Trolling With Pepe Trump


It turns out you CAN make this shit up.

George Stephanopoulos: Pepe the Frog ‘Well-Known Symbol of the White Supremacist Movement’

In an interview Friday with Donald Trump Jr, George Stephanopoulos claimed that he had shared a “well known symbol of the white supremacist movement,” when he shared a photoshopped image depicting his father next to Pepe the Frog.

“You had an Instagram post last week that included Pepe the Frog, which is now a well-known symbol of the white supremacist movement,” Stephanopoulos alleged in an interview on ABC’s Good Morning America.

Trump Jr responded by saying, “I’ve never even heard of Pepe the Frog. I bet 90% of your viewers haven’t heard of Pepe the Frog. I thought it was a frog in a wig — I thought it was funny, I had no idea that there was any connotation there.”

He added that the accusations against Pepe were a sign that journalists cannot credibly attack his father’s policy proposals. “They don’t even have answers for those things. So what do they do? They have to attack me.”

The row over Pepe the Frog, a popular Internet meme in use since 2008, was initiated by the Clinton campaign after Elizabeth Chan, one of Clinton’s senior strategists, wrote a blog post in which she claimed Pepe was a “symbol associated with white supremacy.”

It amazes me how quickly Pepe went from unknown to a “symbol associated with white supremacy” to a “well-known symbol of the white supremacist movement”.

But wait! There’s more!

Stephanopoulos did not disclose during this interview, and does not disclose during coverage of the 2016 election, that he worked in the White House as Senior Adviser to the President during Bill Clinton’s first term. ABC News has designated Stephanopoulos the lead anchor in its 2016 election coverage.

I personally have never cared for the way that people in Washington DC move back and forth from campaigns to administrations to the media to lobbying to highly paid jobs on Wall Street. That town is more incestuous than rural Arkansas.

But I digress.

How did Pepe become a well-known symbol of the white supremacist movement? Olivia Nuzzi goes for a Pulitzer with this investigative scoop:

How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol

The green frog was behind the United States side of the metal fence at the country’s southernmost border, smirking and holding a Donald Trump campaign button up to his chin.

A caricature of a Mexican couple—the man dressed in a sombrero and poncho, the woman with braided hair and an infant in her arms—looked out at him through the barricade and cried.

Then the frog was someplace else entirely, this time covered in Nazi insignia: above his smirk, the phrase “SKIN HEAD” and a swastika; over his left eyelid, “14,” the numeric shorthand for “we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”; and over his right eyelid, “88,” which stands for “Heil Hitler.”

And there the frog was yet again, standing at a lectern stamped with the presidential seal, a red tie hanging from his green neck, Trump’s iconic hair arranged on his head and an American flag at his back.
This is Pepe, a cartoon amphibian introduced to the world sans swastikas and Trump associations in 2005, on Myspace, in the artist Matt Furie’s comic strip Boy’s Club, and popularized on 4chan in the ensuing 11 years, culminating in 2015, when teens shared Pepe’s likeness so many times he became the biggest meme on Tumblr. (Furie did not respond to an interview request from The Daily Beast.)


@JaredTSwift is an anonymous white nationalist who claims to be 19 years old and in school someplace on the West Coast. He told me there is “an actual campaign to reclaim Pepe from normies.”

Normies are basics—agreeable, mainstream members of society who have no knowingly abhorrent political views or unsavory hobbies. They are Katy Perry, and when they latch onto a meme, the meme dies the way your favorite band dies when it sells out and licenses a song to Chevrolet. When mainstream culture gets in on the joke, in other words, the joke is ruined forever.

The campaign to reclaim Pepe from normies was an effort to prevent this sort of death, but it also had the effect of desensitizing swaths of the Internet to racist, but mostly anti-Semitic, ideas supported by the so-called alt-right movement.

It began in late 2015 on /r9k/, a controversial 4chan board where, as on any message board, it can be difficult to discern how serious commenters are being or if they’re just fucking around entirely. Nevertheless, /r9k/ has been tied to Elliot Rodger—the UC Santa Barbara shooter who killed six people in 2014—who found fans there, and GamerGate. There, Pepe transformed from harmless cartoon to big green monster.

“We basically mixed Pepe in with Nazi propaganda, etc. We built that association,” @JaredTSwift said.

He sent me a “rare Pepe,” an ironic categorization for certain versions of the meme: Pepe, his eyes red and irises swastika-shaped, against a trippy rainbow backdrop. “Do with it what you will,” he said.
Building the Trump association came next, after which @JaredTSwift said the images got crossover appeal. They began to move from 4chan to Twitter, which is when “journalists were exposed to it via Trump memes.”


“Most memes are ephemeral by nature, but Pepe is not,” @JaredTSwift told me. “He’s a reflection of our souls, to most of us. It’s disgusting to see people (‘normies,’ if you will) use him so trivially. He belongs to us. And we’ll make him toxic if we have to.”

@JaredTSwift said some of the support for Trump was in jest, but for most of his cohorts, it’s sincere. He even claimed to have voted for Trump in the primary himself, wherever it is he lives, and said he’d vote for him in the general, too.

“In a sense, we’ve managed to push white nationalism into a very mainstream position,” he said. “Trump’s online support has been crucial to his success, I believe, and the fact is that his biggest and most devoted online supporters are white nationalists. Now, we’ve pushed the Overton window. People have adopted our rhetoric, sometimes without even realizing it. We’re setting up for a massive cultural shift.”

Another anonymous white nationalist, @PaulTown_, claimed to be “in my late 20s,” but declined to say where he exists geographically, other than to confirm that, every few months, he meets the members of his community in New York City. He estimated the broad #FrogTwitter movement to consist of about 30 people but said 10 core members helped plot it out over drinks in late 2015, before taking to /r9k/.
“We all do some weightlifting, so we met through friends involved in that scene,” he said. “Turning Pepe into a white nationalist icon was one of our original goals, although we’ve had our hands in many other things.”

One of those things has been helping to turn Taylor Swift into an “Aryan goddess.” When several publications (Broadly, Slate, and The Washington Post) this week reported on the alt-right’s fixation on the pop star, #FrogTwitter was somewhat triumphant. “I never thought that would work,” @JaredTSwift said, “but they finally noticed.”

@PaulTown_ characterized Pepe as “an experiment” the group used “as a test.”

“As you can see,” he said, “it went better than we could ever have imagined.”

I'm an Aryan Goddess??

I’m an Aryan Goddess??

I’m shocked and stunned. How is this possible?

Make the jump to find out.

Here’s How Two Twitter Pranksters Convinced The World That Pepe The Frog Meme Is Just A Front For White Nationalism

Pepe the green frog meme’s unmitigated rise into pop culture comes amid hysteria that the internet cartoon is little more than a stand-in for white nationalism. But it turns out the original story that prompted the panic is more or less a complete troll job.

The Daily Beast’s Olivia Nuzzi wrote a piece in May striving to describe and trace the genesis of Pepe in the alt-right scene, a nascent, illiberal political movement focused on preserving white identity and Western civilization. In the process, Nuzzi just ended up repeating various made-up stories from the only two people she interviewed from “Frog Twitter”: Paul Town (@PaulTown_) and Jared Taylor Swift (@JaredTSwift).

Frog Twitter is an offshoot, alt-right subculture primarily interested in memes, aesthetics and trolling political figures.

Since then, Pepe as white nationalist has become a meme of its own sort, circulated through liberal circles, cable networks and think pieces. Rounding out this tidal wave of whinery, Pepe made an appearance on Hillary Clinton’s own campaign site as part of an effort by the campaign to try and associate Donald Trump Jr. with white supremacy.

The explainer on Clinton’s site features a direct quote from Jared Taylor Swift, one of the two accounts Nuzzi interview for her story.

“[I]n recent months, Pepe’s been almost entirely co-opted by the white supremacists who call themselves the ‘alt-right.’ They’ve decided to take back Pepe by adding swastikas and other symbols of anti-Semitism and white supremacy,” Hillary Clinton’s explainer notes, quoting “prominent white supremacist” Swift from Nuzzi’s article: “We basically mixed Pepe in with Nazi propaganda, etc. We built that association.”

Months after flippantly giving that quote to Nuzzi, Swift is still having a good laugh about it.

“I think the most ridiculous thing is that a random guy on the internet who trolled a journalist once is now a ‘prominent white supremacist.’ I mean, the only accurate part of that is the ‘white’ part,” Swift told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “And my Italian ancestry means that even that is disputed!”

Swift created his Twitter account in November 2015. His Twitter name is a tribute to Jared Taylor, a white nationalist, alt-right leader and founder of the magazine American Renaissance. Paul Town created his account in January 2016.

The troll consisted of Town and Swift feeding an outrageous narrative to Nuzzi in the hopes she would scoop it up and feature as many quotes as possible– a fairly common practice among various alt-right groups to gain in-group status.


Private conversations between Frog Twitter and Olivia Nuzzi provided to The Daily Caller News Foundation show the extent of the troll, which started after she began the Swift interview with, “Can I ask you some stupid questions?”

Nuzzi quoted Paul Town describing how Frog Twitter met for drinks in 2015 to plot appropriating the Pepe meme for white nationalism. Frog Twitter then supposedly coordinated a group effort to seed the meme on various imageboards.

“There was no ‘plot’ to take a cartoon frog and make it a symbol of white supremacy,” Paul Town told TheDCNF. “That’s absurd on the face of it.”

It doesn’t get much better from there for Nuzzi’s narrative.

There was no Frog Twitter meetup — they did not meet for drinks to discuss green frogs. They did not plot in 2015. There was no group experiment. They did not coordinate efforts on /r9k/ or /pol/, two imageboards on 4chan and 8chan, where memes are born and subsequently end up in the public. Jared Taylor Swift says he isn’t actually 19. He doesn’t live on the West Coast. They didn’t turn Taylor Swift, the pop singer, into an “Aryan Goddess.”

And most importantly, it’s just not true that the biggest online supporters of Donald Trump are “white nationalists.”

“Basically, I interspersed various nuggets of truth and exaggerated a lot of things, and sometimes outright lied — in the interest of making a journalist believe that online Trump supporters are largely a group of meme-jihadis who use a cartoon frog to push Nazi propaganda. Because this was funny to me,” Swift told TheDCNF.

“The idea that every major Trump supporter online is secretly a neo-Nazi, for one. I mean, it’s just not true. But it’s the kind of thing that a journalist will readily believe.”

Paul Town agreed.

“The funny thing is that we were helping Olivia’s narrative, so we probably could have added in a bunch of insane stuff and she would have still run with the story,” he told TheDCNF. “Now we have MSNBC and the Clinton campaign citing a troll story about a meme.”

Olivia first started with Swift, who led her on with a hilarious, nonsensical and over-the-top description of Pepe, namely that “Most memes are ephemeral by nature, but Pepe is not. He’s a reflection of our souls, to most of us. It’s disgusting to see people (‘normies,’ if you will) use him so trivially. He belongs to us. And we’ll make him toxic if we have to.”

Swift provided the quote to Olivia just to see if she would print it. She did.

“I was talking like normies were infidels and I was a terrorist or something,” Swift told TheDCNF.

“I made my stuff a lot more tame than Paul,” Swift added. “I wanted her to think I was serious. Seems likely she’d have just run with anything I told her tho.”

After the interview, Swift sent Olivia to Paul for him to provide more inside details of the “plot” behind Pepe.

“More than anything, I wanted to set it up for Paul to sell her on something crazy,” Swift said. “That’s why I enlisted him.”


The stewards of this Twitter world are notoriously capricious and trolltastic. They could even retract this mea culpa of sorts. Either way, this is almost certainly the case: A journalist with a clear lack of healthy skepticism and an added dose of internet dopiness got duped.

“I mean, imagine, some unknown high school Twitter troll lying about the origins of a cartoon frog meme somehow made it onto a presidential campaign’s official website as a ‘prominent white supremacist,’” Swift said. “That’s insane.”

Nuzzi did not respond to a request for comment from TheDCNF.

They were pulling her leg and it came right off like a cheap prosthetic.



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146 Responses to Trolling With Pepe Trump

  1. dm says:

    I had no clue what the hell Pepe was or what it was supposed to represent…I think I’ve seen the image before but have no recollection of understanding that image represented anything…again, way out of the loop.

  2. Somebody says:

    The stupid it burns!!!

    OMG so the MSM was punked? The Clinton campaign was punked?? Not only were they punked, they bought it hook, line and sinker. No fact checking, nothing, just run with it.

    Seriously think about it, in one example you have journalists that are entrusted with telling the masses what is happening in the world. It’s their job to sift through the bullshit and get to the facts, but instead they buy into a prank pulled by a couple of teens. They accept as fact and proof positive the word of a couple of twitter trolls.

    In the second example you have someone on the staff of a major political party’s presidential campaign. Someone this candidate has chosen and apparently trusts. Apparently Clinton trust her enough to make a speech on this very topic. That in and of itself should be enough to seriously call into question Clinton’s intelligence.

    Seeing all of this laid out, suddenly our shitty trade deals and the ridiculous Iran deal come into sharper focus.

    BTW Donald Jr. seemed to handle it all just fine. What utter bull, but it also shows they are desperate and grasping at straws.

    Also, poor Taylor Swift perhaps she should sue.

  3. mothy67 says:

    It’s pathetic.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    In other words, we’re deplorable. Too bad GeorgieS and the rest of those news whores didn’t take up the cause of BLM and SJW “movement”, which are nasty, hating slime buckets of Obama’s America failures.

    In other words, if you support Trump, you’re even worse than deplorable? So vote Hillary? Ha.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    BOOM !

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Les Deplorables is trending now on the twitter, wonder how long it will last this time?

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Good Morning Deplorables 😀

  8. Shez ZK says:

    What’s even funnier is that they and tons of others were openly mocking the Troll Job they were pulling on the corrupt media, right on Twitter. To click on something they tweeted to Nuzzi was a laugh riot of comments, they fell about the place when she published. I call it she fell for it hook, line, sinker, and the whole fucking boat. *gribbet*

    May as well call it Kimmel Pepe lol. The media activists got the ever living fuck trolled out of them. Did they ever make a Pepe that’s twerking and catches ass on fire? I’m sure I saw that suggested too.

  9. taw46 says:

    “Right now, Trump has it all,” the Washington Post’s Robert Costa said on MSNBC on Friday morning. “He has his property debuting in D.C. He’s on every network. He’s at the center.”

    • mothy67 says:

      She’ll be dressed as Barney on The Tonight Show on Monday.
      Some women’s rag called her a fashion icon. One commentator said she always look like she’s wearing an oven mitt. I will never unsee that.

  10. Dora says:

    Oh look! Hillary is putting her toilet bowl on display. 🙂

  11. Kathy says:

    Unreal..we shouldn’t be surprised because the media never does its homework. Send that info to Stephanopoulus.

  12. taw46 says:

    Poor Greece. I visited many times in the 80’s and 90’s, it was such a safe and friendly place everywhere we traveled.

  13. Dora says:

  14. lyn says:

    It’s cartoon Saturday!

  15. DeniseVB says:


  16. DeniseVB says:

    • The NFL still gets paid. To really make a protest hurt people have to quit buying tickets and watching games on television. When it starts to hurt their wallets the NFL and the players will pay attention.

      • SHV says:

        If Repubs sweep in Nov., support campaign to repeal 1961 law that gives anti-trust exemption to NFL. Added bonus Disney’s ESPN would go bust.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Baby steps 🙂 NFL ratings plunged last week and team owners are grabbing their players by the ‘nads. At least Jerry Jones did.

  17. taw46 says:

  18. Lulu says:

    The proggies reverted to type immediately upon the Les Deplorables roll out introduction for Trump hitting the internet. In comments it was all “they are too stupid to know what this is”, “they couldn’t possibly know what a Broadway play is”, etc. Their own comments showed that THEY didn’t understand the book, back history, significance, appalling feudalism, starvation, and rape of a great nation by the moronic elites running it. It was obvious that most of the proggies has seen 10 minutes of the movie and never had a European history course in their life. Recognizing the parallels both economic and social of pre-revolutionary France (all of Europe really) and today’s globalism is beyond them. They are too stupid and ignorant to see it. Or at least they are being paid to not understand. And Hillary brought it on herself. Showing her hateful sneering ass for Barbra Streisand. For some “donations”.

    • DeniseVB says:

      NYDN tries to edumahcate us deplorables with history or something. “Trump doesn’t understand Victor Hugo’s message because he doesn’t read books” ….. then compared him to Jean Valjean, because he started out poor and Trump didn’t, so there you stupids.

      The author (surprisingly not Shaun King) seemed to make a good case for capitalism 😉

    • swanspirit says:

      I read Les Miserables in my teens, along with A Tale of Two Cities, And other pertinent historical literature. I wonder what kind of cursory education some of these progs have had, when their immediate reference is not Victor Hugo, but the Broadway play, or the movies.
      But they entirely miss the point. People don’t need to read the books, or see the plays to know how “miserable” they are, or understand they are being despised, and are being treated with condescension. Vive Les Deplorables!!!

      • Lulu says:

        The best part is they don’t know what to do. They’re waiting on their instructions and in the interim just look dumber. The “DC” media bureau chiefs were supposed to have a meeting yesterday (with the morons in Hillary’s Brooklyn HDQ or the WH or DNC) and then Trumps pulls out The Deplorables graphic and anthem. The dumb asses cannot keep up with him.

        • mothy67 says:

          Wondering if he said that about her detail losing guns because he knew that coupled with an epic entrance could not be ignored. After yesterday afternoon I bet they were going to give him as little air time as possible. He gives them no choice.

          • DeniseVB says:

            The crooked media is spinning Trump’s gun comment that he doesn’t want Hillary to have protection and die. No, that’s not what he implied. Celebrities seemed to shut up about gun grabbing when it was pointed out, fine, then fire your bodyguards. 😀

    • Lulu says:

      That Obama mole from 2008 Patti Solis Doyle shanked her. Ratted them out. Then the Sidney Blumenthal shit sack blew up and everyone and their dog is saying Blumenthal, Hillary special friend and confidant, was the source of most of the garbage. The rats are eating each other.

  19. Dora says:

    The county has already sent out instructions. I know you’re not all familiar with the area, but you really don’t have to be to realize what a mess this is going to be. It’s a good day to take off and stay off the roads. Yikes!


    Road Closures Announced for Hofstra Presidential Debate

    BREAKING: Try to avoid the area around the university if you can.

  20. mothy67 says:

    I keep hearing a parody song with today’s post. Trollin with the sheep.

    • Somebody says:

      There’s a fire starting in my heart
      Reaching a fevered pitch, it’s bringing me out the dark
      Finally, I can see you crystal clear

  21. DeniseVB says:

    Now appearing in Times Square….

    Cost: 25k for one week by a supporting Trump Pac
    Results: Millions of free media coverage calling it tacky
    Media: Heads exploding, priceless 🙂

  22. DeniseVB says:

    Gab follow this guy, he’s got some fun artwork on his timeline 🙂

  23. Dora says:

    This was a moving event. I actually teared up a few times. And no one covered it except C-Span.

  24. Dora says:

    The elites keep pushing these deals but the people do not want them.

  25. votermom says:

    Late today – just “powering through” a killer headache. At least it’s not pneumonia.

  26. mothy67 says:

    It’s a sad day when a bombing on American soil isn’t even at the top of drudge.

  27. mothy67 says:

    What is the pwned thing?

    • lateblum says:

      I think it is BIGGER than owned. Kinda like punked and owned at the same time. (But I could be wrong.) I think it happened when someone was so excited when they were typing out the word “owned” that they typed a “p” instead of an “o”. At least that was the explanation I got quite a few years ago.
      And given my age, I could be just making shit up again. 😉

  28. Dora says:

    Bill and Hillary Clinton Sell Access and Influence Under The Guise of a Birthday Bash…

    Grifters gotta grift. Despite the brutally obvious conflict-of-interest represented by charging $250,000, $100,000 or $50,000 to join Bill and Hillary for a birthday bash (proceeds to benefit the Clinton Foundation *nudge, nudge* … *wink, wink* … “say-no-more, say-no-more”), Bill and Hillary just can’t help themselves.

    It’s what they do. It’s what they know.

  29. lateblum says:

    Just read at Drudge that Trump and HRC are tied in the projected electoral college votes.
    Now I haven’t read the entire thing. I’m leaving for my DD#1’s apt in seconds. But I thought I’d leave a little link here.

  30. mothy67 says:

    O just gave 75 million to Mexico to build a wall on the southern border, their southern border!!!!!!!

  31. DandyTIger says:

    I’m in Gab. Finally. @DandyTiger Connect to me. And could someone list everyone else again.

  32. SHV says:

    “Charlottesville FD Investigating Explosion on Downtown Mall”

    Amish have been busy, NJ, NYC, and Va.

  33. SHV says:

    If any of this shit involves the folks from the Aloha Snackbar, Trumps numbers go up 5-10%.

  34. Dora says:

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  36. SHV says:

    “Utah – Hispanic Activist Who Criticized Trump’s Mexican Rapist Comments Arrested for Raping Illegal Immigrant…”

  37. taw46 says:

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  39. mothy67 says:

    Gee stabbings in St Cloud, shooting and a machete in Canada, small plane into home in .Arizona

  40. SHV says:

    “Resettled “Refugee” from Middle East “person of interest” in Seaside Park, NJ BOMBING ”

  41. mcnorman says:

    Explosion as it happens Second device is pressure cooker bomb.

  42. mcnorman says:

    Fox News’ Peter Doocy: Second device found in NYC is a pressure cooker. #Chelsea #Manhattan

  43. Kathy says:

    Please allow me to say one more time that I hate CNN. DeBlabbio was on repeating endlessly that there was no known connection to terrorism, then CNN repeats that over and over because we might all panic and blame the non-Amish. So despicable..they treat everyone like children. Then they couldn’t resist taking a cheap shot at Trump, comparing what he said to Hillarys supposedly measured tones. I HATE CNN.

    • taw46 says:

      I haven’t watched them in a long time. Hillary looked drugged to me, therefore her measured tones. Trump was right, it was a bomb. And a second one found. And FOX has been treating us like adults tonight.

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