Now It’s A Pneumonia Epidemic


The story continues to evolve. This comes from the investigative journalists at People:

Pneumonia Bug That Struck Hillary Clinton also Seriously Sickened Several Members of Her Staff

The illness that sickened Hillary Clinton with pneumonia and caused her to have to be escorted away from September 11 ceremonies in New York on Sunday also struck down several members of her campaign team at Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, PEOPLE has learned.

“Everyone’s been sick,” a campaign source tells PEOPLE.

At the end of August, two weeks before Clinton was diagnosed with pneumonia, a debilitating bug was making the rounds among staff at her headquarters and campaign aides who travel with Clinton, a source tells PEOPLE.

At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook. Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment, the source says. One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER by ambulance after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration, the source said.

Clinton has canceled plans to visit California on Monday and Tuesday so that she can rest and recover at her home in Chappaqua, New York, according to her campaign.

The Clinton campaign initially blamed the 68-year-old Democratic nominee’s health issue at the 9/11 memorial on being overheated. Hours later, her doctor released a statement revealing that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday.

Video taken at the event showed Clinton stumble as she is helped into an SUV by staffers near the World Trade Center on Sunday.

Later in the day, Clinton emerged from daughter Chelsea’s apartment and was seen smiling and waving to the crowd.

A source who was with the candidate on Sunday tells PEOPLE, “She is fine now. She had been standing for a while in the heat. After she cooled off at Chelsea’s, she made a point to take a walk outside Chelsea’s apartment building to prove she was OK.”

Presidential campaigns are always grueling – interminable work days, hours spent on and off of planes, the stress of the high stakes – for the candidate and staff and traveling press corps alike.

With the Clintons, the story always keep changing. Until recently they were denying that she had any health problems at all. Then they said she had allergies. Then they said she was overheated.

Here’s Clinton flack Peter Daou with the hottest take of all:

Hillary Clinton’s feat of strength obliterates months of health conspiracies

After being diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, Hillary Clinton ran a two-hour national security meeting, gave a press conference, and spent an hour and a half in the heat at a September 11 commemoration ceremony. It was an impressive feat of physical strength that obliterated months of health conspiracies.

Baghdad Bob couldn’t have laid it on any thicker.



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171 Responses to Now It’s A Pneumonia Epidemic

  1. helenk3 says:

    so she has the rocking pneumonia and the boogie woogie blues?

  2. helenk3 says:

    got this on facebook needed to share

  3. Hot Air:

    This calls into question almost everything they have said about Hillary’s health during that period. According to the timeline provided by People’s Sandra Sobieraj Westfall and Stephanie Petit, the pneumonia began sweeping through the Hillary campaign about the same time that people began questioning Hillary’s coughing fits in public appearances. The campaign responded by accusing people of participating in conspiracy theories even while sending some of their own staff to hospitals and clinics for a contagious version of pneumonia.

    The campaign announced yesterday that Hillary had been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday. Do they expect people to believe that no one on Team Hillary connected her coughing fits to the sudden epidemic of pneumonia on the campaign and didn’t get her checked out immediately? And with this knowledge, why did her team take Hillary to Chelsea’s apartment and her toddler granddaughter rather than to a hospital to manage the acute health crisis of her collapse, where contagion could be contained?

  4. NBC:

    Clinton’s campaign has been tight-lipped about the Sunday incident, releasing only two short statements throughout the day. Many lingering questions could be easily cleared up by the campaign, while others will take time. Here are nine big questions we still have:

    1.) Why hide the pneumonia diagnosis?

    Clinton suffered a coughing attack last week during an appearance in Cleveland, which she dismissed as seasonal allergies. She received her pneumonia diagnosis on Friday, but the public was not told about it until hours after the incident at the memorial, raising questions about whether Clinton had any plans to ever inform the public. Between the diagnosis and the near-collapse, Clinton appeared at two fundraisers, ran a national security working session, and held a press conference.

    Clinton’s campaign appears to have, at best, withheld information from the public and — at worst — misled them by aggressively batting down “conspiracy theories” that her coughing fit was anything more than allergies. Opponents are already seeing the incident as proof of their claims that Clinton has been hiding health issues. And others may now be more incredulous of the campaign’s statements on her health.

    2.) Has Clinton been otherwise ill in recent days?

    Has she had pneumonia in the past? Pneumonia is common, but still a potentially dangerous disease that sends about 1 million people to the hospital every year and kills about 50,000, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    3.) Who made the call not to go to the hospital and when?

    And did Clinton lose consciousness at all? After leaving the memorial, Clinton went to her daughter Chelsea’s apartment and was later examined by her doctor at her own home in Chappaqua, New York. Why was it decided not to visit a hospital immediately?

    I can think of a few more, like how was she treated for dehydration? Was she given an IV, and if so, by whom?

  5. Anthony says:

    This is pretty funny. Hope it embeds

  6. helenk3 says:

    aaww the media is mad because nobody told them

    maybe if they remembered how to investigate they would have known

  7. elliesmom says:

    When someone on my FB feed puts something positive about Hillary or something nasty about Trump, I have a canned response today.

    “I hope Hillary Clinton gets well soon. I’d like to see her back on her feet in time for the September 26th debate. Pneumonia can be debilitating for an older person. Two weeks isn’t much time to recover especially for someone whose schedule doesn’t allow for complete bed rest. So much is riding on demonstrating she has the stamina for the job. I also hope when she’s sufficiently recovered to resume her daily schedule, she’s take the time to make a PSA reminding seniors to get a pneumonia shot when they go for their flu shot.”

  8. DeniseVB says:

    And so it begins. I’mma gonna need a bigger roll of tinfoil …..

  9. This guy claims to be the “World’s leading expert in forensic pathology and forensic neuropathology”.

    • Somebody says:

      Hillary will never willingly step aside. They’ll have to pry the nomination from her cold, dead hands. It’s her turn Gdamnit

    • CiscoTheDeplorable says:

      I understand that the Madame Tussaud wax museum has removed from storage and refurbished the Biden figure .
      Comes with a certificate of health.

  10. Dora says:

    I don’t know much about this man at all. I don’t like what I’m finding out.


    Tim Kaines Radical Roots

  11. The responses are hilarious.

  12. foxyladi14 says:

    I am so proud, and happy to be in this group. 😀

  13. taw46 says:

    “Well, not every, but many. Admittedly I live in Hollywood, a wildly skewed demographic, but unlike most denizens of Tinseltown, I have spent a considerable amount of time recently among these so-called “deplorables,” aka, in movie parlance, “flyover people.” I can report observing absolutely no misogyny, racism, homophobia, or even Islamophobia — unless you count the occasional poster condemning radical Islam, not very phobic in my book, especially on the anniversary of 9/11.

    I can also report — and this is the interesting, although perhaps not surprising, part — that these “deplorables” were almost always a helluva lot nicer than the people I have run into over the years in Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, including, one can safely say, most of Hillary’s fundraiser audience Friday night.”

  14. Dora says:

    If this doesn’t show be sure to click the link. It’s a FB post from Clinton’s look-alike, describing the lengths the campaign went to in order to convince people she was the real deal.

    • votermom says:

      I edited the comment to remove “mobile”

      and wow!

    • elliesmom says:

      If you watch the video, face front the resemblance to Hillary is pretty good, but there’s a profile shot that just isn’t right. The chin is all wrong.

      • lorac says:

        But she talks to the press outside, you can clearly hear it’s her voice – so the “body double” would have to have Hillary’s vocal chords or be Rich Little….

        And personally, I think that tweet should have the url for where that text came from, as it is, it can’t be checked out…

        • lateblum says:

          If it comes from a facebook account will it have a url? I saw the same on twitter yesterday. I couldn’t do anything about it though as I was on my phone. and just like ginainmo, my phone and I do not especially like one another.

    • Shez ZK says:

      Oh sure, the right arm and elbow that she fractured from a “fall” in June 2009 while at State, huh. She wore a sling on her arm for a long time, although I don’t see anyone tweeting those pics. Yet. They seem to be concentrating on a more recent stroke.

  15. DeniseVB says:

    Too soon, part deux ?

  16. swanspirit says:

    So, she didn’t get a pneumonia shot? She doesn’t take care of her health? When her staff was contagious they remained in contact with her? No precautions were taken to protect the candidate?
    Have a presser Hillary, I dare you. Far too many questions and inconsistencies. What a crock.
    The Dems don’t care about her health, they just want to shoehorn her into that office.

    • taw46 says:

      Apparently Bill and Chelsea don’t care either.

    • lateblum says:

      Or, it isn’t pneumonia.

      • swanspirit says:

        Of course it isn’t pneumonia. Pneumonia just happens to be the most convenient diagnosis that explains a few of symptoms. We still have no explanation for that postural rigidity. People usually “sag” or become flaccid when they lose consciousness, or muscle control. She never bent her neck in that video, that I could see

        • lateblum says:

          I was wracking my brain because what I saw yesterday on the videos of Hillary’s episode from “dehydration r/t pneumonia” looked so very familiar. But I couldn’t place my experience with the posture and stiffness and inability to move her limbs or to go from point A to point B. Until now.
          One of my favorite patients in the last many years was a middle aged woman with seizure disorder. The way Hillary appeared before, and then later, during her episode, was identical to the way this patient was before, during and even after her seizures. She almost always knew (and I learned to know as well) when she was about to experience a seizure. She would tell whoever was around her what was about to happen so they wouldn’t be afraid, might be able to let others know, and to keep her safe if need be.
          I witnessed several of her seizures in which she would stiffen, and often, if not already on the ground, would become so rigid that she could not sit, and would have to be placed in whatever safe location and position was possible. This is so similar to what I viewed in the videos from yesterday.
          When she “came out of” her seizures, she might – or might not – know what happened. She often feigned a chipper disposition following a seizure. She’d often smile, wave to others, wink and engage with a very happy disposition. Other times, she would become very defensive. She might fend off the concerns of others and sometimes even become violent – slamming doors and sometimes throwing things. Not until after I worked with her, did she acknowledge her seizures to others. She secluded herself so she wouldn’t have to reveal their existence. After working together she was able to talk about her seizures, talk about how they affected her and her self esteem, how they affected others, and how they affected her relationships.

          These seizures also triggered some paranoia. She was often defensive around strangers and also some people with whom she was very close. She believed others were conspiring against her when they were not, and was angry much of the time. At least in the beginning of our work together.
          These seizures were a result of a traumatic brain injury (TBI) that occurred in early childhood. Another woman I saw who had similar symptoms and behaviors, had experienced a TBI (concussion from an auto accident) as an adult. TBIs often are the trigger for seizures. They are also a cause of personality changes, mood disorders, or extreme lability.
          I think HRC may even carry a diagnosis of Seizure Disorder (generalized) and this may well be the reason her team did not respond as if it were unusual or as if she were in real danger to herself or to others. This may also be the reason she was able to hug and play with her grandchildren and even the little girl (planted) at the doorway of Chelsea’s condo.
          If HRC does indeed have a generalized seizure disorder, she may not be a danger, but she should not be POTUS anywhere. Those seizures pose a greater risk to the US than they do to HRC. (imho)

          • swanspirit says:

            That sounds much more likely, and closer to reality , than any diagnosis of pneumonia.
            But of course a diagnosis of seizures really would end Hilz candidacy.

          • Somebody says:

            POTUS with a seizure disorder, wouldn’t that be fun during negotiations. She could be the entertainment at the G-20, smh.

          • Somebody says:

            One thing it wouldn’t impact would be any kind of crisis, clearly she can’t be bothered so no need to worry about confusing our military. I doubt she’d ever bother to grace the doors of the situation room, if anything she’d delegate that.

            POTUS with a seizure disorder sounds more like a Monty Python script than reality, but hey anything seems possible these days.

          • lateblum says:

            There’s always Huma.

  17. mcnorman says:

    Milton Wolf is an actual physician. His tweets are very disturbing. Provides stats on sinus venous thrombosis. Hillary NEVER fully recovered. The mere fact that the woman was wearing fresnel glasses for two months after that clot should tell you that she has serious issues.

  18. Kathy says:

    Just saw James Woolsey take ‘Berman and Balduan’ to school, in a real politic way, on CNN. Left her speechless for a bit. He is advising Trump now. I think there may be a lot of money in setting up a course on how to rip Big Media..of course the person would have to be well informed. It sends thrills up my leg when a pro takes them down leaving them speechless.

  19. 49erDweet says:

    Happy birthday, Helen. You, yourself, are a gift!
    PS: Running low on popcorn! Best election run-up, ever!!!!

  20. Dora says:

  21. Shez ZK says:

    Hey Denise, just remembered on a thread from yesterday you mentioned following a dude on Gab that you couldn’t seem to Unfollow. I think I had accidently followed him back too because he had a name like ‘Gab Fairy’ and I thought it might be our Freedom Fairy. Yikes, I Unfollowed him immediately, yep he’s a tits troll.

    But I can’t remember if I went directly to his profile page to click his Unfollow button,
    or if I pulled up my own Followers list page,
    or if I pulled up my own Following page.
    All 3 of those pages should have that button to Unfollow him. Was wondering if you ever got it to work?

    • DeniseVB says:

      I continued my Gab whining on the Gab Club TCH page. LOL, I think my tittie guy is gary?, but I do remember a guy who posted a .gif of bouncing boobies, followed by a serious news item, and got more likes for his bouncing boobalahs. 🙂

  22. helenk3 says:

    THANK YOU for all the birthday wishes.

  23. DeniseVB says:

    Just missed this? Donald staying classy ! No wonder the left is having vapors over Don, Jr. posting a “white supremaist” Pepe the Frog symbol, lol.

  24. DeniseVB says:

    Good grief, just embarrassed myself with I think, the Gab guy on twitter? Initially sent him the wrong link to my local paper, then corrected with the right link. The wrong link had two squirrels f**king. You can see my pedaling back here….

  25. votermom says:

  26. Shez ZK says:

    Happy Happy Birthday Sweet Helen! Hope you have a wonderful day full of love. Can’t wait to hear your voice again on the next Crawdad Crew radio show.

  27. helenk3 says:

    this picture says a lot

  28. Anthony says:

    Aaaaaannnnnnnd BOOM! The first Dems for Trump SuperPac hits the ground running!

  29. 49erDweet says:

    OT In case y’all thought that pesky fire in Big Sur was finally out……it isn’t. Still burning. Still only 60% contained. Still rumbling south southeasterly and threatening homes. New evacuations ordered yesterday. Just keeping you informed.

  30. DandyTIger says:

  31. lateblum says:

    I’m not certain where to post this, so I’ll put it here… Poor Hillary

    When I noticed the puffiness, I wondered whether she is being prescribed prednisone for her cough and respiratory problems. There are some pretty significant side effects from this drug that can interfere with normal functioning.

    Serious Side Effects. severe allergic reactions, including: skin rash. itching or hives. changes in emotions or moods, including depression. changes in vision. eye pain. infection. Signs may include: fever or chills. high blood sugar. Signs include: increased thirst. swelling of your ankles or feet.

    • lateblum says:

      I didn’t post this for the opinions of Napolitano, but to show Hillary’s face and to express some thoughts i had about what could possibly be going on with her health.
      It would be so much simpler if she and her campaign people would be open with the people. But since they are not, and despite the meanness of her rabid supporters, we are left to speculate about the people who are running to lead the country for the next 4 years. And frankly, it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

      • Somebody says:

        Steroids can cause a host of problems. Generally someone on steroids not only has a puffy face, but if on them long enough gets a significant belly pooch. Also, yes swelling of ankles and feet.

        The most pronounced side effect of steroids would be the mood swings… head spinning around backward kind of rage fits or inconsolable crying jags. Generally speaking the vast majority of patients have increased hunger and thirst, a small percentage have severe nausea, most are ravenous though. Insomnia is also a fairly common side effect, particularly of prednisone.

        All the other side effects are possible, but less common. There are also additional side effects not listed that are more severe like steroid induced psychosis. Also they didn’t list potential side effects from long term use…….but we don’t know if she’s even on them, let alone on them for an extended period of time.

        I’m real familiar with steroids, multiple different steroids….unfortunately.

      • swanspirit says:

        She does look little moonfaced in that photo. Definitely some facial edema, there.

        • She definitely “had some work done” since she left Foggy Bottom.

        • lateblum says:

          I agree with you. It was the moonface that initially caught my eye as it related to the use of prednisone. I, too have a familiarity with steroids – especially prednisone. I was only on it a short time, only 3 -4 weeks. I hated it.

          • Somebody says:

            My daughter was on high dose decadron, later switched to high dose prednisone for years. She also had to be pre-medicated due to reactions with solumedrol. My MIL was on and off steroids, as well as my dogs.

          • lateblum says:

            OMG, you certainly do have experience with steroids. How are they all now? More than that, how are you?

          • Somebody says:

            Well my MIL passed away from a stroke in 2010 @ 89. My daughter is doing fine, she has some long term side effects but nothing we can’t handle. One dog passed and the other one is still here.

  32. Somebody says:

    Soooooo I couldn’t find my drink I just poured. I looked and looked where did I set it down???

    Found it, the two year old napped it and drank it. She just downed an entire 12 ounce diet coke with caffeine…….hubby will be home in a couple of minutes, I’m thinking maybe I need to run to the store, LOL!

    • Somebody says:

      Seriously autocorrect? She n-a-b-b-e-d the drink……grabbed it and ran off with it.

      • votermom says:

        Is this the same gkid that keeps dvr-ing Shep?

        Baby genius …

        • Somebody says:

          Yep, one in the same. She gets into everything. Has no interest in toys, unless they are brand new. Once she’s figured them she’s bored with them. She prefers to get into stuff and do things like paint my kitchen cabinets and floor with bananas……or record random programs, or a million other things.

          Due to her birthday she won’t be eligible for pre-K for 3 years and that’s only half day. Full day kindergarten is 4 flipping years away…….I don’t think I’ll make it or maybe she won’t. She is B-A-D, smart true, bad……exhausting

      • Try “She gaffled up the drink and bounced.”

    • lateblum says:

      Be happy you have another human to blame this on. Here, I have only myself and my feeble. addled brain to get me from one room to another without losing things or my way. I took out a bottle of water this morning to take to PT with me. I left the water on the piano near the front door and left without it because I couldn’t remember what I had done with it and I was too late to go looking around for it. 😦

      • votermom says:

        We have an invisible thief who sneaks into our house and steals stuff.
        And later, sometimes much later, sneaks back in and returns them.

        That’s the only logical explanation.

      • swanspirit says:

        I call that hiding things from myself. I just did it 5 minutes ago. I went looking around for two dropcloths I bought at Wal-Mart that I am going to use to make no sew curtains . I spent a good five minutes looking, before I remembered I left them in the trunk of the car..

  33. Dora says:

    Another busy day for Donald Trump.

  34. jennifer lyn says:

    I think Hillary is sick (beyond morally) and more than just walking pneumonia. I also think that, even more importantly, her numbers are sick and they are going to replace her with Biden. I am seriously concerned because Hillary is beatable Biden is more of a candidate just because he is a drunken idiot with no morals yet has less negatives according to powers that be. Biden is really a class one jerk but people like him. COME ON PEOPLE get a life and a brain. Anyway, I think Billary will fight it hard but I think that the Power elites are worried about us. GOOD. GO TRUMP GO AMERICA.

  35. votermom says:

  36. 1539days says:

    Hillary Fever: Catch it.

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