Heavenly Marksmanship


Satan: “I bet you can’t hit a moving target.”

God: “Hold my beer and watch this.”

I have a cold. I’m pretty sure Mom gave it to me.

Last night I was having an erotic dream starring Taylor Swift. It wasn’t raunchy. but it was getting close. Then suddenly Lena Dunham joined us on the bed.

I have had bad dreams before, but I have never had a good dream go south so suddenly. I literally went from being hot and bothered to waking up in a cold sweat just like that. {{Snaps fingers}}

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159 Responses to Heavenly Marksmanship

  1. mothy67 says:

    Something is seriously wrong with me. I am watching Teen Wolf. It is soooooo gay. The ads are all for cars and the actors are all pretty. Who is the target audience. Teens don’t lease cars.

  2. votermom says:

  3. mothy67 says:

    So sun is shining. Very warm by my deck. Bunny and Bella are basking together in the sun. It is the sweetest thing. One might actually be fooled into thinking she is not Satan. Very strange how she loves rabbit. They play. She is very gentle with bunny.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    The Daily Chelsea, lol.

  5. votermom says:

    That lightning video, I thought they said you’d be safe inside a car. Lied to again, I have been.

    • elliesmom says:

      You are safe from being electrocuted inside a car because the electrical field inside the car cancels itself out. (Short explanation. But rubber tires have nothing to do with it.) You aren’t safe from the fire caused by a direct hit to the gas tank.,

  6. helenk3 says:

    for the bookclub
    The Son- by Philipp Meyer. it is going to be a series on AMC starting April 8. I saw the ad and watched a promo. it looks really good. I added AMC to my roku and then bought two books by this man
    the son and American Rust.
    From what I have seen so far, I think this is going to be one of my favorite authors

  7. elliesmom says:

    One of the women in an online sewing group posted a pic of herself leaving for a young women in physics conference. She’s not overweight, but she made herself a blue floral dress Omar the Tentmaker would be proud of. Topped it with her granny’s sweater. (Come to think of it, I’m a granny, and I wouldn’t wear it so it must be her great-granny’s.) I can see her legs are hairy. She’s wearing low top brown hiking boots and white ankle socks. Her hair is in a curly bun. This has got to be a spoof, right? So far, someone has suggested a belt, and someone else linked a pattern for tights. I’m thinking about a link to a women’s studies course.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Well, now it’s all starting to make sense 😉

  9. foxyladi14 says:

    The marriage made in hell. 😀

  10. blowme0bama says:

    • lyn says:

      That’s a lot better than “Fuck Trump!”

    • DeniseVB says:

      I love how the photographers swarm “the action” like hungry rats to a fresh garbage dump.

      The anti-Trumpers apparently escaped their free speech zone and should have never been that close to the marchers.

      • blowme0bama says:

        Y’all may be ahead of it, but I’m just catching up. Apparently, the loveable antifa peppersprayed some elderly folks at the rally. This was the response. Also read that 6 antifa were arrested and charged with felony use of pepper spray. #winning

    • blowme0bama says:

      Yeah, maybe wearing those masks wasn’t such a good idea.

  11. Dora says:

  12. Dora says:

    I thought nothing about the church would surprise me any more, but I admit this is a bit shocking.

    ==

    History may well show what impact Saul David Alinsky did or did not have on Pope Paul VI, and on contemporary radical modernist Catholicism – especially in the United States of America.

    Pope Paul VI, before being elected pope, spent two weeks consulting with Saul David Alinsky “on the Church’s relationship to local Communist unions.” Saul Alinsky was already a famous published author when they met:

    https://abyssum.org/2017/03/24/history-may-well-show-what-impact-saul-david-alinsky-did-or-did-not-have-on-pope-paul-vi-and-on-contemporary-radical-modernist-catholicism-especially-in-the-united-states-of-america/

  13. Somebody says:

    Klown you have some kind of suppressed something or other when it comes to Lena Dunham, dude she creeps into your dreams far too often. Do whatever you have to do to purge her from your subconscious!

    My vacation ends tomorrow……boo hoo, sniff. I didn’t finish all my projects either. Mainly because I took on a last minute project. I stumbled across an old cedar chest last weekend, it’s huge. I got it for a song, but it’s turning out to be more than I bargained for. The inside is pristine, all original hinges and locks in good working order with no rust. Outside it’s a mess, painted yellow and white, apparently there are layers of paint. I’ve been stripping it and sanding a little, at first I was in LOVE with it because underneath it is downright gorgeous…….until I got to the sides. This thing is solid cedar, covered in a beautiful veneer with an inlaid pattern……stunning. The sides are a plain burled veneer, but there are large chips at the bottom of both sides AND the veneer has been completely removed on the sides of the trunk lid……what to do, what to do. I’m thinking of getting new burled veneer to put on both sides. The top of the trunk and the sides are in good shape except a few scratches which I can deal with via sanding and other measures. Last but not least it is supposed to sit on a nice base with a scroll design but in the center. Apparently that broke sometime back and somebody made a plain base from pine. If I get veneer I can cover the base with matching veneer, but I’m wondering if I could talk my neighbor into cutting that design for the front. He’s big into woodworking, his entire 3 car garage is a wood shop, he’s out there tinkering just about every evening. I’ll happily pay him, but if I do that applying the veneer will probably take more talent than I possess…..so I should probably leave it plain.

    In other news my mother recently paid a fortune to remove every single tree from her yard, most were 50 year old oak trees. It was a gross overreaction to a large limb falling and taking out a section of fence. My father planted all those trees many moons ago, they divorced in 1984 after 31 years of marriage. She’s always resented the leaves and the fact that the grass struggles under the shade of the trees, both have always been my father’s fault. So I think there was a personal issue at play, ripping the last vestiges of my father from the house. Her house, her right. Now the yard is stark and requires landscaping, according to my sister mom “needs” about $10,000 worth of landscaping……how convenient with Mother’s Day and her birthday right around the corner………..she’s an old woman on a fixed income…….she has 4 kids, we all have more income than she does…….we need to go in together and pay to landscape…..we could at least do half the yard if we’re going to get cheap about it.

    This happens constantly, she guilts my sisters……if you really love me you’ll do this. The only thing my heart desires is “this”. If I only had “this” I would be truly happy, but she never is and “this” is ALWAYS expensive as hell. “This” has been kitchen and bathroom remodels, trips to far away places, expensive jewelry, on and on. My sister always underestimates the cost and the time involved, it’s always a clusterfuck. Next year it will be something else, hubby and I told my sister a couple of years ago we were done with this kind of crap. My mom’s 80th birthday a couple of years ago cost each of us $1,579 for a party that was mostly family and at my brother’s home…..WTF? “This” used to set us back $400 or $500, the last few years the demands are greater and the price tag higher and we’re in the thousands……ENOUGH!

    My siblings will all turn on me and tell my mom, but for me…..she could have what she wants, she could be happy……except for mean, cheap old me. So she’ll call me and badger me and lay guilt trips on me, eventually she’ll probably go off on me in a nasty rage if she doesn’t get her way. I guess you can figure out why my parents divorced, yep it was ALL my father’s fault, everything, LOL! I’m 55 years old, I have lots of things going on in my life,I don’t need this shit. Oh and the icing on the cake, the new landscape plan includes TREES, WTF? I think I’ve pissed my siblings off to a fair thee well this morning because they’re not responding to my texts. It’s possible I may have been a little bitchy and filled with snark……just a touch. Trees, she wants fucking trees, seriously???

    Thank you for the opportunity to vent and bless you if you made it all the way through this long post…..sorry.

    • lyn says:

      Yikes! Your mother should have received money for the oak trees if their wood was usable.

      Somebody, hold your ground. It’s great to help with necessary things, but what your siblings are doing is ridiculous. Tell them to have a work party and do the landscaping themselves.

      • Somebody says:

        Yes she should have, but she didn’t. She hired some guy that came by after a big storm, there was a lot of damage in her neighborhood so tree guys descended. They took the trees out and left the stumps. She paid them to take the trees and yesterday she paid someone to grind the stumps. It was her decision, she didn’t consult any of us on it.

    • Miranda says:

      Sorry about that. Family drama sucks.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I think when I’m 80 the last place I’d want to be is rattling around a big ole house alone. I really can’t wait to move in with fellow seniors in a cute condo community with 24/7 maintenance on call and lots of fun amenities. Sorry about the trees and the extra cost of landscaping, maybe selling the house would have been the best revenge ? 😉

      • lyn says:

        I’m 60 this year, and that’s what I want now! 😉

      • Constance says:

        I’m with Denise, I love the idea of a senior community, just not yet. I’m also dealing with living in a huge family sized house that the rest of the family has moved on from. I have a friend of 35 years living with me and I’m running a area that has a separate entrance as an Airbnb, that way I can pay the taxes and the landscaping. I cut out a bunch of trees my ex planted because he had been shearing them for years and I have always hated the tortured tree and shrub look. Now I’m putting in new trees which I will prune correctly so the trees don’t look sick and twisted into unnatural shapes.
        But I would say your Mom might not know how to look for a different place to live and if you took her out one Sunday to see what was available you might be surprised at her interest. That could make your life easier in the long run.

        • DeniseVB says:

          You wouldn’t be talking about Crepe Myrtle trees? LOL, my dh commits “crepe murder” every year on them. I’m the laughing stock of our garden club, sigh.

          • DandyTIger says:

            I have tons of Crepe Myrtles. And they spread. Well, new ones very easily seed. Problem is they tend to kill whatever is around them. I think it’s about time I show them who’s boss. And yes, in the end, it will be them. 🙂

          • Constance says:

            No these are Leyland Cypress trees that should be majestic which look tortured into tall rectangles. Also a Photinia which in Seattle looks like a really cool red and green leafed 25 foot tree if left to grow with only the lower branches stripped out, but no, mine were hacked into little boxes. But my new garden is looking fresh and promising.

          • Constance says:

            AND I am growing lettuce, tomatoes and other vegetables in the front yard in the sunniest spot I have just like a “F’ing Hillbilly”. Hahahahah! Finally a sensible planting plan!

      • 49erDweet says:

        Ixnay on the “cute seniors condo” idea. Our choir visits several each year and they each seem sterile and joyless to me. You’d have more fun in a retired truck drivers’ home.

        • elliesmom says:

          I don’t want to live where the major source of conversation is what happens in the bathroom. All of my “students” in my sewing class are seniors, and we took a vote. Bodily issues are left at the door unless you’re in need of immediate medical attention. We bought a smaller house in a neighborhood that’s mixed age-wise. We aren’t the only retired folks, but there are young families, too. If I need constant medical care, I’d consider a nursing home, but there’s no way I’m moving to where everybody is old otherwise.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Are those the assisted living type homes? Those can be tough. In grade school, my dd’s class decorated the entrance at one for Halloween. Lots of tombstones with R.I.P. OMG, what were they thinking??? LOL.

        • Jadzia says:

          When I get old I am hoping to move into the family apartment in Paris. It’s 2 bedrooms and in a nice neighborhood. Probably nobody else will want it because my husband’s two brothers already live there (in the nicer suburbs) and have proper, decent-sized homes.

    • Ann says:

      You could all chip in for a $1,000 gift card to Home Depot and tell her “Happy Mother’s Day!”. I am sure that would go over well. And then yes, one day of labor donated by all and it is what it is afterward.

      I will say that every single last time we do something for my parents, recommend someone to them for a project, research a purchase, pay for landscaping, snowplowing, cleaning service – whatever it happens to be, it ends up being “no good deed goes unpunished”. I hate when they call for my input because I know that I will be spending weeks looking into something, arranging it, if it was a gift we paid for (even worse!), and if one teeny tiny thing goes wrong, BAM!! it is all my fault. And my parents are not even that old – early 70s! And this has been going on for a good 10 years now.

      So, I totally sympathize with your plight.

      • Somebody says:

        Oh Ann, I know exactly where you are coming from. In fact all 4 of us try to push these things off to the other. None of us want to be the one that is responsible. Something goes wrong we get the calls, complaints are never ending.

        Mom’s computer has been a brick for a couple of years. My siblings are constantly talking about a new one or a laptop or tablet……no way, no how. I will have NO part of that. We gave mom a computer years ago and my husband became tech support. Computer died, tech support calls stopped, not going there again. I told my siblings they were on their own, they chickened out because they don’t want to become tech support. We’re still home theater and DVD tech support.

        The 3 of us that live here have all had our turn in the barrel with car shopping. Any problem, any trip to the shop, buying tires, anything to do with the car becomes your fault or duty. Mom bought a car last year. My BIL flew in from CA and took mom shopping. If she ever needs another car we’ll do it this way again. He enjoyed the hell out of car shopping and mom won’t spend the $$ to call him long distance and complain. (She doesn’t know LD is free on her cell).

        • Ann says:

          The computer tech support is the worst! I have no patience, so made Hubby do it. When my niece’s boyfriend (now fiancé) started working for Ingram Micro, we “promoted” him to their tech support. They gift him a little something and never, ever complain about the results! Total win!!

        • Jadzia says:

          Well, I think I’m actually gonna win this one, because the last time I received a parental visit in Los Angeles (and you’re about to find out why it was the LAST TIME they got to come), a parental unit who shall remain nameless called me, AT WORK, immediately after deplaning and asked me to procure drugs. Um, WHAT? Are you new here? Do you not know that you’re talking to Alex P. Keaton? Nope. The next night we went out to dinner, a drunk parental unit who shall remain nameless knocked a heavy wooden screen (one of those Balinese things) over onto me, leaving me with a black eye, and I got one of those “Is everything OK at home?” interrogations at work the next day.

          Also, my boyfriend, whom I had known for 17 years, departed in the middle of the night during their visit, never to return. Although it wasn’t THAT upsetting in terms of losing that particular boyfriend, I will always wonder if the family situation had something to do with that.

    • blowme0bama says:

      Yeah, I’m going to agree with you here. Your Mom’s over 80 and unless y’all think it is going to improve the resale value of the house (because she ain’t going to live forever), Mom needs to suck it up and deal with it. Should have thought of that before cutting down the majestic oaks.

    • mcnorman says:

      Wow, your sisters sound just like mine except that they NEVER pitch in at the last moment. I gave up after I purchased a car for her and she turned around and gave it to someone in the family. I’m done. Thank you.

    • Somebody says:

      She did a great job, maybe it’s just me but isn’t kind of creepy to eat POTUS? Not to mention, hacking POTUS up to eat…….just no.

  14. votermom says:

    Oh! Fade is free today!
    Here is an old post I did on it, the link is good.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Seems like a fun place to work. 🙂 Beck is completely insane. But after seeing the freedom caucus kill the Ocare replacement, good or not, I’m wondering if the very conservative wing of the party has lost all their marbles. They seem exactly as rigid and intolerant as the very liberal wing of the Dem party. IOW, zealots of her lady of delusional thinking.

    • lyn says:

      Yep. Burn the witches. Tomi will get stronger. Milo needs to make her an offer.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Wonder if she eats dogs too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      It was billed as an over-21 event ? Club could lose their liquor license? Ms.Malia has been known for hardy partying, I just scoff it off as stuff teens do. When my dd left for college in NYC at 17, my mom advice was if you get caught drinking or with weed, do NOT make me your first phone call. 🙂

    • swanspirit says:

      I don’t think he controlled his temper. In public, yes, but not in private. I have a feeling in private he is explosive. Like a true abuser, only goes off when no one is looking.
      And if daughter has that little control, and that much entitlement; the tabloids are going to be fun in the future.

    • mcnorman says:

      No different than the Bush girls. Back in Austin certain individuals in the legal department were told not to leak any details of their constant drinking and debauchery. They both look like such sweet girls, but they were wild in high school.

      • Jadzia says:

        If they’re still minors, and not actually getting arrested, I don’t have much of a problem with that. Lots of teenagers go through a wild phase, and I can’t imagine having it plastered all over the tabloids would improve the situation. See: Lohan, Lindsay. Once they’re older (or if they’re actually hurting other people) it’s a different story, of course.

  15. DeniseVB says:

    Another funny one…….

  16. Constance says:

    My daughter told me this “joke” yesterday. “When it comes to Presidents, Orange is the new Black” Ha ha ha, snort!

  17. DandyTIger says:

    My thinking of the health care efforts is that this last bill is the one and only chance for a Republican only health care fix. The next effort will be bi-partisan and will move more to the middle. I think Scott Adams has the same theory. The same will happen with tax reform. The first effort will be Republican only. If that doesn’t work, a bi-partisan effort will happen. If the Dems are in lockstep over Trump being Hitler, those won’t likely work. But if they’re smart, they will. And along with those will be the infrastructure funding efforts. So amazing to see the GOP have the most amazing opportunity to shape the country, and instead let the Dems lead the way. Can’t say Trump didn’t try.

    • kanaughty says:

      something is so backwards with these parties. the repubs act as if they are in the minority and the democrats act like they are in the majority. repubs need to get their shit together and start compromising and making deals instead of looking weak to democrats. they need to cease the power that they have and act as if they will only have it for 2 years. because if this weakness keeps up with them, voters will not go out and revote them back in. voters have given them a gift and they are taking it for granted. they think their future is sealed as majority party, but not if they don’t start showing some damned spine. they are acting so spineless and the dems have all the hubris. it’s really weird how these parties are not acting as they should be when it comes to power balance. and I don’t like it one bit that we voted for them and they are not doing as the voters asked them to do.

    • Without the mandates Obamacare will implode by itself. And the mandates are what people really hate.

      • DandyTIger says:

        Yep. And as it implodes and it’s Obama/Dems fault, Dems will be more interested in being part of the fix. A bi-partisan fix will be much more to the center than this first attempt. But then the freedom caucus and others had to know that. Unless, you know, they’re stupid or something.

        • 1539days says:

          The Freedom Caucus knew that once the House bill was passed, the Senate bill would be much more Obamacare-lite. By the time it got to conference, a lot of what they wanted would be gone. They were trying to put their marker down in this bill so that they would have a place to negotiate from.

          The reason why Obamacare is not socialized medicine is because there was no conference committee. The House was forced to pass the Senate version with no changes, and that bill was much more about insurance company subsidies than a “public option.”

  18. kanaughty says:

    was that a delorean? I have heard, but maybe it is a myth, that cars are insulated against lightning strikes? myth busters? anyway, my step mom has claimed to me that she has been hit by lightning 4 times. I am not sure if I believe her, but if so, wow the odds are against her.

    • 49erDweet says:

      No, it wasn’t.

    • elliesmom says:

      You’re insulated from lightning strikes inside any metal cage, There’s a cool demonstration at the Museum of Science in Boston. They lower a cage from the ceiling with a museum employee inside. Then they use a huge Van der Graaf generator to strike it with bolts of lightning. The person inside is unharmed and usually looks bored (on purpose).

    • Security: “This is the women’s restroom, you have to leave.”
      Man: “I identify as a woman.”
      Security: “Then why are you ogling the other women?”
      Man: “Because I’m a lesbian.”

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Had to happen. 😡

    • jenlyntx says:

      This is why I carry mace and other weapons in my purse. I say hit first and ask questions later. And sue. And never apologize. NO PENIS IN MY BATHROOM. Sincerely, BORN FEMALE with all the necessary genitalia to prove it and nothing extra

  19. NBD says:

    Hahaha! Trump apparently handed Merkel an invoice for hundreds of billions owed for NATO defense.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-angela-merkel-nato-bill-defence-ignore-usa-germany-spending-a7650636.html

    That’s one way of making a point!

  20. swanspirit says:

    My gorgeous and multi talented friend Pris Hernandez is doing a live concert on YouTube just now, very ethereal, and wonderful.

  21. cynic says:

    Klown, you get Lena Dunham in your dreams, and I get tornadoes. My reoccurring tornado dreams have been coming to me since I was 7, and my hometown was hit by a tornado. I was in 1st grade when it hit, and we took shelter in the hallway of the school. We were sent home early, told to go straight home, & don’t touch any downed wires. My mom came to pick us up, and on the way home, I saw that my uncles garage was destroyed, as well as us having trouble finding a way to reach our home due to the debris/downed trees.

    That was a particularly tornado active Spring, and we spent many evenings down our basement. I would try to sleep, and I could hear my sister typing her term paper (she’s 10 yrs. older than me.) From that moment on, the tornado dreams came, and again, having lived thru one here, on Feb. 28th. Yes, I had another one last night, but our town is now a constant reminder to me.

    We were all very lucky as my son and his family live 1/4 mile North, and my daughter and her family, 1/4 mile south of where it struck. It started out as an EF3, crossed the river and luckily became an EF1. It destroyed quite a bit of the little community just to the West of us, and on the South side of the river, many homes were destroyed by the beautiful old oak trees that came down. One was a 190 yo red oak. Only two people died, which is amazing.

    I should have had both babies that day, but one was home sick. I can’t believe how ill prepared I was for something like that. While watching them, I don’t have the tv, radio, or computer on. The cell phone was out because a tower was hit, and living out in the country, we didn’t hear the tornado siren. I was oblivious as to what was happening! The power went out right away, so we had no water (on a well) as well. Luckily, our power came on after 11 hrs., and before it started getting cold in our house.

    Since this has happened, we now own more flashlights, a couple of LED lanterns, and a weather radio.

    Don’t see those tornado dreams going away anytime soon.

    • Somebody says:

      (((Cynic))) I can well imagine how the recent tornado rekindled those childhood memories. Thank goodness your child and grandbabies are all OK, as well as you and your hubby.

      I understand completely where you are coming from about having the babies and not knowing what is going on. I was lucky when the tornado hit here, my cell phone was working and it warned me……but yes I was ill prepared to have children under such circumstances. I made changes too.

      I hope your bad dreams go away very soon and replaced with happy, wonderful dreams about those beautiful grandbabies! (((HUGS)))

    • Jadzia says:

      That is terrifying!

  22. DandyTIger says:

    The “Walton’s” have been in my neighborhood for a few days for a reunion. They were at Monticello, the house and museum of the real John-Boy (the writer and narrator), and a few other places.

  23. votermom says:

    We visited the puppies again! We are trying to decide between the two boy puppies: one is the biggest one in the litter and the other is the smallest. The big boy is cuddly, the small one is agile.
    Hubby & KTY are leaning towards big & cuddly.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I vote for BOTH 😀

    • lyn says:

      I’d go with cuddly.

    • elliesmom says:

      Unless you’re planning to take the dog hunting, I’d go with cuddly, too.

      • Somebody says:

        Ditto, cuddly for sure. My husband HAD to have a dog with “personality”. We had decided on a Bichon for a variety of reasons. We looked at so many I lost count, hubby always vetoed, not enough personality he’d say. We finally ended up buying the runt of the litter from a private breeder. This dog had a grandpa that had won championships and a daddy that had won some local and regional shows. Breeders flocked to buy up the litter, but the little guy they passed up. To say he had personality would be an understatement, he was also stubborn as hell and OMG the stuff that dog got into. He and I had a love hate relationship quite often.

        We got a second dog, a long haired mini-dachshund. She is cuddly, hell she’s a big baby. She wants to be held all the time, which can get annoying but she’s placid and docile and so easy going.

        The bichon would pee in the house out of spite, my dachshund would never dare. On and on the list goes…….go for the beta, cuddly puppy, trust me.

  24. AFVet says:

    I wonder if Trump knows about this?

    http://atlas.md/wichita/

  25. blowme0bama says:

    I laughed my ass off.

  26. Dora says:

  27. votermom says:

    funny

  28. Dora says:

    Remember ladies – if you are ever sexually assaulted make sure you scream very loudly.

  29. AFVet says:

    Cute little chick can really play the drums.

  30. mothy67 says:

    I wish I understood the health insurance debacle better. I think it might be different for people that live away from a city. When I was hospitalized I had no insurance. I did not qualify for any aid. I was given a very reasonable payment plan. It was a chunk of change each month, but I could pay it and did. Someone with no resources would get medicaid they do it retroactively. Are people that don’t do preventive care using it now. I went to a clinic for follow up. It was like 30 a pop. It’s a sliding scale. My insurance now has a copay which is more. I have no idea how we can deal with prexisting conditions. Expanding medicaid seems like it would make sense. No healthcare for non citizens. Who pays for anchor babies?

    • Somebody says:

      A big chunk of medicaid pays for anchor babies. If you expand medicaid to cover preexisting conditions, over time half the country or more will end up on medicaid.

      Most states had high risk pools before Obamacare, but not all. Also, a lot of those high risk people ended up on Medicare which many people didn’t realize. Once you go 5 months without an income you can qualify if you have say cancer. When my little girl had leukemia I used to hang out on support boards. It was eye opening. I was really surprised how many bone marrow transplants medicare paid for.

      Another thing rarely discussed is that a lot of hospitals got tax $$ to defray the cost of caring for the indigent.

      Now that everyone must be insured where are the savings? The anchor babies we’re still paying for, but the other stuff should now be covered by Obamacare. It seems the Obamacare way is more expensive.

    • Jadzia says:

      Do medical providers let people have payment plans these days? When I had Bruno, his NICU stay and everything else got rejected by my insurance company because they thought it was a mistake (he was born 10 months after his older brother, and I guess they figured that somebody else’s records got mixed up with mine, ha ha lolsob). So I got an awesome $75K bill and obviously it was GOING to be covered once it was clear that yep, this was my childbirth, but the hospital sent everything to collections with the quickness.

      • votermom says:

        Jadzia, unrelated – what are popular dog names in France? KTY thinks since it’s a poidfle his name shoukd be French -related

      • mothy67 says:

        They did for me even before I was released. I had to apply for medicaid as a formality. I was rejected. It took me two years. It had been a Catholic hospital that U of Pitt bought. It’s still run by sisters of Mercy and I think part of the deal was they had to accept those without insurance. I used to live at 168th and Fort Washington(Columbia Presbyterian) was right there. Not a lot of English speaking restaurants so I got to know a lot of staff as there was one Irish pub where I ate every day off. They told me the undocumented use ER as doctor’s office and just don’t pay. It’s not like they cared about collection. I think covering the illegals is something hospitals pushed. It’s far to complex an issue for me. Given a choice I’d rather just have catastrophic. My PC costs more now with insurance than it did when I paid cash at clinic.

        • taw46 says:

          My cousin worked as a hospital nurse for 25 yrs. She told me years ago that the ER had to treat anyone who came in, even if they did not pay. Just like you said, most treated it as a doctor’s office.

  31. mothy67 says:

    My liver and kidneys stopped working about 5 years ago. I had ascites. It usually means without a transplant you die. I did some soul searching. I was 45, I could not take an organ before a kid. I have been blessed. The docs were pushing me to get on list. It made no sense to me. I had open heart. I would think I would not be a candidate. I bowed out. Turned 50 in January. The financial people suggested I could get coverage. I did not want to die but it didn’t feel right. I lied that I had a ride got out of hospital and walked home. 6.5 miles. Smoked as I walked uphill. Dying my ass.
    Hope your daughter is doing well.

  32. mothy67 says:

    I am considering closing the book on my prog friends. I just cannot align myself with what they stand for. I quit facebook years ago to avoid confrontation. Since the election they are doubling down. Latest was an attack on brat. Not everyone gets what she gets. She is spoiled. Really? I chose to care for her. I don’t indulge. I broke down and bought socks. She dresses well. I have had same coat for five winters. My choice. I can do the extras because I did not choose to live in a city and spend 60 thousand on tuition to a progressive school while scoffing at suburbs. I took out 3500 and got a credit card offer with o% for 14 months. I was going to use it for tutoring. They don’t think she needs it. I won’t touch card but its been 10 years since I took a vacation. Vegas or New Orleans is calling. I am in a better position because I avoided debt. 3500 could be fun in New Orleans. I am simple. I can eat at Wendy’s. I lived in NYC and London. No itch to go to either. Paris is tempting, I was there almost 30 years ago. Stayed in a hostel and was drunk with Australians. I’d love to see as a grown up, but probably a hassle.

  33. Dora says:

    Is this what the dems want for us?

  34. Dora says:

    Schumer is betting that McConnell does not have the votes to change the rules. Blocking Gorsuch would be a devastating blow to President Trump and Schumer seems gleeful at the thought.

    Schumer cares nothing about the people or the country, just about humiliating Donald J. Trump. He is a vicious and hateful man

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    Schumer confident Democrats have votes to block Gorsuch

    The Senate minority leader is prepared to force Mitch McConnell to try to invoke the ‘nuclear option.’

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/chuck-schumer-neil-gorsuch-filibuster-scotus-nomination-236441

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