Sunday Open Thread

This NFL/NBA and now MLB, knee thing is really getting silly on social media, and I’m loving it 😀

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233 Responses to Sunday Open Thread

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Same NFL owners who fine twerking, yes, a form of free speech, in the end zone?

    • mothy67 says:

      It’s not even a free speech issue. Turds tailer 1st A to suit delusions.

    • Constance says:

      Well I condemn the NFL not paying taxes like the rest of us.

      • DeniseVB says:

        If they paid taxes….it would pay for the wall, not Escalades and million dollar mansions 🙂

      • John Denney says:

        Seems to me most of the NFL income goes as salaries for the executives, who would pay ordinary income tax rates on it.
        But it is strange the NFL is tax exempt, but not NHL, NBA, and MLB.

        • Constance says:

          If it is true that the NFL and those associated with them pay as much tax as they would with out the tax exempt status then they should just give up the tax exempt status because it looks appalling. But that is not happening so I think it is safe to assume they don’t pay their fair share.

          • John Denney says:

            “If it is true that the NFL and those associated with them pay as much tax as they would with out the tax exempt status then they should just give up the tax exempt status because it looks appalling.”
            Just because the NFL organization is tax exempt does not mean executive and employee salaries are tax exempt.

          • Constance says:

            “Just because the NFL organization is tax exempt does not mean executive and employee salaries are tax exempt”
            Normal companies pay tax on their profits and their employees pay tax on their salaries, the NFL needs to go along with the program. Why should we carry a bunch of privileged asshole jocks on our backs or carry a bunch of bizillionaire Liberal owners on our backs.

      • Venus E. Lee says:

        NFL rules require players to be on field prior to anthem They can change the rule of course if they really want to speed up their demise

        • That’s not in the rules according to the media. *snort*

          https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/24/16358238/nfl-players-national-anthem-requirement

          I did take a quick look and could not find it. There’s rumors there may be discipline, but honestly, if it’s not in the rules I think Goodell would do well to adopt the convention as a rule. The Anthem would continue to be displayed on TV, but the players could not jack around with it because of this concerted effort to politicize these guys (which became a focus of BLM after it worked at Mizzou). That’s a win for patriotic Americans and would take away one of the left’s favorite attacking points in their anti-American zeal.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Once again DJT has captured the viewpoint of the common man and forced progressive idiots to take an illogical step against their fiduciary interests. Brilliant and ironic. He should patent the process and rent it out on the open market. They really can’t survive this big a $$$ hit in their present form. I see belt tightening in a bunch of athletes’ futures.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    In f**king London.

    • swanspirit says:

      Pieces of crap. They deserve no respect. None whatsoever. I think money spent on their inflated salaries, would be better spent helping hurricane victims, earthquake victims, victims of crimes, and best of all, would be better spent helping wounded veterans.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Pro-football players used to be role models for young boys to look up to and be inspired by what hard work and perseverance can achieve for you. Now they’re just whiny crybabies to be ignored until they finish their little tantrums 😀

        • 1539days says:

          To be fair, a lot of professional athletes don’t like the police for breaking up their drug buys, taking their illegal guns or arresting them for beating their spouses.

        • jenlyntx says:

          Any American who still supports professional sports should GET THEIR BRAINS CHECKED. FUCK these assholes. I wouldn’t watch a game until every single one of these assholes fucking apologies and donates a year of their salaries to a veteran. FUCK THEM ALL. Turn off the tv, write the advertisers, write the NFL owners and yes I am doing all of the above. SICK as hell of this bullshit. If you are against Trump you are against truth, what is right and the fucking American way. All the man has said or done is say Uphold the Constitution, the Laws, and protect the citizens. If you are against that get the FUCK out of my country. Any questions cause this is not that complicated people. Trump has done nothing but tell the truth and if you have a problem with that it ain’t my problem.

      • Constance says:

        Very true!

        • jenlyntx says:

          The saddest thing is that these stupid stupid people do not see the HATRED and utter contempt these blacks, asian doctors, libtards, hollyweirds have for us. It is clear now because what Trump did was make them show us who they really are. They are hateful, evil, stupid, petty assholes and they need to be ignored, fired, demoted, and not re-elected. The black pastors have done a fabulous job of making black people hate white people the KKK would be proud. The only problem is that we are going to have to take some hits–some hard hard hits–before we can truly be victorious. I wish someone would start a F..K the NFL movement and it would go viral. Take their money and all the professional sports ‘stars’ would be fast food workers. Most of them are thugs and hateful thugs at that. We have to really change if we are going to MAGA. Perhaps starting with getting rid of professional sports is a way to begin the change. We can have a new one with no thugs and a hard and fast rule that your ass will be standing for the anthem or your ass will be fired yesterday.

    • helenk3 says:

      Knowing the history of the National Anthem written in Baltimore Harbor this makes me sick,
      these scumbags need not come back to this country. they are a waste of space and air.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    I’d rather watch a cute weiner dog puppy video 😉

    • Somebody says:

      My weiners are cuter! I should start filming them and start a blog…..double trouble weiners……sister dogs……M&M…..Weiner pups???

      If I only had time, perhaps I should just have a postcards from the edge blog…….a middle aged woman, two puppies, 3 grandkids, a teen and zero sanity!

  4. DeniseVB says:

    They stood for the UK anthem 😦

  5. DeniseVB says:

    For VM , put that boy to work 😀

    • swanspirit says:

      That is what they were originally bred for. Those thick coats were for protecting them from freezing water when they retrieved fallen waterfowl.

    • votermom says:

      I was just asking around about a good sport for him that would be simple for ME.
      I don’t hunt though. Sad. We could be out there getting our dinners, huh?

      • DeniseVB says:

        My neighbor has a goldendoodle who’s a pet therapy dog, she takes him to local nursing homes and hospitals. I always thought that would be a cool thing to do 🙂 I think it involves an AKC Good Canine Citizenship (?) training and certificate, I could only find a list of groups, maybe one near you can give you more info. It’s a very low-impact sport too 😀 I bet your breeder would be a good source of info too.

        http://www.akc.org/events/title-recognition-program/therapy/organizations/

      • elliesmom says:

        You might try agility training. Ellie loves it, but she refuses to go through the tunnel. You teach him one station at a time. If you aren’t going to compete, you can design your own course.

  6. Jeffhas says:

    Steve Mnuchin BITCHSLAPS Martha Raddatz over NFL. What a tremendous representation of the Trump administration. I wasn’t sure about this guy from the beginning, and his wife clearly has ‘something going on’ upstairs, but he went right for it with Martha. I’ve watched him several times on these Sunday shows, and he gets better and better.

    Bravo!

    • DeniseVB says:

      Our President sure knows how to tie up the weekend media, lol, wonder what he’s really up to.

    • Somebody says:

      I agree about Mnuchin’s wife. I think it bothers her that they aren’t popular with the A listers like they were when Mnuchin was producing movies.

      I think Mnuchin himself is having the time of his life. Wilbur Ross seems to be too. Many of POTUS’s cabinet picks are. I don’t think POTUS micro-manages, I think he trusts his team members until they prove not to be worthy of trust.

      So many of his cabinet picks seem to be outsiders and not particularly partisan. Some are D’s and some are R’s. Many of them seem to be approaching their position from a once in a lifetime opportunity perspective. They all seem to be on board with MAGA although there are some internal disagreements as to the best policies and path to take to get there. That is a good thing and will likely result in well balanced final decisions.

      I honestly don’t remember a cabinet like this in my lifetime. Usually those spits are filled with political hacks for payback. Aside from Sessions there is none of that in this administration.

      I am bothered that most of the agency heads are holdovers or a placeholder from within the Obama administration ranks. The Senate has delayed appointments, but to my knowledge none have been submitted for agency heads and their deputies. I hope the same types of people end up as administrators for the various agencies, either outsiders or non-partisans from within the ranks of career civil service or recently retired ones.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    First MLB “knee” goes to Oakland ! Congrats 😛

  8. DeniseVB says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      As long as what they’re doing is anti-American and not praying, the NFL and Dems and the media are fine with that.

      • Myiq2xu™ says:

        Why is doing something unpatriotic always the default go-to move of the Left?

        • DeniseVB says:

          It wasn’t like that during the GWB war protest/peace march years, when dissent was still patriotic. My memories of DC and NYC were thousands of happy liberal idiots thinking just showing up would bring world peace and kumbaya in America. Media still f**ked up that coverage and called us nazi-commies by focusing on the provocateurs with their Bushitler signs and other weirdo stuff. Those marches drew a half million, changed nothing.

          I think we have a media problem, still. These “new” protesters are clearly, certified idiots. Oh yeah, we paid our own expenses, love of country was our ticket 🙂

          • lateblum says:

            I second all you just wrote. IIRC there were many, many professional posters done by the Socialist Party, MoveOn.org, and A.N.S.W.E.R. that were handed out at every protest in every city where I marched. MSM didn’t appear all that supportive at the time. I wonder “What Happened” . . .

          • DeniseVB says:

            Those groups were still actively infiltrating the Tea Party Rallies during Obama, til the ahole used his IRS to shut us down. The GOPe didn’t care, they were calling us “whacko birds” (h/t John McCain) anyhow.

        • 49erDweet says:

          If congress doesn’t take away their precious tax status I foresee a new congress after the next elections.

  9. Miranda says:

    The stuff about the ‘kneelers’ keeps making me really angry, so I took a break and learned the Magic Loop variety of knitting today. MUCH better than knitting on double-pointed needles.

    • cynic says:

      I have friends that swear by the Magic Loop. I’ve never tried them, but do prefer the circulars over the double-pointed.

      I wait til the cooler weather to take up my knitting again. Summer is for gardening. My poor arthritic hands hurt if I knit too much.

      • Miranda says:

        My hands bother me too, especially if I knit too long at one time. It’s one part mild arthritis and one part minor nerve damage from when I was bitten on the hand by a copperhead 3 years ago. I was gardening, then, too, so be careful where you reach!

        • DeniseVB says:

          Glad you’re ok. I never do yard work without my anti-venom/poison ivy gloves and sleeves, which pretty much rules out the summers here in sticky hot Tidewater. Then again, I’m so ready for condo living….on a beach….sigh 😉

        • lateblum says:

          OH no, Miranda!!! What a shock! What do you suppose saved you/your hand?
          I know nothing about snakes, except to fear being bitten by one. Glad you’re okay now.

          • Miranda says:

            I got to the hospital within 20 minutes of being bitten (mr.miranda had the pedal to the metal), and they gave me anti-venom. I’m sure that helped. I also kept it elevated they way they said, plus I was just lucky.

            Copperheads aren’t actually as poisonous as some. The big problem is swelling, which is why bites to the finger or hand are dangerous. You lose blood flow. The poison travels via the lymph nodes, so I had swelling all the way into my back, and my arm looked like a ham.

            I read where some guy had picked one up and was looking at it, and got bitten on the face. He didn’t make because his throat swelled up so much he couldn’t breathe.

        • cynic says:

          Yikes, bitten by a snake!! Don’t think I’ll complain by the tick bite/Lyme’s Disease! Don’t know if I would have the guts to garden again after that episode!

          • Miranda says:

            I’ve certainly reduced it. I was trying to have beds throughout the yard, and I wanted a meadow garden, vegetable garden, shade garden etc. I also did all the mowing/raking. Now, I have a yard service, raised beds built into my patio, and pots :). I’m all about the clear lines of sight.

    • elliesmom says:

      I love Magic Loop knitting. I learned how to do it before I tried 4 needle knitting, and there’s no way I would ever put my mittens, socks, or hats on anything but a circular needle. I’ve given most of my straight needles away.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    Yay, for this hero who rose above the politics today ❤ (Hope he doesn't get "fined" )

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  12. Myiq2xu™ says:

    It’s deja vu all over again.

    • 49erDweet says:

      “The coasts” have zero awareness of anything other than their personal super coolness. Which is totally awesome, if you ask them.

      • lateblum says:

        They also feel “disenfranchised” because their votes “didn’t count” in the election. They want to do away with the Senate, too because they “only get 2 senators – just like all the other states. I have (or maybe HAD) a friend who beautifully articulated the position that “Wyoming has 3 votes in the electoral college because of the way it’s set up”. As far as he’s concerned, Wyoming shouldn’t have more than 1vote and his home state of NY should have way more and their votes should count for more. When I said it was ridiculous and short sighted that the coasts should “have the final word” he left the table. I guess he felt disrespected on top of feeling disenfranchised.

  13. Dora says:

    I’m not watching, but I’m glad they were booed.

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    I’m watching STTOS reruns all day today.

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  18. DeniseVB says:

    Nice column by Geoff today.

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      • 49erDweet says:

        Progs are so politically dense they deny that DJT benefits from their kneeling. When the 2020 returns roll in they are gonna be sooooo surprised!!!!! They will never remember 2017 as the year the NFL gave T another term.

        • Lulu says:

          Purported brain damaged doofs kneel to whine and wheedle at most powerful man in the world because… feewings and Merica be mean to them with multimillion dollar contracts from tax-free sports league! So unfair. I want them to lay on the field next like possums. That’ll show Trump!

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  23. Somebody says:

    We’re all going out tonight to see comedian Brian Regan. We used to watch his DVD’s with my daughter during the dark days of cancer. My daughter used some of his jokes on the medical team, he has a routine about going to the hospital.

    When she finished treatment we bought the DVD with that routine for each of the doctors and her main nurses. It is titled “I walked on the moon”. We gave it them so they could be in on her jokes. I wrote a little Christmas message on his site thanking him for helping us through some tough times, even though he didn’t know it. His manager promptly called and gave us tickets to his upcoming show in JAX a couple months later.

    I had a nice chat with his manager and shared some stories. Anyway they sent us tickets and backstage passes. Brian Regan was so nice to our daughter and seemed to genuinely get a kick out her using his material, especially her calling the psychiatrist a fun sucker.

    Flash forward 9 years later and he’s in town again. The clinic has a special thing going on for the kids that includes dinner and VIP tickets with Brian Regan…….how sweet of him! They called last week and invited us and we jumped at the chance. This is sponsored by The Jay Fund, set up by Tom Coughlin.

    I wonder if he really remembers my daughter?

    By the by hired a puppy sitter, no show. So they are locked up in my bathroom for the night. Oh well I’m getting really good at cleaning floors!

    • mothy67 says:

      What a great story.

      • Somebody says:

        Thanks, great evening. What a super nice guy, apparently he provided the tickets complimentary for the kids and their families. He does a lot of that kind of stuff quietly. Dinner was at a cute little downtown bar and bistro around the corner. His warm up act was pretty good too.

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  26. The lurker says:

    Free speech for multimillionaire players. What about milo, etc, free speech?

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  29. CiscoKid says:

    I have a solution for this problem in Illinois.
    Just find something else to tax.
    “In one month, Illinois manufacturing sector lost all of the jobs it had gained in the last 12 months, marking one of the worst employment reports for the state’s lagging economy since the recession.

    A preliminary report released by the Illinois Department of Employment Security shows August saw 3,000 lost manufacturing jobs. This loss of employment is the worst month in Illinois since fall of 2009. The unemployment rate also rose to 5 percent.

    Overall, the state lost a net 3,700 jobs in August. Illinois has averaged 100 jobs lost per month since March.

    While some sectors gained, Illinois’ leisure and hospitality industry lost 9,900 jobs. Some job losses in that industry are common in the fall when tourism wanes. But IDES Spokesman Bob Gough says losing 3,000 manufacturing jobs is troubling.

    “The manufacturing sector has been a tough road to hoe for a number of years now,” he said. “But any way you slice it, the state’s economy is stuck in neutral, and that’s a kind way to put it.”
    Someone doesn’t know their idioms (you don’t have a “tough road to hoe.” That breaks tools. It’s a farming term – “tough row to hoe”). Maybe it was the reporter.”

    “In any event, manufacturing firms are still fleeing Illinois faster than jobs can be created, and the business climate (read “tax code”) is the main reason. Every single level of government is full of out-of-control spending and their only solution to a decreasing tax base is to soak those remaining until they, too, decide to leave. Death Spiral is the term often used, and it’s in full swing.”
    Tks. SCCcop.

  30. Venus E. Lee says:

    Welp Go Cowboys!

    • CiscoKid says:

      Here’s my real thoughts on this.
      You want to protest? Fine, but do it outside the stadium before and after the game.
      When I buy a ticket it’s a contract between me and the teams to watch a football game.
      To watch a game, nothing else.
      👋🏈 bye-bye.

      • Constance says:

        Exactly, If I buy a ticket then I expect entertainment of the kind I paid for I am not going to sit through your self-righteous tantrum. Paying for cable means I paid to see the game.

  31. Venus E. Lee says:

    http://datechguyblog.com/2017/09/24/its-a-trump-trap-and-the-nfl-nba-and-dems-walked-right-in/

    It’s a Trump Trap and the NFL, NBA and Dems Walked Right In

    Last year the NFL tried to spend an entire season pretending that the protests against the National Anthem were not hurting attendance while trying to appease players who decided they’d want to be social justice warriors of the pampered 1%.

    This season attendance and rating continue to drop as athletes decide to focus on protest rather than play and the athletes doubled down asking the NFL to dedicate a month to protest. [snip]

    This was a bombshell aimed directly at the blue collar white fan base that Roger Goodell would like to avoid, but alas for him a more media savvy person recognized that NFL base that is getting angry at pampered athletes dissing the country and law are upsetting his base too. [snip]

    Now by this time it should have been pretty obvious that the President is trolling the left here and hoping beyond hope that they choose to bite because he understand that to his base, particularly in state that the left needs if they want to win in 2020 can’t afford to upset those voters who decided to abandon them.

    So if they were smart they would have let it go.

    They Didn’t [snip]

    Because nothing is going to win over white working class voters than a bunch of rich athletes talking about how oppressed they are by the country that made them rich.

    The left doesn’t seem to get this or if they do, they are too afraid of getting any single part of their fragile coalition together to risk keeping silent, they don’t want to see a bunch of primaries where they are flanked on the left.

    What’s really ironic here is Trump is using the tactics of the left against them and playing by the same rules that they normally do or as Kurt Schlichter put it

    Follow
    Kurt Schlichter ✔ @KurtSchlichter
    I warned and warned and warned you people not to change the rules. But you had to. And you don’t seem to like it much now. Told ya.🤔🇺🇸

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    NASCAR understands its fan base.

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  36. mothy67 says:

    I remember thinking after Nov thinking politics would fade. I could go back to pre 2008.
    Nope. Now I sound like a Lannister(GoT) cursing the tv and youtube.

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  41. Dora says:

    This should keep the courts busy.

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  43. mothy67 says:

    Wonder how many idiots will think he’s Mexican and spout off about him supporting the racist Trump. His parents are from Spain.
    the guy is enrolled at CMU getting his masters
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Villanueva_(American_football)

  44. DandyTIger says:

    From Brad Torgersen FB post:

    So, a recap of today’s events:

    1) Many NFL players—butthurt at Donald J. Trump—conspicuously beclown themselves during the U.S. anthem at games all over the league. As is their constitutional right. But potentially in violation of the NFL’s own code of player conduct.

    2) Many NFL fans—tired of rich, pampered, out-of-touch people who are butthurt at Donald J. Trump—say, “That’s the last straw,” and voice their opinion that they’re giving up on, or boycotting, the league. As is their constitutional right. And in perfect consonance with a free market.

    3) Social Justice Zealots—who never liked the NFL anyway, and are not the customer base, but who love seeing people get fired for (mumble, isms, mumble)—cheer the beclowned NFL players, and also scream at the NFL fans, “Stop trying to take away those players’ rights!” Which no NFL fan has threatened to do. But since when have SJZs ever been consistent?

    4) The sane minds in charge of the NFL’s bottom line and marketing image, go get drunk. Because that’s what you do when your industry self-inflicts a PR disaster of significant magnitude.

    5) People who could not care less about sportsball, mock and laugh at everyone else.

    Did I miss anything?

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I have heard people rooting for the NFL to fail because so many of the fans voted for Trump and they assume Trump will lose all support and be deposed because the stupid clingers will not be able to deal losing their only reason for living.

    • Anthony says:

      After all the hoopla about #takeaknee, Trump gave voice to how the rest of us feel. Now we can change the monologue into a dialogue, which is really going to piss the SJW’s off (as well as one shitty quarterback who started the whole thing 😁 ).

      Bottom line: standing for the national anthem is not racist. Screw them all.

  45. Mt.Laurel says:

    I am trying to work at home tomorrow because I have no meetings and I really do not feel I want to listen to all the crap from people.

    It does make me think – what if someone had said they did not want to meet Obama at the WH – what would their reaction have been? GW? Clinton? Carter? Regan? Because as I see it – this is one of those times when you suck up your personal feelings show respect for your country and its citizens. If you cannot be that mature about it you stay home sick and keep your mouth shut other than saying how sorry your are that you cannot attend.

  46. DandyTIger says:

    Just occurred to me, all those expensive stadiums are usually taxpayer funded to bring or keep a team. So those players are protesting in our stadiums. Can we have our money back?

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Great minds think alike. We have funded the Camden Yards (baseball), the new Redskins stadium when the deserted DC for Maryland and then The Raven stadium when Baltimore whined enough to get a team to replace the Colts that left town in the silence of the dark of night. I admit I always thought that timing of the move was poetic justice given the on going quibbles over which city has the greats claim to Poe.

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  48. Lulu says:

    The stupid Pittsburg coach didn’t want his Army Ranger/football player to stand during the national anthem. http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/24/steelers-coach-didnt-want-army-vet-to-stand-for-anthem-video/ “Villanueva, a former Army Ranger who served three tours in Afghanistan, was the only Steelers player to stand for the anthem. While Villanueva stood in the tunnel, hand over his heart, the rest of the team remained in the locker room in protest of President Trump’s comments that players who kneel during the national anthem should be fired.”
    “Tomlin said in a post-game press conference that he was looking for “100 percent participation” in whatever course of action the team took during the national anthem.” “When asked by a reporter about Villanueva coming out for the anthem, Tomlin said, “Like I said, I was looking for 100 percent participation, we were gonna be respectful of our football team.”

    WTF? Is this shithead for real? He was pressuring a military officer (non active currently to play football for a while) to take HIS side in a hyped up fake race issue? Did the team vote? To please this moron coach? And then dumb-ass goes on media petulant and whiny to complain about it being decisive (he is too stupid to enunciate it) or some shit. I guess he didn’t read the reaction to Villanueva before he was whining his racist social justice crap and acting butthurt. Fool. Villanueva defied you for good reason you ass.

    • Lulu says:

      Earlier in the day this coach (and maybe the owners) decided the players would not stand for the anthem. ““We’re not going to play politics,” Tomlin said. “We’re football players, we’re football coaches. We’re not participating in the anthem today. Not to be disrespectful to the anthem, but to remove ourselves from this circumstance. People shouldn’t have to choose. If a guy wants to go about his normal business and participate in the anthem, he shouldn’t have to be forced to choose sides. If a guy feels the need to do something, he shouldn’t be separated from his teammate who chooses not to. So we’re not participating today. That’s our decision. We’re going to be 100 percent. We came here to play a football game. That’s our intent.” Villanueva defied him and showed that it was imposed by the coach thus coach mad. “We’re not participating in the anthem today.” because he didn’t want his players to do so or have a choice. It blew up in his face.

      • Lulu says:

        And dumbo Pittsburg coach suggested for the idiot sports writers as he declared his team prior to the game as not “standing”: “Among the Steelers players staying in the locker room will be left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, who served three tours of duty in Afghanistan.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/24/mike-tomlin-were-not-participating-in-the-anthem-today/
        This is evidence that the locker room avoidance technique was not discussed with the players. Or not all of them anyway. Coach needs some more dialogue.

        • mothy67 says:

          My love affair with the Steelers began to fade back in 2008 when the organization unabashedly endorsed whats its face and then went hardcore for ocare. Owner got an ambassadorship to Ireland. Even before that the county voted resoundingly against a tax for new stadiums. Elected pukes got creative and built them anyhow with tax payer funding. I owned a bar for a season. Yes, people here bleed black and gold, but in these broke assed towns everybody knows somebody who has served. Kids not bound for college have little other choice. Trump has given hope to broken places. The nfl/dnc seriously underestimates the fans. Game time was a respite. Those who could ill afford a night out scraped it together and cheered. Not unconditionally. This can be a yuuge opportunity for the rethugs to take out Casey. Will they?

  49. Lulu says:

    Trump successfully introduces travel ban while media and country chases squirrels. LOL. Here’s for hoping that Mueller is shit-canned during a Super Bowl riot.

  50. Dora says:

    It looks like Greg Gutfeld has the answer. Go bowling instead! 🙂

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    Greg Gutfeld Offers Up Proposal To Replace The NFL With Bowling

    Greg Gutfeld is as good a Twitter follow as you will find.

    It won’t surprise you hear that he had something to say about the cowardly NFL players who have decided to insult our flag to prove a disingenuous point about police brutality.

    He proposed an interesting way that we can replace the NFL.

    https://www.youngcons.com/greg-gutfeld-offers-up-proposal-to-replace-the-nfl-with-bowling/

  51. Dora says:

    Goodness! I’d hate to be caught in the middle of that!

  52. elliesmom says:

    Anecdote is not data, but is a data point. We took our house guests to a local sports bar to watch the game yesterday. Since Elliesdad and I aren’t really fans, we chose the place with the most comfortable seating. This place is usually packed on a Sunday afternoon, but we arrived during the second quarter and got the best seats in the house. Before every play my friends yelled, “Take the knee! Take the knee!” After the game was over, we moved down the street to a local tavern. After a close game like that, the folks in the bar area would usually be rehashing every play, but all of the TVs were off, and the folks were talking about other things. We’re regulars there, and the waitress serves us often. When I asked her why the TVs were off, she said after the Pats knelt for the anthem, the bar patrons took a vote, and it was unanimous to turn the TV off. My friends were shocked. Half of the folks at the bar were in Pats’ shirts. Ann Althouse has a poll up asking how the fans would feel if the owners forced players to stand. At the point I don’t think it matters. The damage has already been done.

    • Lulu says:

      My non-political hubby watches sports. In the past it was when he had time and to “rest” or zone out from thinking. He has always preferred college sports, is a University of Texas superfan, but liked several pro teams and has even gone to Jets and Giants games with our son in NYC over the past few years. He watched a bunch of college games and no pro games yesterday. He did not say a word. He piddled around in the garage, took a walk around the yard with my dog to her great joy, read, then took a nap, got up and said “Let’s go eat seafood.” I’m not asking him nothing. Not a word. He can work this out himself but I can tell he is deeply disturbed by the league, the owners, the coaches and the players actions. He is not a Trump fanboy nor any politician so that excuse is not washing with him. I suspect it is over non-professionalism. They have a job, are compensated hugely and not doing what they are paid to do so they should quit and go be “activists”.

      • dm says:

        My husband is in total agreement with Trump on the players as being completely disrespectful to the fans, the country, the military, etc. However, it would literally take an act of God for him to NOT watch. We don’t go to any professional sports (who can afford that???), we don’t have any special sports package on TV, but he was front and center yesterday morning for the big game in London. I don’t watch sports – pretty boring for the most part IMO. But I did relish the Ravens humiliating loss…I could picture them all kneeling together, arms locked, crying their little baby eyes out in the locker room after the game…that (imaginary) visual perked me up for the rest of the day.

  53. Dora says:

  54. Anthony says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politics/nfl-stevie-wonder-kneels-trnd/index.html

    Tha’ts because the opening lyric says “Oh say can you SEE” and he can’t lmao #hater

    • Lulu says:

      The “white” media has hi-jacked the “protests” against police brutality, racism, etc to an anti-Trump message. “The opening paragraph in the Los Angeles Times story on the protests said they were about “the relentless vortex of controversy that surrounds President Trump”. It started before Trump was elected and was a BLM mish-mash of gripes by Kaepenick who couldn’t even explain what he was protesting except in radical bromides. So smart media took it over from the lessers on the old plantation.

      • Lulu says:

        Since the white media hijacked the messaging they think it hurts Trump. But since they are in a NY/DC/LA bubble they have no idea but rather only assumptions since they don’t seem to have message tested anything. Screaming essentially RACIST at your customers to pet the egos of your workers and PR/media is not a brilliant business model. Where is your cash flow going to come from to pay everybody if you cut your customer base. Remember Target?

        • Lulu says:

          Like Scott Adams described, the NFL has been on a “brain damaged” football player kick. Why are owners and media listening to brain damaged players who have to have their message taken over and changed into anti-Trump instead of BLM stuff for brain damaged players who get arrested a lot. Those millionaire players are harassed by the police! Yeah, no. The narrative is completely screwy and no one has thought this out.

          • Lulu says:

            Like Scott Adams described, the NFL has been on a “brain damaged” football player kick. Why are owners and media listening to brain damaged players who have to have their message taken over and changed into anti-Trump instead of BLM stuff for brain damaged players who get arrested a lot. Those millionaire players are harassed by the police! Yeah, no. The narrative is completely screwy and no one has thought this out.

            Imagine you schedule a time to go see a play with a friend and give them the money for a ticket. You get there and are told no play, we’re going to see a film on Save the Squid! You argue that is not what I gave you 450 bucks for. I gave you a bunch of money to see Cumberbatch in Ibsen. A documentary movie ticket is like 10 dollars. Besides I eat calamari. Your friend says they are doing what is moral, right and good for you. Because you are an evil, bad, anti-nature and sea creature person. And this time you scheduled for entertainment and enjoyment is THEIR time not yours. They are going to MAKE you do it and LIKE it. Or else name calling.

  55. blowme0bama says:

    https://nypost.com/2017/09/24/suspected-shooter-in-deadly-church-attack-identified/

    Wonder why this isn’t a national outrage? Sudanese immigrant opens fire in Church killing 1, wounding 7.

    • Lulu says:

      It was a hick fundy church. Out in the boonies so they must have deserved it. /s
      That very young man with the concealed weapon permit might consider law enforcement as a career. He has mucho big balls to go after a crazy hopped up weightlifter. He would make a fine state trooper.

  56. mothy67 says:

    Bwahahaha

  57. Dora says:

    I can just imagine the loonies coming in by the busloads to protest the statue. Please leave it where it is.

    ===

    Italian-Americans want any Columbus statues removed to come to LI town

    Oyster Bay Town Supervisor Joseph Saladino says if ‘radical mayors make the foolish decision’ to take down statues of Christopher Columbus, they will have a new home in Massapequa.

    http://abc7ny.com/italian-americans-want-columbus-statues-removed-to-come-to-li-town/2451130/

  58. helenk3 says:

    Now here’s a great idea! To all NFL fans…Call for a National boycott of the NFL for Sunday November 12th, Veterans Day Weekend. Boycott all football telecast, all fans, all ticket holders, stay away from attending any games, let them play to empty stadiums. Pass this post along to all your friends and family. Honor our military, some of whom come home with the American Flag draped over their coffin. Continue with the weekly boycott of televised games.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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