Monday Open Thread

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  1. DeniseVB says:

  2. DeniseVB says:

    ICYMI……shouting “something, something white supremacy” at a black woman? The quality of these “protesters” is going down. Idiots.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Yep, ANTIFA are mostly white fascists thugs. Brown shirts. Or maybe Mussolini’s black shirts. And they are comfortable being all white protesting a black woman. Amazing.

      • DeniseVB says:

        The Brown and Black Shirts had a clear leader, who is Antifa’s? Not Soros, his just the money guy, but someone sinister, I keep thinking from Obama’s org.

      • lateblum says:

        “… they are comfortable being all white protesting a black woman”

        shouting f*ck white supremacy.
        They truly are mental midgets. My apologies to midgets.

        • swanspirit says:

          My response was similar. How do these people get to be so stupid? It’s mind boggling. They are so many levels and layers of stupid. But they are too mean to be pitied.

        • DeniseVB says:

          We protested actual policies, wars and government overspending, not people, ok, the President was always at fault maybe. Not sure what these clueless ninny-babies are mad about? Still waiting for what OWS was so “angry” about. BLM hates cops and wants them dead ? Antifa just seems to be the same, they’re the fascists though, so I guess they should really be punching themselves in the face. Obama built that. Community Organizer my ass. It’s proved nothing good since 2009.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Then again, for good reason. She and other black and hispanic conservatives or #walkaway people are their biggest threat.

      • mothy2017 says:

        Aren’t they just exposing her to a larger audience and proving the point that dims have no use for conservative minority voices? She got loads of free promotion because of twitter timeout.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Just recently, a DACA recipient walked away. Trump wants to give them a path to citizenship, the Dems blocked it because they’d lose those votes forever, lol !

    • Constance says:

      I fell like ANTIFA is just a bunch of self righteous Progressives Democrats.

    • Anthony says:

      Antifa is the child of Soros’ MoveOn .org and Obama’s OFA. Funding for all 3 comes out of the same pocket.

  3. DeniseVB says:

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Why, I just posted the “Palestine and Open Borders” photo in the Kamalalalala thread downstairs. Cory does have half a brain 😛

    • elliesmom says:

      What happened to the Corey Booker who ran into burning buildings to save people? Or was that fake news?

      • mothy2017 says:

        What happened to the booker that was kinda hot. He looks like hell.

        • Island Girl says:

          Especially when he fake cries and yells like a drama bitch, very unprofessional at minimum.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Or riding along with the police to help people stuck in blizzards ? I liked that Cory. I followed him when he was Newark’s Mayor, wonder what happened to him? People have mentioned his net worth has gone up 5.5 million since he became a Senator. He’s officially a Swamp Critter now.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Politics seems to be in the water in swampland and I have worked/volunteered with a several dozen people who have have decided to enter politics. One elected, eventually, and to varying degrees, the individual appears to disappear into the hive.

        Local seats seem to keep closest to their own self as long as they do not decide to make politics their career path/become lifers and maintain other ties to the community. Those who move to/first run for state and national seats you see far more drastic changes. Especially as they get reelected. Cars and homes get fancier and more expensive. Many buy vacay homes. They are not paid all that much – so the funds have to come from somewhere and it makes one ponder some not so nice thoughts.

        There are those that retain more independent thought – and a spirit of cooperations. Often they are those that have/had their own business and put in a lot of personal sweat equity to build/maintain and are used to not bucking under to pressure that they instinctively know is going against rational thought.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Oops, he accidentally exposed what pretty much all remaining Dems want: an end to Israel. Like we didn’t already know that.

  5. mothy2017 says:

    Watched A Quiet Place last night. Reminded me of those b horror films that they ran here back when I was akid on late night tv. Not gratuitous. Clever twist on very tired themes.

  6. elliesmom says:

    Chores done for the day except mowing, but we’re under a heat advisory. I think I’ll take Ellie for a swim, and then watch last night’s episode of “Sharp Things”.

    • mothy2017 says:

      Is Sharp Things good? I was thinking about doing a month of HBO. Succession and Westworld I think both have complete seasons too.

      • elliesmom says:

        I sat down to binge it yesterday thinking the whole season was already there. It’s now at 5/8. It’s kind of dark, but the story is good. I usually see Adams in lighter roles, but she’s handling this one pretty well. My favorite movie of hers is “Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day”, but that’s mostly because of Frances McDormand. Elliesdad isn’t a big romcom fan, but he’ll sit through some of Amy Adams’. He’s not watching “Sharp Objects” with me, though. Not a good week for dark for him.

      • Venus E. Lee says:

        Sharp Objects is dark & disturbing — nothing is as it seems & no one is going to have a happy ending in that one. But it is well acted & well done. Main character (Adams) is a ‘cutter’ with suicidal tendencies & mommy issues. Patricia Clarkson –always great– is the proper society lady with a sinister undertones. Although I can’t say I ‘like’ it because it’s dark/disturbing, it sucks you in & the hour flies by.

        Succession, OTOH, sucks. Every character is a horrid, greedy asshole. I stopped watching after 4 episodes because it was a chore to watch.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I love the Happy Working Song. (Don’t show it to Anthony 😉 )

      • lateblum says:

        I originally saw this movie in the theater because I had promised dd2 I’d take her. I was paisley protesting having to see this movie because it began with animation an$ I’m not a big animated movie person. But I loved it and every time it’s on tv, and I can do it, I watch it again. I ❣️the music, the cast, and the story. I’m such a sucker for happy endings…..

      • Anthony says:

        I love seeing all of those fey little magical woodland creatures… ❤️😂🤣

        • elliesmom says:

          Crash is more likely to clean up after herself if she has Disney princesses and woodland creatures to sing along as she works. She thinks Mary Poppins is mean, though.

          • Anthony says:

            I’m with Crash lol. I always thought Mary Poppins was a bit of a bully.

            I do a pretty good job of keeping things tidy, but after buying a stove on a whim, I then decided to rip up the kitchen floor and install a new one (polished concrete – cool as hell 😎). And then, a new backsplash (stainless steel subway tiles). And what the hell – might as well paint the place too. God, what a mess….

          • DeniseVB says:

            Well, maybe you can just open a window and yoodle-whoodle-who and all your little helpers will magically appear too help. Sounds like a fun project! 😀

          • DeniseVB says:

            Beautiful, thanks for sharing !

          • Anthony says:

            Scary that I did it myself from scratch. YouTube University rocks lmao

          • Constance says:

            Very nice looking kitchen! I’m just starting on a kitchen remodel plan. Today I ripped up what I had so far but at least I’m figuring out what I don’t want. I really like your white cabinets. I’ve got wood everywhere and need the white cabinets for relief.

    • Anthony says:

      God, she’s nuts. Trying to pass herself as another all-knowing and wise Latina. Know who else did that? My niece, the day she bought her first training bra. Suddenly, she was an expert on brassiere construction, lecturing her mom, a tiny little woman with a full D, for not giving up her suspension bridge bras in favor of a sports bra. Once she herself hit a C, her tune changed to a more respectful and humble tone. Nothing like a little back pain to facilitate humility.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Speaking of training bras, Obama hasn’t endorsed Ocasio-Cortez and her supporters are mad (he’s endorsed 81 candidates so far). Why do I get the feeling he’ll attend an event right before election day so he’ll whip up some news for himself? She’s a BFD in NYC and he likes that kind of attention.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Good question.

  8. foxyladi14 says:


    Good guy with gun stops massacre at a FL back-to-school event by taking out potential mass shooter.

    — John Cardillo (@johncardillo) August 6, 2018

  9. SHV says:

    Saw Dora’s “Today in History” re: Enola Gay
    She is on display at the Air and Space museum at/near Dulles airport. Worth a look if in the DC area.
    FWIW, ~4,000 B-29s were built, ~20-25 survive and 2 are airworthy, “FiFi” and “Doc”. The B-29 project was the single most expensive project of WWII, costing $2.5-3 billion (~$45 billion today’s dollars) and costing ~$1-1.5 billion more than A-bomb project.

    • SHV says:

      “She is on display…”
      Enola Gay not Dora!! :>)

      • Dora says:

        Glad you cleared that up. I was wondering what I should wear. 🙂

        I did see the Enola Gay on display at the Air & Space Museum. Several years ago. There was a big protest at the time about showing it, so I’m glad to know it is still there.

        • SHV says:

          I first visited shortly after she was restored and put on display. There were several large groups of Japanese tourists, mostly high school/college age surrounding the plane. They all looked confused and were trying to read the display signs. I have no idea what they were thinking but the group dynamics were interesting. IIRC, minimal WWII history is taught in Japanese schools and what is taught is presented within the frame work of “Japan and Japanese people victims and forced into war”.

      • Anthony says:

        Shit. I almost booked a flight to go see our dear Dora.

        • Dora says:

          You’re so funny. 🙂

          You would have been disappointed, so I’m glad you saved your money.

          • Anthony says:

            I doubt I’d be disappointed, Dora. I really appreciate you being here – can always count on you to be the voice of reason, and also post killer links to really pertinent issues.

    • John Denney says:

      One of those interviewed by Studs Terkel for his Pulitzer prize winning book, “The Good War”, was the pilot who dropped The Bomb from the Enola Gay. Great book!

  10. SHV says:

    Another today in history, then I mow the grass.
    Alexander Fleming born today 1881…recognized the Staph. killing ability of Penicillin mold in 1928.

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  12. Dora says:

    I hope this is not fake news!

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  14. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Jake the Fake has lots of people convinced he is a good guy.

    • mothy2017 says:

      I don’t think fox should report on unverified or even verified accounts of a rival orgs inter office squabbles. Leave it for the tabloids. Seems petty. There is enough to go after in their reporting. Just sayin.

      • Myiq2xu™ says:

        They’re all tabloids now.

        • mothy2017 says:

          I was never a fox fan. I like Tucker, but have issues. My favorite for watching an issue discussed was Greta, but she was beyond tabloid with things like casey anthony. Those first few months I thought meagain was going to be the real thing. Jury is out on Ingraham. Hannity is Hannity. I can only do a half hour a day of any of them. Some back Trump, but there is soooo much rino involved. Wallace, brett and on and on.

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  15. swanspirit says:

    Came across this following Charles Glasses on Facebook. Sarah Jeong, the racist, is evidently also a a combat of another color as well. She attacked a Chinese national girl, a techie, who because she is in China and very restricted, has limited resources.
    View at

  16. lateblum says:

    It’s been a record disaster weekend and week’s beginning. First my 2yo dryer stopped working, then my bedroom AC unit broke during the 95 degee w/HIGH humidity Sunday and lastly, my cell went bust (again) this morning while trying to speak about the dryer with the appliance service dept. It’s gonna be a 60 mile round trip to take care of much of this mess. It was a hot/humid night and I got 2 hours sleep. Now I’m a mess.
    Gotta go……..
    Have a great day.

    • DeniseVB says:

      You have back up fans? Ceiling fans? OMG, I hate heat and humidity, I feel your pain. Hope things get better as the week goes by ❤

      • lateblum says:

        Thanks. I just got home. I was able to resolve the dryer issue. But at least it’s one thing I no longer need to fret over. The phone ppl had me do a “hard reboot” after they sent new signals to the phone. So far so good. The AC issue still really, really sucks. I learned from the yuuuge appliance store in the area that they no longer make small room ACs that will fit in my windows. The ACs are too small by 2 inches! 🤬

      • lateblum says:

        Oh, yes I have fans. But they were worthless last night. Maybe tonight they’ll do a better job. It isn’t supposed to be anywhere near as hot/humid as last night. Praise the Lord.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I hear you. The humidity has been so high – it just seeps inside. We just lost power at the office for the third time today and this time it is not coming back on.

      I am in a top floor condo and hot air rises – especially when the neighbors below are out of town. Two things I found that help after trying a lot of options especially with my elderly mother:

      A dehumidifier.
      I bought a 30 pint unit when Mom was living with me as her breathing required a more consistent humidity. I just use the built in bucker (no hose required)and it keeps the humidity at bay even on days when it is not warm enough for the air to cycle on and off . Also helps when air is running because it takes part of the load off the AC. It does put out some warm air – but I position so that is blown to an area when I do not sit/work. The lower humidity makes it more comfortable at a higher temp (Mom was always cold the last couple years – so keeping humidity balanced helped me cope as well with higher temps). I could not afford the bill to have ac running all the time – so being able to keep the humidity down helps a lot to feel more comfortable. I use the portable ac in the bedroom after the sun moves to the other side of the building. The direct sun in the morning is warm even with the ac and thermal drapes. Without the drapes it is unbearable.

      I found this model works well for circulating air without the annoyance of a traditional oscillating fan (when the vision goes in the elderly the back and forth may startle them). I put two on opposite sides of the living room or bedroom to help move the air. I just use the oscillation (the grill rotates rather than the entire fan) and you get a nice breeze effect – similar to that of a ceiling fan. I do not bother with the fancier settings. Mom really liked them as I could keep her comfortable and the air did not stagnate.–power-fan-with-rotating-grill/HAPF624R-UC.html#

      • lateblum says:

        I bow to your expertise! Really, thank you for the link to the Holmes fan. Judging from the sounds of it, I’m gonna have to get at least one. Right this moment I have a portable AC in the living room (the Ac was on when I walked in as I had set the timer before I left). Also a fan going. The bedroom has a window fan as the AC broke yesterday. The dining room where I am writing away, has another portable AC and a fan blowing the cool air around. And the window AC in the kitchen is working. The box fan on the floor is blowing the cooled air into the back bedroom. Maybe tonight will be better. It isn’t as hot as it was yesterday so, we’ll see.
        Thank you for sharing your strategies. And for the link to Holmes fans…

      • lateblum says:

        You are so right about the humidity seeping into everything! It seems everything I touch is damp here.
        I sure do hope your AC is repaired soon. It must be hell to have to work in the heat and moist air. But then to have to go back to a top floor condo with all the heat sounds dreadful. I know the dehumidifier can be helpful, but there is really minimal air flow here due to the floor plan as well as the window placements. Mine puts out so much hot air that I decided a cpl weeks ago to ditch it up here and to use it in the basement.

        • Somebody says:

          Leslie, I don’t know if this helps but when my son’s heat pump went out we bought him a small window unit. It has accordion type stuff around it to fit a variety of sizes of windows. We got it at Target, Haier is the brand.

          That little thing can pump out some cold air. My son’s house is almost 3,000 square feet, part of that is a bonus over the garage with separate A/C unit. The little window unit damn near cooled his entire downstairs using some box fans and the air handler for the HVAC to circulate. The downstairs is over 2,000 square feet. The bathrooms were stuffy, but the bedrooms were OK, the living areas and kitchen were very comfortable. All from 1 little unit.

          Also for you and My Laurel, if you can put window film in your windows. The kind that blocks heat and UV……HUGE difference, but you may prefer the solar heat in winter. Son used some, we put it in garage/man cave and the dining room window. OMG, unreal how much of a difference it makes.

          • lateblum says:

            Thanks Somebody. Those little window units with the accordion pleated side wings are what I have – the broken one in the bedroom. It has become impossible to find one with wings that expand to fit the opening I have to fill. 😢 I love the idea of the film on the windows. We used them in our first house as “newly weds”. It was very effective. Thanks for reminding me.
            BTW, I went to 2 different Targets today looking for Haier AC. No luck there. Will keep looking though. I think the neighborhood Ace Hardware might have the window film. Thanks!

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            Window film is not permitted. I have liners and thermal as you have to have white/off white window treatments. Once the trees fill in the bedroom and dining room are not bad and the living room faces north but the kitchen is still toasty on sunny days.

            Window units are much less expensive and more efficient but we cannot us even if our ac dies. Many condos are that way because of the potential damage to the structure and insurance liability. But right in my development and many other newer ones town homes and single family are also not permitted to use window units because of aesthetics 😖

        • Jadzia says:

          I am desperately trying to figure out a humidity solution for the cave inside our house–it’s a huge area, not finished, perfect for storage. But I can’t put ANYTHING in there that has any paper, fabric, or electronic parts because it will end up (a) wet and (b) having that “cave” smell that is so charming when you’re on vacation and buying wine but not so much when you’re putting on your winter coat for the first time of the season.

          • lateblum says:

            Sounds like a problem I would run into… As it is, my basement storage space is a victim of moisture and cold. I’m trying to clear up whatever extra yippee-crap I have.
            I found some storage bins at Target that are sealed against moisture. They have a foam-ish strip that wraps around the perimeter on the top and the lid closes on top of the sealer and latches in place. I bought one bin for my papers. They come in various sizes, and the one I selected was deep and rectangular. I don’t know how well this could work out. They’re just plastic bins and I noticed several of the ones on the shelf at the store were cracked and broken. Also, they are fromTarget. So, how really good can they be?
            I hate to ask, but are there storage units to rent there? They claim to be temperature and humidity “controlled”. We’ve had to do that for things that belong to one of my kids. Best of luck. Bon chance (?)

          • Jadzia says:

            Ooh, that’s a good idea! We have tons of home-improvement type stores here, perhaps I can find something that seals better than the crap from Ikea. There are storage facilities, but we really do not have enough extra stuff (we immigrated here with pretty much nothing) to justify it — I’m talking just winter coats and some camping equipment.

          • lateblum says:

            Good luck! I hope you find something that works.

          • Somebody says:

            Jadzia, I left you a detailed reply to this in the next thread (Generic Open Thread). I was afraid if I replied here with a new thread up it would get lost.

  17. mothy2017 says:

    Edna Garrett died. In real life Charlotte Rae. 92.
    The Facts of Life, for good or bad, changed tween tv. They dealt with booze, drugs, sex, divorce. I was a fan. To my knowledge it was the first sitcom targeted towards kids in that manner. Was it a mistake? These girls only had one parental figure. The real parents were horribly flawed. The matriarch of the big institution taught them life lessons. I think the lessons were affirming, but it subtly preached against the familial authority. Most people now let schools teach a lot of things besides the three R’s. My hooligan has told me what she has been informed by teachers with regards to gender. Huh. Wait. What? How is this being instructed? We get all kinds of lessons about diversity in homework and local government. Not a role I agree with. Today everything on the formally ABC Family now Freeform is cut from that cloth. Teen shows which appeal to in reality preteens pipe out SJW messages on everything. Pup is going to be 12 all of the shows marketed to her age group are highly sexualized. On Riverdale the main gay character cruises the woods.
    Sure I can block everything, but her friends have netflix on their phones. Big rage among the very young a fews back was Vampire Diaries/Twilight. Men hundreds of years old having sex with mid teen girls. At least Twilight waited for after Bella graduated. I might sound prudish but I think its gone too far. I liked the JLo produced show about the gay mothers on ABC Family at first. Spacing on name. The Fosters but then it seemed to just go more and more into too much.
    Not sure if this makes sense, but I think some of those late 70’s early 80’s do gooder tv shows have left a legacy ofva muddled message. Way off base but in my tiny mind I see the propaganda in children’s tv defenders not unlike conservatives that think Ayn Rand’s Howard Roarke is a model. He was an orphan, no obligation to anyone. He rapes. I love The Fountainhead much more than Atlas Shrugged.
    All that being said I loved The Facts of Life. Thought it taught great little lessons, but I think it started this tv trend of kids knowing more than parents.

    • Miranda says:

      Smart-ass kids have been played for laughs on TV since at least the 70’s. The SJW stuff is annoying, but it’s the prevailing artsy culture right now. That and transgender is how you prove you’re edgy.

      As for the sex and drugs, whenever people got upset about Twilight, I always pointed out that 80’s kids had Flowers in the Attic, and John Saul. We made it.

      • mothy2017 says:

        Since the 70’s is my point. I think Facts of Life started in late 70’s. I think it was a depiction of parents being idiots and the “state” doing a better job. I have probably watched every episode of FoL. Lots of issues were handled back then I think in a meaningful manner for the time. Divorce, sex, drugs. It was not the parent that guided children through the waters it was the state. Thevstate does a better job. I grew up abc after school specials.
        Twilight I found to be an interesting homage to Wuthering Heights. The Vampire Daries had a hundred year old man dating a young high schooler. That doesn’t cross a line? He doesn’t look old so it is okay? Pretty Little Liars and Riverdale both featured teachers having sexual relationships with teenagers. . One of the leads in Pretty Little Liars ends up marrying her teacher???????
        I am not as alarmed as I think most teen parents should be because I watch these shows before she can. I talk to my brat. 13 Reasons Why and The End of the F**cking World are the rage in 6th fucking grade.
        Description for The End of the F**cking World fom wiki

        James is a 17-year-old who believes he is a psychopath. He kills animals as a hobby, but grows bored of the practice. He decides he wants to try killing a human. He settles on Alyssa, a mouthy, rebellious 17-year-old classmate with issues of her own. She proposes they run away together, hoping for an adventure away from her turbulent home-life, and James agrees with the intention of finding an opportunity to kill her. They embark on a road trip across England, and begin to develop a relationship after a series of mishaps.

        This is marketed to teens and younger. It is praised.
        13 Reasons Why

        In season one, seventeen year old Clay Jensen returns home from school one day to find a mysterious box on his porch. Inside he discovers seven cassette tapes recorded by Hannah Baker, his deceased classmate and unrequited love, who committed suicide two weeks earlier. On the tapes, Hannah unfolds an intensely emotional audio diary, detailing why she decided to end her life. It appears each person who receives this package of old-style tapes is fundamentally related to why she killed herself. Clay is not the first to receive the tapes, but there is implied detail as to how he should pass the tapes on after hearing them. There appears to be an order to distribution of the tapes, with an additional copy held by an overseer should the plan go awry. Each tape recording refers to a different person involved in Hannah’s life contributing to a reason for her suicide. The tapes refer to both friends and enemies.

        My monster is not yet 12. They all have smart phones. I cannot block all media. These shows in my opinion are marketed to her age group.

      • mothy2017 says:

        There was no sex in Twilight until after graduation. Maybe I’m wrong but I think TV version, knockoff, had high school kids being active.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Like Lucy, Charlotte Rae will live forever in reruns 🙂 R.I.P.

  18. Dora says:

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    • Anthony says:

      They’re just getting themselves used to saying “the wall”. Gonna be a reality soon, and they know it.

      • Island Girl says:

        Just another brick in the wall, these people are so disturbing. Read one super smart blog today saying the noose is tightening on PDT. LOL 😂 I LOVE your kitchen!

        • Anthony says:

          TBH, when I was researching polished concrete floors, I googled my cabinet model numbers with ‘polished concrete floors’ and found that pic. It is an EXACT replica of my kitchen, with 2 exceptions: I have a stainless steel stove instead of a counter cooktop (coming next week) and my walls are charcoal rather than the light gray in the pic.

          I freaked out because it’s the EXACT layout, size etc of my kitchen, right down to the portable police emergency light in the corner of the countertop (the red blob in the pic). I’m kinda weird about pics of my home posted on line, but when I saw that pic I got a little paranoid because with the exceptions I mentioned above, its like someone broke into my apt and took that pic. The floor was a lot of work, but it looks as good or better than the pic I posted

          • Island Girl says:

            Yeah well I am still jealous about it, I would only see a replica of my kitchen in aTiger Beat magazine LMAO hopefully our hurricane watch will come to fruition tomorrow and we can update. J/K I actually don’t GAF as long as I can eat and drink there, Cheers bud

    • mothy2017 says:

      I think you, Klown, need to invent a term for “me thinks the lady doth protest too much” as it relates to TDS. Everytime they go hogglett wild about anything we can smell their guilt. Coordinated efforts by tech masters of the universe to silence infowars while crying President Trump is denying freedom of the press. They triple down when they are wrong and consistently accuse others of their crimes.

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  22. Myiq2xu™ says:

    The Cuomos are a wannabe dynasty.

    • Miranda says:

      I’d totally eat up dark mysteries of power if I could find any.

      • Myiq2xu™ says:

        Sounds like a cool breakfast cereal. It’s like a Lucky Charms for tweens and teens.

        Mom: “Would you like a bowl of Lucky Charms for breakfast?”
        Tween: “Lucky Charms are for kids. I want some Dark Mysteries of Power!”

    • SHV says:

      CTH is warming up for November:
      “Donald Trump’s supporters are angry“, or “uneducated”, or “unenlightened”, or (Fill_In_The_Blank). This was clear in the latest round of sunlight upon how officials within the United States Department of Justice and FBI leadership feel about a nation of citizens beneath their authority. Now the corporate media narrative controllers are fully engaged.

      The gaslighting is extreme as the same entities utilize their microphones in a brutal attempt to create a self fulfilling prophecy. In essence, what they are really trying to save is themselves. …”

      There’s a level of anger far deeper and more consequential than expressed rage or visible behavior, it’s called Cold Anger.”

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  23. elliesmom says:

    I just finished a book, and I’m poking around looking for my next read. I absolutely refuse to buy a book that costs more in its eBook version that it does in paperback. While I shake my head over the two costing the same, for a book I want to read, I might fork over that much money. But there’s no way I’m paying more, and then I won’t buy the paperback, either. I know the prices are often set by the author and the publisher so I’m not angry at the bookseller. What do they think they are accomplishing? It can’t be making more money because most of the paperbacks I do read pass through many hands. I gave away the contents of most of my bookcases when we down-sized. It’s much harder to give away an eBook.

    • votermom says:

      What did you read?

    • mothy2017 says:

      Have you read A Confederacy of Dunces?
      Love, love, love the book. Some people hate it. Really hate it.
      For me that, O’Neill and Miller plays, Bothers Karamozov, The Thorn Birds, Stephan King’s The Stand, Of Human Bondage and The Bone People are what I’d want on a desert island without wifi.

      • lateblum says:

        I’m reading Charles Kruthammer’s book called “Things that Matter”. It’s a compilation of his columns and some lectures he gave. I am loving it. The first essay/column is a tribute and memoir of sorts. It’s simply beautiful.

    • Venus E. Lee says:

      If you’re looking for non-fiction, The Six Wives of Henry the Eighth by Alison Weir is a great read. All six women are fascinating. It’s one of my favorites & Weir, a serious historian, also is able to write in a story-telling way.
      On Amazon, the Kindle version is almost $2 cheaper than the paperback ($8.69 v. $10.54)

      • SHV says:

        Great book! Also read her Elizebeth I. Just saw on Amazon that she is doing a series of novels on the six Tudor Queens. Anyone read these?

        • Venus E. Lee says:

          I read her Elizabeth I, Henry VIII & his Court, Mary, Queen of Scots, The Fall of Anne Boylen, Eleanor of Aquitaine & The Princes in the Tower.

          I love her work. Next up (when I get some time) I’m reading ‘Mary Boylen, the Great and Infamous Whore’

          • Dora says:

            I read all of those too. I love that time in history and I love the way she writes about it.

            I’m not sure about her series of novels though. Those would probably be classified as Historical Fiction, which is alright, but not the real thing.

          • Venus E. Lee says:

            Yes those are historical fiction. I haven’t read of those by her, but I’ve read Phillipia Gregory (sp?). They’re ok, if that’s what you’re in the mood for. But I prefer the non-fiction.

          • Lulu says:

            Isabella, She-Wolf of France is good too. I read the biography of her boyfriend, Roger Mortimer, after that book. She was a great figure of history and made a great king out of her son Edward III.

      • Miranda says:

        I like Antonia Fraser’s biographies. She did great ones of Mary Stuart and Marie Antoinette.

        • Lulu says:

          The Weaker Vessel by Fraser is one of my favorites although it is getting old now. Also Warrior Queens. I read these in the ’80’s. My daughter read them in high school when she was bored one summer and was facinated by them.

    • elliesmom says:

      I’m looking for something to read while I’m at the lake with the grandies. Not too engrossing because I need to keep an eye on the kids and the dog.

      • Jadzia says:

        I’m not big into fiction but like pretty much everything Christopher Buckley writes. Nice and light.

    • John Denney says:

      Here’s a fun read. eKindle is only 99 cents. 🙂

  24. Ann says:

    This thread (people are so sick)

    • Anthony says:

      Schlichter calls her the Ku Klux Korean…

      You may think you know the deal about her prejudice, but you don’t really know the deal, not until you read the full extent of the Ku Klux Korean immigrant’s portfolio of bigoted tweetery”

  25. Dora says:

    Still has nothing to do with President Trump.

  26. Dora says:

    I saw a little of this on the news, but I didn’t realize they were Muslims.


    Search for missing Atlanta Muslim child leads to discovery of a makeshift armed Muslim compound in New Mexico

    • lateblum says:

      Hmmm. There has been NO mention of Muslims or Islam or anything else on any of the reports of today. They did say his father was arrested as well as some other man, nothing of the little boy, though.

  27. DeniseVB says:

    Alex had a couple million followers, do you think FB and Twitter will feel the effect? Guess I better get back on GAB 😉 I don’t love or hate Jones, so I’m indifferent to where he ends up. I do love Paul Joseph Watson and Owen Shroyer (who actually engages the protesters, like butter). Just got this in email……..

    For two years now Gab has been warning of the censorship and no-platforming of Silicon Valley tech companies. Today these companies acted in unison to completely no-platform Alex Jones and Infowars from the mainstream internet.

    Apple, Facebook, Youtube, Pinterest, and Spotify all banned Alex Jones and Infowars from their platforms. This unprecedented level authoritarian censorship from Big Tech is only the beginning. Their double standards and hypocrisy are on full display. While employees of CNN, Buzzfeed, NYT, and LA Times can all openly proclaim their hatred for white people, Alex Jones is banned for “hate speech.”

    Gab is committed to providing a platform for anyone who wants to speak freely. We welcome everyone and always have. You can find Alex Jones on Gab here. You can watch the 24/7 Infowars Livestream on Gab here.

  28. Myiq2xu™ says:

  29. Ann says:

    The DiFi – Chinese spy story just keeps getting “better” and “better”:

    BREAKING: Feinstein’s Chinese Spy Identified — ‘Russell Lowe’ — Was OFFICE MANAGER Not just a Driver — Feinstein Aide for 20 YEARS!

  30. helenk3 says:

    thought some of you might like this

  31. helenk3 says:

    saw some of the anitfa antics today on tv. made me think. no wonder the dems and the left are fighting so hard for abortion, would you want to bring one of these into the world?
    i wouldn’t.

  32. mothy2017 says:

    It is 92 outside. I cut my grass. My t-shirt is soaked. Little girl across the street is outside watching about 5 little boys and a couple of neighborhood girls. Most of the boys I assume are her brothers as they are outside kicking a ball all day everyday. The girls look under ten and are gingers. I told my sister I thought they were Franny from Homeland. The girl is wearing a t-shirt over a long sleeve shirt. Jeans a scarf around her head. It has to be 100 with humidity. Boys are shirtless and riding bikes. The neighborhood girls are in bathing suits. She doesn’t play. Supervises. It is such a sad sight to behold. How can that not be abuse. Boys attend public but she is home schooled or attends some private thing. Likely at tax payer expense. The miscreants who run all day and night with them? I think they are 5th. Nothing new for them to have zero supervision. Or for drunken fits throwing furniture with police involved. Little girls probably have closest thing to a mother with a child year old in a burka in August sweltering heat.

  33. DandyTIger says:

    • Dora says:

      He was brilliant.

      I miss him.

    • SHV says:

      “National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977)”
      Perhaps the high point of free speech in the US and a time when the ACLU could still claim to be “Liberal”. IIRC, the ACLU took a major membership and financial hit after that case. I gave money to the ACLU every year and carried my Blue ACLU member card next to my NRA car in my wallet. Over the years they gave up the pretense of liberalism and finally with Obama became just another PROG DemSoc group.

      • Jadzia says:

        I worked at the ACLU of Illinois in the early 1990s, when it was still run by people who were there during the Skokie thing. They told me that the organization lost something like 1/3 of its members over that case. It’s not easy to do the right thing!

  34. Underwhelmed says:

    The more they talk, the more they reveal themselves. So by all means, let them keep flapping their lips.

    • lateblum says:

      Yes. Let’s just let them flap away. They couldn’t be more clear. And we knew it all along. Especially those of us who #Walk(ed)Away.

  35. mothy2017 says:

    I am in a sour mood. Earler today I spoke with one of the h.s band people. Our district is so small that jr high marches in some high school stuff. They just finished band camp. This year for the first year they didn’t go away. So unfair. These kids report at 8 am and work all day for two weeks in the middle of their summer. They can do little else. Going away for two weeks gave them a memory( no American Pie jokes) as a reward. Friday night they performed at the stadium. Everyone was why didn’t they go away. School said it was money. They saved 85 a student. Not 85/day. 85 per student for two weeks. Our park is next to the high school. The stadium is in the boro park. Any use is rented by the school from the park. I said well next year can we consider additional fundraising so no one gets an added cost. I was then told by a woman that does not work for the school that I needed to check myself. To her credit she did not say white or privilege, but check myself. “Not all cultures are comfortable with sleep aways” Huh? You told me it was money now its cultural? Competitions and if our shitty team ever won so are games. They play at Disney. They had always gone away to one of Pitt’s campuses for two weeks. My charge plays the sax. Band camp is work. Those kids deserved some fun. I want to see the expenses. Want to see what was paid. The 85 difference isn’t even real as that included all meals. Stay at home camp had lunch only. I want to see the budget. Our park guy literally erected a yuuuuge plaque dedicating one of the ball fields to himself. When I first saw it earlier this spring I said “oh my, did he die” . Nope he was right behind me. He looked at the band budget and said no let’s keep that money here and lie. An 85 dollar year to year increase is nothing. I don’t think any kid who can’t pay does. There are suggestions and tons of fundraisers. Any extra goes into an interest bearing account. There is always some extra.
    I am ranting about this because #1 it infuriates me and Letter B I think this is how 99% of politicians behave. They lie and rob. I didn’t even know we had a parks commissioner until he wanted to shut down the pool and build some complex. The park is not that big. A stadium, four ball fields, one of those covered things you can eat under, a few slides and swings, one tennis court, one basketball court and deck hockey. Everything is right next to the next thing. Its a few city blocks. It looks like its the high schools grounds. The high school pays to use it. This guy makes decent money, I assume. I want to see if next years cost increases by more than 85 a student.

    • mothy2017 says:

      I am going to demand to see how not paying for buses, chaperones, two plus meals a day, 12 days of lodging results in a savings of 85 per student. It’s so ridiculous.

  36. helenk3 says:

    I want this hat

  37. helenk3 says:

    isn’t this sexism?

  38. Somebody says:

    Klown, wanted to let you know that Wal-Mart has a 22 caliber, sub sonic, air rifle with a nitrogen piston that shoots BB’s or pellets. Price is $74, has a scope, adjustable two stage trigger, but no iron sites. Maker is Benjamin it is the Prowler.

    You can dispatch critters quietly and easily. I assume they’re legal in CA, but who knows. That is a really good price, hubby has been eyeing one for years. I know you have critter problems too, so just wanted to let you know. It’s officially armadillo season here!

    • Myiq2xu™ says:

      My current varmint problem is the two-legged variety. But it is illegal in California to shoot them except in self-defense. They have taken over everything and are spreading eastward into neighboring states.

    • Jadzia says:

      I am interested in learning more about air rifles because they are LEGAL here. I have big plans to learn to shoot this fall (right now everybody in the damn country except me is not working) if I can get my husband to take me the first few times so that I can get past the bad-French, woman(*) awkwardness with a minimum of pain.

      (*)French ladies for the most part don’t shoot. I will almost certainly be the only woman in the club.

      • Jadzia says:

        That said, if the gun-club guys are like the gym guys (French ladies also don’t really lift weights), we’ll get along just fine after the first few visits. I miss my little-old-man cheering section at the gym in the old neighborhood.

  39. mothy2017 says:

    This is the way politics work here. Dims work against the taxpayer. There was a referendum on whether to tear down Three River’s Stadium and build two new arenas. Billions of dollars voters said no. They did it anyway and put it on the entire county. Heinz field has how many games? There are what a handful of arena summer concerts? How do you earn back a billion dollars. The county has to participate in police defense.
    They against voters wishes passed a drink tax of 7% to fund public transportation. SEVEN % from a population if 1.25 million people. I had a bar in an area where there were 0 buses. None zip. I, or rather my customers, paid about 350 a week for the bus. I was a dive. How much has been/is collected daily. They reduced service, raised fares. Where is the money going. College students can ride the bus for free as can city students during school hours. I would think that those passes come with a big payment from the city and universities. When I was at Temple I lived Center City . A transit pass was part of my room and board. Was unlimited. I think its great and makes sense for a city like Pittsburgh to offer bus passes but should it be subsidized by a working stiff having a beer who is going to be walking if his car doesn’t start?
    I want to see a forensics analysis of where drink tax has/is going. The screams as it took place where its about the poor. We have to save the buses so poor people can work. Hmm prices went up and routes diminished. A couple of lines went private. I think they had to adhere to free rides for seniors and could only charge what a bus would for a disabled person if they are disabled and had to make sure bus would create a stop if there was a disabled person on the route. Like if a stop is every 25 blocks by law they hadcto arrange a stop convenient. The only places that went private came from areas where people could have driven butvlike commutes where a bus doesn’t stop every block. I live a 15 minute drive from Oakland. It takes me two hours by bus. I as you all know have not yet gotten my driver’s license. I need a lot of time on switching lanes. So I have participated in bus culture for the last 12 years. It needs to be privatized in small to medium cities. It cannot be a guarantee that no matter where you live the state will provide you with transportation. I take it everyday. I work a difficult not much better than minimum wage job so hooligan can have the iphone 50. No one where I work takes a bus. I have asked people about mid day bus they are like not unless its near the end of the world and I need to get to a bar. If I am going downtown it takes me 45 minutes. It takes me one hour and 15 to walk. It’s stop, stop, stop. .
    I said this many times before– the bus I was on after meagain had blood coming out of I don’t know where debate is largely black professionals working downtown that accept the hour commute, I assume, so their kids don’t attend city schools or maybe they like a backyard and no crack. Or maybe they find an hour on a bus relaxing? I found/find it humorous when I see what the media tells me black America is like. I grew up in a nearly split town. My mainline college friends taught me everything I want to know about racism and it is not what they thought.
    Post oblameeveryoneelse I find the show Family Feud to be convalescent. Those families depict real people. It’s like my bus. My angry wealthy white friends are never tired about white trash hating the black man. It is so untrue. The biggest thing I ever notice and have since I was 6 was that black families party on the front porch. My kind do it in the backyard. I have been called racist by a person who grew up in Narbeth . Never knew a black person. Where I grew up Catholic was an issue. I have a protestant side. There was always drama.

  40. mothy2017 says:

    I wonder why Marc Mezvinsky’s bio on wiki still lists his bio brother his adopted brother and not his sisters. He had two older sisters that were adopted. I will say Marjorie Margolies cared deeply about her daughter that she adopted from Vietnam. Holly died from cervical cancer during or right before election. I get it being private. Holly was not typical. We only lived together on a lease forva few months. Before that she just crashed wherevI lived. There was nothing sexual. I had an apartment near where we worked. We drank a lot. Crashed. I found their family fascinating. I was the poorest kid. One day she insisted we go to her home. Called her families diver. We were young. This gorgeous black woman picks us up. Tells the three of us to not speak again until out of the car. She is not putting up with bullshit from some drunk kids. She was the driver and lived in the carriage house. She was a single mother but her child went to the same school-= friends select as did all of the kids in the house. Well we go in and head for the wine. Little Marc stopped us. I guess this was not first time. He was such a nice good looking kid. We had to sit in a room off the kitchen because the Aisan housekeeper was not putting up with any of our shit( her son that I guess is vu pham also attended Friends Select) They had a satellite dish that was the size of a sudan. Everything was child blocked. Marjorie loved her daughter. Holly and I got a house in South Philly. I had most of my half. She had nothing. They took me to TGI Fridays and grilled me about being able to pay. They didn’t buy but we rented same house. Was only a few months before I moved to NYC. Marc Mezvinsky’s mom loved her daughter. She never did not stand by her child. Not once.
    I do not get how Holly is not a thing. She was a Vietnamese adoptee. She graduated from UPenn. She died from cervical cancer. She was gorgeous. Why nothing from Clintons? Is it respect? Okay but his oldest sister is a lawyer. Nothing about his adoptive sisters, but his adoptive brother shows up everywhere. I think the older sister wants nothing.

    • swanspirit says:

      Have you ever tried editing the wiki yourself? To see if it stays there?

      • elliesmom says:

        If you choose to edit an obscure wiki entry that isn’t near and dear to someone’s heart, your edit can remain for a long, long time even if what you write is obviously wrong. But if you choose something that gets a lot of hits and has a large group of watchdogs, the turn around time can be just a few minutes. It’s an experiment I did with one of my classes to teach them why wikipedia is not a good source for real research. Then I sent them to google some satirical websites to show them they can’t trust a site just because they found it in a google search. The kids couldn’t decide which one they liked better, the Northwest Pacific Tree Octopus or the one about raising naugas for their hides. The velcro farms were pretty good, too. But they got suckered by the dihydrogen monoxide searches.

  41. Myiq2xu™ says:

    My fear is that they will succeed in agitating the crazies and there will be an incident. I wouldn’t miss any of them but I don’t want any of these CNN douchebags to become martyrs.

    They are bad enough already.

  42. Dora says:

    • Venus E. Lee says:

  43. Dora says:

    Here’s more about that muslim compound.


    An 8-word note led police to ‘filthy’ compound in New Mexico – with links to Islamism

  44. Dora says:

    Tick Alert for NYC!

    Such cute little things. UGH!


    Asian Ticks Spreading Rapidly In Area, Report Says

    It’s the first new species of tick to be found in the U.S. in 50 years.

  45. Myiq2xu™ says:

    He didn’t marry his daughter, but he did have sexual relations with his favorite goat.

  46. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Jake the Fake works hard at seeming to be reasonable.

  47. Miranda says:

    Hollywood chamber of commerce wants to remove Trump’s star.

    • swanspirit says:

      If the reason they want to remove POTUS star, is unproven allegations of his treatment of women, there is an entire list of stars they had better start removing first, the fucking hypocrites.

  48. Myiq2xu™ says:

  49. helenk3 says:

    as usual Victor Davis Hanson gets it right.
    this bunch did more to harm our country than any outside enemy could have ever thought to do

  50. helenk3 says:

    this was overlooked when it happened. A REAL GAME CHANGER that could change the world

  51. Dora says:

  52. votermom says:

    this is hilarious

    the thread starts here

  53. helenk3 says:

    I was thinking again. Not always a good thing.
    considering what is happening to DIfi, how long do you think schumer will be around? old white guys have no place in the new democratic party.

    • mothy2017 says:

      In all the dystopian movies and books the people like shumer are quickly destroyed when power changes. They are usually put to death. The new order hates them more than those they opposed. Nothingbis genuine with high ranking dims. Media is ignoring pastvstatements, but they will come to light. Look at how tweets are destroying careers. Right now the focus is all Trump. Should they have success. Attention will turn to them. Kimmel and Chelsea Handler are racist. They both have/had an ostensibly low IQ Mexican sidekick they openly belittled for effect. Handler does it with a little person. I have been an acquaintance with a small actor since early 90’s. Best guy. Very funny. Lots of men would have fetish sex with him. He is not super famous but recognizable. He would rob them blind. They were not seeing him as human butvas something cool and freaky to do. He took his revenge by robbing them. What you gonna do go to the police and say the dwarf I fucked rolled me. He laughed but he was angry and he kept videos. I asked him if he hated me because I have a mad crush on the Tyrion Lannister character. He said no he pities me because he thinks its a crush on myself. Narcissistic. He said you never ever shut up but sometimes you make a little sense.

  54. Dora says:


    The suspensions come a day after Alex Jones, and his podcast InfoWars, was kicked out from several popular media platforms, including Facebook, YouTube and Spotify

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