The buffoons are loosing their shit. John Cole has always been a raging douchebag, but it’s really getting scary over there.
What he said:
I don’t know what we do either, but I suspect this all goes down the memory hole. We’d need a better political and media establishment than we have to fully recognize a crisis like this, let alone address it. And frankly, it would require a more informed and engaged citizenry than we have too. Therefore, I don’t expect anything to interfere with Trump’s being sworn in on January 20th.
Honestly, the only scenario I can think of right now in which Trump is blocked from taking office is if the CIA starts leaking damaging information on him. That’s not so far fetched — Trump is responding to this controversy in a way that makes this scenario more likely, IMO:
The Trump transition team dismissed the findings in a short statement issued Friday evening. “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again,’ ” the statement read.
Note the reflexive lie about the size of the Electoral College win. That’s a tell that indicates how insecure Trump is about his own legitimacy.
The Electoral College could block Trump — preventing foreign interference is one of the reasons it allegedly exists. But it’s a partisan institution, so I’m assuming it will fail, just as all our political and media establishments have failed.
So basically, our only hope of escaping an illegitimate presidency that was engineered by a foreign power and abetted by traitorous partisan political interests at home is if some spooks take offense at Trump’s insults and decide to engage in a pissing match. Rather a slender reed to hang our hopes on, huh?
That was written by “Betty Cracker”, a former denizen of the infamous “Rumproast” blog. She’s repeating the latest talking points from Hillary’s campaign over in Lefty La-La Land. “The Russians hacked the election!”
Assuming that the Russians did indeed hack the Democrats, all they did was expose the lies, hypocrisy, and corruption inside the Democrat party. They didn’t turn Hillary into a horrible candidate. How much damage the hacked info caused is questionable, since the mainstream media studiously avoided reporting on the contents of the pilfered emails. Only us “low-info” types got to read them.
I don’t recall similar howls of outrage from the left when it was revealed that the Obama administration actively interfered in the recent election in Israel. They were pretty blase about all the foreign money collected by Bill Clinton while Hillary was a senator, Secretary of State, and a candidate for President.
Here are a few of the comments from Buffoon Juice:
Obama could always stage a coup. Of course he won’t. But he could. (Not even going to lie, I’d be fine with that end to the American democratic experiment over whatever Trump has in store.)
I think for all Obama’s decency and being a good man, respecting the office and the nation, we are way past the point where this is no longer turning the other cheek.
Christ. Now its been said. And it can’t be unsaid. I went to sleep last night just praying and dreaming that the EC somehow came to its senses and overturned the election. I actually think the country –not Trump’s moron voters but the country–would breath an immense sigh of relief. He’s had just enough time to reveal himself fully to the world–but I’m sure you are right. Our institutions are too compromised and weak to do anything about this totally illegitimate election result.
Not surprisingly sites from the rightwing’s point of view are poo pawing this and sites from the progressive side are going nuts. The Media is trying to figure out how to frame this as a Both Sides Do It. And curiously this has turned America’s political landscape on it’s head. The party that used to loath the Soviet Union & Russia is now actively defending Russian manipulation of US elections. Had that happened under Reagan/Bush/BushII benefiting Democrats there would have been nuclear war.
So what’s that say? Democrats are going to be asked to behave like adults and go sit down and be quiet. And the MSM will agree with that assessment. We are so screwed.
Now what? With a 4-4 USSC, no remedy there as if there ever was one.
He’ll be impeached and convicted, almost surely for doing something to benefit him financially; I wouldn’t be surprised if he or one of the spawn shorted Boeing before going off on them a couple days ago.
The only way things change is if there is evidence of direct Trump involvement- Something like Manafort showing him hacked emails and letting him pick which get leaked, or direct payments from Russia to Trump. In that case Republicans will agree to impeach him and elevate Pence. Which doesn’t really solve anything since his election was illegitimate too, but we’ll get plenty of commentary about how The System Works.
Rather than any likelihood of any institution directly blocking Trump from taking office, the more likely upshot is that some key agencies may undermine him from within, in analogous fashion to the way Comey’s FBI acted nine days prior to the election to throw a huge tackle on Clinton. Trump may have his own appointees heading the agencies, but there are numerous ways those at the career levels can subvert Trump and any efforts by the agency heads to suppress these efforts, in much the same way as Comey wasn’t able to truly control the manipulations of the Clinton-haters in the New York FBI office (if indeed Comey wasn’t in on it himself with plausible deniability). And even if Comey was in on it, he may come around soon to recognizing the huge mistake of allowing the rogue elephant Trump to run loose upon the security interests of the country, and play the game from the other side. But my guess it will be the intelligence and military agencies who will have the most at stake in containing and undermining Trump.
Not just CIA, but likely intel agencies around the world, have pretty thick files on Trump and the people around him. Not hard to imagine how for instance Germany has a big interest in exposing Trump’s kompromat and tracing it back to Russia, in order to prevent interference in their upcoming elections. Perhaps even the Chinese, who aren’t fans of America necessarily, but nonetheless would prefer it not to be led by a Russian puppet.
He will never be impeached. The Republicans will be too afraid to do so because it will hurt their brand–they know if they replace him with Pence that Trump’s various invulnerabilities will not translate and the Pence/GOP alignment will overreach and be booted out in two to four years. They will never impeach Trump. But refusing to do so will simply leave the press with no reason to cover Trump’s illegalities and frauds, since there will never be “respectable” “moderate” “honorable” republican voices to speak up against him and democratic voices are simply discounted as “partisan.” That is the real danger that Broderism and Brooks’ism have brought to us all these decades–that nothing the democrats say is taken seriously and republican lies and criminality are left unexplored.
I don’t know why people aren’t grasping the obvious fact that Comey himself may have been compromised by the russians.
It’s time the the left for once starts making the cynicism and alienation of the American public work for them. Delegitimize Trump the way he and the GOP spent eight solid years delegitimizig Obama. Use it the build the party on the local level. Turn the outrage on the enemy for once instead of railing against the Clintons and the neo liberals.
Press and Democrats need to start CONSTANTLY ASKING EVERY REPUBLICAN WHETHER THE RUSSIANS HAVE COMPROMISED THEM. In a debate on the naming of a post office, ask whether the Russians planted child porn on their computers. In a press conference on any random topic, ask Trump whether the Russians are holding damaging information over his head. When he throws that reporter out, the next reporter asks the same question.
I found all of those in the first part of the comment thread. I didn’t even get to the other three-quarters of the comments.