Nope, No Bias Here

why we love trump

Three “unbiased” articles from Politico. The first two are allegedly “fact-checks”.

Donald Trump’s Week of Misrepresentations, Exaggerations and Half-Truths

As s August ended, a new Donald Trump emerged. Coached by his third campaign management team, he stayed on message, read from a teleprompter and focused on policy. It lasted about a month.

After he lied on Sept. 16 that he was not the person responsible for the birtherism campaign to delegitimize Barack Obama’s presidency, POLITICO chose to spend a week fact-checking Trump. We fact-checked Hillary Clinton over the same time.

We subjected every statement made by both the Republican and Democratic candidates — in speeches, in interviews and on Twitter — to our magazine’s rigorous fact-checking process. The conclusion is inescapable: Trump’s mishandling of facts and propensity for exaggeration so greatly exceed Clinton’s as to make the comparison almost ludicrous.

Trump’s “lie” on September 16th wasn’t a lie. Birtherism originated with the Hillary campaign.

Here’s a couple more of Trump’s “lies”:

1. “The reason I do manufacture things overseas — I have to do this, there is no choice, because [other countries] have devalued their currency so much that our companies are out of business for the most part.” (Sept. 20, Fox 8 interview)

Manufacturing is diminishing as a share of the economy, but it’s hardly vanishing. The sector constituted 11.8 percent of GDP in the first quarter of 2016. In the first quarter of 2006, it made up 13.1 percent, according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.

2. “Excessive regulation costs our economy $2 trillion a year. Can you believe that? Two trillion dollars a year.” (Sept. 21, Toledo, Ohio, rally)

The $2 trillion estimate comes from a report from the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute. It’s widely quoted, but independent fact-checkers have questioned its methodology. Additionally, the figure excludes any benefits derived from the effect of regulations. The Cleveland Plain Dealer notes that car seat belts, for example, are included as a cost. But the lives/money saved as a result is not used as an offset, even though the federal government has estimated the benefits of regulations outstripped the costs.

Now here is what they had to say about Hillary:

Hillary Clinton Struggles Most With Truth About Herself

Hiillary Clinton’s relationship to the truth is solid — but her most brazen misrepresentations come when she’s talking about herself.

In the lead-up to the first presidential debate of the general election, POLITICO subjected every statement made by both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump — in speeches, in interviews and on Twitter — to our magazine’s rigorous fact-checking process. The conclusion: Though Clinton is far more practiced at sticking to defensible policy positions and recollections of history, she’s significantly more lax when addressing her own transgressions — the potential Achilles’ heel of a candidacy marred by questions of her truthfulness.

Compared with Trump’s machine-gun style of spewing falsehoods, Clinton’s detours from the truth were rarer and more targeted. POLITICO’s five-day analysis suggests that in just over 1.5 hours of remarks last week, the former secretary of state averaged one falsehood every 12 minutes.

In raw numbers, Clinton made eight erroneous statements in five days.

Clinton’s most glaring statement was the mischaracterization of her handling of classified information. She’s been rebuked by the director of the FBI for negligence and told the agency she didn’t realize a “(C)” denoted classified material. But last week, she described how “careful” she is with classified information.

Clinton also overstepped when describing her campaign’s transparency on her health, arguing that she’s met the standard of all previous candidates for office. Except there is no standard, and she’s arguably kept private significant details about her physical health.

Even if you believe Politico, Trump tells lots of little lies, but Hillary’s lies are whoppers.

Here’s the third article:

Obama’s team isn’t laughing at Trump anymore

Obamaworld laughed as it watched Donald Trump’s hostile takeover of the GOP. After eight years of Republican opposition, inconsistent policy demands and racialized hate against the first black president, President Barack Obama’s aides, past and present, thought Republicans had gotten what they deserved–and more, all but forfeiting the 2016 race to the woman they defeated eight years ago.

They’re not laughing anymore.

Going into Monday night’s debate, Obama’s team is feeling that same anxiety expressed by some top Hillary Clinton aides: maybe the country isn’t what they thought, maybe the resistance to Obamacare and gay marriage and the progress they’re so proud of is broader than the vocal fringe they’ve always dismissed. Maybe, the president’s aides – current and former – now concede, they’re going to have to live with the fact that Trump could end up in the Oval Office in part due to a backlash against Obama.

“I’m trying to think of a series to compare it to, which was a series that started as a comedy and became a high stakes drama,” said Ben LaBolt, a former White House aide and press secretary for Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign. “I feel like we’re maybe in the fifth season of ‘Breaking Bad’ here. We’re way beyond the laughs, and just sitting on the edge of our seats in terror.”

“There’s not a lot of mirth in the circles I run in about him,” said another former senior Obama campaign staffer.

Privately, Obama has expressed mixed feelings, according to people close to the president. He’s still nursing amusement at Republicans for being hapless enough to get railroaded by Trump, but it’s mixed with frustration that there are so many Americans he failed to reach. People who’ve spoken to him say the president wonders what he might have done differently to break through in a way that would make people who’ve benefited from his policies—like those enjoying added health benefits courtesy of Obamacare—support Democrats.


Though only a few weeks ago, current and former Obama aides would joke about how the president’s great political legacy might be the Republican Party destroying itself in front of him. Now, on the record, they push back on the very suggestion that Obama’s legacy should be viewed in any frame that Trump also occupies.

“I don’t think he thinks it’s his legacy, I don’t think any of us think it’s his legacy,” said Dan Pfeiffer, a former senior adviser to the president. “Trumpism is a lot of things in this country. President Obama is the face of that for some Republicans, but the Republican Party got themselves into this mess.”

But they worry about what even a Trump loss says about Obama’s America.

“I think he will lose badly in this election, but I think the impact he’s had on our political process is incredibly damaging, and will be lasting,” said Tommy Vietor, a former national security spokesman who noted that his own amusement at Trump ended a year ago. “He’s made us look stupid. I think he is stupid.”

For any efforts Obama made in urging people to disagree without being disagreeable, as the president likes to say, “Trump has shattered that,” Vietor said. “He has brought back a brand of politics that is you punch your opponent as hard as you can, it doesn’t matter if it’s a low blow, it doesn’t matter if it’s not of substance. That’s a bad lesson for people to learn.”

According to Earnest, Obama is serious about wanting a functional opposition and wishes that he’d had one to negotiate with on immigration reform, trade, infrastructure and other priorities. The sense of lost opportunity eats at them, as does the sense that it’s not going away, despite their confidence in Clinton’s chances.

Shorter: Obama good, Trump bad.

How soon they forget:

President Barack Obama said Friday that he will not negotiate over the debt ceiling with Republicans, whom Obama accused of wanting to negotiate “under the threat of blowing up the whole economy.”

Nope, no bias here.



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176 Responses to Nope, No Bias Here

  1. DeniseVB says:

    • Ann says:

      “I would trust the career professionals at the FBI and Justice Department… ”

      O.o And they wonder why Trump is going to win…

  2. DeniseVB says:

    Trump supporters are enthusiastic ! This is Sarasota, FL …..

    • Venus says:

      “Nobody knew about it” — Hillary supporters with the same lame “it’s someone else’s fault” excuses as Hillary.
      Like attracts like I guess.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Trump supporters knew about it 🙂

      • Lulu says:

        That is a very useful social excuse, I didn’t know, when you don’t want to do something. Their pretend “supporters” know but didn’t care enough, are lying about being supporters, or had something better to do (wash their hair, walk the dog, go brunch, etc) than stand on the side of the road with Hillary signs (who none of these people get to see her without handing over a big check). The NYT editorial (please vote for Hill, sob!) is very similar to Jeb’s please clap. Begging is embarrassing.

      • foxyladi14 says:


      • Ann says:

        Ok, so the Clinton supporters PLANNED the rally that nobody knew about, and the Trump supporters REACTED to that planned rally (so found out about it even later) and the Trump supporters still had a 5-1 turnout.

        Guy needs a better excuse.

    • When Trump supporters have superior numbers the protests stay peaceful. It’s Hillary’s people who get rowdy and violent.

  3. Lulu says:

    Uh oh. Hillary’s “special” podium and box for shorties trick is now in the news.

    • Lulu says:

      She needs a little special rulz “affirmative action” to get her up to height.

    • lateblum says:

      Another reflection of their (the Clinton team) poor judgment. If she allowed herself to look “small”, whenever Trump might say the least critical or negative thing, and she holds her own, she could gain the admiration of and quite possibly the votes of the undecided viewers. Not the already decided voters they won’t change their minds. But by making her physical height a “flaw”, she also opens the door to making the rest of her physical-ness – her health, her eyes, her sometimes crazed appearance equal opportunity topics for debate. And then we go from there to her lies, her mismanagement of and purported ignorance of protocol and rules, and then onto her lack of transparency as issues.

      • swanspirit says:

        Once again, optics matter, and the Clinton people are stupid. If Hillary has to have the “special” podium, it doesn’t give her an advantage. Either way, it works against her. It just appears that she is getting some kind of preferential treatment, because she is special in some way. And whichever way it is perceived, works against her.
        If it is because she is someone more deserving than Trump, sends a terrible message. If the special podium is because she can’t function with a normal podium, even worse.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Trump should sit on a special stool so only his head his visible behind the podium, wouldn’t that be funny 😛

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Pretty much sums up the clusterf**k this is Black Lives Matter 😉

  5. Venus says:

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  7. Venus says:

    • lateblum says:

      ^This^ stopped me dead in my reading and I had to “like” and “retweet” with comment.

    • lateblum says:

      And I aimed my retweet at the UW commenter who has been such a witch of late. I just wish I had the guts to actually send it to her directly. I am a coward at times.

      • I had to mute her. So sad about that because I really like her, but a few weeks back it was “Hitler! Hitler! Hitler! – Nuclear Codes! AGHHHHHH!!!!” I challenged her on the Hitler meme – and she said I would have to unfollow, mute or block. So I mutes, in hope of AFTER all this we can still be civil. It reminds me of 2008, only HRC supporters are the Obamabots. Sigh….

        • lyn says:

          I love how HRC supporters use Obama’s talking points when they say Trump supporters cling to their guns and Bibles. Ewwwww!

        • lateblum says:

          I hope so, too. That we can all be civil. But I’m afraid that if HRC loses again this year, it will be more than some can handle.
          At one point I actually said to her that they were sounding like the Obots that we so disliked in 2008.
          I think the real reason I haven’t been more forceful is that I hope to resume some kind of more or less hospitable interaction in 2017 and beyond. I am so happy you migrated over to here. 🙂💕

        • Constance says:

          It is sad. But with Progressives there is a religious zeal. You can’t just have a different political opinion, you have to be stupid, evil, crazy, unhinged etc. They are going to treat you like a grade school kid with cooties.

      • Anthony says:

        Many of them have gone around the bend, some have always been a little batshit cray. Sad, that used to be a really great blog.

  8. Venus says:

  9. Somebody says:

    So politico picks a week that Clinton takes off to “fact check” her statements. She wasn’t on the trail and didn’t have any press conferences, she made very little public statements. Not to mention most of their Trump fact checking is bullshit.

    I fully expect Clinton to hit Trump with the politico “fact check” on the truth tonight in the debate. Hopefully he and his team have poured over it and he has a good come back.

    The whole thing is laughable, except there are lots of people that will take it as gospel. Honestly has Trump lied about national security?? About pay to play?? About dead Americans in Libya?

    • lateblum says:

      If they ask her what “C” stands for, they’ll be accused of being crass, sexist and a low-life. They’ll forget about the word “classified” intentionally. Just like HRC.

  10. votermom says:

    Some kind of mass shooting at a mall in Houston. Black guy is the shooter.

  11. DeniseVB says:

    Some inspiration for Game Day 🙂

  12. votermom says:

    Here’s hoping Trump vs Hillary tonight will be like Eagles vs Steelers last night: 34 to 3.

    Btw, where’s Helen? She’s gotta be doing the mummer’s strut.

    • dm says:

      I’ve been wondering where Helen is too…I visit a couple of other sites that she comments on and haven’t seen here there either…hopefully, she’s on a lovely vacation.

  13. votermom says:

    The Houston shooter was Hispanic and drove a porsche.

    • votermom says:

      By Hispanic they mean some kind of Indian I guess coz his name is Nathan Desai.

      Also, a lawyer.

      • lateblum says:

        Also, had threatened (with a weapon) some roofers working in his homeowners association a few weeks ago. (Per a neighbor of his) He was apparently upset over a downturn in his business. (All this per radio news.)
        A.) If this is how he treated clients, it’s no wonder there had been a downturn. and B.) I’d he hadn’t “killed” his chances of winning new clients earlier, I’d say he put a nail in the coffin of his current law practice.

  14. votermom says:

    A surprisingly even-handed treatment of the presidential candidates:

  15. Kathy says:

    Most appropriate post..I am so pissed. I slept late and woke up to the idiot, Brian Stelter on CNN, saying that Trump has a very tenuous relationship with the truth..and how they should fact check. I went into a major rant until my husband turned it off. Really Stelter, Trump ? Hillary is so’s way past time to fact check the fucking media Everytime their pie holes open. Unbelievable.

  16. lyn says:

    This is the latest meme. Yawn.

  17. Anthony says:

    Clinton Campaign: “All possible measures have been taken to ensure that Hillary Clinton will remain upright throughout the entire debate, and meds have been adjusted to prevent any inappropriate outbursts” —Robbie Mook, Clinton Campaign Manager

    (I told you I was having a photoshop itch 🙂 )

  18. foxyladi14 says:

    Best election in my life time. 😀

  19. Dora says:

  20. DandyTIger says:

  21. Dora says:

    This should make your blood pressure rise!

  22. #DemocratEthosInANutshell “He’s made us look stupid. I think he is stupid.” -Tommy Vietor, a former [Obama administration] national security spokesman


    • Somebody says:

      Dude, Tommy is so like 3 years ago

      • lateblum says:

        When the MSM introduces Tommy as a “former spokesperson on foreign affairs for the Obama administration” I usually respond by saying, “you mean, former driver and errand boy for bronco bama.” And then I throw something soft like a pair of socks, at the wall.
        These ppl make me so angry sometimes. 👿

  23. Kathy says:

    Drudge needs to headline each media lie with accompanying pic..even libs I know check Drudge throughout the day.

  24. Dora says:

  25. mcnorman says:

    She’s been practicing stairs, still can’t do them without holding onto a railing though.

    • Constance says:

      I find this whole Hillary feebleness thing really irritating. The type of stair, balance problem she has is easily helped with physical therapy and practice so to me it seems like Hillary doesn’t care enough to do the work of looking normal and healthy.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Maybe she has a fear of falling? I’m like that, grab a railing if it’s there, but I’m much faster than she is going up and down.

      • votermom says:

        She may have a vision problem too – holding the railing is important if you’re seeing double.

        • Constance says:

          I don’t see a problem with holding on to the rail, a lot of people do that. It is the hesitancy, and it looks like her legs are too weak to lift her. I remember when my inlaws moved to a retirement community there were no steps anywhere. So a year later when we all went on vacation they could no longer do steps although they looked healthy enough otherwise. 70ish people’s muscles waste away quickly if they aren’t used. It’s not asking too much for her to do 20 mins a day of leg strength building.

          • lateblum says:

            I need to remember, daily, your words of wisdom, Constance.
            I remember when I was a little child, we lived in a 3rd floor walk-up in Chicago, and we walked everywhere or took public transit if it was too far to walk. Later, we only lived in the first floor apartments. After we (kids) were gone, they moved into an elevator building and stayed until my dad died. You’re right… They were always huffing and puffing when they’d come to visit even though there were 8 stairs at the most. My mom moved to assisted living after my dad died and there were no stairs anywhere. But she had lots of walking to get from one activity to another and I think she moved around more then than when she was younger. I used to think it was cruel for her and the others to have to walk so far to get their mail or their meals or have their hair done or go the little shops or their exercise classes. I now see the point of all that walking. Good plan. I doubt that my mother – or most of those residents – would have done nearly as much had there been stairs. Makes me glad I just came home from taking a walk in this beautiful weather.

      • lateblum says:

        I confess… Today I went to PT and then shopping at a mall. I wore clogs because right now, I still need to be careful about what shoes I wear and where I walk. Well, I am relieved that I’m not running for office – or running at all. I felt more than a little unsteady even though I mastered the skill of walking about 71 years ago. I couldn’t wait to get home to change my shoes. I had seen the clip of her walking down those steps before I left for the morning. I felt bad for her, but thought she had done well on those steps. I wondered if she had actually been coming from PT for these problems she’s been having managing stairs and standing, etc. If she isn’t in PT, she should be.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Your recovery has been amazing, so proud of you ! And Hillary is wealthy enough, she can afford the best of the best PT, and they will come to her. No excuses! I mean, if Michelle Obama can fly a personal trainer in from Chicago a few times a week and all 😛

          • lateblum says:

            As we all know, MO wouldn’t have a personal trainer, much less fly him/her on from Chicago if she herself had to fork out the money for it. I wonder if they will ever have to personally pay for anything for themselves again. They make professional grifters look amateur.
            Thanks for your compliment. 🎈💕🎈💕🎈

        • votermom says:

          You are inspiring me with you PT dedication, leslie. #myhero

          • lateblum says:

            Honestly, I’m embarrassed. If I hadn’t listened to everyone here, I probably wouldn’t be so consistent. So, I have you and everyone else to thank.
            Piper was super encouraging as long ago as last year. I haven’t seen/heard her in ages. Have you?
            I think she is “needlepointer” at MOTUS, but I haven’t seen her there, either.

          • votermom says:

            I think Piper is taking a break coz she’s not much of a Trump fan. I miss her too.

  26. Dora says:

    Isn’t she afraid to tire herself out before the real debate?

    • mcnorman says:

      Must have her hyped up on uppers.

      • Somebody says:

        Well let’s hope so McNorman because what goes up must come down!

        My son was telling me the British have some kind of betting thing about whether or not Hillary will collapse, die, cough, make it through the entire debate, whether she will need a bathroom break, on and on. There are multiple categories. There is also a category about which candidate will go negative or on the attack first.

        • mcnorman says:

          Wow. Well, I don’t wish anyone ill except for Hillary. It is criminal what she did to Chris Stevens and the others. If she falls off the podium, hacks up bile, passes out, or seizes…it’s just fine by me. Knowing DT, he will run to help her up. That will send more of the libtard minds into oblivious. Perhaps someone will not give her enough meds tonight.

      • blowme0bama says:

        Her blood stream is Prolly barely recognizable as blood.

      • Lulu says:

        She must be on some kind of a medical pump. Continuous drip of some drug or a combination of them. Very weird. She will collapse in a heap tomorrow.

        • Constance says:

          Doesn’t matter if she collapses. Her valiant warriors, the media, will take over the second the debate is over. Declare a Trump gaffe and run wild with it. Of course no one outside of the media echo chamber listens to them so the result of all the hype will be nothing.

        • DeniseVB says:

          If she’d only be honest about her “condition” and let the people decide if it’s manageable enough to be President. Now it makes sense why the media’s talking about all our sick and successful former Presidents like, hey it’s no big deal. Eisenhower had a heart attack in office and history has been very favorable to him !!!!!1! Also FDR, Polio !!! and JFK, Addison’s and chronic back pain!!!!1!! Yeah, same media that would judge Trump unfit for an ingrown toenail, you betcha!

  27. votermom says:

  28. 49erDweet says:

    OT. Apparently the Bradford Department Store chain is upset that one of their customers failed to abide by their Store Full Of Victims Awaiting Slaughter policy. They need to be NFL’d.

  29. DeniseVB says:

    Rolling Stone (Feb2015 issue) ranks all the SNL players in the history of the show. Fun read for trivia fans, and it’s not a stupid slide show full of pop-up ads. Just a pleasant scroll down one page.

  30. votermom says:

    Heh. One of “my” writers is up on AOL front page. “The Worst President in History”
    I dropped links right in the comments

  31. votermom says:

    There’s a Women for Trump even this Saturday. Should I go?

  32. CiscoKid says:

    So let’s see here .
    The store being a No Gun Zone naturally attracted bad guy armed with a AR-15 rifle who started shooting .
    A woman with a CCL places herself in a tactical advantage where she is able to engage the bad guy and fatally wound him before he starts a killing spree.
    Store management may seek prosecution of this heroine for violating the stores policy enforceable under local law.
    Gutsy move Lisa Harris, gutsy move. Well done.👏

  33. Kathy says:

    If conditions in this country don’t improve in a few years, I worry that there could be a serious revolution. So the establishment should be profusely thanking Trump right now..but, they aren’t that bright.

  34. Dora says:

    He’s coming after all.

  35. Dora says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      So Hillary has her JournoList team? Thanks Obama.

    • blowme0bama says:

      I guess so they can brush his assertions off when he repeatedly sticks his foot in her ass.

      If this thing is as bad as I foresee it being, as far as Moderators “fact checking” him with lies, like the birther thing, I think he should just walk out and not do another one.

      • Constance says:

        No, don’t walk out. He should just spit out a load of inconvenient truths in a big long run on sentence and completely overwhelm the checkers then move on while they are sputtering around trying to check the 20 different facts he dumped on them that don’t fit their narrative. With these sorts of people you have inflict wounding damage every time they come after you. It is like aversion therapy for them and it is the only way to get them away from you.

  36. DeniseVB says:

    I guess twitter won’t be much fun tonight ?

    • lateblum says:

      Can’t you just ignore them? You don’t have to respond. Just do what Constance said and fire off another round or two of something they don’t like… those “inconvenient truths” they’d like to think Algore invented along with the internet.

  37. Dora says:

    Talk Radio Host Michael Savage Abruptly Removed From Radio, Claims ‘Sabotage’

    • CiscoKid says:

      Well, imho , here’s the reason why.
      Don’t want an honest assessment of tonight’s debate to his millions of listeners.

      “The Savage Nation is a nationally syndicated talk show that is the second most listened-to radio talk show in the country with an audience of over 20 million listeners on 400 stations across the United States,”

  38. Dora says:

    OMG. This is unreal! It sounds like a joke.


    Hofstra University Provides ‘Trigger Warning’ for Presidential Debate

    Hofstra University has posted a “trigger warning” sign to warn students about the potentially disturbing content that may be discussed during Monday night’s presidential debate.

    According to CBS New York reporter Tony Aiello, a sign inside of the student center at Hofstra reads, “Trigger warning: The event conducted just beyond this sign may contain triggering and/or sensitive material. Sexual violence, sexual assault, and abuse are some topics mentioned within this event. If you feel triggered, please know there are resources to help you.”

    • dm says:

      What have we done to our kids? I can tell you one thing, my kids were triggered early and often with me as a mother. I was never one to hold back, although I did try to give them the facts of life, love and work without disillusioning them or sugar coating it.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Whoever’s paying tuition at Hofstra these days is being scammed. Worthless degrees.

  39. votermom says:

    Troll-master in Chief

  40. DeniseVB says:

    From downstairs…..Stay Safe Hillaryous 😀


    Obama to Hillary: “Just be yourself.”

  42. Bruce Jenner

  43. Ace:

    PROPOSITION: ODDS (amount paid: for amount wagered)

    Hillary wears something white: 3:1

    Hillary wears something ill-fitting and ghastly: even

    Hillary wears something that looks like she stole it from a homeless ghost cursed to haunt the earth until she tells 10,001 lies: 9:1

    Trump says “Believe me:” 1:3

    Trump pays himself a compliment, and adds “You all know, you’ve all said this many many times yourself:” 1:2

    Trump says his dick smells like frankincense and winning: 10:1

    Trump says his dick smells like frankincense and winning, then adds “You all know, you’ve all said this many many times yourself:” 25:1

    Trump exhales loudly through his nose when the camera’s not on him: 2:1

    Trump exhales so loudly through his nose you an Amber Alert goes out for an immigrant child running out of air tied up inside his podium: 13:1

    Hillary talks some bullshit smack like “You ask MOAMAR QADAFFI if he thinks I’m tough enough!:” 3:2

    Hillary talks some bullshit smack like “You ask VINCE FOSTER if he thinks I’m tough enough!:” 40:1

    Trump denies voting for the Iraq War: No bets accepted (guaranteed)

    Hillary denies voting for the Iraq War: 7:1

    Hillary has a cough: 1:6

    Hillary has a wet cough: 3:2

    Hillary coughs up something that looks like lung and Scrapple: 10:1

  44. taw46 says:

  45. driguana says:

    What’s going to be perhaps even more interesting than the actual debate will be the hour following it! The fact checkers will be fact checking the the fact checkers for the facts!

  46. Venus says:


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