A Trump Tour de Force

I’m not usually impressed by speeches. Very few of them ever make a difference. Some of the best I’ve ever heard weren’t even real – they came out of movies. Years ago I mostly quit listening to speeches because they are just words.

Last night, Donald Trump gave the best speech of his life.

If you don’t believe me, check out Nancy Pelosi.

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209 Responses to A Trump Tour de Force

  1. If you took a drink every time Trump got a standing “O” you would have died of alcohol poisoning before he finished.

  2. John Hinderaker:

    I don’t have much to say about President Trump’s speech to Congress tonight, beyond the obvious. The speech itself was tremendous, and Trump delivered it effectively, often passionately. It was an interesting reminder of how much better Trump is, as a speaker, than his predecessor, when he sticks to the script.

    The speech’s opening was inspired, with its reference to Black History Month and denouncing of recent hate crimes, especially anti-Semitic ones. Trump’s recognition of audience members was superbly done, and the prolonged standing ovation accorded to Carryn Owens, in particular, was unforgettable. The Democrats’ ballyhooed plan to fill the gallery with illegal immigrants fell flat.

    Trump’s themes were not new, but the speech wove them together skillfully in a way that made sense, with “America first” the overarching theme. Near the end, Trump said something to the effect that as president, he doesn’t represent the world. He represents the people of the United States. This is tautological, and it was stunning to see the Democrats glumly sitting on their hands. Do they seriously not understand the president’s role, and their own?

    • Venus says:

      It was an interesting reminder of how much better Trump is, as a speaker, than his predecessor, when he sticks to the script.

      This is pure NeverTrump bullshit — Trump is a better speaker than Obama when he sticks to the script AND when he speaks spontaneously. The fact that these people refuse to acknowledge that there is a difference between a rally speech and a SOTU shows how married they are to their own biases. Trump speaking for 2 hours with no script is much more impressive than Obama’s stuttering through a single question without the teleprompter.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        They used to cover this in school. Each style has its own flavor and when melded with the overall approach informative/persuasive/ entertain/special (e.g.graduations, eulogies) should match to the occasion and overall purpose for the speech. A stump speech should not sound the same as addressing congress. A person should have an overall style that can be adjusted to the audience.

        What was also taught was that one should never simply read a speech (aka BO and the TOTUS) because it is impersonal and generally shows a lack of preparation and is disrespectful to the audience.

        Politicians have moved to the point where they are not even giving speeches. They are all giving PowerPoint presentations so they do not go off script.

        Trump does not follow this path. Therefore they cannot understand has a wider range of speaking skills and knows how to use those skills. Trump does not give the same speech to every group all the time. He understands that different forms are used as the basis dependent upon the forum.

  3. Bill Jacobson:

    Donald Trump’s speech to a Joint Session of Congress tonight was enormously impressive and potentially game changing.

    In big terms, he was both presidential and pugnacious. He started by talking about more work to be done on civil rights, and condemned recent acts of anti-Semitism and hate. While it will not satisfy those who hate him, it set a tone and deflated the attacks on the speech you know already had been written. Bringing victims of crime by illegal immigrants and introducing them was powerful. And introducing the widow of fallen Navy Seal Ryan Owens was the most emotional moment I’ve ever seen in such a speech.

  4. Elena Kagan looked like she was smelling farts all night.

  5. Democrats were sitting on their hands all night.

  6. Roger Simon:

    I was once a Democrat. In those days, I thought I was on the team of truth, justice, and the American way. It was fun to be a Democrat then. But… Bye, bye Miss American Pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry. I woke up.

    I’m no longer a Democrat (it’s been many years now), and though on the rarest of occasions I worried I’d made a mistake, Tuesday night watching the shell-shocked faces of the Democrats on the floor of Congress while Donald Trump delivered his magnificent speech, I knew I had made no error. I even wondered what was going on in my head in those isolated moments I doubted myself.

    The Democratic Party members watching that speech looked like a party of the living dead. They didn’t know how to react. They didn’t know if they were Americans. They didn’t know who they were.

    Every time Trump called for bipartisanship for the good of our country, they winced. They couldn’t stand it and didn’t know how to react because they are the least bipartisan people in the world and they scarcely know what cooperating is. Working together is not in their natures. Yes, they talk about it endlessly but they never do it. (See: the history of the Soviet Union) Maybe it’s not in their DNA. (I should check mine.)

    When the speech was over — after there was no longer a dry eye in the house from the introduction of the widow of the Navy SEAL — they left the room faster than fans of the losing team after the Super Bowl, only in this case they left so stunned you had to wonder if they would ever win the game again or even compete.

    The Democrats — the silly ladies dressed in white and all the others — bet the house that Trump would make a fool of himself and Donald cut the legs out from under them. And when you bet the house and lose, you go home bankrupt. And without a home to go to.

    He cut the Democrats’ legs out in the worst way, exposing them for the empty party they are with nothing going for them but identity politics. Yet, it is becoming increasingly obvious that if anyone does anything for the inner cities, it will be Trump the builder, not the Democrats who had a chance for fifty or sixty years and did nothing. Bye, bye, identity politics. No wonder Maxine Waters is so apoplectic.

    • lyn says:

      Excellent commentary.

    • We are in a new era. I’m 95% excited but 5% blue about what is happening — not because I have even an iota of regret about leaving liberalism, especially now. But because, as Trump himself said the other day, we need a two-party system and I strongly suspect, even with the unlimited pockets of George Soros, the Democratic Party, at least as we know it, is dying. All those crazy protests at town halls and the mass demonstrations of women racing around in vagina hats are the death throes of a movement with nothing to say.

      • Lulu says:

        What has been practiced over the past 20 years is not Liberalism. It has been going hard left authoritarian social fascism. That is what globalism is with some social polish and new words and empty bullshit. Trump is closest to a Blue Dog. He is the most old fashioned nationalist Moderate we have seen since forever. Labels have been so distorted by media, academia, etc that Democrat really means fascist now which is why it is funny when ignoramuses call Trump that. Conservative doesn’t mean anything. But “globalism” is dead. Those yahoos in Europe watched that speech, and everywhere else, and they know it. Trump’s tour de force will affect politics everywhere.

        • Kathy says:

          Very well said..thank you !

        • Constance says:

          Agree! Trump is an opportunistic Blue Dog Dem who took over the Republican party.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Amen Sistah !

        • Jadzia says:

          God, I hope so! It’s getting to the point that it makes me sick to watch the news, because I can’t stand the fact that that little fucker Macron has been anointed by the media and they’re probably going to get away with it. With the help of the “left” and the “right” parties, coming together to save the EU’s sorry behind.

  7. Lulu says:

    The Dems reaction over the VOICE program (shock, hissing, whatever?) was one of the most shocking and disgusting I have ever seen by seemingly professionals in public life. They acted like they had not been informed of it. IT IS IN AN IMMIGRATION MEMO DATED FEBURARY 17, 2017. Do they ever read anything? About government in which they purport to participate. I have and I am just a bumpkin in hickville. And why do they represent and advocate for non-citizens over citizens? And the worse the illegal the more they feel they need to “protect” them and shower them with our tax money. Their polices, their ideology, their world view and happy talk of ONE WORLD has harmed us because it is bullshit. Economically and criminally we have been screwed. And that is over. Done. We are no longer your red headed step child to abuse, ignore or take advantage of socially or economically. The Dems ran out of the House Chamber like scalded cats because they are useless. Their reign of delusion is over. Good riddance. And now please STFU and go away. Before we make you.

    • Lulu says:

      Nice try Bernie. Please read up on sunspots, solar cycles and the Maunder Minimum. Try to keep up.

      • votermom says:

        interesting how him and Jill Stein are both targetting the greenies. They must be their last hope for suckers.

        • Lulu says:

          When you try to make scams out of sun cycles which have been occurring since the creation of the universe you will do anything for money. The green scams and global warming cultists look more and more like the flat earth societies. Since the last mini-ice age occurred in the 1600’s and not in their memory (and history is as foreign to them as dead languages) it somehow didn’t happen so they come up with weird (and very scam-able!) explanations for people who believe in magic, astrology, the various parts of the cosmos as alternate deities, etc. It is a scam to transfer wealth from some regions to others with a fee payable to global warming believers and a new hierarchy given power to who gets to use energy and who doesn’t. Bad people who are non-believers must die!

    • 49erDweet says:

      Dear Bernie. Please send some of your spare sun spots to soggy CA. We need their drying effect. Soon!!!

      • Jadzia says:

        Yesterday morning, I watched the weather lady talk about the horrible winter drought we’re experiencing thanks to global warming while AT THE SAME TIME the ticker/crawl at the bottom of the screen warned that 7 departments, including my own, were under an orange alert (that’s bad) for flooding. It has been POURING for three days and I feel like I’m back in Oregon, and not in a good way like when I learned to make my own Yumm! sauce last week.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          There is an old joke in there somewhere about weather people being more accurate if they actually looked out the window. Or in this case, looked at their own monitors.

          I do know the one about the rain in upper west coast:
          It only rains twice a year in Seattle: August through April and May through July.

  8. Dora says:

    • Jeffhas says:

      Who will read these things?

      Sure, Journalistas will buy them to see if there is any ‘there’ there (juicy gossip). Most of his supporters won’t shell out $$ for a book when they already know he’s the mostest unicorn… the embassies aren’t buying Obama brands for their Gift Shops anymore… Schools are about to get Devos’d – maybe colleges will buy some since they have Student Loan money to spend?… but that’s about all I can come up with.

      I hope the publisher loses big and the Obama brand becomes poison… a guy can dream can’t he?… and after ‘The Speech’, anything seems possible.

    • lyn says:

      I pity anyone who buys Obama’s me-moirs.

  9. Dora says:

    They are so filled with hatred, it’s making them crazy.

    • Lulu says:

      Jones knows that the institutional and professional Dems chose Hispania over blacks in the DNC race. Smart ones see that they are being replaced by Hispanics in every way by the open border, globalist Dems. Perez (The Race AKA La Raza and full on globalist apparatchik) understood he had to try to cover their tracks by making Ellison vice chair or some shit to avoid a complete split down the road if possible.

  10. votermom says:

    In honor of President Trump ‘s speech to Congress, I have declared today to be WINNING WEDNESDAY!

    • Lulu says:

      Yeah! All of this immigration “softening” from Trump talk people have not read the Homeland Security memos. This is not just rationalization but wish-casting and self-comfort. The Dem reaction was “They are going to deport 10% of our voters!” Now, after going ape-shit they are trying to tamp down hysteria which was doing them no good.

    • Venus says:

      OT — votermom, Netflix just added Frailty to its line up:

    • foxyladi14 says:

      WOOT!!! 😀

  11. taw46 says:

    I just turned on MSNBC, Joe and Mika look like they are in mourning.

    • Lulu says:

      This was the America First speech. Russia is not America. They must have missed that part which was the whole speech.

    • CiscoKid says:

      Trump didn’t mention global warming, thanks Bernie for noticing, didn’t mention Russia, why the f**k should he, and no basketball picks.

  12. votermom says:

    Freebie!! and a new sequel

    • Lulu says:

      Speaker Paul looked especially bug-eyed last night.

      • lateblum says:

        Yes. Plus, his head is so “big”, that he cannot sit up and keep his head straight. It kept tilting from one side to another. The only time I saw him with his “head on straight” it looked like he was resting his head on the back of his chair. Take a look sometime.

  13. Anthony says:

    Official Democrat talking points on President Trump’s speech by both Schumer and Pelosi on Morning Joe: “It’s all talk. We’ve heard him say these things before. He talks the talk, can’t walk the walk!”

    Translation: “Shit just got real…”

    • Lulu says:

      Slightly OT but not really: I saw my congressman talking to President Trump in the scrum. He hates Paul Ryan’s guts and I suspect he is a mole for the White House. Trump was calling him by his first name and said “come on over” (I read lips reasonably well) and congress critter nodded.

      • Anthony says:

        Who is your Congressman?

        • Lulu says:

          Louie Gohmert. Ugh.

          • Lulu says:

            It used to be Charlie Wilson a long time ago who I knew. LOL.

          • taw46 says:

            I met Charlie Wilson once in DC, what a charmer!

          • Lulu says:

            I worked on his first campaign while in college when he ran for the state legislature. He called me “his girl” to which I loudly objected. He was very funny, obnoxious and really kind most of the time. His first wife who I liked a lot and she really loved him but she couldn’t live with his drinking and shenanigans.

          • taw46 says:

            I think it was in 1989 or 1990 when I met him at a restaurant, I believe he was with his wife. I knew a little about him, read more after meeting him. You could tell he was a ladies man, but he also was very gracious to our group.

    • mcnorman says:

      Nancy looked like she got a very special dark chocolate laxative before the speech last night. Chuckie looked like he was holding back a lot of liberal tears as well. All talk which means the “we lost” might actually be sinking in.

    • CiscoKid says:

      Ironic, isn’t it?
      Dem’s have been talking the talk and not delivering for 50 years or more.
      Trump has been President for slightly over a month and has been producing from day one.

  14. Dora says:

    The praise is pouring in. 🙂


    BREAKING : Donald Trump Delivers One of The BEST Presidential Speeches Ever
    President Trump delivered one of the best and most compelling presidential speeches ever.


    • Lulu says:

      I think a lot of people were stupefied. It was so good I just went to bed smiling. I didn’t give a rat what the media or “public” thinkers (sarcasm!) had to say. Hubby didn’t watch as he was afraid the gallery of invited ninnies and nitwits would make a spectacle and cause him indigestion. He can watch it today.

    • taw46 says:

      That was our Trump, the one we watched at all the events and in interviews. All the policies and vision he talked about during the primaries and the GE. Now he was able to say it to millions of people who did not watch him before, only heard the BS reported by MSM. They see now why we wanted a President Trump. It was so good, I was smiling, too!

  15. Venus says:

    NRA bitch slaps the NYT:

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  22. elliesmom says:

    Did you see this line on Twitchy? “Democrats are so worried about losing more seats they didn’t dare stand.”

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    • AFVet says:

      Anybody know why Thomas, Alito, and Ginsberg didn’t show ?

      • Venus says:

        Thomas never goes. Alito decided to join him when the MSM made a huge deal of him shaking his head no when Obama slammed SCOTUS re: Citizens United.

        Ginsberg dragged herself to all 8 of Obama’s but lets be honest — it was way past her bedtime

  24. Anthony says:

    BREAKING – Downtown just crossed over 21,000 four minutes after opening.

    #WINNING #GreatAgain

  25. DeniseVB says:

    This guy, Grilo, is apologizing all over twitter right now, nah, don’t give him a break 😀

  26. votermom says:

    I just found out I can get unpainted Russian nesting dolls on Amazon.
    So I was thinking, I could make a Trump set – Donald, Melania, Ivanka, Barron
    But most sets are 5 dolls – can’t think of who to put on the blank one.

  27. lateblum says:

    I’m gone the rest of the day. May be back late tonight. Can’t wait to read all your comments then.

  28. AFVet says:

    Enjoy. 😀

  29. DandyTIger says:

    The Dems and the MSM are so glum this morning. It’s like Hillary lost all over again!! 🙂 #Winning

  30. Dora says:

    The worst part is that I think she is serious.


    President Winfrey? Oprah says in the age of Trump that she could run for the White House despite being unqualified for the job

    Oprah said she had never thought about possibly being president until Donald Trump won the job
    She believed she was unqualified and didn’t have enough raw knowledge

    ‘And now I’m thinking, “Oh! Oh!” she said’

    Oprah would be the first woman president if she were to leverage her near-universal name ID to match Trump’s political lightning moment

    She already built a successful broadcasting career on unlikely triumphs, including a ratings war that saw her beat legendary interviewer Phil Donahue


    • Lulu says:

      She’s fat. She makes fat commercials. That is a no go. Also she screwed the pooch with her Obama endorsement so that is a no go too. She is no where as popular as she once was or thinks she is.

      • dm says:

        The only thing I ever had any respect for Oprah was her exposing the Amish puppy mills. I was very good friends with someone who had occasion to interact with her way back when she was still in Baltimore. She had a quite high opinion of herself then and apparently still does.

        • AFVet says:

          She’s an elitist.
          Remember the deal with the purse?
          That kind of attitude doesn’t play well in fly-over country.

      • DeniseVB says:

        She’s a racist for choosing the historic skin color over the lady parts candidate. Also, that she’s more qualified to be Pres than Obama was, and I doubt she would even hire him to run Harpo.

    • elliesmom says:

      I don’t think she’s as popular with women as she thinks she is. Talbots is running an Oprah sponsored event for a popular women’s charity. The charity is getting donations, but women are contributing directly, bypassing Talbots because they don’t want any credit to go to Oprah. The comments at places where Talbots has been pushing the “Oprah Collection” are biting. I expect to find a lot of the clothes at the clearance outlet next season. It’s been a long time since Oprah has had her own show. Younger women associate her with Weight Watcher commercials, and older women remember how she stabbed Hillary in the back and trashed sales clerks for not being deferential enough to her.

      • Lulu says:

        Yes. She is an ego maniac. She worked hard for quite a while but she had passed her sell by date and is just a money woman now. The Dems are looking for ANYONE as a great minority savior or woman for 2020. I think they want a Hispanic really. Oprah does not enjoy hard work enough at her advancing age to do what is needed unless it was handed to her which is possible I guess. She is just tooting her own horn which she always does.

  31. Dora says:

    Wow! This is great!

    • Lulu says:

      LOL. Now he is going to do a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party too.

      • Constance says:

        I think that was the significance of the coordinated blue ties on Ryan, Pence and Trump. That they are a united force and they are invading the Dems territory. Red would have been the expected choice to get red white and blue from a dark blue suit, white shirt and red tie and Red would also be the expected Republican choice. So not only did they coordinate they broke expectation.

  32. taw46 says:

  33. Dora says:

    I love this article. I’ve already read it twice.


    Is February 28, 2017, ‘The Night the Democratic Party Died’?

    The Democratic Party members watching that speech looked like a party of the living dead. They didn’t know how to react. They didn’t know if they were Americans. They didn’t know who they were.


  34. gram krakka says:

    No tweet yet from Chelsea? Guess Podesta is still focus group testing possible tweet responses. LOL.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I check on Chels almost everyday because she’s being groomed to run for Congress or something. You can tell momma’s “staff” has been assigned to slobber over her every word “Chelsea you just shine on twitter!” So sometimes I go through the responses and “like” all the comments that respectfully disagree with her 😀

  35. votermom says:

    I think I have a new additional goal – improve my handwriting. Goodness. My third grade teacher would be so sad.

  36. Venus says:

  37. AFVet says:

    Re: Venus just above.

  38. DeniseVB says:

    This is never going to get old.

  39. DeniseVB says:

  40. jenlyntx says:

    We have a fundamental problem in the world. Bad people controlling stupid and lazy people. The bad people in America are mostly Democrats but plenty of them are Republicans. The bad people control at the moment most of the government, education, and media. This is a BIG problem. BIG. Bigly bigly bigly. We are at a crossroads because a miracle happened. Trump got elected, but instead of quieting down and playing nice the bad people are fighting to keep their power (and money) and using the stupid and lazy people to help them. When I look at America I see on one hand brilliance, sacrifice, hope and love but running like Zombies behind that are overweight, tv addicted, media dependent, entitled fools. Trump has to win THEM over — or at least enough of them — to put the Democrats out of business long enough to become unimportant. The American Democratic Party is racist, Islam loving, Black ass kissing, anti-American and a danger to the majority of Americans even those to stupid to realize it. We have severe economic and social issues facing the USA and as Trump said we must work together to make it right again in this country. Like Pandora we are at the bottom of the box and all we have is hope–but that is a lot more than we had with Obama.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Many left the Dems in 2008 because we were simply bullied by fellow Dems for not falling in lockstep behind Obama. I’m sure many more are leaving now because they’re being bullied into joining their stupid Resistance. It certainly doesn’t make me a Republican, because they can be assholes too. Country before (a) Party works for me now. 🙂

      • taw46 says:

        Country before party for me, too. Except FL has a closed primary, so I had to register as an R in order to vote for Trump. I may change it to Ind, or I may leave it be for awhile.

      • jenlyntx says:

        I think we are all Trump and Trump is us. Truly independent i.e. American party. Republicans and Democrats have been exposed as asshats. Time is now though we have had enough country is breaking. Also, country where the MOST millionaires left last year (as in MOVED the hell out) was France. No matter what France, England and Norway say Muslims are/have destroyed their countries. We have to rid this country of black racism (i.e. blacks who are racist against everything), radical islam (i.e. Muslims), welfare dependency, big government not doing its job and corporate america scamming the middle glass. Just say no peeps. Time to just get back to basics. You work, you take care of yourself and your country takes care of you in regards to infrastructure, security, etc., etc. NO MORE LIFETIME welfare, no more lying about unemployment numbers, NO MORE PAYING THE BLACK PIMPS….

  41. DeniseVB says:

    I don’t know why I stay on the Nutroots mailing list, cheap entertainment I guess 😛 We should put a panel together just to troll them with something out of a Portlandia episode. …..

    Each year, we ask for your help in developing and organizing the sessions we host at Netroots Nation.

    Do you have an idea for a panel or training session you’d like to see on the agenda in Atlanta? It’s time to submit your proposal.

    Click here for the guidelines and submission form.

    As always, our goal is to highlight the great work being done by activists and organizations around the country, from national campaigns to local grassroots organizing, as well as to shine a light on what’s happening locally in Atlanta and the surrounding areas.

    You can submit on any topic, but here are a few things we’re looking to emphasize this year:

    Panels highlighting resistance efforts both nationally and locally
    Discussions that challenge us to think long-term about the movement and building grassroots power
    Trainings that help new activists grow into successful organizers
    Advanced trainings that focus on cutting-edge tools and techniques
    As always, we ask you to consider inclusivity as well as how your panel will empower others to take what they’ve heard and use it in their own work. Intersectionality is key.

    By submitting a proposal, you’re taking responsibility as the organizer of the session. We’ll help you along the way, but ultimately it’ll be your baby.

    • DandyTIger says:

      It would be a hoot to submit parody proposals.

      • elliesmom says:

        Providing Food Services for Extended Protests and Occupations

        In this training session we will cover how to procure enough food to provide meals for large crowds using local produce from sustainable sources. Included will be methods to assure the food goes to only the protesters and not to random hungry people who just move into the protest campsites to get fed and steal stuff like iPhones. A food critic will be available to consult about which restaurants and suppliers meet the standards of the average progressive paid or unpaid rabble rouser. Included will be meal planning tips to assure protesters will have adequate fecal matter to deposit at will.

  42. DeniseVB says:

    Mark Dice !

  43. Anthony says:

    Down just closed at 21114. Jesus.

  44. taw46 says:

    This is just awful, I feel so bad for the people who do not support this. Europe has enough problems, now more invaders on the way.

  45. Dora says:

    I know the subject of the Oscars is old now, but there might be another reason for the screw up, so I thought I’d post it.


    Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway couldn’t stop fighting before Oscars


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  47. mothy67 says:

    I think Oprah would be a formidable opponent. She could spend the next 3 years boning up on policy. Her baggage is akin to Trumps. I don’t know where she stands on anything. I wonder if she’d be willing to give up her empire to roll the dice. Other than obama she has mostly stayed out of politics. Does she have the passion? Doubt she’d be a puppet. Has she directly done battle without a slew of lawyers?

    • CiscoKid says:

      I don’t like her one bit, she’s a race card player.
      I watched the program only once when Romney was a guest.
      One of the first questions she asked Mitt was “is it true if you win the Republicans are going to bring back slavery? I switched stations.
      What he should have done is stand up and said F’ck you and walked off.

      • mothy67 says:

        Nor do I, but she thinks the world of herself. She checks off a few of the correct dim boxes. Name recognition. If hollywood and big media come begging will her ego be big enough to persuade her?

    • NewOrleans says:

      Oprah would have been a formidable opponent at one time. Not now. She destroyed her credibility in 2008 by siding with Obama over Hillary.

      She would never withstand the scrutiny of a political race. There would be too many questions about her personal life and she’d never want that to happen.

      All of this talk about Oprah possibly running for office is for publicity – especially her investment and partnership with Weight Watchers. And it worked beautifully. The stock price in Weight Watchers soared today nearly 30%.

      • Jeffhas says:

        “She would never withstand the scrutiny of a political race”

        I don’t doubt the Dems would run and suppprt her, but I don’t think she’d ever make it out of the primary – certainly not in one piece.

        Look what Donald had to go through, and the only reason he survived and became Teflon was that he fought back personally. Not through lawyers not through sidekicks – he hit back on Twitter or he got them right in their face at a debate. Oprah is not capable of getting that rough and tumble.

        I’m not doubting her ego is it telling her she can and should do it, I’d love to see it to be honest with you – it would absolutely destroyed her brand…. Sayonara Oprah.

    • elliesmom says:

      Her Leadership Academy for Girls in Africa hired a matron for the girls who physically and sexually abused the them. They also found a dead baby in one of the girl’s backpacks. Oprah fired the headmistress who then sued Oprah. The cases were settled out of court for undisclosed amounts. I assume lawyers were involved. The school has been controversial from the start. Oprah spent $40 million building the school. There was criticism over how lavish the school is. The folks in South Africa would have liked more students admitted over 600 ct sheets.

      Then there’s the time she got sued by the cattle ranchers over careless remarks she made about the safety of eating beef. Lots of lawyers.

      There are a lot of things in Oprah’s background that aren’t all good. She’d probably have to be a bit more forthcoming about the Oprah/Gayle/Stedman triangle.

      But mostly she’s a has been.

    • mcnorman says:

      I think Moo would run her over first.

  48. DandyTIger says:

    McCain and Miss Lindsey will be crying at 10pm. Should be fun. 🙂

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