Tuesday True Statement Open Thread

Back in the innocent youthful days of my 40’s I became infatuated with the idea of social media as a virtual public forum where everybody could have their own soapbox and anyone could debate anyone. A place for pure debate, where logic and reason reigned supreme.

Boy, was I wrong. Like all utopias, it did not survive contact with human nature. Eventually, I came to the realization that nobody has ever won an argument on the internet. Lies never die on the internet. You can track down a lie, corner it, and beat it into submission. But after tattooing “DEBUNKED” on the lie’s forehead and leaving it for dead you turn around and there it is again, completely unharmed.

Social media is evil. Social media is a portal into hell. Facebook’s sign-in page should have a banner that says “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”


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158 Responses to Tuesday True Statement Open Thread

  1. Constance says:

    Same with my idea that women would change politics and government once there were sufficient numbers of women in politics. HA! That Utopian idea got stomped on by reality and human nature which women are also subject to.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    It took a few years, but once you learn to manage your settings, get the hang of blocking and muting, I rather enjoy hanging out on FB and Twitter.

    • Myiq2xu™ says:

      Twitter can be fun, but FB was getting too damn aggressive in demanding my personal info. I don’t want them knowing my secrets. Zuck Fuckerberg.

      • lateblum says:

        I was on FB years ago…2007-8. Everything was “Obama this… Obama that…” I left when I felt so intimidated by the overwhelmingly hateful responses to anything pro-HRC. I just walked away. Never said I was going. I just left. I was fine with that, then. I’m fine with that now.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I didn’t join FB until 2009, you’d still be there if we were “friends” 😀 Seriously, come back, those of us here over there have a lot of fun. A few years ago I figured out a way to make a secret clubhouse for TCH, I don’t even think Zuck can find us (lol!).

        • taw46 says:

          You have to scroll on by. And “hide” certain leftist publications when they show up. And unfriend. And of course, join the secret clubhouse! LOL.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I give FB nothing. I use my real name and hometown so old boyfriends can find me 😛 So far I’m scoring with my h.s. boyfriends, but those were my virgin years.

        My son uses a fake name and occupation. The rest of my relatives (who haven’t defriended me yet) use their real names and it’s mostly family stuff. Those are worth it.

        The only politics I follow are the WalkAway group, Milo,Scott Presler, a few conservative comedians and some nutty liberal bashing pages, but those are uplifting. Like Twitter, I avoid PDJT and msm posts because of the trolls they attract. I’m boring on FB 😀

        FB is a time suck, but a happy one.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Now this is just weird ….

  4. John Denney says:

    Shocking? I didn’t find this shocking at all. I find chemistry and physics very interesting, but this is a big nothingburger.


    Why is it a nothingburger? Because besides loving chemistry and physics, I’m also a software engineer.

    DNA is evidence that God exists.
    For life to exist, it must replicate. Replication requires the DNA replicate, which requires, among other things, two enzymes. The coding for the two enzymes must exist in the DNA, otherwise the cell could not replicate. What are the odds of the coding for these two enzymes appearing by random chance? (Remember, there is no life yet, so evolution is not the answer.) The enzymes are complex, requiring about 1800 “rungs” on the DNA ladder for their coding. Each rung can be one of four possibilities, so the odds of guessing the right combination of 1800 rungs is 1 chance in 4 raised to the 1800th power. That’s a really small chance; less than 1 in 10 followed by 1000 zeroes.

    “But”, you say, “in a 15 billion year old universe with billions of suns . . .”

    OK. The universe is estimated to contain about 10 to the 70th atoms. (That’s a 1 followed by 70 zeroes.) If we were to go to the absurd extreme of giving every atom in the universe a million guesses per second for 15 billion years, how many guesses would that be? Not even 10 to the 100th power. The number of expected correct guesses is the number of guesses multiplied by the odds, for instance, guessing “heads” or “tails” for 100 coin tosses, where the odds are 1 in 2, 100 times 1/2 gives you 50 as the number of correct guesses to expect.

    If we multiply our absurdly overestimated number of cosmic guesses of the correct enzymatic combination times the odds of guessing correctly, we get zeroes out to the 900th decimal place.

    Since the universe is incapable of generating that DNA information, an open minded individual would conclude that it had to have come from outside the universe, which coincides nicely with, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.”

    • lateblum says:

      Is your other name Thomas Aquinas?
      I’m using your proof of the existence of God the next time I’m challenged. I plan to print it out and tuck it away in my “back pocket”.

      • John Denney says:

        Oh, yes! Feel free to do so!
        I’ve gotten two arguments back:
        1) You should talk to a REAL scientist.
        Over breakfast in a B&B, I presented this argument to a married couple who were both Ph.Ds working with DNA in the biotech industry. They mumbled something about:

        2) DNA may have evolved in a hypothetical RNA world.

        Then they changed the subject. It was a very weak argument since it just pushes the argument back one level.

        Note that my argument is only concerned with the odds of getting the INFORMATION CONTENT correct. It doesn’t consider the improbabilities of the organic chemistry required to create DNA in the first place, and the odds against protein machinery falling together by random chance capable of reading the DNA and doing what it says. And the odds against said DNA and protein machinery falling together by random chance on the same planet.
        The Miller-Urey experiment generated amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein, but DNA is not made of amino acids; it’s made of nucleotides.

    • swanspirit says:

      That was fun. Even mathematically, you can’t get past that prime mover, even in the primordial soup.

      • Myiq2xu™ says:

        I’ve always thought that the Genesis story of creation sounded remarkably like someone describing the Big Bang.

        1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

        2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

        3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      You have stated, far more succinctly, the thoughts that often run through my head as to why there is something far greater than mere chance at play that we are here and it always leads back to “In the beginning . . “.

    • 1539days says:

      They “made life” from pyruvate, which is made from glucose, which is made by living freaking plants.

      That’s like making a motorcycle from a car.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I love this stuff, thanks John. A few years ago I watched a film at the AMNH about the deepest explorations of our oceans. What blew me away were the samples gathered from deepest ocean floor samples ever harvested, ever 😉 It was a bacteria that shared DNA with humans. I think it was this one: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0331068/

  5. MIranda says:

    This is why my social media runs to cat videos and an occasional knitting/gardening post.

  6. taw46 says:

  7. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Mom was watching The View. I asked her, “Who’s the brunette with the big red lips?”
    “Dak Shepard?”
    “No, not the guy.”
    “That’s his wife Kri . . .”
    “Not the blonde, THE ONE WITH THE DARK HAIR!”
    If she had said “Whoopie Goldberg” I would have lost it, but just then they finally showed her face again.
    “THAT ONE! The one with the giant clown mouth. Who is that?”
    “I dunno.”

    I used the remote to find out it was Abby Huntsman.

  8. Venus E. Lee says:

    Feel good news of the day (threar)

  9. taw46 says:

    • taw46 says:

      • swanspirit says:

        Some radical feminists are fighting it, and they have been labeled TERFs. TERF translates to Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. They have been ostracized from feminist and LGBT events, online sites, tossed off of public committees, and attacked verbally and physically by the more demure members of the Trans community,
        Julia Beck, a lesbian advocate made her case on Tucker Carlson.

      • SHV says:

        Martina called bullshit on men playing in women’s tennis matches and she was promptly trashed as transphobic, hater, expelled from the LBTQetc. community. This trans bullshit is just another example of women being abused by a small group of men and “intersectional feminists” cooperating and supporting the bullying; this is some sick “progressive” shit.

        • swanspirit says:

          Exactly. There is no room for discussion or debate with these neofascists. If you disagree, it doesn’t matter who or what you are or were to their community. You are ousted, and ostracized.

        • Venus E. Lee says:

          Marina is a fucking PIONEER of gays in sports.
          Doing that to her is scary as to what it means they will do to others.

      • Jadzia says:

        Try GenderCritical on Reddit. Or for the less squeamish, the Jonathan Yaniv (Balldemort) thread on Kiwi Farms.

    • John Denney says:

      If you have XX chromosomes, you have a female body.
      If you have XY chromosomes, you have a male body.
      Male bodies vs. female bodies is unfair competition, just check all the Olympic records of, say, women’s 50 meter race vs. men’s 50 meter race. Or weightlifting.

      Science, baby.

  10. lateblum says:

    Isn’t it just amazing how twisted these feminists are? It used to be about equality and respect. Now it’s about how not to upset the Liberal agenda. Voila! Pawns once again.

  11. taw46 says:

    The schedule tomorrow:

  12. swanspirit says:

    I know I am old in internet years. I am so old, I remember flame wars. Flame wars usually took place on a quaint and antique internet communication device called a message board. Some people enjoyed flame wars. Those people tried to deliberately start flame wars. These people were first called flamers, and then eventually became known as trolls. People learned, sometimes the hard way, not to feed the trolls. Some people still do, but far fewer.
    But back then, anonymity was a shield,and people could get away with a lot more, than they can now.

  13. Dora says:


    • lyn says:

      Banana Republic!

    • Cisco says:

      I agree.
      Socialism is working very well in Venuzula.
      Ask any Venuzulan, but hurry before they continue to starve to death.

    • Constance says:

      I think what is behind this with the younger voters is they all are paying into Social Security and Medicare and they believe there will be nothing there for them when they are old. So they feel the system isn’t working for them and any system would be an improvement. President Trump needs to take steps to stabilize both programs and then young folks will believe in the American system again.

  14. helenk3 says:

    has anyone ever figured out just how much money comes to politicians from dead babies and their parts. The way they are fighting to keep the flow of it going it must be a lot.

  15. Dora says:

  16. Dora says:

    More about Matt Gaetz:

  17. Myiq2xu™ says:

  18. Dora says:

    LGBT Activists Teaching Judges To Yank Kids From Parents Who Won’t Transgender Them

    Documents obtained from Rhode Island Family Court must concern any person who questions whether it’s a good idea to chemically and surgically mutilate children.


  19. DeniseVB says:

    Report from the Mom Cave: Just saw the last episode of The Gilmore Girls. Bummer. “Rory” got hired by the Obama campaign in 2007, so it ended in a thud. No wonder it’s only on the UP channel.

  20. lyn says:

  21. helenk3 says:


    if they can not kill us off at birth, now they will get us killed when we get sick. who chooses the treatment and who gets it?

    • Cisco says:

      Depends how you vote…alive or dead, Dem wise

    • Anthony says:

      Those “Death Panels” were part of foundation Obamacare. The quality, scope and calibre of your healthcare is determined by the amount of taxes you pay to the Mütterland… Support the state completely at all costs, even your life. Fascist motherfuckers.

  22. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Norkorea has been a Chinese puppet regime since before I was born. Trump is telling KJU, “You’re not a puppet, you’re a real boy.” Stealing China’s favorite puppet right out of their backyard using nothing but a little flattery would be an unprecedented diplomatic coup.

  23. Myiq2xu™ says:

  24. Myiq2xu™ says:

    This is disturbing:

    There’s one thing about Panodrama that remains unclear. It was supposed to be live-streamed on Facebook during the Manchester rally, but the stream stopped dead early on. A backup YouTube stream also halted shortly thereafter. The film was switched to a new Facebook page, that feed, too, terminated mysteriously. Not until Monday afternoon, Greenwich time, was the full documentary posted on Tommy’s Facebook page. It’s now gone. In fact, on Tuesday, Tommy was banned from Facebook and his page taken down. Presumably the documentary will resurface somewhere else online. Find it and watch it. By itself, it won’t sink the BBC, but it’s a brilliant job, handsomely photographed and snappily edited — and it is, we can hope, just the opening salvo in a long-deferred, all-out war against the British government’s fake-news empire.

    Facebook morghulis.

    • Cisco says:

      Kicked Brit’s ass’s back then, pulled their ass’s twice, so nothing the fake BBC news or America’s fake news is of any consequences, except for the haters and plain stupid.

  25. Venus E. Lee says:

    Most pressing issue of our time! Serious you guys! We are all dead in 12 years if we don’t fix it now!

  26. Dora says:

    • lyn says:

      Angie is in that thread beating down the lunatics.

      • DeniseVB says:

        My God, that’s a crazy thread. They honestly believe it’s over for PDJT? This is the end of him once and for all? Cohen is our hero. blah, blah, vomit, blah. I still won’t watch this kabuki, just a distraction from the Hanoi summit and fake news is eating it up. Pissants.

        • Somebody says:

          I won’t watch it either, hubby has it on in background. Walked by a minute ago Jim Jordan asked Cohen if he’d met with special counsel since his sentencing hearing. He said he met with SC 7 times, Jordan says public record you met 7 times prior to sentencing, I am asking have you met with anyone in the SC’s office since the date of your sentencing. Chairman says time expired…….Cohen says, I don’t know how to answer that question…..what a crock.

          This is all kabuki, a show trial to trash POTUS. None of this has anything to do with oversight of the government. I hope Cohen gets a nice cell with Bubba and gets to be the mommy. Truth is, Cohen will never make it to a jail cell and he’s probably too stupid to realize it. He’s nothing more than a useful idiot and it’d be too risky to keep him around, he’s proven he has no loyalty. He will be Arkancided soon after he finishes testifying before the various committees. I hope his wife has maintained his life insurance policies.

          • Dora says:

            I felt a chill when I read that.

            Probably because I know you’re right.

          • Somebody says:

            Damn skippy, not sure if he’ll commit “suicide”, have a tragic accident or maybe they’ll let him report to prison and he’ll be Whitey Bulgered. He has to know that is the fate that awaits him……..dear me, what if that’s the plan? What if they set this up, then they kill him and somehow try to frame POTUS or his family???

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  29. helenk3 says:

    just wondering

    did the new democratic party AKA as the gosnell group put any age limit on how old a child can be before is it is crime to kill it?

  30. taw46 says:

  31. Venus E. Lee says:

    Prepping the lunatics for disappointment

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  34. DeniseVB says:

    This goes with the discussion upthread, pretty cool Cosmic zoom….

  35. taw46 says:

  36. Dora says:

    BUSTED: Unearthed Video from Chicago Church Shows Barack Obama Making Fun of the Bible, Mocking Jesus


  37. Dora says:

    Boo Hoo. 🙂

  38. DeniseVB says:

    More proof Democrats are evil, or stupid, or both. Obviously following a Resist script from Nanzi.

    • lyn says:

      What a disgusting and ignorant bitch.

    • Somebody says:

      Don’t you just wish somebody on that committee would look her straight in the eye and tell her she is a bat shit crazy bitch that is ignorant of history. Probably why none of us are Congressional representatives we’re too honest.

  39. DeniseVB says:

    No wonder the whole world hates our media.

  40. helenk3 says:

    when it becomes available you have to see the clip of JIm Jordan going off on the dems at the cohan hearing. it is epic

  41. lyn says:

  42. foxyladi14 says:

    A political circus.

    • mcnorman says:

      Does this guy think that he is seriously ever going to get past the I lie, but I’m not a liar label? His own words…he’s stupid to the Dem degree which is infinite.

    • helenk3 says:

      he will do some really tough time in jail. snitches get stiches and lawyer snitches are really the bottom of the barrel.

  43. Dora says:

    • Somebody says:

      Asians LOVE Trump. When we went to the Trump rally here, there were Asians everywhere and they were effusive about their love for DJT. The Asian population of JAX is 4.37%, I’m pretty sure they all came to that Trump rally.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Love it ! Proof PDJT is an international rock star 🙂

  44. DeniseVB says:

    Hey guys, here’s proof Obama was in Hanoi too 😀

  45. Dora says:

    Every prominent conservative is either going to be gone entirely, or almost invisible by the time the primaries start.


  46. swanspirit says:

    Cohen: ” I will not commit to not doing a movie or a book deal “

  47. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Don’t you hate it when you sleep in and still wake up tired?

  48. Myiq2xu™ says:

  49. taw46 says:

    More Jim Jordan.

  50. taw46 says:

    LOL. Even CNN doesn’t believe him.

  51. Dora says:

    They should be proud to have the president’s name on their building.


    Condo buildings to strip Trump’s name

    NEW YORK (AP) — Big, brassy letters spelling “Trump” will be ripped off another New York City apartment tower, the last of six luxury condominiums that once displayed the president’s name.

    Owners got an email Friday from the board of a high-rise on Manhattan’s west side confirming that “Trump Place” will disappear from the facade in coming weeks.


    • Constance says:

      Well that is not really Trump hate although it will be presented that way. Having the Trump name on the building makes them targets for the deranged Democrat Trump haters. I think they are just trying to make their home environment safe from violent Democrat nut cases.

  52. Dora says:

    Back to the important stuff.

  53. helenk3 says:

    He claims he started the campaign for trump to run for president.
    also said he talked with adam shiff about what would be talked about at the hearing. is that legal?

  54. DeniseVB says:

    Saw this on Vic Dibitetto’s FB “Now this is a Senate Hearing! LOL !

  55. votermom says:

    saw some of Cohen’s drama on tv
    He’s doing a Better Call Saul impression

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