This is why you should ignore the polls

Four years ago the experts assured us that the polls showed that Trump could not win a single primary, let alone the GOP nomination. They also assured us that Hillary had a commanding lead over anyone in the GOP.

Three years ago the experts told us that even though Trump had the most delegates the GOP would p[robably not give him the nomination for a variety of reasons, especially because he could not beat Hillary. They said polls showed him losing badly to Hillary, and several Republicans like Ted Cruz were more competitive in key states.

All thru the fall of 2016 we heard endlessly about how all the polls showed Hillary had a huge lead. By the beginning of November 2016 everybody who was anybody was making plans to attend one or more of Hillary’s election night victory parties.

I ignored the polls. Instead of watching polls I was watching lines at Trump rallies. Everywhere he went people were standing in line for hours waiting to see him. It didn’t matter if it was burning hot or freezing cold, bright and sunny or raining cats and dogs. They came, and they were energized.

On election night the Democrats were weeping, wailing, and gnashing their teeth while Trump supporters were dancing in the streets.

Will 2020 be deja vu all over again?

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134 Responses to This is why you should ignore the polls

  1. Myiq2xu™ says:

  2. Angie says:

    These lying assholes spent the 2 years leading up to the 2016 election telling us that Trump could not win the nomination/election.
    They have spent the 2 years since telling us Trump colluded with Russia and would be removed from office.
    And now they are intent on spending the next 2 years telling us Trump cannot win reelection.
    Is there anyone on God’s green earth with a lick of sense still listening to them? 🤣🤣🤣

  3. Angie says:

    Barr is becoming my favorite Trump pick.

    • lyn says:

      You called it!

    • swanspirit says:

      This is great news. I have a feeling Manafort will not spend the rest of his life in jail.

    • Constance says:

      Thanks for posting this Angie. Of all the crap that has gone down this prison transfer really upset me, it was pure evil. I’m glad to know Barr stepped in.

      • lateblum says:

        The first I heard of this was on the radio yesterday afternoon. It was, of course, criticized by the “reporter” who suggestd a politicized DOJ and misuse of power by PDJT.
        I agree the move to Rikers was a purely evil act of vengeance (or torture) by the AG of the southern district.

    • taw46 says:

      These people vote and they don’t know anything. I remember every one of those quotes. MSM, which these people watch, does a good job of keeping them clueless.

  4. Myiq2xu™ says:

  5. Myiq2xu™ says:

  6. John Denney says:

    The South shall rise again, aided and assisted by global warming, which will kill off all the Yankees like Alexia Ocasio-Cortez. After the Yanks die from the heat, the Southerners will simply take their place. A few degrees hotter in the North will still be quite comfortable for a Southerner.

  7. Myiq2xu™ says:

    • Angie says:

      Yeah that’s it–white people being “uncomfortable with black athletes” is the problem here.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I was glued to the OJ trial, I don’t remember once thinking, OH, HE’s BLACK ! It was the most compelling unscripted drama I’ve ever seen. WTF is WaPo talking about, stupid racists, grrrrrrr.

        • lateblum says:

          I was at a birthday party at a sports bar and we were watching the NBA finals when that came on. We, about 20 of us, were fuming the entire night because the station was fixed on the stupid car “chase”. I think that establishment lost money that night because people started going home when the OJ thing persisted. That’s when my affinity for CBS or whatever network interrupted the basketball game, began to fade. I could not have cared less about OJ and his Bronco trip. AFAIC he could have shot himself in the car and this country could have saved itself lots of time, money, and the emotional roller coaster that followed. I thought he was a fine football player but a creep nonetheless. Just like many other professionals. Color had/has nothing to do with it.
          Although, I will say that the trial did provide many awards for later actors and directors.

        • Somebody says:

          OJ transcended race, most of us grew up cheering him on. He had a compelling life story and we were thrilled to see him succeed and shocked when the murders happened.

          Race never entered my mind, but if you’re not a racist you don’t see everything through the lens of skin color. Perhaps the WaPo writer is the one that is racist.

      • Constance says:

        Why do people subscribe to these BS papers? I cancelled the Seattle Times. I hated to do it because my Dad worked there for 30 years but why pay for that kind of garbage? Just let it go, let it go subscribers.

    • 49erDweet says:

      It’s the “Hindsight Racists” who are the very worst. Not the ones who lived it, the ones who come along generations later a ‘discover’ latent racism in what were totally innocuous deeds. Sickos.

  8. Dora says:

    • Cisco says:

      So let me see if I’ve got this right.
      Illegal’s enter the country ILLEGALLY, violate other laws, and to deport them is illegal?
      I’m tell you folks, this election will be the mother of all election fraud, imo of course.
      The Dem’s are desperate to win 2020 and they are going to do everything they can to win, and I mean everything.

    • blowme0bama says:

      This better be more than a threat.

    • elliesmom says:

      I was surprised to find out illegal immigrants can buy houses. If someone owns property and is deported, I assume the deportee can arrange for the sale of the property? It might be good to have a realtor on retainer if you’re illegal. They don’t have to leave their American born children behind. They can take their kids back to their country of origin with them so all of the wailing about that is just wailing in the wind. When the kids grow up they can exercise their American citizenship if they want to. I’m not sure why we should feel guilty about lining up the buses.

    • John Denney says:

      Didn’t someone just say that even the President is not above the law?

      Even even he is not above the law, then surely illegal immigrants are not.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Yesterday’s Orlando news …. pouring rain

  10. DeniseVB says:

    I’m enjoying the Line stories this morning. Trolls are finding it hard to keep up, lol.

  11. Dora says:

    Trump: “I Think I Know” Who Was Behind 9/11 Attacks

    President Trump says he knows who was behind the September 11, 2001 attacks, telling ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos “Iraq did not knock down the World Trade Center,” adding “It were other people. And I think I know who the other people were. And you might also.”

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Posted 12 hours ago…..

  13. Mothy67 says:

    If Kyle can be denied Harvard for dumb words uttered at 16 can we hold every athlete to the same standard with regards to “homophobia”?

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m thinking more about the Virginia Governor. The left defends him because blackface happened decades ago, no big deal. Right? I think Kyle will be okay, hope he sues, this has nothing to do with saying a naughty word at 16, he’s a pro-gun conservative, which Harvard had to know when they first accepted him. I’m now wondering if The Hogglette instigated this, they certainly weren’t bff’s in high school.

      • elliesmom says:

        I felt a bit better when I read that Kyle had planned to take a gap year. I’m sure another good school will accept him for the next fall and give him some scholarship love. When he gets that sorted out, he can find himself an internship somewhere or go to work on a political campaign. I wouldn’t put it past the Hogglette to have been behind this. He’s a nasty little bastard. But with Kyle’s GPA and his SAT scores, he wasn’t a charity acceptance at Harvard like Piggy. He’ll bounce back. I don’t expect the Hogglette to graduate from Harvard. While it’s not a difficult school to get through, you do have to go to class. You can’t expect to spend 4 years hiding in a locker. While no one at Columbia seems to have ever met Obama, there are students and professors at Harvard that remember seeing him.

      • Anthony says:

        Not the Snotzi Hoglette. It’s the forces behind him. OFA & ANTIFA

    • 49erDweet says:

      Only if they tend to be conservative. Liberals get a free pass.

  14. DeniseVB says:

    This morning…..

  15. DeniseVB says:

    Biden’s got problems with his base. LOL.

    • Anthony says:

      They’re screwed lol. HRC didnt lose because she failed to show up in the Blue Wall states. She lost because she promised to “preserve and expand upon” the Obama admin policies.

      Until the Dem/Soc candidates and constituents acknowledge that Obama’s policies damaged America, they’ll continue to have a tough time winning the GE.

      I’ll go a step further and say that it’s the power and funding behind former POTUS that maintains the stranglehold on Dem/Soc critical thinking capabilities. That would be Soros and ValJar’s motherland. Why else would so many former State Dept officials and one particular former POTUS spend so much energy coaching Iran on how to #resist PDJT’s foreign policy decisions?

      • DeniseVB says:

        I can see why PTrump wants Biden to be the Dem nominee, this sh*t ….. lol.

        • Anthony says:

          Don’t underestimate the tenacity (and stupidity) of the OFA flying spoogemonkeys (H/T Lyn) and ANTIFA (one and the same organization)

          They’ll do as they’re told, and be discarded as soon as their usefulness is exhausted. They can/will do a lot of damage before Soros/Obama/Iran are finished using them

          • DeniseVB says:

            Don’t worry, not taking my eye off the ball. Still hoping for a Godfather-like “Baptism Scene” leading into 2020.

          • Mothy67 says:

            I wish some intrepid reporter would do a follow up piece on the arrests that have taken place since inauguration. The bike lock teacher got a slap on the wrist. Assault ? The freak who kicked the pregnant woman (Canada) got 8 months probation. Essentially nothing. There were major crimes committed. Has anyone been held accountable?

  16. Dora says:

    Heavily armed Muslim Marine arrested trying to enter Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, said he’d “shoot up the battalion, starting at the barracks”

  17. DeniseVB says:

    LOL, Triggered ! A great number of TDSers are literally counting the people in line now since PTrump embellished the numbers yesterday.

    • Anthony says:

      So all those videos and live interviews are staged??

      • DeniseVB says:

        Must be, I can’t think of any other reason people would line up 40 hours early. (hee, hee). The anti-Trumpers are still melting down on twitter now that #TrumpRallyOrlando is trending. I’m reading their comments in the voice of a howler monkey 😀

    • blowme0bama says:

      I’ve got to throw in here that when he came here back in October(?), there were about 40 or so standing in line at 9:00 a.m. the morning before the 7:00 p.m. Rally. The place was filled, including 70% of the floor, but it was really unnecessary to get there that early unless you just absolutely want to be standing on the floor in the first 10 “rows” of humanity right in front of the stage. We were about 50 feet from the stage on the floor. I guess if you have the time to kill, it would be a way to party with like-minded folk.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Yup. It’s a street party in Orlando right now. I feel bad, the only Trump Rally I attended was a 10 minute walk from my house (RegentU, Oct2016). Yuge campus, it was in their common area, held about 15k. It rawked. Meanwhile, our local news covered the protesters across the highway, waterboarding each other. Wut? I hope Regent invites PTrump back in 2020, I may camp out the night before 😉

        • blowme0bama says:

          He came here back in 2016. The venue was ~1.5 miles from the house. I didn’t go just out of laziness. After the October rally, the Wife and I agreed that we’re glad we went and it was fun, but I wouldn’t spend 2.5 – 3.0 standing on the floor again for another one.

        • elliesmom says:

          If the Democratic candidate turns out to be Elizabeth Warren, there might be a rally near me, but unless it’s in Providence, if I show up, I’ll double her attendance.

    • Somebody says:

      Well Mary is correct, Orlando is blue. It wasn’t always thus, but it gets more blue every year. English becomes more scarce too 🤔

      I do have to wonder it citizen Mary plays with gingerbread dolls 🤔

  18. votermom says:

    love these

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Yay for Capitalism !

  20. Cisco says:

    Well getting back on the subject of not believing polls, I posted this many times during last election, and as it nears I will continue to.
    Ya’all will get tired of it, but just scroll on by…”there’s crazy Cisco again, we know we gotta vote no matter what “.
    If the exit polls, media etc, “report” at 6:pm that Trump has one the election, still get off your duff and vote.
    I use 6:pm because most if not election polling spots are open from 6am till 9pm.
    Vote, vote like your life depends on it, because it’s more importantly than that, it’s for the life of the Republic.
    I’ll put away the soapbox…for now 😂

    • DeniseVB says:

      Never gets old Cisco ! We can’t get complicit in 2020. I voted like my life depended on it in 2016 even though I was told that PTrump only had a 3% chance of winning. 😀 Went to bed knowing Hillary would be President……..imagine my shock, a totally fabulous shock and awe feeling.

      • elliesmom says:

        I watched the Stephen Colbert election night special curled up on the sofa with Ellie. Best thing I’ve ever seen on TV. I’m sure the neighbors heard the screech I gave out when Colbert had to announce Trump had won. His show from then on was a giant pity party, but I couldn’t stop laughing.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I’m kicking myself for not staying up, thank goodness the internet is forever and get to relive those great moments with glee 😀

          • Somebody says:

            Hubby and I stayed up all night 😂 We own 4 TV’s, 3 desktops, 3 laptops, 2 tablets and 3 smart phones. We watched/streamed different coverage on all of them 😂 Well truthfully, early on we were focusing on FL. I know the state and the counties, when I saw the Keys turn red and St. Lucie, plus Hillary’s margin in Dade was lower than previous D’s…….that’s when I thought A) he’s got FL, not enough fraud in Broward to offset and bonus the panhandle is still out. B) I began to think he can pull this off, he can get to 270.

            I was annoyed as hell Florida wasn’t called much earlier. I did enjoy the channel surfing, all the somber faces. I haven’t laughed so hard in years.

            BUT, BUT, BUT, the BEST memory of election 2016 happened the next morning at the bus stop. My neighbor’s mother is heavily involved with the state and local D’s. My neighbor hosted on of those girl night election parties, bunch of hens watching the 1st woman POTUS, blah, blah. I never remember her mom’s name, we always call her Endora. She dislikes her SIL, all men really and calls him various names except his real name 🙄

            Anyway Endora’s van was plastered with Hillary crap🙄 So it was hilarious when she rolled up with her grandkids at the bus stop @ 6am and every single sticker was scraped off 😂 My other neighbor and had been up all night and we were punch drunk. When she pulled up we couldn’t stop laughing, like about to wet our pants laughing.😂

            To be fair to Endora, she was gracious NOT like so many Hillary supporters behaved. She got out, walked over and congratulated us. Said she imagined we were up all night and still on cloud 9. Said it was a stunning victory and she hoped and would pray for DJT to be a successful POTUS, because his success would be America’s success. She was so gracious it sort of made me feel bad for laughing……..but damn, I got so sick of her rolling campaign ads…..I’m with her….Love trumps hate, blah, blah.

            Nothing could keep me away from the polls in 2020, but unless POTUS sweeps all 50 states or something it won’t compare to 2016 election night

          • taw46 says:

            I was up all night, it was glorious. They took forever to call some states, like Florida, as if they could stop what was happening. I flipped channels, also had my iPad and iPhone going. I will watch the same way in 2020, but I have to agree with somebody, won’t be anything ever again like that night!

        • blowme0bama says:

          By sheer coincidence, I had a two day continuing education seminar in a city distant from my residence. That city is 45 to 50 minutes away from my childhood home that I inherited and still maintain. It is in the sticks. At that time, I had no satellite internet and no cell signal. I had to drive a mile back on family property to a hill where I could get a cell signal. I sat there continually refreshing here and r/The_Donald from about 11 CST until – hell sometime after 1:45 a.m.. It was such a fantastic night. I went into the seminar the next morning, bleary and extremely satisfied. I knew we were getting gaslighted by MSM with fake greenscreen crowds for HRC’s rallies, and that there was a clear enthusiasm gap, but I still wasn’t absolutely certain that, somehow, notorious precincts in FL and PA would be unable to pull off the steal.

  21. elliesmom says:

    SInce I got up this morning, I have done two loads of laundry, planted three whiskey barrels full of plants, gone to the grocery store, walked the dog, and put our main meal of the day in the slowcooker. Elliesdad got up to use the bathroom, saw me reading from my computer, and asked me if I was just going to veg out today because it might rain this afternoon. I may need bail money.

    • Anthony says:

      Cash? Or bitcoin?

      • Cisco says:

        Cash, always cash.
        No checks, credit or debit card, iou’s or promises to pay next week.
        Folding money, that’s the ticket.

    • helenk3 says:

      don’t kill him. why should you suffer and go to jail? A little ex-lax in the coffee should take care of him for a while

      • Somebody says:

        Sneakier than ex-lax, Atkins products. Get some of their chocolate bars. They’re actually pretty good, but you’d better be near a bathroom about an hour later 😨

    • DeniseVB says:

      I just set up a GoFundMe for you……(kidding!). When I was a SAHM with little ones, I learned to keep the vacuum out and time rolling up the cord as he walked in the door. Also a basket of laundry to fold while he told me “about his day”. He stopped asking me “what did you do today?” which made me stabby. 😉

  22. helenk3 says:

    What is with dems and their threats of physical harm to republicans? How many dems in congress have threatened the president now? No wonder they want our guns, that way we could not fight back

  23. Cisco says:

    Having our own watch party in back yard, 4:pm start time.
    A little bbq, suds and watching the rally via RSBN.
    It’s not broadcast tv, have to use laptop’s and I-pods, but still worth while.
    RSBN starts live streaming at 1:pm.
    Kegger on ice, pot luck, but burgers, brauts and dogs provided.
    Just a 1/2 dozen or so buds, but…

  24. helenk3 says:

    another reason I am glad I am not raising kids today

  25. DeniseVB says:

    A clip from a 6 a.m Fox News segment. #WalkAway shirt interview 😀

  26. Myiq2xu™ says:

    • SHV says:

      “A ‘Physical Revolution'”
      Interesting how easily the concepts of “Civil War”, “Physical Revolution”, “Our side has the guns”, etc. are thrown around without a clue of what that would be like, how it would “work” or where it would go.
      A few months ago, I read a book written by a man who survived a year of civil war during the Siege of Sarajevo. A recurring theme was the “smell”; un-collected garbage, raw sewage, un-buried dead animals and dead, rotting people and dirty living humans who couldn’t bathe. Fancy guns and lots of “prepped” supplies; forget it, there will be a person/group who is stronger, more vicious that will more than likely take your shit. etc., etc. and a final word of advice, you never have enough ammunition.

      • Cisco says:

        I concur SHV.
        Don’t depend on government, who are certainly only interested in taking your only means of defense.
        Now as for “fancy guns & prepped” supplies.
        Fancy? A good SKS properly sighted w/ a extended 30 round mag will do nicely.
        AK-47 & its variants, even better, cheap and reliable.
        Last count there’s about 30 million or so out in various zones of conflict
        No need for a $1800 AR.
        Simple iron sights will do, but ya’ gotta practice, and practice.
        “Stronger more vicious, take my shit”?
        Not w/o a fight, last one standing gets to keep the goodies.
        Beans, bullets, first-aid and commo…and a plan.
        Turn the other cheek?
        Sure, just to get a better sight picture .
        Now to RSBN to watch the Trump rally.
        Later crawdadders 💖

  27. Myiq2xu™ says:

  28. DeniseVB says:

    OMG, how stupid is this local paper ?

  29. mcnorman says:

    In other news around the globe…

    ‘When they go low… we also go low’: Michelle Obama demolishes Harry Styles in Celebrity Dodgeball, pegging the singer between his legs as she leads Team USA to victory over Team UK

    Took Harry Styles out in one brutal blow. That’s Barry’s Mike alright.

  30. Myiq2xu™ says:

  31. Dora says:

    It’s pouring in Orlando. It’s pouring on Long Island too.

    The entire East Coast is getting wet today.

    Mike the Pillow Guy is there. At least he has a tent.

  32. lyn says:

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  34. Mothy67 says:

    Build the Wall is about 106,000 shy of the all time gofundme record set by Time’s Up. TU had 22,000 donors. Many yuuuge donations from hollywierd. Kolfage is near 289,000 from the little guy.

    • Constance says:

      Build the Wall did it in 6 months and Time’s Up took 18 months. Of course it will probably be some time Thursday when BTW pulls ahead of TU.

  35. Dora says:

    She is no longer entertaining. She’s getting on my nerves!

    • helenk3 says:

      what would happen if there was a media blackout on AOC for three weeks? How fast would she become irrelevant? she is an attention hog with no redeeming value

    • Anthony says:

      Uh-oh… my left hand is making those little involuntary slapping motions again…

  36. helenk3 says:

    up thread I posted two links, one about Trump going to live tweet during the dem debates and one about joe scarbourgh telling the media to ignore his tweets until the next morning.
    I am laughing so hard at this. He got into their heads and now they do not only have to worry about how they will come out in the debates, but also what will he say. He does it everytime

    • Mothy67 says:

      He would be the perfect follow up to Trump. Like Pence I liked Scot Walker. Great guy but lacks the fire in his belly. 12 or 16 years with a Republican who knows how to fight could undo decades of judicial appointments.
      He’s a hero. Speaks fluent Spanish and he would be the most handsome president ever. The eye patch! He has Ivy league cred.
      Personally I vehemently oppose political dynasties. Bushes and Clintons cured me of that. so for me a no on Ivanka/Jr. I also don’t think Pence could win. He’s tooo PT E ( pre Trump era) republican. I want a fighter. Did I say he’s hot?

  37. DeniseVB says:

    Just skimming the twitter….

    • Mothy67 says:

      I saw an empty seat. It’s over for Trump just give Eric Swalwell the throne. Hear he’s going to be bold.

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  39. taw46 says:

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