Thanksgiving is an Ancient Tradition


No, the Pilgrims did not invent Thanksgiving. They weren’t even the first Europeans to celebrate the holiday in the New World (Sorry, DT – it was the Spaniards) Thanksgiving is even older than Christianity.

“Thanksgiving” is the name we give to the ancient rite of the harvest festival.

A harvest festival is an annual celebration that occurs around the time of the main harvest of a given region. Given the differences in climate and crops around the world, harvest festivals can be found at various times at different places. Harvest festivals typically feature feasting, both family and public, with foods that are drawn from crops that come to maturity around the time of the festival. Ample food and freedom from the necessity to work in the fields are two central features of harvest festivals: eating, merriment, contests, music and romance are common features of harvest festivals around the world.

In North America, Canada and the US each have their own Thanksgiving celebrations in October and November.

In Britain, thanks have been given for successful harvests since pagan times. Harvest festival is traditionally held on the Sunday near or of the Harvest Moon. This is the full Moon that occurs closest to the autumn equinox (22 or 23 September). The celebrations on this day usually include singing hymns, praying, and decorating churches with baskets of fruit and food in the festival known as Harvest Festival, Harvest Home, Harvest Thanksgiving or Harvest Festival of Thanksgiving.

In British and English-Caribbean churches, chapels and schools, and some Canadian churches, people bring in produce from the garden, the allotment or farm. The food is often distributed among the poor and senior citizens of the local community, or used to raise funds for the church, or charity.

In the United States, many churches also bring in food from the garden or farm in order to celebrate the harvest. The festival is set for a specific day and has become a national holiday known as Thanksgiving which falls on the fourth Thursday in November. In both Canada and the United States, it has also become a national secular holiday with religious origins, but in Britain it is both a Church festival giving thanks to God for the harvest and a more secular festival remembered in schools.

Harvest festivals in Asia include the Chinese Mid-Autumn Festival (中秋節), one of the most widely spread harvest festivals in the world. In Iran Mehrgan was celebrated in an extravagant style at Persepolis. Not only was it the time for harvest, but it was also the time when the taxes were collected. Visitors from different parts of the Persian Empire brought gifts for the king all contributing to a lively festival. In India, Makar Sankranti, Thai Pongal, Uttarayana, Lohri, and Magh Bihu or Bhogali Bihu in January, Holi in February–March, Vaisakhi in April and Onam in August–September are a few important harvest festivals.

Our ancestors lived a lot closer to the edge than we do. Winter was a time of deprivation and starvation. It was especially tough on the old and the very young, and many didn’t survive until Spring. A successful harvest meant that nobody had to die from hunger this year. That’s worth celebrating.

So they harvested food, stored or preserved it as best they could, and ate like a football team at a Chinese buffet for a few days or weeks. Nowadays we worry about gaining weight during the holidays, but for our ancestors it was how they stored up fat for the winter.

Kinda puts things in perspective, don’t it?

Happy Thanksgiving!



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99 Responses to Thanksgiving is an Ancient Tradition

  1. This guy is Ardee’s soul mate.

    • 49erDweet says:

      ROFLAL at the thought she has one, but “Yeah”.

    • 1539days says:

      The whole “high information” BS made the special snowflakes feel superior when they got their pretty pony in the White House. Now, that it is Trump country, they’re falling back on anyone thinking differently than they do as low-information and willfully ignorant.

      Almost none of those hicks are reading Alernet. The reason for this article is not to criticize the hate and fear of rural Whites. It is to stoke the fear and hate in leftists who decided to vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson because they thought Hillary was a shoo-in and helped to lose her the election. Remember in 2004 when Michael Moore did the apology tour and lamented supporting Ralph Nader when the Green vote might have cost Gore the election?

      Hillary may be 2 million votes ahead of Trump by the end. Guess what? She still got LESS THAN HALF THE POPULAR VOTE. The states that have to suffer federal regulation or have Obama take their land away by federalizing it finally got tired of it.

  2. DandyTIger says:

    Damn you Spaniards. {{shakes fist in air}}.

  3. DandyTIger says:

    I’m full of turkey and watching football. Just like our ancestors.

  4. Dora says:

    OMG! Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Russia, Croatia, UK are helping fight the fires across Israel. Where is the United States?


    ISRAEL UNDER ASSAULT Terrorists Light Dozens of Fires to Kill Jews, Destroy Israel

    Terrorists have reportedly set dozens of fires across Israel in their latest attempt to kill Jews and destroy the country.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Hear ye, hear ye, let it be known…….

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Too soon?

  7. Mt.Laurel says:

    Thanksgiving Blessings to one and all.

    Its been a mixed bag for me today. I just finished a long distance call with the last surviving elderly members of my dad’s family. Three 90+ year old sisters who could no longer be on their own and had to move to an assisted living space. Two just moved this month from skilled care after hospitalizations so the holiday season is going to be extra tough. The third, in the best shape, is tying up all the loose ends and will be joining them next month. I made sure they had cards and sent goodies to share with their new roomies. I know from the sound of their voices that they cried the minute I hung up. My dad’s family has dwindled down but cousins from Mom’s side have been to see them and will be going back. I will make the trip next month. Hoping they at least come to peace with the change and settle in to their new world. I am thankful that it is a small facility, the staff is very hands on and it does not have an institutional feel. But it is not home.

    The venturing into the crazy but amusing. Todays noonday meal was at in-laws of my cousin. I emailed my cousins a link to that Kimmel sketch and I thought we were all going to loose it when the Tofu Turkey was set on the table. I kept to the salad and fruit. Everything else looked – well rather unappetizing. We are having real food Saturday and Sunday. I am sure our menus would not meet with approval. There will be wine. Lots of wine.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Understand completely. My ‘special’ sis has been in a care home now for 2 yrs, but still uses the cell phone for life I gave her to call us every day. Our grown ‘special’ foster son has been in one 5 yrs, ever since he found out he was big enough to push me on my butt. Thank God for the care providers that take such good care of ’em. Still miss them today. Will probably take them both out for Chinese food on Christmas day.

    • 1539days says:

      My dad’s sister is 93 now. She and her daughter had to move in with a cousin because keeping up the house was getting too difficult. However, there are now 5 living generations, my aunt, her kids, my cousin’s two kids and the 5 kids the son had. Plus, his older kid became a mother a few years ago.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    This is evil, my bad, I laughed …. 😛

  9. DeniseVB says:

    LameO Dems. Though I would like to thank Obama for President-Elect Trump and not Hillary….

  10. DandyTIger says:

    “We don’t need white people leading the Democratic party right now”

    She commented on Representative Keith Ellison (D-MN) by saying that it was “difficult” to have a Chair who had another job, but praised Ellison as “great,” “amazing,” and a “fighter” “committed to the issues,” before the discussion turned to Howard Dean.

    Sanders said of Dean, “Howard Dean was there for that 50-state strategy, but here’s the issue, Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line, and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need. In my opinion, we don’t need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse, and it should be reflected as so in our leadership, and throughout the staff, at the highest levels.”

    Sanders concluded that “we need a robust discussion about this, and I think we need to hear more from all the candidates. Jaime Harrison of South Carolina, he’s great, too. He has done real party building, but everybody doesn’t necessarily know Jaime, and they want to know what it is that he stands for. So, I want to hear more from everybody. I’m here for the millennials and the brown folks.”

  11. Anthony says:

    Great post! In England, the Autumn harvest was called Mabon, where everyone harvested their crops, took what they needed for the winter and then brought the remainder into town on that day and shared with the rest of the community.

    I’m thankful for TCH and the TCH family. This place is a wonderful sanctuary, and I can’t thank everyone enough for just being here. We kinda rock (a little)

    I’m not cooking a damned thing, but I got suckered into making dessert for 12. Guests should be arriving in about an hour. Pears poached in port wine, stuffed with pecans, brown sugar and cinnamon, wrapped in pastry and hand painted with food coloring, and then baked. Served over creme fraiche and drizzled with port/raspberry coulis. Pair it with Prosecco, and you’ve got a winner. So much for keeping it simple….


    • For dessert I had warm Sara Lee pumpkin pie topped with Cool Whip.

    • swanspirit says:

      Sounds wonderful! I cooked a fresh turkey, and made sausage and oyster stuffing.. The”kids” went to see the outlaws, and I am sitting the granddog. Not quite in a turkey coma, but pleasantly stuffed full of stuffing.

      • Jadzia says:

        This sounds awesome. We do celebrate Thanksgiving despite not being there, but not on The Day itself (because it’s a workday here, obviously). I am hoping that somebody goes to the USA soon and can bring me back a few bags of those Ocean Spray cranberries, because for me the jarred/canned/dried ones ARE NOT THE SAME. I want to make real cranberry/maple sauce this year!

        • swanspirit says:

          Can you order them online, OE can someone send them to you?

          • Jadzia says:

            You cannot order them online! Believe me, I looked (starting with the “American Market” website in France, which apparently believes that what expats really, really miss is candy and tubs of frosting*). The Ocean Spray website will send dried and canned (and you can get that stuff in the store, along with cranberry juice), but not the actual “fresh” cranberries. I also tried just buying the dried ones and soaking them, but the problem with those is that they seem to have a bunch of added sugar, so un-dehydrating them did not work at all (well, it kind of worked, but they tasted weird). The last time I asked my only reliable relative to send me something, she took herself to the post office and made a big announcement about what she was sending (Nyquil) and of course then she wasn’t allowed to do it. Ha ha. Although the US Post Office tends to be really weird about anything that might even minimally involve alcohol.

            (*)Which apparently children here don’t like. I made cupcakes for the 5-year-old birthday party last week, and more than half of the guests politely rejected them! For a moment it was super-exciting (more cupcakes for me!) until my husband pointed out that the children had LICKED them first. Um, no.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            I know they sell fresh cranberries in the UK (e.g., Sainsbury’s) any shops that can get them for you that way?

  12. DeniseVB says:


  13. SHV says:

    Stuffed and watching football…the cats have fleas and Al and her mother are “reminiscing” when they were homeless and living in a Ford Fiesta.

  14. votermom says:

    Black Friday deals on Amazon

    The Fire tablet is just $33, the Fire HD 8″ is $59, FireTV stick is $29

    • I’m thinking of a Roku so I can get Netflix.

      • votermom says:

        You can get Netflix on a FireTV stick too, I’m pretty sure.

      • Jadzia says:

        I’m confused–does Netflix not work on TVs there? We don’t have a fancy TV or anything and just very very basic cable, but I can just pull up the “menu” on the TV and my NetFlix account comes up on that.

        We watch Star Trek: TOS every night. My 10-year-old is obsessed with Mr. Spock.

        • 1539days says:

          Netflix works on a lot of smart TVs without an additional device. If you have a dumb TV with an HDMI port, you can make it smart by plugging a Roku, Fire stick or Chromecast to the HDMI.

          • Jadzia says:

            I think our “cable” TV might actually come through the Internet, so there’s that, too. The “land” line does, which I am not thrilled about but what can ya do.

      • helenk3 says:

        I have had one for several years. In fact the people here told me about it. I love it it. You can get a lot more than netflix on it. My favorite it HULU has so much more than netflix more movies and tv shows. Also amazon channel. I watch stuff through my roku more than regular tv. There are not too many good shows on tv anymore and you have pay extra for HBO and those channels.
        You will love it

    • Jadzia says:

      I wish the ones from were usable here because I’d order them through you. Fire tablets are going to be the boys’ Christmas presents this year, because (a) they are getting to the point at school where they need Internet access for school reports and such; and (b) I am tired of sharing the iPad so that they can read books on Kindle. Also (c) Classical Academic Press’s language-learning games (for Latin, which Boy 1 is now taking and Boy 2 will start next year) don’t work on the iPad and they are apparently never going to change that. Hopefully the kids don’t turn into little computer addicts like Mommy.

  15. Dandy T will appreciate this:

    • elliesmom says:

      Most of the teachers I worked with only belonged to the union because if they didn’t, they couldn’t work. The local union couldn’t get enough people to go to a holiday social event. Meetings seldom drew more than a handful.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    • CiscoKid says:

      What a wonderful way to end the day.
      Ate more than I should, ate more sweets than i should, and kinda sorta drank more than I should, but this was my first Trumpsgiving, so I indulged.
      ❤️ and 🙏 for everyone, time for 😴

      • DandyTIger says:

        “Good, let the hate flow through you, young Olbermann.” — Emperor Palpantine

      • 1539days says:

        I thought Olbermann’s tweets were protected (from us having to see them on twitter)

      • DeniseVB says:

        Comments are pretty brutal. Good. Good. From prime time t.v. to ranting podcasts he will be resisting poorly.

      • Lulu says:

        A big league (at one time) broadcaster moves to NYC and CANNOT attract a wealthy, beautiful, high profile, entrepreneurial, socialite wife. Jealous, can’t keep a job, with many social and mental problems he lashes out yet again. Poor, poor, pitiful Keith. Creepy and old now striking out at women who would never have even spoken to him. He really thinks we don’t see through his shtick?

      • Lulu says:

        Well Biden overcharged the shit out of his guard shack rental at his house in Delaware. And how much does the one at Broncobamamansion Chicago cost? Trump is to be criticized for building/owning some of the most expensive real estate in the world? And it is by LAW that GSA is to pay fair market value for space so blame Congress. I remember reading years ago about Lady Bird Johnson trying to provide a nice place for her Secret Service detail (they were like sons to her and she loved them) and she wasn’t allowed to do it because “illegal”.

  17. I know I have a paranoid suspicious mind but I’m wondering if there was some kind of “Gone Girl” thing going on here.

  18. kanaughty says:

    So today i was chatting with a bunch of academic profs in chicago, SIL friends, they actually brought up that the fears are irrational and the media whipped up that fear. This coming from a berkley prof! Wow, opposite of what i thought they’d think. Another prof in sciences says she just wants more funding for the sciences and heard that newt gingrinch is actually behind this move. Also she saysthe fear is so real and irrational that she knows a puerto rican who thinks she will get deported. And the prof is dumbfounded by this as was i because as a puerto rican you are a natural born american citizen! Doh!!! So it was cool to hear some rational liberal arts profs chat about this politics stuff tonight. And i was happily surprised with what i heard. They are not huge trump supporters, but they realize it’s just another election and they might actually get more funding now maybe.

    • In 2000 and 2008 I was very unhappy about the outcome of the election, but I never freaked out. I knew we would get thru it.

      • Jadzia says:

        Seriously. These people who cannot understand the concept of a tripartite government that IS DESIGNED to prevent swift, radical change, who believe that the end of the world as they know it is coming because a “bad” candidate was elected–well, I think they lack faith in America.

        (Although I am still fuming at a colleague, who technically merits a bit of leeway because not American and less educated about our system of government, who sneered at me “Well, maybe for SOME PEOPLE” (translation: you r*cist you!) when I gave her the nice neutral answer (to her question about the election) of “Oh, I think the country will survive.”)

        • 1539days says:

          The only things Trump can reverse immediately are all the Executive Orders and regulations Obama created because he didn’t want to deal with a Republican Congress. Most of what would happen is going back to 2008 or so in terms of government.

          • Jadzia says:

            Good point; I actually forgot about that part.

          • Lulu says:

            Yes Bronco ruled by decree and lawfare. It will be very easily undone. The pushback will be in the courts but with a DOJ that is not set up to push the Broncobama agenda. The courts will make the Broncobama set produce quality briefs etc which they are not very good at doing and certainly not quickly or even timely (they always need time extentions and it is time for the courts to say no, now or it is dropped). They will be buried with a blizzard of paper and will have to answer without the taxpayers paying for them. New game in town and Bronco’s rigged rules will be used AGAINST them now. I’m still laughing at Hairy Reid changing the Senate rules so Trump can use them. Hairy did it just for Trump! Dumb ole Hairy.

  19. Speaking from personal experience, turkey in a mess hall thousands of miles from home just isn’t the same.

    • DeniseVB says:

      For several years it was our tradition to enjoy Thanksgiving with the troops in the Mess Hall on base. Great memories. (My “Martha Stewart” friends would invite a dozen over to their homes).

  20. Carol Brady was the generic “mom” to a lot of my generation.

  21. Dora says:

    Oh look. There’s Hillary. Just doing some shopping.


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