has no history of enacting change on a government level. The fact he supported Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama in the last 8 years amplifies that concern.

    • votermom says:

      Not to speak for Lola, but if it were just that she might as well have supported Ben Carson.
      From what I read, it’s because of the hyperbolic opposition to him by proven hypocrites and liars.

      I may be projecting because that’s one of my main reasons anyway. I know the media is my enemy and they hate him.
      I know the Left is my enemy and they hate him too.
      I know the elected right has repeatedly failed and betrayed me and they hate him as well.
      If nothing else, I hope electing him will cause them injury. My fervent hope is that it causes grievous injury.
      This is not revenge voting, btw, it is self-defense voting.

      • 1539days says:

        That sounds like you want Republicans to lose, like enough Republicans that the Democrats get the Senate back.

        • lyn says:

          I think Republicans no longer want the presidency, because they don’t want to give up the House and Senate. That’s why they are willing to support Hillary. (The Republicans used to be for term limits until they won the House.) Trump calls them out, and I like that. For me, Trump is worth any real or imaginary risk. The politicians have failed us. It’s time for something different.

          • 1539days says:

            I’m not much of a gambler.

          • lyn says:

            The gambling tab from our political class is $19 trillion.

          • Lulu says:

            They will win seats in the House and Senate with Trump and down ticket races too. Nothing, NOTHING has shown by polling that they will lose anything with Trump. I looked for this and it just dropped out of some ass of a pundit. It is Rove style agit-prop put out by their think tanks and the media who float trial balloons and crap for a living. They are willing to support Hillary because they are globalists first and foremost and always. And you are right about risk. When things are bad is when more risk is taken. When things are good risk is not attractive. Trump understands risk management very well. The establishment has it good so of course they don’t want to change course and incur risk. Everyone else doesn’t feel the same because we don’t share the same circumstances with the establishment. Also women are more risk adverse than men on average but if things are bad enough women will take great risks.

          • Lulu says:

            1539days says:
            May 6, 2016 at 8:06 pm
            I’m not much of a gambler.

            Yeah. We have noticed. But remember that your circumstances are not the same as others. And what you are willing to tolerate others are not. You may be much better off or in a region doing well and others are not. Also data shows that some people are extremely risk adverse by genetics and of course the politicos and media screaming all the time horrors if the richy rich and powerfully powerful are kicked aside that Armageddon will be upon us. It already is. EVERYTHING involves risk including walking to your mailbox.

            Every new president is a risk. Every national policy is a risk. Everyone gets to calculate their own risk in deciding who to vote for. I see this election as a pendulum swing back to more moderate risk in policy. A big one because the 2008 election was a swing too. Equilibrium is being sought. Trump by policy is a moderate compared to Bush and Obama.

        • votermom says:

          I don’t, actually, but I wouldn’t mind them getting purged. Guys who’ve been at the trough forever and excel kabuki and nothing else.
          I know,from our convo on your blog, that you don’t think Trump has coattails. I disagree. In Pennsylvania, for example, I think Toomey’ s only hope is to campaign enthusiastically with Trump and hope a little magic rubs off onto him. McGinty will be attached to the hip to Hillary for sure.

      • mothy67 says:

        I love when people tell me what to think. Please let some asshole behind a computer tell me what is in the heart of a blue collar worker. I have three brothers. We had bunk beds. My brothers are not homophobic. Neither are there friends. Steve was high school football captain. Under hero in year book he put my name. All his jock friends knew I was gay. Never an issue. I am godfather to two media tries to paint poor white guys as awful. Its just not true. I love straight white men, they are my brothers. I know gay people who hate their families. My dad got out of ICU and picked up his great granddaughter
        Last night I looked in on baby girl. She was asleep in my Dad’z bed with my mom and Bella and Cameron. Cam was thrown out of a car and left for dead. Bella was returned6 times to shelter. ALL asleep in my dads bed

      • That’s a pretty big part of it, VM. He certainly pisses off all the right people. But that’s just a part. There’s a calculus as well–Trump has the right temperament for the times and skills to fracture the solidarity of the Uniparty. He’s already doing it!

        I do love how Days had to twist his words into a sort of rhetorical cubism:

        I don’t know if I can support someone who has no history of enacting change on a government level.

        He didn’t want to say “no political experience” because it’s easy to refute. Trump does have it and he knows how this game is played. But you know, I guess Days wants Change You Can Believe In, which is what you’ll get with Hillary. It’s total fiction that anything will change if she’s elected. All bright lights and empty lyrics with a lot of high kicks. No thanks.

        Look, man, someone with no history at the government level is the only person I can vote for this season. I want something different, a paradigm shift. I’m aware of the risks. I’m not concerned that there might be secondary gains for Trump. That’s human nature, and not dishonest in the least.

    • elliesmom says:

      What positive change has either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders enacted? Bernie is responsible for naming a couple of post offices, and everything Hillary touches turns to crap. While Trump hasn’t held any government positions, he has built a real estate empire around the world.

      • 1539days says:

        And he wrote checks to Hillary Clinton, who has enacted little to no positive change. The Koch brothers own Georgia Pacific and Kimberly-Clark? Should David run?

        • elliesmom says:

          Why not? The Koch brothers are some of the most successful philanthropists in the country. They’ve kicked in over $1.5 billion dollars into public television, education, medical research, environmental causes, the arts, and criminal justice reform. I’d vote for David Koch in a heartbeat. His foundations outdo the Clinton foundation on every level.

          • lyn says:

            The presidency should be open to non-politicians.

          • Lulu says:

            And political parties should not have the power to select who gets to run. Trump sidestepped this trap by self funding his campaign in the primary. Now he is taking over the Republican organization by NOT letting them kick him out via their money monopoly of the nominating process. It is classic hostile takeover and the fat hogs at the trough didn’t know enough to see it coming. They are so stupid they don’t even understand their own crooked process. He was three jumps ahead of them the entire way.

        • What a fucking joke you’ve become. Don’t let Republicans lose! But I hate the Kochs as much as Harry Reid does!

          I can’t believe you think the Cooties Theory of politics will work on this crowd, after what we’ve seen and experienced. Et tu, Brutus?

          • 1539days says:

            Wow. I did not expect that reaction after your post. I assumed you were trying to explain your beliefs, not looking for an echo chamber. I’ll know better next time.

          • Don’t even think you can insult me like this while wrapping yourself in victimhood. You’ve been around for a long time and you know that people here speak their minds freely. Your weak appeal to shame over who’s donated to whom and what you think that means about their political trajectory over time was a joke in the context of our shared history. I reject your criticism and your conclusions. You are clearly the one looking for an echo chamber if you’re too sensitive to retorts.

    • Somebody says:

      Days honey the choices are down to Trump and Hillary now. Are you going to vote for some 3rd party candidate? That’s a wasted vote, but it’s your vote to do with as you please.

      You probably need more time…….I understand, but come on you were never that enthralled with creepy Cruz

      Days……..you’re not going to support Hillary and you know it……..come on ride the train

      • 1539days says:

        The number of people who are “enthralled” with Donald Trump is one thing that creeps me out.

        I don’t want to get into a war. I will answer comments directed at me. This is a pro-Trump site and I don’t plan on getting myself banned. I wanted to answer the initial post because it conflates a lot of liberal “you’re a racist!” arguments as being ones adopted by conservatives. I think conservatives have real concerns regarding electability and the overall political platform of Donald Trump.

        • votermom says:

          You won’t get banned for not liking Trump.

        • mothy67 says:

          Days please go back a year and read. This site has always been very open. Not Trump central. Walker was golden a year ago. Klown was not on Trump train. Carson and Carly were favors of the month.
          Also what does conservative mean. Rafeal Cruz and Glenn Beck freak me out. They seem to want to dictate morality. I am a 49 year old gay catholic raising a child. I have gone to hell and back begging for guidance. . Those people make me sick. I am not entirely stupid. Please talk to me. I can accept someone yelling gays are sick if they say it to my face no respect for a public charade.
          You don’t like Trump your decision but I implore you to look back. A year ago. I think resident gun toting rn grandma from texas voted for cruz.

        • Anthony says:

          You’re not gong to get banned, but you ARE going to be responded to in kind. For the most part, commenters here are a pretty polite bunch, but take no shit from ppl who post passive/aggressive BS. Your general tone is pretty offensive, but your myopia is strangely curious to behold.

        • Somebody says:

          I think Lola’s post is a refutation of something that was on Huffpo so hence the racist angle. Although there are plenty of conservatives that are hanging their hat on the racist thing too.

          As for electability only time will tell. Having been around the political block a time or two I tend to believe the cream rises to the top. Despite what pundits might claim, if Trump was able to dispatch his opponents then they were most likely no match for the Clinton machine. Hillary would have mopped the floor with Rubio, she would have cackled herself to sleep at night if her opponent was Cruz, on and on the list goes. Does Trump have the mojo to beat Hillary? Time will tell, but there sure seems to be a decided anti-establishment sentiment happening on both sides.

          As for the platform what specific things concern you? Smarter trade deals? Lower Taxes? Secure borders? Stronger military? I’m confused which one is it that doesn’t pass the conservative purity test? Shucks alive I’ve been a republican all my voting life and here I find myself confounded……..surely I’m missing something, enlighten me. I’m serious besides the fact that you have a personal distaste for Trump what exactly are the platform issues you are concerned with?

          Oh and by the by, the fact that he donated to dems doesn’t bother me. Businessmen and businesses always play both sides of the aisle, at least the smart ones do. Romney and Bain donated across the aisle, the Koch’s do, Murdoch does, hell even Soros does…..nothingburger.

          I’m not going to bother to go find the links, but I’ve seen that horse beaten to death. I believe over the past couple of decades or going back 25 years or so Trump has donated 960 million thereabouts to the GOP and GOP candidates. During that same time period he has donated approximately 580 million to dems. The heartburn most people have is that prior to 2011 he gave virtually equal amounts to both sides of the aisle in city and state elections. What is never mentioned is the fact that NYC is pretty blue, lots of dems run unopposed so it’s amazing to me that it’s even. Another thing that isn’t mention is that on the federal level his donation ratio is 2 to 1 in the GOP’s favor. I assume the donations on the dem side are to senators and congresscritters in New York state and probably some in other states where he has properties like CA and FL. Trump didn’t create this system and blaming him for how it works is disingenuous.

    • Venus says:

      Trump never supported Obama — you’re such a fucking liar. `

      • 1539days says:

        “I was his biggest cheerleader,” the multibillionaire businessman told Sean Hannity on his Fox TV show Tuesday (10/18/11) night. “If you go back three years, I’m saying, ‘Do a great job.’ I wanted him to do a great job. I still want him to do a great job.”

        • DandyTIger says:

          He was hoping he’d do well, like most Americans. He was cheering him on. That’s not “supporting” in a partisan, likes his policies, way. It’s a non partisan, hey, let’s give the guy a try, approach. He gave money to both sides, like all successful businessmen often do. I just don’t get how these common businessman, and common American things are an issue. But when I hear people say he gave money to Hillary, but don’t mention in the same breath that he gave money to GOP people, it sounds just a wee bit selective and disingenuous.

          He’s not a loyal, pure conservative. He’s not a member of either party’s establishment elite. And I understand how that bothers purists, or pro establishment GOPers. Got it. And those people may prefer to not vote for him, vote for Hillary, vote for some 3rd party, or not vote. Trump is certainly unnerving to many. I think what he represents to many Republicans, some Democrats, many independents, and many never voted non partisans, is someone that’s not a member of either party’s establishment, not a politician, and most importantly, not owned by either establishment or any related donor classes.

          I think what he represents is a restructuring of the GOP. Just like Sanders might represent a restructuring of the Dems. Rank and file members of both parties, maybe 1/3 to 1/2, or maybe more, are disgusted by their parties and want big changes. I think those changes are coming to both parties, whether Trump succeeds or not.

        • leslie says:

          I feel compelled to add something to this discussion. I, and I know I’m not alone, gave money to Dems – including HRC – for as long as I actually believed the Democrat propaganda. (And while I still believed that votes “mattered”.) I also voted D most of the time (but not always). This ended in 2008 when I learned that no matter how many of us little people donated and voted, the deck was stacked. Obviously Trump knew this earlier on, and was able to give meaningful donations to BOTH parties. Isn’t this called hedging his bets? I suppose if I had lots of money and needed gov’t approval to be successful, I might have done the same. But I digress.
          Going back to my original point … If I voted for D all along, does that mean that I can’t vote R when I believe in the R candidate. Or does it mean that I have given up the right to vote at all? Or does is mean my vote won’t count? I realize, of course, that our votes are often meaningless as the DNC and the RNC have both proven – in the open since 2008.
          It makes me crazy to hear that because in the past, Trump gave money and support to the people he either believed would win – or actually believed in, he can’t be believed in the present.
          Trump is running on the ticket of the party that didn’t already have a designated driver to begin with.
          I have said all along I will vote for THE PERSON not the party I believe in. It might or might not be Trump. It surely won’t be Hillary.

        • Venus says:

          Irrelevant to the fact that you’re a liar.

  57. lyn says:

    Trump’s speech in Eugene is interesting. He’s taking on the woman card.

  58. mothy67 says:

    Why do people think life can be easy? Raising a kid sucks ass. Children suck. It’s not happy happy fun day. You have night terrors about MURSA and sids. They get older and you get new worries oddly I feel as a pseudo parent I identify with Trump. When Hillary is with Charlotte it seems to me so orchastrated. Fake. A big part of my attraction to Trump is I sense he loves his kids. It takes yuuge money to be home with a kid. Baby brat knows someone is always there for her. Yesterday it was teeming rain. I had to get soaked as I walked her home. We went to Wendy’s with her friend. Little girl spent 27 dollars. My kid is vegan so she had a frosty. I don’t care about 27 dollars but it was sad watching her devour food. My kid hates fig newtons. I put 15 in her lunch. They were gone I said baby girl do not look at me in that tone of voice and lie. She informed me I was an asshole and you cannot look at someone in a tone of voice.bitch. Girl has no food. I noticed two weeks ago stuff was gone. New school rules if your child packs lunch it has to meet meechelles guidelines. You can go to jail if you pack a bad lunch. My kid started taking those stupid pj frozen sammies to school. I said you are not eating nine sandwhiches. I had bought bananas, apples and grapes All gone. I said baby are you stealing food to feed friends. She said yes. WTF? I buy hundreds of protein bars because she is vegan. I looked in my pantry and saw empty boxes. I said babe are you feeding y our friends snack bars. Yep. I said those are expensive. 10 dollRs a bar. My brat said guess what fucktard a little girl is not going to sleep hungry tonight. I love my brat but s h e calls me fucktard. How many 9 year olds have a great gay uncle. Love the fact she is funny.

  59. WMCB says:

  60. mothy67 says:

    I find the accusation that this place is a Trump .site so funny. Go back one year ago it was Scott Walker. . Klown has always exhibited a degree of insolence. Place is rude but caring. Never a bot stop. Its a rarity online. We know alot about each other. I was walking home and I was thinking about Jadzia living in France studying law. Call me wierd but I do not make a habit of thinking about international law students. Color me freak just not how I spend my day. Many others might disagree but I think I am funny. My humor is strength. My baby girl can laugh. She calls me fucktard.

  61. mothy67 says:

    This is funny. My college roommate went and died. I refer to my best friends children as the Lannisters. Game of Thrones. She has a 5 year old that I call Tyrion Lannister. Her oldest son was in John Hopkins. They are filthy rich but he had pnemonia. I called hospital. She said I need a drink. What does a friend do? I bought her a Game of Thrones flask. She sent me back a picture of her 5 year old drinking from the flask. I see this place that way.

  62. DandyTIger says:

    I would characterize many on this site, given the many disaffected former Dems, former GOPers, and indys, as burn both parties down. They’re both private clubs that ignore or even hate their members. They have no interest in actually making anything better for average Americans. Part of many people’s initial interest in GOP candidates was to react or balance years of Obama. But also to remedy the rot in the Dem party in general. I think most of us have had no illusion that the GOP was any better. It’s just that the pendulum needs to swing the other way. But also because lately it seems more practical, rational people have been working their way through the GOP system. E.g., Walker. As the snobbish elite kept pushing their way past voters, became more hateful and dismissive of voters, I think we, and many in the country, reacted and moved towards Trump. I would say the Dems, Obama, but mostly the GOPe “created” Trump. Whether he wins or not, that fire isn’t going out. And it will spread to the Dems as well. If Trump wins, I’d say immediately. If not, it might take another 4 or so years.

    Winter is coming.

    • Dora says:

      A perfect description. And yes – burn both parties down! There is only one thing here that doesn’t apply to me. I didn’t have to move toward Trump. I’ve been on the Trump Train since the day he announced. And the train is still speeding ahead.

    • Lulu says:

      The pendulum swings. Action, reaction. Cause and effect. So many cannot grasp the concept.

      • taw46 says:

        I have been waiting almost 8 yrs for that pendulum to swing. GOPe did not even give it a nudge. Along came Trump and just shoved it. Now the voters are pushing it with all there might. Me like!

    • lyn says:

      “Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before.”
      ― Mae West

  63. Dora says:

    Pundits keep asking him about this, thinking he might have changed his mind. They aren’t used to a candidate who means what he says.

    TRUMP DOUBLE DOWNS: “I don’t care if it hurts me in the general election, I am standing by my call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US”


    • Lulu says:

      Polling shows only 70% of everybody globally agrees with him. Even the French don’t want any more Muslims. Enough already.

  64. Dora says:

    Two more passengers on the Trump Train – Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn

    • Anthony says:

      Saw that the other day – Awesome!

      • leslie says:

        I thought I saw on Twitter, it was photo shopped.

        • Dora says:

          I just learned on another blog that the picture was photo shopped. I’m disappointed.

          • leslie says:

            Oh well, there are many, many others who are Trump fans. Plus, He won!!

          • Somebody says:

            Dora it’s entirely possible that Kurt Russell is on the Trump train, he’s one of the rare Hollywood types that isn’t afraid to let everyone know he’s conservative. Goldie? I don’t know she’s all over the place. She mostly eschews politics, well personality politics, she has taken stands on particular issues. The issues she’s taken stands on cut across the aisle, so who knows. She endorsed libertarian Gary Johnson in 2012.

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