Is Cowardice A Crime?

What should we do when those we hire to “protect and serve” fail to protect?

The Broward Coward has been arrested.:

The Florida deputy who failed to confront a gunman during last year’s Parkland massacre has been arrested on 11 charges, prosecutors said Tuesday. Scot Peterson, 56, faces child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury charges, State Attorney Mike Satz said in the announcement.

Peterson, then a Broward County deputy, was on duty during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School but never went inside. Satz said the charges carry a combined prison sentence of nearly 100 years. Peterson’s bail was set at $102,000. Once released, Peterson will be required to wear a GPS monitor and surrender his passport, and will be prohibited from possessing a firearm, the prosecutor said.

[…]

Peterson, the only armed officer at the school the day of the attack, was seen on video remaining outside the school building as shots rang out.

[…]

Peterson’s attorney, Joseph DiRuzzo, said in a statement his client could not be prosecuted on child neglect, negligence charges because he was not a “caregiver” of the students, which he defined as a parent, adult household member, or other person responsible for a child’s welfare.”

He said, “the State’s actions appear to be nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt at politically motivated retribution against Mr. Peterson as no other individual employed at the Broward Sheriff’s Office or Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School has been criminally charged.”

There are a lot of people applauding this news. I’m gonna be a contrarian and say I’m not so sure about criminalizing cowardice. Was Peterson’s inaction despicable? Definitely. Should he have been fired? Oh, you betcha.

In the military, cowardice in the face of the enemy can get you a date with a firing squad, but that law has rarely been enforced. Putting a man on trial because he was scared shitless seems unfair.

As these nutball mass shootings have a regular occurrence in the past couple of decades, police response policies have changed. The police used to respond by setting up a perimeter to keep the shooter(s) contained, and then waited for a SWAT unit to enter and engage the shooter. This allowed the shooters to keep killing while the cops waited.

The newer policies (including the one in effect at Parkland) require the cops to enter and engage the shooter immediately. What Peterson did was basically follow the old policy.

It takes a special kind of person to be a cop. Cops are expected to run toward danger, not away from it. A cop without courage is a waste of tax dollars.

Don’t be surprised to see police unions defend Peterson.

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141 Responses to Is Cowardice A Crime?

  1. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Still waiting for Jake Tapper to apologize to Dana Loesch for the fucked up town hall he set up.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    Since the deputy made news, I keep seeing references to a stand down order given that day by the even more cowardly (and politically motivated) sheriff. I was so disappointed it wasn’t him that would eventually take the responsibility. They’ve got the wrong guy, I thought. I don’t think school security guards are required to have SWAT training, nor do I think if he “stormed” the building he would have survived.

    Speaking of “storming”, here’s a nice link to all things (including videos) of today’s DDay75 commemorative ceremony.

  3. Myiq2xu™ says:

  4. helenk3 says:

    his cowardness is one thing, but directing other officers to stay away is another. Many people including me do not know how they would act under fire
    .From what I have read as other officers arrived he directed them not to enter the school.He said he was following protocol.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Speaking of cowards, several GOPers defected and voted for this mess. I hope it dies in the Senate. It better, $34 billion for the illegals – $0 for the wall. Insanity.

    • helenk3 says:

      can’t we just pick them up seats and all and put them on a C130 and drop them south of the border? Parachutes at pilots discretion. They want to represent them more than they want to represent the American citizen

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Not. A. Coward. ❤

  7. jeffhas says:

    I was conflicted until I saw him interviewed, he seems pretty ‘confident’ in his defense (he comes off like a dick to me)…, a little contrition about his own role might have helped – although maybe not legally smart. A bunch of kids died, and you were either scared shitless or plain wrong on the procedure to follow – either way, showing in some way that you are sorry might be the human thing to do rather then dig your heels in and let everybody know how ‘right’ your conduct was.

    I’m on the ‘let the courts sort it out’ side at this point.

  8. elliesmom says:

    I think fired, stripped of his pension, and publicly humiliated is the appropriate punishment for all but the perjury. I’ve been through lockdown training in case there’s an active shooter in two different school systems, and abandoning the children to save myself was not acceptable in either place. I was expected to put the lives of the children above my own, and that was spelled out. I was not allowed to be armed. I don’t know how I would have reacted if the situation had ever occurred, but I hope if I had bolted, I wouldn’t have faced life in prison. Now, my job decription didn’t include “to preserve and protect” when I signed my contract so maybe members of law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than an unarmed teacher. What’s apparent to me is this guy shouldn’t be in a job where running into the fire is a requirement.

    • lyn says:

      Word. Strip the loser of his pension.

      • lyn says:

        Or give his pension to the families of the dead.

      • Somebody says:

        Technically he paid money into said pension throughout his career. I am not aware of any mechanism to just take someone’s pension as punishment. I don’t think we want to see the precedent set either, shot rolls downhill.

        That being said, generally speaking if you are fired for cause you forfeit your pension. The employee in question would have various appeal mechanisms.

        I agree with you Klown, cowardice shouldn’t be criminalized. Perjury is indeed a crime and if he committed perjury he should pay the price. Otherwise this is a politically motivated vendetta and stuff like that had no place in our justice system.

    • John Denney says:

      “I was expected to put the lives of the children above my own, and that was spelled out. I was not allowed to be armed.

      Idiots. Being defenseless is not the solution.

      The left is making us a nation of people incompetent at the use of arms.

      I bought my son a pellet rifle to train him, but city ordinances forbid its discharge anywhere except at a firing range. Nearest firing range is the police range, but they would not allow us in.

      • Anthony says:

        Gone are the days of the cast iron skillet swinging by a rope tied to a tree limb…

        • DeniseVB says:

          Yeah, that’s probably frowned upon in NYC 😛 My son bought his girls their first rifles when they were 9, there’s always a remote area for shootin’ cans off a log, but mostly takes them to a firing range for target practice.

      • DeniseVB says:

        NRA has youth programs. My neighbor is an instructor and travels all over to train kids’ instructors. Sometimes he holds local camps for 4-H and the Boy Scouts because he loves working with the youth. Also, has an annual Ladies Only Who Have Never Fired a Gun Day and keeps inviting me. I know, I should go, but just not a gun fan. We’ve known him for over 20 years and none of his students have been involved in mass shootings nor have any of the ladies shot their husbands 😉

        • John Denney says:

          We took him to a range about 20 miles away for their Saturday morning kids training.

          For 5 bucks, maybe less, they got a morning training from seasoned competitive shooters, practice, then shooting for score using air rifles. Then everyone retreated to the clubhouse where the kids enjoyed a hot dog, chips, and soda while their targets were scored.
          What came next is brilliant. The number of kids was divided by three to determine the number of groups, 3 kids to a group. Each kid in a group was awarded a bronze, silver, or gold medal pin. If there were 21 kids, for instance, there would be 7 groups, ordered by score, with group 1 having the best scores.
          So, every kid got a pin, and most regulars wore a shooting hat festooned with the pins they had earned. Everyone knew their standing and how well they were progressing from week to week, so it wasn’t your typical, “Everyone gets a trophy” mentality. The kid who won the Group 1 gold pin could be rightfully proud of his accomplishment.

          • DeniseVB says:

            What fun ! Back in the day (the 60’s) our high school had a rifle club and treated like any other competitive sport. I wonder what changed ?

        • Jadzia says:

          My Aunt Lola shot her husband, though in her defense he needed it. Then they divorced. Then they remarried!

  9. DandyTIger says:

    Interesting question about this policeman. If he was given a stand down order, and he has that recorded or there are other witnesses to it, then he was just following orders. If not, then immediate firing was correct. But going to jail for inaction is a bridge too far. Though they’re carefully tap dancing around that legal (struck down by SCOTUS) problem by using some sort of negligence crime. But the unintended consequence is a big issue. If you’re a cop in the US, you can go to prison if you shoot someone trying to kill you or kill someone else if they’re the wrong protected identity, and you can go to jail if you don’t shoot someone trying to kill you or kill someone else if they’re not the wrong identity. Try recruiting police when that’s the way things work.

    • DeniseVB says:

      On a related note, wasn’t a stand down order given to our military for Benghazi ? Weren’t commanders relieved of duty for wanting to disobey it ? It was two months before Obama’s re-election and they obviously wanted this thing to go away.

      I’m not defending the Coward of Broward, but what difference, at this point, does it make ?
      😉

      • John Denney says:

        The Benghazi stand down order is a sore point with me.

        I trust Kris Paranto and his team more than the Obama administration if they say there was a stand down order.

        Obama said his orders were to do everything possible to mount a rescue, yet that didn’t happen. If those were indeed his orders, and someone countermanded the President’s orders with a stand down order, you’d think the President would be outraged. If so, he could determine in minutes who in the chain of command went against his orders.

        This stinks.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Yes, it would have been quite another story had the rapid response teams been deployed in response, even if they couldn’t make it in time, the effort would have been honorable. But commanders were relieved, 35 witnesses were gag ordered and other disturbing details from that night. We still don’t know where Obama was and Hillary was texting Chelsea, it’s not about a video, it was a terrorist attack. They both lied standing in front of those coffins. Never forget, I won’t ❤

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          I have always suspected that Barry was either unable or to even attain the minimal level of function at that point to even pretend to have a clue and someone else gave the actual orders. They cannot admit Barry was stoned or playing with porpoises.

          • DeniseVB says:

            In an unrelated event, do you remember when the USSS lost track of Obama for 45 minutes ? I’ve read enough of their books to know the USSS knows exactly where POTUS and FLOTUS are at all times. They keep logs. Never did hear about where he was then either. Yet, the USSS detail for Clinton knew the comings and goings of his WH mistresses to the point Monica had to be detained at the gate since Bill was still “busy” with Eleanor Mondale. Even Dan Bongino’s book mentioned when he was on the Clinton Chappaqua detail and Hillary was campaigning for the Senate, once HRC walked out the front door, Bill’s “lady friend” would come in the back door. Juicy.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    I saw the Miley cake tweet before I knew it was the PP political pac she was promoting. That’s the money laundering arm of PP that gives money to Democrats. Like my Gov “Coonman”** who made abortion legal in the 4th trimester.

    **Note to WP police, not a slur, it was his legitimate nickname in college.

  11. Dora says:

    All I know is that I’m starting to feel sorry for this man. It seems like he panicked. I would have too.

  12. helenk3 says:

    smollet not coming back to Empire. FIRED

    • Constance says:

      They just had to dump him. What he did is so offensive. No white people are doing what he thought up. He just was starting trouble and wallowing in victim hood.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I thought the show was cancelled because the cast demanded he be rehired ? The network said fine, you’re all fired? I follow tabloids, I should know these things 😛

  13. helenk3 says:

    this made my day

  14. Dora says:

    This woman is one sick chick!

    =====

    Hillary Clinton Calls Bernie Sanders a Sore Loser: ‘He’ll Burn the Place Down’

    Hillary Clinton has reportedly criticized 2020 presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), saying that her 2016 primary opponent would rather go scorched-earth than graciously lose a race.

    https://www.usapoliticstoday.org/hillary-clinton-calls-bernie-sanders-sore-loser/

  15. 49erDweet says:

    As an ex-cop I’m gonna agree with Myiq. The guy shoulda never worn a badge, but those charges are basically politically pandering bullcrap.

    • Somebody says:

      Truth, in my experience most school resource officers take that assignment to get off the streets. The vast majority of them are older and riding out the last few years before retirement. I’ve only ever known 1 young resource officer. He drove head first into gang activity in the school, groomed informants and became a real crime buster. Shrewd move on his part, he carefully selected the school. Spent 3 years there and then rocketed up the ladder.

      Granted my experience is limited to FL, but I was involved in schools at one point (over involved). I’ve been to hundreds of schools at least, across multiple counties. I’ve always wondered what if, given the age and physical condition of most SRO’s I’ve encountered. One could barely walk, he was morbidly obese……..but apparently kissed the right asses because he was an SRO.

      • Somebody says:

        Dove not drove, stupid autocorrect

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Or they are “offered” that school assignment as a reward, as it is generally viewed as cushy, or as an acknowledgement that they are not really cop material/just not fit. All the time figuring the odds are that person will never be put on the front lines. Then the once in a million chance of a lifetime hits.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I thought if he raced in and gotten killed, he would be a hero. Now he’s being held responsible for 17 deaths. Let’s not forget, the shooter walked out of the school with the rest of the students with his hands on his head. I think they finally found him about a mile away. I blame the whole chain of the Sheriff’s command, why just pin it on this guy ?

  16. Myiq2xu™ says:

  17. taw46 says:

    Rinos all.

    • DandyTIger says:

      It’s interesting to see them whining about tariffs and how it might effect the economy. IOW, the really don’t see a problem with crime, drugs, illegals, and basically having the drug cartels controlling not just our southern border but our entire emigration policy.

      Here’s a thing to push back. When we went to war in WWII and turned a lot of our factories towards the war effort, that was definitely a negative to our economy. At least initially. What would have happened if the Senate had veto the war effort?

      • DeniseVB says:

        One of my dh’s golf buddies depends on Chinese imports for his business (selling restaurant grade appliances and wine chillers). It’s cut a tinsy bit into his profits, but he agrees with what POTUS is doing and thinks it’s worth it.

    • Anthony says:

      “Cocaine Mitch” McCommunist better watch it. Also disappointed in Earnst…

  18. Miranda says:

    Like I said downstairs, I don’t think he broke any laws. If it becomes a crime to not do your job, then a lot of people are going to be in jail.

    Is this the same guy that wouldn’t charge Cruz despite the many, many red flags of his behavior?

    • DeniseVB says:

      The laws that protected Cruz and kept him in the mainstream were created by Obama and Holder (Promise Keepers or something like that) to keep minorities out of jail. I’d start there. With Democrat policies.

      • Miranda says:

        If they charge the deputy, they should charge every single person who observed Cruz’ behavior…which included threatening people with guns…and didn’t report him.

        Similarly, the VA beach shooter had gotten into physical altercations with co-workers. If he’d been fired for that and had his badge taken, the shooting wouldn’t have happened. People need to quit letting this type of behavior slide. It’s not going to go away.

    • DeniseVB says:

      She was no “Terry Schiavo” who was supported by feeding tubes for years. Maybe I missed the part that feeding tubes were a part of Noa’s palliative care ? If not, then it was they let her starve herself to death ? There’s still so many holes in this story.

      • elliesmom says:

        What I read was she applied to be euthanized, but the government refused to help her. However, her medical team did stand by and watch her starve herself and did nothing. I don’t know what the age of consent is in the Netherlands.

        • DeniseVB says:

          She reached the age of consent when she turned 17 in that country. I’m just surprised there isn’t a path the parents could have taken to admit her to a facility for treatment? Between her mental anguish and failure to survive tendency, she certainly was a danger to herself. I think it was claimed in the article the Netherlands provide no such services ?

    • Underwhelmed says:

      Either way, her life, her choice. I’m really sorry she couldn’t bear it any more, and I’m sorry she couldn’t find a way to hold on. But sometimes people can’t, and that’s that. So long as the state didn’t make the choice for her, or a family member, then it’s okay. Sad, but okay. This was her journey. I pray she’s at peace now.

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Here’s a nice story break.

  20. helenk3 says:

    https://barbwire.com/supreme-court-righting-obama-epa-wrong-but-after-convicted-vet-dies/

    we should never forget this injustice, It could happen to anyone

  21. mothy67 says:

    Aren’t there laws covering certain professions. Can a doctor or nurse not provide care in a supermarket? Do cop’s not take an oath?
    I reacted to gun fire once. This woman in center city Philadelphia had been shot in the head. After 2 a m. I was leaving Wawa. With a cheese hoagie. I didn’t think. I was on auto pilot. Put my hands where I saw blood. Was holding her on my lap. Cop’s came. Picked us both up and put us in a paddy wagon. I kept my hands in place. She lived and is now a grandmother. Lost part of her tongue and a few teeth. I didn’t choose to run to her. There was no thought at all. Funny thing when I got home hours later I still had my cheese hoagie. The woman had a bullet rip through her head. It felt like hours but it was maybe ten minutes all she kept saying was I can’t die I have 3 kids. Blood gurgling out of her mouth all over my favorite shirt. Ruined it. Wonder if it’s too late to sue her. Joking. It took me until the next day to fall apart.
    I don’t think anyone knows what they will do. I worked in hotels when I was younger. They train you on evacuations. Okay sure buddy I am going to hang out in an inferno to guide guests out. Fat chance but you cannot predict reactions Remember the story of the 9/11 guy who tried to catch a jumper? I don’t know if it’s true .

    • DeniseVB says:

      You’re right, nobody can predict how anyone will react under the worst circumstances at any given time. I’ve never been in a situation, thank goodness, that my adrenaline would cause me to run towards a tragedy or away from it.

      All of a sudden the last episode of Seinfeld makes more sense. They were all put in jail for breaking The Good Samaritan Law (doing nothing to help some guy getting mugged).

  22. Dora says:

    This is great! 🙂

  23. Dora says:

    He must be confused.

    • lateblum says:

      Or, he’s a “good Catholic”. How can he stand in good conscience with Nanzi and AOC and Bernie or any of the rest of them? He’ll never make it through the primaries with those beliefs.

  24. taw46 says:

    FFS, here we go again. Back to the 25th Amendment. Nutty Dr. Bandy Lee back in the news.

    • Anthony says:

      Predictably, Dems using “whatever means necessary” to keep their dwindling base angry enough to vote for Biden, their pre-selected nominee the winner of their primary contest. I’ll go even further and bet that the debates are not debates at all. Rather, they will be an extended Trump bashing festival where even the most outlandish claims are proffered with wide eyed sincerity (see: Eric Swallowswell)

      • AniEm says:

        I thought the ultimate goal of psychology was self-actualization. POTUS has to be the most self-actualized person on the planet. These people are such a joke, an insane joke — and THEY’RE the psychiatrists! God help us.

    • DeniseVB says:

      They really need to start with HRC, Mad Maxine and Nancy Pelosi first. Those ladies are off the rails cray-cray.

      • Constance says:

        I’m really disappointed to say that women are not good at government. In Seattle we have a woman mayor, mostly women city council and a woman police chief. Out city is a regressive shit hole.

        • blowme0bama says:

          Seattle has really changed since the early 80s. I’d made a trip there 20 years ago and once a couple summers back. If I’d have known a few people other than just some Great Aunts, I’d have moved there in a heartbeat back in the early 80s. There’s no way I could stomach the people there now.

          • blowme0bama says:

            Clarity – hopefully – My Mom was from there and we visited her family several times when I was younger. Most beautiful scenery in the US. Took a trip with my now deceased ex about 20 years back which was the first time I’d been since going with my Mom in the early 80s. Took new Wife two summers ago which was first time I’d been since taking dead ex 20 years earlier.

          • Constance says:

            Check out the Facebook “Seattle Look Like Shit” for tonight’s post. I’ll bet the guy is still laying there in his on shit and vomit now. But our mayor Durkin just gave a speech telling us Seattle is thriving.

  25. John Denney says:

    I’d be interested to know Scot Peterson’s usual demeanor before the shooting. Grandfatherly type who loved the kids? Pompous jerk who relished his power? Disinterested shlub who just showed up to put in his time?

    • DeniseVB says:

      LOL, I just read Alabama wants to chemically castrate sex offenders in exchange for early parole. Go Alabama and other states who are figuring out how to keep Dems out 😀

  26. blowme0bama says:

    • helenk3 says:

      he better buy a lot more than flowers to get out of this one

    • DeniseVB says:

      LOL. Happens to me all the time on FB when my fat fingers accidently hit the laughing emoji when I meant to hit the sad one. It’s really embarrassing when someone just lost a loved one.

      • Somebody says:

        My worst text was about cleaning out my purse, but autocorrect changed it to pussy. That was way back with the 1st generation iphone.

        My son’s favorite when he was in college and I was texting for the 1st time Howdoyouspace? 😂 He showed it to all his friends. That was pre smart phone when you only had numbers

        • blowme0bama says:

          My worst was texting a pic of some flowers with something equivalent of “wishing you were here” to the guy who was doing body repair on my truck.

        • Myiq2xu™ says:

          “I decided to clean out my pussy so I dumped it out on the kitchen table. I cannot believe all the junk I had in my pussy. This pussy is old and beat up. I need a new pussy.”

          Imagine if autocorrect went the other way.

          “My purse itches.”
          “He came in my purse.”
          “Mitt Romney is a big purse.”

  27. helenk3 says:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/02/an-enormous-crack-just-opened-up-in-africa-evidence-africa-is-literally-splitting-in-two/#229bb55a3941

    I read about this today, and my 1st thought was OH Hell don’t tell AOC she will have a fainting fit

  28. DeniseVB says:

    😀

  29. Cisco says:

    To many people of color jailed in Chicago?
    Well just let them bailout with the promise to be extra good.
    See, like this fine citizen who was released on a pending murder case.
    OOPS!
    He did a boo-boo😳
    over the weekend in what the Duluth Police Department said was the largest heroin seizure in the history of the department.

    On May 30, investigators executed search warrants at an apartment and a hotel room and recovered approximately 4.3 pounds of heroin, a half-pound of cocaine, a loaded gun and $94,623. The heroin has an estimated street value of $350,000, according to police. The warrants were the result of a two-month long investigation into a drug trafficking organization with suspected sales of heroin in the region.

    The search also resulted in the arrests two suspects: a 39-year-old man and a 36-year-old man. The St. Louis County Attorney is reviewing the case for charges.

    At the time of the arrest, the 36-year-old man was out on bail for a first-degree murder charge in Chicago.
    h/t SCC

    • DandyTIger says:

      A funny argument these murderers and drug traffickers could use in their defense is that the government is letting 1000s of people just like them through the border, so it’s unfair to oppress citizens for what illegals have a free hand at.

      • Cisco says:

        Checked back in late, watching Yankees and Cubs baseball.
        But you make a very good point.
        Not an attorney here, but I think that would be a decent defense.
        Forgot which country this happened in, but a muzz was exonerated for raping a boy at pool side.
        His defense, we’ll golly gee, he didn’t know that was wrong.

  30. Myiq2xu™ says:

  31. DandyTIger says:

    Good interview with Lauren about her documentary “Borderless” and her retirement

  32. Constance says:

    Here is an interesting item. Independent Women’s Voice has started an online petition to get the Feds to enforce vaccination rules on all immigrants which apparently they don’t do now. They say hundreds of Africans have been caught at the border sneaking in and are being held with everyone else and they are from regions where there is Ebola and then there is the measles outbreak. Anyway here is a link to their petition if you want to sign it,
    https://iwv.org/stop-infectious-disease_support

  33. Island Girl says:

    Heard from one of my favorite friends he has 6 months to live, told him that won’t be happening but would ask for healing if so inclined, my buddy Kevin since Teen hood.

    • elliesmom says:

      When calculations like that are done, the time is based on the median length of time a person with that stage of the disease usually survives. While half of people will die sooner, half will live longer. And “longer” can be a very long time. Stephen Jay Gould, the evolutionary biologist, wrote a essay called, “The Median Isn’t the Message”. He was told he had an expected 8 months to live, but he lived 20 years longer. My mother-in-law stretched her 6 months to 2 1/2 years. Gould’s essay is excerpted here- https://www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html

      I hope your friend does the same. ❤

      • DandyTIger says:

        It also assumes no changes in treatment. I have a friend that was given 3-6 months. They changed treatments and that lasted 2 years until the treatments no longer were working. Another 3 months given. Changed treatments again, which lasted about 2 years. Etc. 19 years later, they’re still working hard to find new treatments.

    • lateblum says:

      I am so sorry.

    • lyn says:

      Hugs to you, Island Girl. ❤

  34. taw46 says:

    Watching on C-SPAN. Also, you can watch here:

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  37. taw46 says:

    Where Bette Midler once again calls for violence against Trump….

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/05/hollywood-bette-midler-advocates-stabbing-pres-trump/

  38. elliesmom says:

    I’m glad Trump is representing us at the D-Day anniversary.

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  41. taw46 says:

    I hope one day to see Normandy. I was able to visit the Sicily-Rome American Cemetery in Nettuno, Italy, which remembers those lost in the Italian campaign. It is a moving experience to be at any of those cemeteries.

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