Alienation & Loathing in America


What masculinity in America looks like these days.

I trust you’re all suitably recovering from This American Election. I know I am. I’m still grinning ear to ear. My husband asks me everyday how I’m doing (he has done so every day of our marriage) and these days my response is always, “GREAT!”

Meanwhile I’m watching my friends and family on FB recycle through various stages of grief. I’m holding my fire there. However, on Twitter & Gab, I’m letting it all hang loose. I don’t have any IRL friends on those sites, and they’re a little more like the wild west.

But make no mistake, I would love to rub my friends and family’s faces in their pre-electoral smugness and their post-electoral grief. Many of them have truly been some very public, intolerant assholes during this election. But I’m just classier than they are. End of story.

I belong to an all-woman, all-friends private group on Facebook called Estrogen Mafia. The name comes from a friend of ours who used to call us all Estrogen Mafia at a local bar we used to hang out. She’s dead now, and in the wake of her death we created this group. For literally years I tried to preach to these women the importance of voting for women, but they weren’t having any of it. They are the kind of dyed-in-the-wool liberals who for years would interject “I don’t consider myself a feminist” whenever the F-word came up. Of course they all supported Obama in 2008 and 2012.

Starting last year one of them got all janked up by the Men’s Right’s Movement and started reporting from the field. By from the field, I mean her kitchen counter, where she keeps their laptops. This woman is in the most traditional nuclear family I have ever seen. I mean, Amish families don’t have quite this level of division of labor, ffs. But I digress. She started getting the feminist outrage machine fired up and one by one these liberal women fell in line and followed suit. They were outraged–outraged! I tellya–by what some men were doing on the internet. The group became unbearable and while I stayed, I did stop participating. No one has posted a thing since the election.

On February 6, 2015, I warned them. I posted this on our group page:

Not sure what to make of this article, written by a privileged white male who has taken advantage of every inch of his white & male privilege, including the great white male marketing technique to pole-vaulting to fame: the cutsey Twitter gimmick targeting the young, largely female white audience (he is the co-creator of Twitterature).

The article castigates other privileged white males who feel alienated enough to align their views with various aspects of MRA movement. Think of guys you know who are always down on SJWs. This group is a problem, and their alienation should be reckoned with before it grows in force and power. I don’t think he reckons with it very well. Rather, he brings a typical educated urban male tendency to be critical of it without really trying to understand it, in a language with all the alienating tinges of academic acerbity. It’s more than a little annoying and ironic.

I guess my concern is that this blanket of alienation that lays on a couple of generations of men is itching for social prominence. All it needs is a charismatic political leader, and there are several on the horizon. And there don’t seem to be any parallel potential leaders on the opposing side. You think Hillary Clinton could put a damper on this? Not likely. She’d feed it. There is no one on the left or in the middle that I see who could unify enough of the marginalized classes and the white male thought leaders (Rensin among them) who tend to lead them. How does this bode for our immediate future?

I don’t know. I just have a faint wisp of angst about where all of this heading. I might be wrong. Your thoughts?

If anyone is counting, I was 15 months ahead of the curve. Trump announced in June 2015 and he won in November 2016.

In case you were wondering, no one commented on it at the time, even though they were all already in the bag for Hillary. They just didn’t get it, not then, and not now. A lot of liberal / progressive people are like this. They either don’t know or don’t care that so much of their chatter is alienating. And until November 8th they were blissfully unaware that the net result of this dynamic is that it prompted loathing in others. Bernie Bros, suburban moms, Gamergaters, and Reagan Democrats all unified to basically troll the entire Democratic party with a decision that will echo for 4 years. At least.

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146 Responses to Alienation & Loathing in America

  1. DeniseVB says:

    It has been an exhausting journey, but still not tired of winning 😉 What a great piece Lola, as always, but must remember, the Trump revolution began in 2009-10 with the Tea Party until the elites destroyed them in time for the 2012 election. They quietly came back in the form of those yuuge Trump rallies and ultimately with their votes. Puma ! Tea Party ! Trump! It does feel great, and we earned it 😀 From 2010……

    • This is true. I left out the Tea Party and select PUMA in my analysis.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I was just remembering my evolution. When that hottie-toddy John Edwards lured me back on the Dem plantation in 2004. To this day, I think had that ticket been reversed to Edwards/Kerry, they would have beat GWB. Same stupid mistake the Dems made in 2008, should have been Hillary/Obama. And that’s where my journey began….seeking to destroy both parties 😉

        • taw46 says:

          I wasn’t a John Edwards supporter in 2008. But I did go see him when he campaigned in my county. We had quite the conversation on the rope line when I told him I was originally from S.C. They were trying to hurry him along, but he didn’t budge. I must say, I liked him a lot. He was so down to earth, so friendly. And yes, handsome. Just a shame how all that turned out.

          • DeniseVB says:

            Despite all his warts, he would have been a better president than Obama. JRE was a self made millionaire, ran a successful law firm, then beat a popular incumbent senator in SC in his first shot at politics. His outsider creds caught my attention, read his book “Four Trials” which was inspiring and heartbreaking, he wasn’t an ambulance chaser, he actually changed and protected many lives with those cases. I was crushed when Kerry/Edwards lost, only because it was my hope Edwards would have been a shoe-in for 2012.

            2004 was the beginning of the end for the Dem Party. They should have gone with the populist.

          • taw46 says:

            Better than Obama? No argument here! I don’t think Edwards would have forgotten those people who struggled. The two Americas. But I never really paid that much attention to him, so I don’t know if he had those crazy Marxist prog views. Definitely had a character flaw, as evidenced by his treatment of his wife.

  2. elliesmom says:

    I’ve been taking a lot of heat for not getting behind Hillary this time. My response has been I’m still invested in seeing a woman elected POTUS, but sometimes a dream has to take a backseat to a greater good- like in 2008 when you chose Obama instead. The thing that really grates on me, though, is the way Trump supporters are expected to be behaving after his win. No celebrations allowed because the other side needs time to “process” their loss. Like they wouldn’t be dancing in the streets and rubbing our noses in our loss. I’ve started pushing back. They’ve had as much time as most companies give you off for bereavement when your mother dies. Time to grieve privately.

    • DeniseVB says:

      They’ll get over it. Becoming PUMA in 2008 was a great way to deal with the DNC that year, I’m surprised the Bernies didn’t revive it, but most jump on the Trump Train anyhow or protest voted Stein. Most of us fell in love with Sarah Palin that summer, so it was an easy switcheroo to GOP. We gave Obama a chance, we didn’t flip cars or destroy property. The rest is now…..history!

    • votermom says:

      The thing that really grates on me, though, is the way Trump supporters are expected to be behaving after his win. No celebrations allowed because the other side needs time to “process” their loss.

      Yes, everyone in the neighborhood is quiet when I know they are happy. I resent this. And I reject it. They have the whole country walking on eggshells.

      • taw46 says:

        Yes, that irritates me as well. And I am still being shunned in my home, haha.

      • Constance says:

        I’m totally relieved for our country and happy, but just like I didn’t tell many people I voted for Trump I am not sharing my happiness at Trumps election with many people. Not because I care what Hillaryites think but because I believe they can’t think. So many Dems are self focused and they are desperately holding on to their prejudices about Trump voters. They are wallowing in their self created drama and I don’t really think this sort of person has anything to offer in terms of solving the countries problems. These are people who really believe the worst problems facing our country are where trans people go to the bathroom, whether circus animals are allowed in the city limits, and how we can be more accommodating to people who have no right to be in our country. I think about all they can do is traipse around and if that gives them a feeling of accomplishment that’s good for everyone as it keeps them out of serious political actions.

      • DeniseVB says:

        We certainly gave Obama a chance in 2008. I gave it a year, lasted a month. 😉

    • Venus says:

      Dancing in the streets & rubbing our noses in it if they had won is right. They were openly gleeful of “crushing” us before the actual vote:

      • Constance says:

        Well a lot of them are really simple sheep people. They aren’t educated they are Ivy Indoctrinated (or wannabes) and they are properly credentialed. They think they were supporting the forces of good against sexism,racism and gay freedom, etc. even calling Trump Hitler because they are too stupid to know who Hitler was and that he killed 11 million people. Now they think that “good” has been defeated and “evil” has won. I suggest the best way to deal with these types is give them something to do and keep them away from Democrat leadership. The Republicans need to have a secret office of Sheep People engagement and busy work. There are a lot of these people and they can vote when someone delivers them to the polling place.

    • Venus says:

      celebrating & rubbing our noses in it when they thought they had already won:

      • AFVet says:

        Well here’s a good place to put this.
        Peggy Hubbard speaks out on the babies in college.

        • taw46 says:

          Love Peggy, she needs to run for office! Lol.

        • elliesmom says:

          While I appreciate her sentiments, until January 20th Donald Trump is a private citizen and can’t do anything about the riots. The riots are only happening in cities the Democrats control, and that’s a necessary feature. It seems counter-intuitive that these people destroy their own neighborhoods, but that’s the only place they can get away with it. If they were destroying neighborhoods in Republican controlled places, both the police and the National Guard would have the tear gas and the hoses out.

          • kanaughty says:

            I have to say there was one protest that actually made sense to me. It was in dallas on the grassy knoll and they just stood there still in one place without walking into the road or marching anywhere. That kind of protest has more impact to me and mlk would be proud of those people in dallas.

    • Venus says:

    • I’m right there with you. I’m so sick of it that I broke the Facebook wallt today, posting this on a friend’s post:

      I voted for Trump and I’m not ashamed of it.

      • lyn says:

        I’ve been posting more today because of the rioting, and I found out my PhD Seattle sister-in-law is marching with the Resist Trumpsters.

  3. Dora says:

    You are a great writer Lola. I always enjoy reading your posts. I think you should write a book someday. Especially after the election, I’m sure it would be a best seller.

    In the meantime, is anyone else feeling a bit nervous? I admit that I am.

    Soros is leading this revolution and the people supposedly in charge of protecting us are on his side. So, who is going to stop this? And how far is it going to go?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Good to see Fox News covering the connection between Soros and the anarchists(including BLM! and OWS!). It’s a start to take law and order back. Protest without destroying other people’s stuff.

      Fox also said Ivana Trump is interested in being U.S. Ambassador in her home country (Czech Republic?). Wouldn’t that be great!

    • CiscoKid says:

      Just a little bit Dora, nervous that is.
      But here’s what I figure.
      Eventually the property owners are going to get tired of their property damaged/burned and loss of customers and probably higher insurance rates.
      Block the highways? Goods don’t get delivered and perishables rot.
      That all causes loss of monies, hitting them in the pocketbook.
      Business owners won’t take the losses for long and will demand action, law and order wise.
      When the enemy is making a mistake, don’t interrupt him.
      Rioters are making a big mistake. America isn’t Paris circa 17 or 18 something.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I heard this morning Tiffanys (next door to Trump Tower) cancelled it’s Christmas window display. Yes, this is going to go beyond politics and will make crooked DiBlasio put pressure on the punks to skedaddle.

        • CiscoKid says:

          Sad. My brother and his wife vist NYC to see the Macy Thanksgiving parade and visit the Tiffany windows.
          The old Marshall Field store, now Macy’s, had a pretty decent Christmas window display, but Tiffanys, well it’s Tiffany, how can you beat that.

          • DeniseVB says:

            Visiting NYC at Christmastime should be on everyone’s bucket list, it’s magical. I’d rate that experience about a dozen places higher than Disney World 🙂

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          That is so sad if true. Tiffany’s goes all out for Christmas. Having done window displays for the old Kaufmanns when I was in school, I really appreciate those that have kept up those traditions. It is a dying art. I was just thinking, for the first time in years, that regardless of other factors many people will be feeling a bit less tense this year knowing that the haters will be out of the WH. Leave it to the snowflakes to try and take that away from people.

          My long departed fiancé taught me a great trick especially for wedding gifts that needed to sent some distance. Tiffany’s. They carry gift items to suit a wide range of budgets and you are treated extremely well regardless of how much you are spending. They ship them in their signature blue boxes with a beautiful bow and always assure, even should anything be broken, the item is replaced with no questions. I have never had a problem from sending a couple hundred miles to several thousand. I have been using them for almost 30 years now and the recipients are always thrilled as it is apparent I took time to find something they would like and receiving a gift that is presented in a way that say this is a special occasion. Now I am lucky to have a Tiffany’s in the DC area but I have also had perfect service selecting an item online.

    • Wow thanks Dora. I do dream of writing a book one day.

      I’m also nervous. I think we should your t try to o com me up with some way to respond. Maybe this?

      • taw46 says:

        Perfect! (My sister is wearing one, maybe I should try it out on her. Haha)

      • kanaughty says:


      • Mt.Laurel says:

        OK. What the heck is the deal with the safety pins? It makes me think of baby diapers except most of these snowflakes would never have used pins since Velcro is the standard even on cloth diapers these days.

        Now I will add that the nuns always had a selection of pins/safety pins fastened inside their large pockets. But those were mostly to help little kids with those daily little problems such as lost coat buttons.

  4. votermom says:

    U.S. EPA employees were in tears. Worried Energy Department staffers were offered counseling. Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.

  5. Dora says:

    Sounds like a bad one. It’s not being covered here. The Americans Media is too focused on the street riots to notice anything else.


    Families warned to flee New Zealand coast ‘immediately’ over tsunami sparked by 7.8-magnitude earthquake

  6. Dora says:

    Still pretty funny.

    • CiscoKid says:

      Always the same shit, birth control.
      I remember Romney ran an ad showing a woman walking out of a drug store,opening her hand to show a package of condoms.
      She said, “I can afford these, I need a job”

    • Anthony says:

      Can anyone tell me how much birth control pills cost when they’re not free? Serious question, not sure if they’re price prohibitive or not.

      • They used to be a $20 co-pay. Now, with insurance jacked with HDP, they’re about $25.

        • Anthony says:

          So what’s the big deal? If $25 per month is a hardship (which it very well may be after 8 years of Obamanomics), then the answer is not providing them for “free”. Create jobs, penalize companies for shutting down and moving overseas, make it possible for small companies to hire people for more than 28 hours a week without penalty – there are so many more ways to deal with this than whining about free shit being taken away.

          Sorry to sound like a curmudgeon, but my patience is wearing thin…

        • kanaughty says:

          $10 with insurance if they cover it. A non generic i had one was going to be $134 for 3 months. (The generic wasn’t out yet and i didn’t know about those discount cards you can get at the time. So i had to switch. I never tried the implants so i don’t know how much those are.

    • Constance says:

      Well I say give them their free birth control. It is good that these idiots don’t reproduce and since they are willing to destroy their own young let them. I mean how many people through the years have based a political movement on the right to destroy your own young?

  7. DeniseVB says:

    More on the tsunami warning, not a threat to Hawaii or West U.S. Coast. Whew.

  8. Video of Hillary Clinton on election night at the moment when Trump was declared the winner:

    • taw46 says:

      “you’ve got a big day of moping and writing on FB tomorrow”, lol.

    • 1539days says:

      I think Dave Chappelle doesn’t like to rehearse. Those were some of the worse performances on a technical level last night. Then again, they probably had to rewrite a LOT this week.

    • kanaughty says:

      I watched it. Thought it was funny when a lady says “this is the worse thing that has happened in america!” Then chapelle and rock look at each other and laugh 🙂

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  10. votermom says:

    Ouch! Random comment:

    First she loses to a man with no accomplishments, and eight years later to a guy who took up politics as a hobby a year ago. She might have had a chance against a random hiker.

  11. helenk3 says:

    these brats have been told they are special from the day they were born, Hate to tell them but there were a million other people born on that day too. If you have never been told NO and everything you do is ok, it is a shock when life says not only no but HELL NO, AND YOU ARE REALLY OBNOXIOUS AND A BRAT. Life must be wrong because you have always been right. People only put up with obnoxious brats for so long, they they wear out their welcome. This is long overdue for these brats.

    many of us were lifelong democrats but love the country before party and in 2008 saw what was happening to the democratic party and wanted nothing to do with it. The specials thought it was just fine to trash the country, insult the country and were too dumb to realize that they were losing rights everyday. Mommy and Daddy were paying the bills so what the hell lets do what we want we don’t have to pay for it. Guess what , the credit cards just got cut off. Bummer, now what?

  12. helenk3 says:

    DNC staff arrogance cost hillary the election.

    for some reason this reminded me of 2008 when donna brazille told hillary voters to go home only this time the ignorance arrogance cost them big time

  13. foxyladi14 says:

    Not even sworn in yet!!And creating thousands and thousands of good paying Jobs.
    Check out Craig’s List.Protesters making 15.00 bucks an hour.
    WTG Trump. 😀

  14. foxyladi14 says:

    Great post Lola. ❤

  15. lateblum says:

    Watching FTN w/Michael Gerson from the NYT (I think) who called the voters who elected DJTrump as “the worst people in the nation”. This is shameful.

  16. helenk3 says:

    when the WW2 generation is gone and all those who remember them and were taught about them are gone, this country is screwed.

    sacrifice is so yesterday, My way is the only way will be the teaching.

  17. I’m just waiting for the inevitable confrontation with a Hill bit so I can say, what part of party unity my ass did you think I was kidding about?

  18. DeniseVB says:

    Very creative !

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  20. taw46 says:

    “To bruise the words of Benjamin Franklin, who I am sure is in sweet shock, we have our republic back … IF we can keep it.

    This time, we better pay more careful attention. We are ever lucky for this second chance.

    The mess was caused by our own sloppy apathy. Our civic sloth, our moral negligence.

    We let others hijack our principles, kidnap our values, and hostage our free speech. We permitted a slender few to tell us who we were to be, rather than honor who we are. We let them guilt us into a nightmare from which we have been freed.

    We were mustered by a powerful personality, but in truth, we were the power. Ordinary us. We banged the shields. Banded together in a noisy brotherhood. Steeled our spines. And kept the faith.

    We turned the world upside down. Again.

    In this new beginning, we should stand tall for anthems that honor us all and kneel more often for the right reasons.

    We should respect the Laws of Nature, and make fashionable common sense. Government must be reminded that we are its master.

    We are America. Again.”

  21. CiscoKid says:

    This is just to damn funny.
    Iran wants to develop a tourism industry.
    Of course no clubs, bars or alcohol.
    Separate beaches for men and women.
    Maybe this qualifies as the stupidest thing I’ve read.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      If you come as a tourist, we promise to try and make sure you are not beheaded if you hand over your phone and passport, tip well and don’t leave the compound ….opps resort? .

  22. votermom says:

    Trump continues to destroy the media.
    And it must kill lefty Twitter & FB that he’s using them to do it.

  23. Dora says:

    That would be great. I miss the rallies. 🙂


    AWESOME! Donald Trump May Take VICTORY LAP Through ‘Trump Country’

    Donald Trump may take a victory lap through “Trump Country” before his inauguration according to a close aide

  24. helenk3 says:

    while backtrack golfs the brats riot and cause havoc, Russia warships arrive off Syria ready to fire

  25. Dora says:

    I never thought this would happen.

  26. helenk3 says:

    off topic
    Super moon tonight.
    November has been an interesting month so far
    Cubs win the series
    Trump wins the election
    Moon has not been this close to the earth since 1948

    • CiscoKid says:

      Next time is 2034. I’ll be watching the sky tonight.
      I would have missed it, thanks.

    • lateblum says:

      That was a wonderful bit of info. Thanks, helen. I already planned to look for the moon in the morning sky tomorrow. I hope it won’t be as cloudy here as it has been the past 2 mornings.

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  29. kanaughty says:

    Hey, y’all. People in my family are still acting like another 9/11 happened that’s how sad and angry they are. I don’t know how to comfort this many feelings. Because since they are family i love them very much.

    And then we had npr on in the car and they are talking about how people with green cards who have criminal records are calling immigration lawyers. And trying to make their audience feel sorry for them.First off, if they have a green card, they are legal immigrants. Trump wanted to deport illegal immigrants, doh. Second, don’t commit crimes, how hard is it not too really… so npr is really trying to go with a really scary narrative that is bullshit lies.

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  31. 1539days says:

    Breaking News: The federal government will no longer pay for Viagra to treat impotent rage.

  32. lyn says:

  33. swanspirit says:

    Great post Lola! I really love reading your posts.

    I confess, I have been flipping channels, from Fox ( happy faces) to CNN MSNBC etc, ( sad angry faces ) , and enjoiying it. It really is quite a contrast, and I am enjoying every schadenfreudelicious minute of it, and I plan to continue to do so for a good while. For over a decade, there have been people in the White House that did not have my support, and these last eight years of abuse from Obama and his acolytes have really been miserable at times. There have been shock after shock of disbelief and dismay. Not to mention having to endure the real economic deprivations , and hanging on by the skin of my teeth at times.
    Watching my son the veteran have to suffer because he can’t get decent health care isn’t my idea of a picnic, either. People like John Cole, ensconced in their little academic ivory towers can KMA,
    I intend to enjoy this Trump administration, every minute of it. Bring on the caviar even if it is the cheap Walmart variety, and champagne on Jan 20. Let’s get this party started!

  34. votermom says:

    Kellyanne smacks down hairy reed

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